[01:12:39] YuviPanda: you about? [01:21:03] tfinc, are you still about? Wikivoyage is having issues with it's mobile front end not working properly - I think Kaldari's change at http://en.wikivoyage.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=2025215&oldid=2015117 is the culprit as I just re-added one of those div ids and that section is now showing again as per https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mobile_Projects/Mobile_Gateway/Mobile_homepage_formatting but Kaldari's comment was "Rem [01:21:04] oving extra inner divs - These recently added divs change how the contents are parsed, in particular it makes it so that we have to manually add p tags to the captions" - is that a valid concern? [01:22:04] Thehelpfulone: in order to see a section on mobile you just need a "mf-food" id [01:22:10] as per the docs on meta [01:22:16] yep but Kaldari removed those [01:22:16] so you got it right [01:23:11] ah good, thanks [01:29:17] :) [01:29:25] time to run and enjoy what's left of Sunday [02:37:50] does any body still deals with Pocket PC [11:49:58] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Updated Ruby gems" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43806 [15:39:29] New review: Cmcmahon; "maintenance. also latest page-object has scroll_into_view method which is neato" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43806 [15:39:30] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43806 [17:44:46] * YuviPanda looks around [17:53:31] * awjr looks back [17:53:44] hey awjr :) [17:53:47] standup in 7 minutes? [17:53:48] hi YuviPanda :) [17:53:52] yessir [17:54:01] I'll be joining, though I guess it'll be reasonably disjoint for now [17:54:14] cool! that's ok :) [17:54:16] since I'm coding in my own island [17:54:39] it will still help get you on the same page and plugged back in with the etam [17:55:51] Not sure what to make of this tweet - https://twitter.com/melissarosman/status/290713805820944386 - but guess that's a sign of good design jorm etc? :) [17:56:01] awjr: of course :P [18:01:33] YuviPanda: standup! [18:02:06] awjr: failed to join [18:02:10] standup [18:02:11] retrying [18:02:14] k [18:03:13] awjr: My camera doesn't seem to like it, so am black rectangle again [18:05:30] tfinc: is that a t shirt with death giving fried chicken to a gopher? [18:06:26] YuviPanda: lolz [18:06:57] think spirited away ghost and a little child [18:13:38] plus ice cream [18:15:55] ice cream? [18:15:57] that is ice cream? [18:15:58] why was it red? [18:15:59] and huge? [18:16:05] what kind of ice cream is red? [18:16:06] YuviPanda: its pink ice cream [18:16:11] strawberry? [18:16:14] strawberry [18:16:17] hmmm [18:16:31] who's up for responding to subject:Not displaying of page items on mobile-l ? [18:16:37] heads up team - discussions on the wikivoyage mailing list about mobile [18:16:51] if you're not subscribed subscribe (jgonera awjr MaxSem in particular) [18:17:32] jcmish, jdlrobson, MaxSem, jgonera: re rescheduling deployment to accommodate product's schedule - it looks like the only viable deployment windows this week are tomorrow morning (anytime until 1pm PST), or Thursday afternoon, after 3pm PST [18:17:49] Thursday would give us more time to finalize watchlist [18:17:56] I'd personally prefer that.. [18:18:14] yeah, and given the fact that we don't have much ready to go now, waiting til thursday will give us a little more breathing room [18:18:32] however Thursday is late so I wouldn't like deploy it myself [18:18:32] jcmish, jgonera, MaxSem are you all ok with thursday aftenroon? MaxSem, i am happy to take that deployment since it will be super late for you [18:18:44] awjr, cool - thanks [18:18:45] yeah, MaxSem i would manage that oen [18:18:51] sweet [18:18:53] jcmish does that work for you? [18:18:53] Hmm [18:19:06] thursday is gonna be late eh? :D [18:19:11] jcmish: 3-5pm PST [18:19:11] I can definitely do it [18:19:44] groovy, i'll sent out an email [18:19:47] kayo [18:20:21] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "don't scrub .noprint elements" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43852 [18:20:58] brion: YuviPanda: add any other items to http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/MobileAppTeam [18:21:09] YuviPanda: get your camera working before that meeting [18:21:10] * YuviPanda pokes [18:21:12] hello brion [18:21:27] how about an animated .gif of me and yuvi simultaneously taking off our sunglasses and making a witty comment [18:22:03] tfinc: what's the context? :) [18:22:18] tfinc: yes, I'll figure it out. Have a day :) [18:22:44] New review: MaxSem; "What's the rationale for this? Have you tried what is it used for on real wikis (I suspect that nopt..." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43852 [18:22:45] brion: look at your calendar for 12:30 today [18:23:08] app team kickoff! woo [18:24:16] jdlrobson: thanks for the response on list [18:26:27] jdlrobson: also, tech lead :P congrats, etc [18:26:35] \o/ [18:29:10] :) thx [18:29:26] with great power comes great responsibility [18:29:46] were giving the english more power?!? who's bright idea was that ? [18:30:09] New review: Brion VIBBER; "does what it says on the tin" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43141 [18:30:10] Change merged: Brion VIBBER; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43141 [18:30:11] apparently the polish :P [18:30:23] * YuviPanda ducks [18:30:35] the sun never sets on the english empire [18:30:40] well, if they had kept it [18:31:36] ouch OS X tells me my camera is dead? :( [18:31:38] * YuviPanda tries restrating [18:32:25] yeah i see that sometimes. very annoying. logout/login can fix it, reboot def does [18:33:33] New review: Brion VIBBER; "Confirmed this fixes up pretty names" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43140 [18:33:34] Change merged: Brion VIBBER; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43140 [18:35:11] yeah it just did [18:35:42] http://youtu.be/wJjEcVl6PqY [18:36:19] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43123 [18:36:19] Change merged: Brion VIBBER; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43122 [18:36:35] fancy boxers aren't just a cartoon gag? [18:36:36] TIL [18:36:52] do we have wikipedia boxers for sale? [18:37:12] ZOMG NSFW [18:38:02] i forget about NSFW when i'm wfh :| [18:39:20] tfinc: cam fixed (fyi) [18:39:26] woot! [18:39:47] YuviPanda: i've been enjoying limechat. thanks for reminding me that i had it installed :D [18:39:58] tfinc: that plus ZNC -> wonderful [18:40:13] tfinc: it also has inline thumbnail previews for youtube videos and images :P [18:40:36] it's open source, so I intend on adding a plugin that does wiki extracts and commons image support someday [18:40:45] oh ... trust me ... i see a video preview right above [18:40:50] New review: Brion VIBBER; "Seems to work. I don't care about the stray tab. ;)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42267 [18:40:52] tfinc: :D [18:41:00] YuviPanda: i got ZNC set up this weekend and am totally stoked (not using limechat tho, still using Adium for IRC + everything else on my laptop, irssi elsewhere) [18:41:13] awjr: re 'ideal IRC setup' you should look at tapchatapp.com [18:41:24] it's *not* open source, but they give you an open source node server you can run... [18:41:31] *AND IT GIVES YOU REAL PUSH NOTIFICATIONS!* [18:41:37] oooo [18:41:42] so you can have IRC on your phone and *not* have it east all the battery [18:41:48] i've a friend who uses it, and says it's god [18:41:49] *good [18:41:55] that looks awesome, thanks YuviPanda [18:41:57] but it only has '100+' users on the play store, so I'm a bit skeptical [18:42:06] awjr: :D do try it out and let me know! [18:42:09] i played around a bit with andchat this weekend too - it's gotten /a lot/ better than i used to be [18:42:15] but yeah, i'll take a look at tapchat this week [18:42:17] awjr: should be trivial to put that in front of ZNC [18:42:19] yeah :) [18:42:26] the client itself looks good by itself... [18:42:28] server is nice too [18:42:30] yup [18:42:33] awjr: also, have you looked at irccloud? [18:42:39] nope [18:42:46] look! [18:42:48] it's pretty nice [18:42:49] * awjr looks [18:42:58] and I *think* tapchat does push notifications from irccloud too, not sure [18:43:11] looks pretty nice, but i dont want irc in my browser [18:43:23] ack plus it's subscription service [18:43:27] yup [18:43:29] so am not doing it [18:43:35] yeah, boo [18:43:37] but still... push notifs :) [18:43:43] hehehe that is hawt [18:43:53] awjr: anyway, i'll investigate tapchat in a while. If you get there before me, do poke me! [18:44:15] will do :) [18:45:04] thanks awjr [18:48:45] jdlrobson: this has a -2 from you, does it need more work or ok to review? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/42264/ [18:48:58] It needs more testing [18:49:09] New review: Nemo bis; "Indeed, this needs at least release notes and communication, so that wikis can also add nomobile whe..." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43852 [18:49:18] Since it promotes beta to stable [18:49:21] ok i'll skip it for now [18:51:19] MaxSem: what do we need to tell ops about GeoData rollout ? [18:52:51] um, nothing? it has already been rolled out everywhere it needed to be (and even to some places where it doesn't), and the load on it will grow slowly as people start using [18:52:53] it [18:53:34] I'll poke Peter once more about monitoring and then we can close the RT ticket [18:55:53] tfinc: I sent in mine. [18:56:43] jdlrobson, jgonera: you guys think this needs more work or a different templating system or is it ready? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/42244/ [18:57:26] brion: me and jgonera were going to chat about templates when he's back in office would be good to have you and jgonera in that conversation too [18:57:40] ok [18:57:45] i'll leave that for tomorrow then [18:57:47] so don't merge yet :) [18:58:05] feel free to merge earlier commits though! [18:58:14] brion, not ready [18:58:30] (if there are any) [18:59:15] i might disentangle that patch so it works without templates [18:59:25] would be good to fix it's begin annoying me a lot [19:00:04] Change merged: Brion VIBBER; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42991 [19:03:47] Maryana: is this happening now? Mobile Design Sync: Recent Deployment [19:03:56] i appear to be the only one in the room [19:04:01] would you like to join? [19:04:13] wasn't sure if you wanted to - you were greyed out on the invite [19:04:25] ! [19:04:28] i am in the hangout [19:04:34] i will try again [19:04:51] Maryana: it keeps telling me im the only one in the hangout [19:04:58] can you post a link to the hangout you're in? [19:05:14] yeah, that's what it tells me, too >_< [19:05:26] https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/d85de7c4d12f632821fc3fb201d47e09609a0c18 [19:07:22] MaxSem: what do we need to tell ops about GeoData rollout / solr / solr replication ? [19:07:57] tfinc, lemme email this quickly [19:08:01] thanks [19:09:49] jdlrobson: are you joining us for the 'Mobile Design Sync: Recent Deployment' meeting? [19:09:53] and where is vibha? [19:10:30] i thought it was cancelled? [19:10:44] i got some cancellation email - that wasn't the same thing? [19:10:54] heading over now.. [19:11:23] jdlrobson: must've been a different mtg you got a cancellation email for [19:11:29] jdlrobson: we're still waiting on vibha too [19:11:34] maybe she got confused as ewll [19:14:05] tfinc, sent [19:14:29] thanks [19:14:40] meetings are all around these days [19:14:54] MaxSem: what about OSM ? [19:14:55] will e die by consensus?:) [19:16:02] tfinc, nothing to report other that I'm working on it and that they need to give us someone for the OSM meetup [19:16:08] k [19:17:36] http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/Watchlist-20beta-20status [19:17:52] ^ awjr Maryana [19:19:20] Ryan_Lane: are you having a staring contest with us ? [19:39:01] tfinc: heh. no, I'm actually working and have it in the background [19:39:11] so, I'm not looking at you guys at all ;) [19:39:25] yeah, big ops brother is not watching. carry on! :) [19:39:34] Ryan_Lane: your burrowing into our soul with your stare [19:45:13] Maryana: but did you want the hamburger on the watchlist pages for the iteration being kicked off today? [19:45:57] yeah, let's get it on the watchlist view for this coming iteration [19:46:18] that's in https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.org/projects/mobile/cards/361 [19:46:35] yah [19:46:50] Maryana: let's bump that back to 'in analysis' because it sounds like we may need to re-estimate this and/or break this up into other stories [19:47:07] ok [19:53:28] New review: Zfilipin; "Michelle, could you please review the commit? While the two of us paired, looks like some files did ..." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/42755 [20:07:49] awjr: with jdlrobson taking on the tech lead role i'm going to pass on the get the room/stand up ready duties to him [20:08:48] tfinc makes sense - starting when? [20:09:19] awjr: as soon as possible for me so that i can focus my attention on the mobile apps instead [20:09:54] tfinc: makes sense. can you either or still host the retro/kickoff today or walk jdlrobson thorugh what he needs to do before them? [20:10:09] yeah, i'm going to be in the room for an app meeting right before [20:10:13] cool [20:12:04] tfinc: just to confirm that my time zone math is not screwed up... [20:12:09] app team kickoff in ~20 mins? [20:12:11] yes [20:12:19] ok [20:18:06] tfinc, wait, isn't it at 1.30pm PDT? [20:18:27] jgonera: thats the retrospective [20:18:37] jgonera: 12:30 is just brion, yuvi, and me [20:18:48] tfinc, oh, ok, right _app_ kickoff [20:18:51] sorry [20:23:00] whee [20:24:19] grabbing some food before our retro [20:26:36] tfinc: the eatable item i demonstrated for ct apparently had a large chilli in it [20:30:17] hehe .. nice YuviPanda [20:30:28] :D [20:30:45] tfinc: you're currently the sole member of 'let me go find brion!' team :D [20:30:59] \o/ [20:32:09] brion: come on by. r31 is free as the tech ops meeting is not using it [20:36:10] jgonera: could you clarify https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.org/projects/mobile/cards/295 for us? [20:36:53] jdlrobson, I think it's the first time I see it [20:37:04] haha ok [20:37:06] mystery story! :) [20:37:24] ;) [21:06:35] brion: YuviPanda https://docs.google.com/a/wikimedia.org/presentation/d/1Yr4nZ0BT3Pb7DyoqDL4N-dv6SMx_A650OELx8z0DBJE/edit#slide=id.p56 [21:24:45] awjr_lunch: do I keep the squid story just put it in the backlog for now? [21:25:23] jcmish: yeah sounds good [21:25:35] k [21:28:45] jcmish: awjr_lunch is this the squid story? http://edition.cnn.com/2013/01/09/world/asia/japan-giant-squid/index.html :P [21:28:56] hahaha yes YuviPanda [21:30:18] haha [21:30:27] I'll add that as Acceptance Criteria :D [21:33:22] retrospective, anyone? [21:33:40] tfinc, jdlrobson, jgonera ^ [21:33:47] yup yup [21:34:01] coming [21:35:51] http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/mobile-retrospective-20130114 [21:52:36] brion: sent you mail! [21:53:35] don't see it [21:54:08] brion: bvibber@wm.o [21:56:44] hmm [21:57:32] don't see it. what's the subject line? [22:00:31] jcmish: we're going to use the same hangout for the kickoff as we did for the retro [22:00:35] jcmish: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/8a8025c1318a1a37dadabe9ed4bda56ebfc5c697 [22:01:16] dangit [22:01:19] k coming [22:01:51] don't see anything in my spam filters :) [22:03:25] brion: weird [22:03:35] i sent an email to my own wm.o address and it didn't turn up [22:03:53] Maryana: kickoff time [22:04:28] maybe you're blacklisted somehow :) [22:06:13] ouch [22:06:17] okay, *really* brb [22:44:37] alright, more investigations into LatinIME tomorrow. [22:44:42] ow am off to bed. gnite folks! [22:47:44] nini yuvi [22:55:23] oops, prematurely disconnected [22:55:30] MaxSem nah, that was fine [22:55:52] heh, this one was a long one, MaxSem couldn't stand it anymore ;) [22:58:25] jgonera, it took about a movie's length [22:58:49] true [22:58:53] and this movie will get no Oscars [23:51:31] Change merged: Jdlrobson; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43099 [23:51:31] Change merged: Ori.livneh; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/43098