[00:00:08] did you look at the video you can SEEE the shoe! [00:00:15] I told him I thought I was seeing things! [00:00:22] I have not. I can see it in my mind's eye :) [00:00:48] i think the QA folks have been drinking some kool-aid [00:00:50] New review: Jdlrobson; "Ignore jenkins. It's moaning about something being wrong that isn't!" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45248 [00:01:04] https://saucelabs.com/tests/9cfbf395848a47808cb14ee692bdeb82 [00:01:20] Maryana: is vibha free? if so i'm coming up\ [00:01:49] awjr: Željko: I think the android test is passing because the verification is not good [00:01:49] it never goes to san francisco chronicle page [00:01:49] and "send_keys :enter" iOS interprets as a shoe [00:01:49] me: aha! [00:01:49] Željko: :return is a t-shirt [00:01:51] * chrismcmahon <3 SauceLabs. sometimes you can't believe it until you see the video [00:02:06] ha! I thoughly entertained [00:02:36] chrismcmahon: jcmish any idea why jenkins spat its dummy out on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45248 ? Also I can't seem to be able to re-trigger tests anymore for MFE like I used to - did the UI change? [00:02:48] brion: any word from the internet about v3.3 ? [00:03:06] tfinc, does Asher interview everyone nowadays? [00:03:29] tfinc: a couple rewtweets, one person glad to see landscape mode :) [00:03:35] no problems reported [00:03:53] MaxSem: yes. partner. [00:04:21] jdlrobson: not sure, but come on up [00:04:22] jdlrobson: not our jenkins but 22:22:45 stderr: error: refs/remotes/origin/master does not point to a valid object! 22:22:45 error: Trying to write ref refs/heads/master with nonexistent object 41573bef1eefa47f6dda1cde8d110f88caf52884 22:22:45 fatal: Cannot update the ref 'HEAD'. [00:04:23] * SickPanda navigates around javaland [00:05:01] tfinc, ok. I asked cause I need to know how much time to dedicate on scalability [00:05:22] now I can leave most of this to him [00:06:08] chrismcmahon: ok.. any idea how i can retrigger that test to see if it was a blip? [00:06:47] jdlrobson: not off the top of my head. Krinkle maybe? ^^ [00:07:01] jdlrobson: i think she's about to step out, actually, but she says she'll be back a bit later [00:09:23] Krinkle: let me know when I can bug you and take advantage of you being in the same room for once :) [00:09:29] Maryana: yup she just mailed me [00:10:38] jdlrobson: Just saw this yeah I don't think we access to kick it off [00:10:46] :( [00:10:51] I was gonna say one of the IT guys :( [00:13:17] SickPanda: brion: did you guys get your first feature pass on the wiki ? [00:13:31] jdlrobson, jcmish hashar or ^demon most likely [00:13:33] tfinc: I pinged you the link a while ago [00:13:34] tfinc: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Apps/Commons [00:13:37] and yeah, maybe Krinkle [00:13:41] nice [00:13:44] tfinc: the stuff at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Apps/Commons#Features or? [00:13:54] that work for now [00:13:59] i'll fold it into a project page [00:14:03] hashar is OOO for a while [00:14:09] tfinc: awesome [00:14:15] I'm running to pick up the kidlet back in a little [00:15:36] jdlrobson: also, i bet if you make a random change, git commit —amend and resubmit for review it will trigger jenkins again [00:15:46] you could even just slightly modify the commit message [00:15:49] awjr: sure.. i didn't want to get messy though [00:16:01] jdlrobson: jenkins already did that for you :p [00:16:07] (all dependent patch sets would need updating to) [00:16:28] oh right [00:16:31] blech [00:16:31] so awjr MaxSem I'm considering rewriting the donate page in php [00:16:44] the donate page? [00:16:49] are you working for fundraising now? [00:16:50] donate image page in alpha [00:16:55] ohh [00:17:01] that language is very confusing to me [00:17:04] this is gonna be so much fun :P [00:17:06] soon to be known as uploads dashboard [00:17:06] https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.org/projects/mobile/cards/328 [00:17:18] yeah that makes sense [00:17:18] hmmm, I should start calling it the Commons Donate app perhaps :P [00:20:10] 'donate' has such fiscal connotations… is it actually more effective at getitng people to upload photos than saying 'upload an image' or whatever? i would think it's more confusing to people, but i am not a good litmus test for what most people think/do [00:21:48] Maryana: ^ [00:22:20] donate has really strong fundraising connotations [00:22:44] we should explain to people in various ways that they're donating their images, but when it comes to what to put on the button, we should be more clear than that [00:23:06] my 2 pence [00:23:08] i concur [00:23:09] SickPanda: the only problem with the vim plugin for chrome is that when i think i'm in an editor/irc/messenger/whatever and i start typing a message/code/etc, but im actually still in chrome, weird things happen [00:23:25] ? [00:23:32] like you think you're in edit mode but you aren't? [00:23:44] hehe yeah [00:24:08] and it usually takes me a sentence's worth of keystrokes to realize wtf is going on [00:24:42] heh [00:24:48] it's a bit awkward about that, yeah [00:25:54] awjr: there's also vimperator, which is a much more full featured firefox plugin [00:26:31] cool, i generally don't use firefox much tho [00:26:44] i still like the vim plugin for chrome like crazy :) [00:27:00] awjr: :D [00:27:04] awjr: contribute to it! :D [00:27:13] :D [00:28:36] [Commons-iOS] brion pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/1uRQPw [00:28:36] Commons-iOS/master 296e024 Brion Vibber: XML -> JSON... [00:28:52] JSON turns out to be easy on iOS 5+ [00:28:55] brion: haha [00:28:57] nice [00:28:58] built-in library to deserialize into an array [00:29:04] it'll never be easy in Java :( [00:29:07] heh [00:29:12] also I just found out that default XPath is slooow [00:29:17] and i'll need to figure a fix out sometime [00:29:21] works for now though [00:29:22] heh [00:29:23] (in Java) [00:29:50] brion: for android, all the current java HTTP libs sucked (sortof), so I had to take an abandoned one and add more features to it [00:29:51] :( [00:29:57] fuuuuun [00:29:57] it's pretty neat now, of course [00:35:12] SickPanda: is JSONLib just too horrible for nested stuff? [00:35:18] looks like it would be a bit verbose [00:35:20] brion: the casts [00:35:22] zomg the casts [00:35:26] i first started out using it [00:35:31] and implemented java-mwapi [00:35:35] and then as I wrote the tests [00:35:39] json.getJSONObject('login').getString('token') [00:35:46] vs json.login.token (JS) [00:35:56] or json[@"login"][@"token"] (obj-c) [00:36:31] brion: hmm, I was using json-simple [00:36:39] and it was casts after casts after casts [00:36:46] ew [00:37:04] android seems to ship with the json.org JSONObject - http://developer.android.com/reference/org/json/JSONObject.html [00:37:06] jdlrobson: awjr: What's up? [00:37:14] if you just use .get() you'll have to cast everything [00:37:17] Krinkle: just a little issue we had with jenkins [00:37:22] but it has per-type methods which don't look too awful [00:37:31] jdlrobson: k, anything in particular? [00:37:40] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45248 < Krinkle not sure how to rerun it and what went wrong [00:37:42] wish you could just use an array operator [] in java :) [00:38:08] brion: I didn't notice that - I wrote java-mwapi to be generic java, so missed this [00:38:10] It says: 22:22:45 ERROR: Error cloning remote repo 'origin' : Could not clone /var/lib/zuul/git/mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend [00:38:23] jdlrobson: When was this jenkins job created? Did it work before? [00:38:32] brion: either way, I think XPath leads to easier code as far as java is concerned [00:38:41] your choice :) [00:38:47] brion: your opinion? [00:38:58] i'm not sure - it just failed on this one for some reason [00:38:58] getJSONObject('login').getString('token') [00:38:59] as long as it works, doesn't much matter either way [00:39:06] vs .xpath('/login/token') [00:39:15] okay, so `/var/lib/zuul/git/mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend` does exist on gallium [00:39:20] New review: Krinkle; "recheck" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45248 [00:39:26] lets see if it works noe [00:39:29] i wanted to re-trigger it to see if it was a blip but i seem to have lost the ability to re-trigger the test [00:39:34] the xpath will be more expensive because it has to parse the query, but it's unlikely to be criticial-path stuff [00:39:46] Krinkle: does replying recheck automatically re trigger now?! (that's cool) [00:39:51] yes [00:40:02] sweet - that was the missing piece of information :) thanks for helping! [00:40:07] yw [00:40:09] where are you btw [00:43:56] * SickPanda grrs at maven [00:55:09] [java-mwapi] yuvipanda pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/Fg_EvA [00:55:09] java-mwapi/master b22c28f YuviPanda: Added maven dependency to http-fluent [01:00:28] Krinkle is that nugget of very useful information documented anywhere? (re forcing jenkins to rerun) [01:01:27] ok. http-fluent mavenized, request filed for org.wikimedia [01:01:30] for java-mwapi [01:01:31] all good [01:01:33] good night everyone :) [01:16:56] awjr: don't know, maybe hashar knows [01:17:01] (he implemented it) [01:18:18] New patchset: JGonera; "Add M.define() and M.require() + tests" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45284 [01:35:37] SickPanda: how are you still awake ? [01:39:12] tfinc: I sent two email out to ask about wedding photographers I'll let you know when I hear something back [01:39:31] preilly: i really appreciate that. thank you. [01:39:36] tfinc: np [01:40:15] tfinc: this is one of them http://www.rileymacleanweddings.com/ [01:40:34] better link: http://rileymacleanweddings.com/filter/wedding [01:43:02] preilly: lots of nice ones there. im enjoying them [01:43:43] tfinc: you could try emailing riley@rileymaclean.com as well [01:43:46] ok [01:45:50] tfinc: here is a Facebook link as well https://www.facebook.com/pages/Riley-MacLean-Photography/340459630952 [02:15:33] awjr: talked with robla [02:15:45] awjr: he's feeling pretty good that we could deploy by thursday [02:24:46] New review: Jdlrobson; "looks good i'd like to see it in use though before merging! (I suspect that is coming..?)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 0 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45284 [05:15:51] SickPanda: why you not sleep? [05:17:47] notnarayan: let's do it here [05:17:58] SickPanda: yes. [05:18:02] notnarayan: yeah, no app launchers I think [05:18:08] don't see a need for them this time? [05:18:21] unless, we want to have a mini-tutorial of sorts? [05:18:35] SickPanda: with my uploads and other categories, well need an app [05:18:49] there's no my uploads for this [05:18:52] only my current uploads [05:18:57] will show up when you tap the notification [05:18:58] SickPanda: a mini tutorial, we can do it the first time the user decides to share on commons [05:19:19] SickPanda: 8. is my uploads [05:19:54] notnarayan: again, as I said, it is my current uploads [05:19:55] not my uploads [05:20:01] only the files that are currently uploading [05:20:09] SickPanda: i see [05:20:15] SickPanda: we can do a tutorial like http://www.archer-group.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Pulse1-320x480.jpg [05:20:31] works [05:21:18] SickPanda so will the currently uploading stay in the generic gallery or an app? [05:21:27] notnarayan: gallery [05:21:36] workflow still starts from camera or gallery [05:21:37] no launcher [05:22:15] SickPanda: can an image in the gallery have a lil commons icon, to suggest that it has been uploaded to commons [05:22:50] SickPanda: also, i can do this icon in such a way that it also changes color so as to suggest progress [05:22:58] nope [05:23:17] no control over anything inside gallery itself [05:25:07] SickPanda: did you see the mockup i sent you yesterday [05:25:11] yes [05:25:26] seems out of scope for this release? [05:25:33] SickPanda: i was wondering if you could pull the image of the day [05:25:34] yes [05:25:47] yes, we could. FeaturedFeeds, etc [05:25:51] SickPanda: well i was looking at my uploads :) [05:25:53] but not for a while. [05:25:56] SickPanda: nice :) [05:26:08] SickPanda not for 4th feb [05:26:10] next up would be my uploads, and then I think the campaigns stuf [05:26:10] f [05:26:32] SickPanda: sounds good [05:26:33] and let's think about them when that turns up :) [05:26:38] hello tfinc [05:26:47] SickPanda: how are you awake already? [05:27:02] tfinc: I'm trying to switch to slightly more normal people hours. [05:27:04] futile, I know [05:27:06] but still [05:27:23] what can a panda do but try? [05:27:28] been scheming with notnarayan [05:27:36] tfinc: hello! [05:28:13] SickPanda: so, tell me about #4 [05:28:42] notnarayan: so, that ties into 8 [05:28:42] do tell [05:29:05] when upload fails, it shows up there with a failed indicator [05:29:07] and you can hit retry [05:30:06] SickPanda: can we do anything within the gallery? [05:31:49] nope [05:31:50] SickPanda the failed indicator would be a notification [05:32:08] so [05:32:21] currently there is one notification showing for each upload [05:32:39] but since there is no more than one upload happening at one time [05:32:46] I'd want to move to a dropboxy type model [05:32:52] where we have one notificiation [05:32:57] which goes 'uploading 1 / x' [05:33:11] SickPanda: and then says, 3 uploaded 4 failed [05:33:14] tapping that shows you current uploads [05:33:26] yes [05:33:37] so these are persistent ongoing notifications [05:33:52] when an upload fails, we'll also show a new notification (per failure) [05:35:09] ok, tapping that would open the generic gallery [05:35:47] SickPanda: can you send me the current upload app [05:37:55] notnarayan: no builds yet, let me set that up [05:38:15] notnarayan: no, the failure notification will also just open up the my uploads screen :P [05:38:53] SickPanda: I'm a lil confused where this my uploads is placed. :P [05:38:56] if an upload fails due to a network error, it cancels all uploads coming after it [05:39:14] notnarayan: it's just 'list of currently uploading files' [05:39:25] SickPanda: ah, i seee [05:39:27] when the notification says '1 / 10' [05:39:29] it lists the 10 [05:39:30] SickPanda: got it. [05:39:34] its a list. [05:39:36] yes [05:39:41] of currently uploading files. [05:39:50] SickPanda: so, thats 4+8 [05:40:02] yeah [05:40:15] 4, 5, 6, 7 depend on 8 [05:40:21] SickPanda: :) [05:41:36] SickPanda: ping me before you crash, I'm doing the mini tutorial page right now. will send you the image in a bit. [05:41:48] notnarayan: i slept and woke up sir :) [05:41:52] SickPanda: what are the other tasks i have at hand [05:41:56] SickPanda: lies. [05:41:59] honest [05:42:01] i slept for 4 hours [05:42:37] SickPanda: come to bhutan, i have some fresh Darjeeling tea [05:42:52] drinking tulsi ginger tea right now :D [05:43:05] notnarayan: will be there soon! [05:47:09] SickPanda: looking at the list, what else do i have on my plate [05:48:07] notnarayan: I think 'current uploads' only [05:48:29] SickPanda: current uploads and the mini tutorial. [05:49:14] notnarayan: hmmm, ok [05:49:37] eventually we're going to need a bigger tutorial on what is acceptable and what is not in commons [05:49:47] you'll probably have to work with Maryana, etc for tha [05:49:49] t [05:49:53] not for this iteration, of course [05:52:25] SickPanda: you 'are' coming tom. [05:52:29] notnarayan: yeah [05:52:30] i am [05:52:40] hopefully catch a morning bus [05:52:53] SickPanda catch tonights bus [05:53:09] SickPanda: so you 'sleep' on the bus [05:53:10] hmmm [05:53:28] possible if I work all day and then just send in status update [07:17:49] SickPanda: are you around? http://cdn.dropmark.com/16089/2a10873e4aa23f4897843f23ae86c66eb87e713c/mini-help.png [07:18:02] looking [07:18:04] SickPanda: just to get an idea. :) not final [07:18:25] other than the confusion over donate vs upload [07:18:32] and the fact that I can't properly read the font [07:18:34] looks great :) [07:18:40] :) [07:19:02] SickPanda: ill choose a better typeface for this. this one is a lil think [07:19:04] *think [07:19:08] *thin [07:19:20] make sure it is a free font, etc [07:19:28] SickPanda: of course :) [07:19:44] SickPanda: also, the user would see this the first time he hits upload. [07:20:13] yup [07:20:15] me likey [07:20:28] I'll have to write code for this [07:20:35] because text will have to match [07:21:02] SickPanda so, its something like this http://cdn.dropmark.com/16089/867da6f81cbd749357e44391220ba4d4cf34187b/upload.png [07:21:11] SickPanda: let this be an image [07:21:19] won't work [07:21:23] multiple screen sizes [07:21:26] multiple screen resolutions [07:21:32] SickPanda: ill give you multiple images [07:21:32] orientations [07:21:50] losing road sir. there are hundreds of different sizes :P [07:21:58] doing it in code will be easier [07:22:00] SickPanda what about transparency ? [07:22:09] easy to do with code [07:22:13] SickPanda: if its not too much work, we should do it [07:22:38] blur is hard (for background image) [07:22:41] transparency is easy [07:37:29] SickPanda: do you still eat? [07:40:21] notnarayan: should [07:40:22] yeah [07:40:23] soon [07:40:25] now that you remind me [10:17:50] [java-mwapi] yuvipanda pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/MInQvw [10:17:50] java-mwapi/master 828e293 YuviPanda: Updated POM file [10:17:50] java-mwapi/master 6bd2885 YuviPanda: Added explicit LICENSE bits [10:49:55] YuviPanda, you're healed now?:) [10:50:10] the specific sickness I had, I no longer have :D [10:50:15] I'm just afflicted with Java and XML now [10:51:56] be thankful that your Java is not J2EE [14:10:07] New review: Zfilipin; "I disagree. We already have a test that checks if search box is displayed at home page." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 0 C: 0; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45179 [14:32:08] New review: Cmcmahon; "I missed the other duplicate check, merging now" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 0 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45179 [14:32:19] New review: Cmcmahon; "I missed the other duplicate check, merging now" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45179 [14:32:19] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45266 [14:32:19] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45253 [14:32:19] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45252 [14:32:19] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45182 [14:32:20] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45179 [14:44:13] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Make it easy to run tests using PhantomJS" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45327 [14:59:46] New review: Cmcmahon; "easy support for PhantomJS" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45327 [14:59:48] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/45327 [17:13:12] * MaxSem|android slaps his ISP [17:15:56] what happend? [17:18:07] my isp happened;) [17:19:16] heh did you forget to pay the bill again? [17:20:17] its not the first day of the month [17:21:05] apparently, their l2tp server or its db went down [17:21:26] doh [17:22:02] and the only internet cafe i can go uses them too [17:22:49] damn! [17:47:00] frak [17:47:08] it almost works [17:51:07] awjr: won't be making standup :( [17:51:08] sending in notes [17:51:17] ok YuviPanda, thanks for the head's up [17:53:08] awjr: seem to be having issues with the hangout link today :/ [17:53:18] jdlrobson: what is the problem? [17:53:28] it starts loading but then just shows the hangout logo [17:53:43] awjr: sent [17:53:55] seems to be doing same on my laptop [17:54:00] the loading bar just hangs [17:54:05] does it work for you? [17:54:07] yeah it's doing that for me too :( [17:54:11] boo [17:54:18] ergg might be down [17:54:19] let's try again in a few minutes [17:54:20] i'll keep at it [17:54:25] sometimes it just fixes itself [17:54:30] gonna go back to the chrome box now.. [17:54:31] ive seen this happen befoer [17:54:38] will try and install irc on there [17:54:38] also, sometimes a new hangout link will do the trick [17:54:59] jdlrobson: this works: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/1e67af01df929ef974602ad79231bcf40ece0bed?authuser=0&hl=en [17:55:06] MaxSem ^ [17:55:10] brion ^ [17:55:59] meh [17:56:08] my connection is down [17:56:41] thanks, MaxSem [17:57:31] awjr: still not working :( [17:58:04] awjr: what's the backup? [17:58:33] MaxSem|android: if you can't join the hangout, can you please send your standup notes via email? [17:58:38] officechromebox: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/1e67af01df929ef974602ad79231bcf40ece0bed?authuser=0&hl=en [17:58:45] awjr: we cant join the hangout either [17:58:57] me and jcmish are in… weird [17:59:07] officechromebox: lies! [17:59:11] \o/ [18:07:05] brion: can you give me push access to wikimedia/android-mwlogin? [18:07:16] yeah sec [18:07:31] brion: and setup IRC push if it isn't there [18:07:51] added staff team [18:08:02] sweet [18:08:06] brion: IRC? [18:08:10] setting it up..... [18:08:26] what's the point of pushing if you can't show off in channel... :P [18:08:31] hehe [18:08:33] [android-mwlogin] none pushed 0 new commits to master: http://git.io/kiSoFQ [18:08:39] works \o/ [18:09:07] [android-mwlogin] yuvipanda pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/zWDk6Q [18:09:07] android-mwlogin/master d53f8c9 YuviPanda: Mavenize Everything! [18:09:15] ah [18:09:18] nice :) [18:11:23] * YuviPanda waves at notnarayan [18:11:32] greetings YuviPanda [18:12:07] YuviPanda: what were you telling about iOS? [18:12:10] awjr: did you see my message about a deployment on thursday yesterday ? [18:12:30] tfinc i did; i sent robla and Ct an email asking for certain confirmation [18:12:35] good [18:12:38] if we do thursday, it would have to be early [18:12:41] but that's fine [18:12:46] notnarayan: brion is working on it, I think [18:12:53] since max and i start early anwyay [18:13:05] and in theory, redeploying the changes should not be aproblem [18:15:25] hm? [18:15:30] meh [18:15:55] my connectivity problems persist [18:16:04] * YuviPanda points and laughs at MaxSem|android [18:16:06] bwahahaha [18:16:07] :P [18:16:17] so it would be easier if i posted my status here [18:16:33]