[00:12:19] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: JGonera; "Overhaul photo upload code (#332)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46646
[00:18:36] <jdlrobson>	 sigh
[00:18:38] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "don't send origin when cors not being used (arthur was right)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47043
[00:18:39] <jdlrobson>	 ^ awjr
[00:18:56] <jdlrobson>	 ^ jgonera
[00:20:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: awjrichards; "Refactor links and url code in skin (code cleanup)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46550
[00:21:32] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: awjrichards; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46550
[00:21:48] <awjr>	 jdlrobson: :p
[00:22:46] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: awjrichards; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47043
[00:24:10] <tfinc_>	 brion: resetting the mini now. will have  it to you shortly
[00:24:22] <brion>	 sweet thanks
[00:25:23] <awjr>	 jdlrobson: it feels really weird to me to generally have message names be values but when it needs to be parsed, make the message name the key and array( 'parse' ) be its value
[00:25:33] <awjr>	 (re https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/46885/2/MobileFrontend.php
[00:26:27] <jdlrobson>	 possibly - but talking to trevor yesterday he said that was how he would do it
[00:26:28] <jdlrobson>	 i
[00:26:29] <jdlrobson>	 f
[00:26:32] <awjr>	 the inconsistency is unnerving and i suspect would require more processing overhead to cope with
[00:26:35] <jdlrobson>	 it's backwards compatible
[00:26:48] <jdlrobson>	 this is why I was hoping Trevor would review..
[00:27:18] <awjr>	 is he still in the office? sometimes you just have to ask him and person and he'll do stuff like that no prob
[00:27:20] <jdlrobson>	 the other way to do it would be to have a parsedMessages property in the module but I could imagine messages needing more complex processing then just parse
[00:27:23] <jdlrobson>	 no not today sadly :(
[00:27:52] <awjr>	 im actually surprised RL doesn't handle this for you already somehow
[00:29:02] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Overhaul photo upload code (#332)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46646
[00:30:27] <awjr>	 the backwards compatability is nice and it opens the door to standardizing on that format in the future
[00:30:33] <awjr>	 even if it feels weird now
[00:30:42] <awjr>	 im not coming up with a better way to do it
[00:31:57] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: JGonera; "I'm not going to -1 because I really want it merged, but there's one small inline comment." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 0 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46646
[00:33:45] <awjr>	 jgonera: looks like that's almost ready to go ^?
[00:33:51] <awjr>	 that is exciting :)
[00:34:00] <jgonera>	 I hope so
[00:34:03] <awjr>	 :D
[00:34:19] <jgonera>	 there's still a bit more to come to make it more reliable, but this already works
[00:34:40] <awjr>	 that is great, nice work
[00:35:33] <jdlrobson>	 http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:MobileFrontend/Photo_upload < Maryana
[00:38:51] <Maryana>	 please can we change our channel topic to "wikimedia mobile: flying with dragons"?
[00:41:29] <awjr>	 i think MaxSem is op? ^
[00:42:09] <awjr>	 hahahah
[00:42:15] <awjr>	 nice.
[00:42:32] <MaxSem>	 you don't need an op to change it
[00:43:30] <awjr>	 oh wow i totally thoughted you needed op
[00:44:53] <MaxSem>	 it's Wikipedia
[00:45:38] <MaxSem>	 tfinc_, I guess we're not hiring Jon and Juliusz anymore, which position do you want to advertize?
[00:45:56] <tfinc_>	 for the channel topic ?
[00:46:01] <MaxSem>	 yup
[00:49:39] <awjr>	 im wrapping up for the day - anyone need anything from me before i go? i wont be back til monday!
[00:49:48] <awjr>	 jdlrobson: are you still ok to cover standup for me tomrrow?
[00:53:53] <jdlrobson>	 awjr: sure np
[00:57:39] <awjr>	 thanks jdlrobson
[00:57:51] <awjr>	 im outta here - have a great friday and weekend everyone!
[01:00:50] <jdlrobson>	 you too awjr
[01:02:25] <tfinc_>	 MaxSem: comment for you to respond to http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/01/31/geodata-a-new-age-of-geotagging-on-wikipedia/#comment-213040
[01:02:40] <tfinc_>	 MaxSem: put up the partner and app role
[01:07:54] <MaxSem>	 will respond tomorrow
[01:07:59] <MaxSem>	 good night
[01:29:53] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Ori.livneh; "Discussed this w/Juluisz and Jon on IRC. The overall approach seems sensible, so I'm giving this a +..." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 0 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46646
[01:30:28] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Ori.livneh; "Discussed this w/Juluisz and Jon on IRC. The overall approach seems sensible, so I'm giving this a +..." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 1 C: 0;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46290
[01:40:51] <wikipedia-github>	 [Commons-iOS] brion pushed 3 new commits to master: http://git.io/-VnNUQ
[01:40:51] <wikipedia-github>	 Commons-iOS/master 3de8c19 Brion Vibber: Initial support for importing files from other apps...
[01:40:51] <wikipedia-github>	 Commons-iOS/master 1557bb2 Brion Vibber: Add initial file icon support for SVG & PDF...
[01:40:51] <wikipedia-github>	 Commons-iOS/master a81fbaa Brion Vibber: Merge branch 'filetypes': add support for sharing files from other apps
[01:49:14] <wikipedia-github>	 [Commons-iOS] brion pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/fPNXYA
[01:49:14] <wikipedia-github>	 Commons-iOS/master 860fa01 Brion Vibber: temp disable launch URL processing, since we seem to get asked to process it a second time
[07:48:59] <wikipedia-github>	 [Commons-iOS] felixmo opened pull request #7: Image cache + fixes (master...master)  http://git.io/PDMx4g
[08:52:32] <wikipedia-github>	 [Commons-iOS] felixmo opened pull request #8: Image cache + NSUserDefaults + fixes (master...master)  http://git.io/q_vG9A
[10:55:34] <wikipedia-github>	 [Commons-iOS] dz1111 opened pull request #9: Cleanup of table view controller (master...master)  http://git.io/a8s5tg
[12:29:03] <MaxSem>	 aude, hi
[14:16:21] <aude>	 hi MaxSem
[14:18:31] <MaxSem>	 aude, whom else would you like to see at the OSM hackathon?
[14:19:42] <aude>	 can YuviPanda|afk come?
[14:20:43] <aude>	 i'll try to take a look at your puppet stuff this weekend, as i'm hanging out with osm people this weekend
[14:21:10] <aude>	 maybe brion? since he's into maps stuff?
[14:21:39] <aude>	 or if the date is not set, let's see if we can pick another time or place that works for tim and/or kai?
[14:24:06] <aude>	 MaxSem: if it's a really small number of people, i imagine SF could work and kai might be able to come
[14:24:15] <aude>	 or WMDE office in berlin could work and tim might come
[14:24:34] * aude  imagined a bigger group 

[14:25:46] <MaxSem>	 Tomasz wanted to use an existing event to avoid much hassle
[14:26:15] <aude>	 MaxSem: true but if it's really less than 10 people, it's not a big deal
[14:26:44] <aude>	 not sure we would accomplish as much without tim or kai
[14:26:57] <aude>	 if SF, michal migurski could come
[14:29:56] <aude>	 MaxSem: maybe tom morris would come? (he is in the UK)
[14:30:14] <aude>	 i'll have to think about it more this weekend
[14:33:55] <MaxSem>	 aude, who are those people (Michal and Tom), OSM devs?
[14:34:59] <aude>	 michal is osm developer / designer in SF
[14:35:12] <aude>	 tom is a wikipeidan and osm mapper (and a developer)
[14:37:54] <aude>	 MaxSem: the key question we have is how to integrate the multilingual maps stuff
[14:38:13] <aude>	 2) how to provide support for stuff like that
[14:38:42] <MaxSem>	 mmm, space requirements for multilingual tiles would be insane
[14:38:44] <aude>	 how to make labs really work for more experimental osm stuff
[14:38:55] <aude>	 not necessarily the way they do it
[14:39:44] <aude>	 it's very sucky the way tiles render now with mismashed language labels
[14:39:59] <MaxSem>	 yeah
[14:40:15] <aude>	 then how to support multiple styles, such as ones on the toolserver
[14:40:41] <aude>	 maybe also, how WMF could provide a "caching" / tile server for osm itslef
[14:40:58] <aude>	 e.g. one based in ashburn or somewhere to serve osm.org tiles to north america
[14:40:58] <MaxSem>	 I was thinking about it too
[14:41:06] <aude>	 via their geodns stuff
[14:41:32] <aude>	 so that would be an exact  copy of osm, vs. wikimedia probably wants to evolve to something a little more customized + mobile friendly
[14:41:39] <aude>	 no reason we can't do both
[14:42:06] <aude>	 for  a hack weekend, let's document the objectives on some wiki
[14:43:17] <MaxSem>	 aude, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Events/Wikimedia_Mapping_Event_2013
[14:43:24] <aude>	 mmm, okay
[14:43:40] <aude>	 people want to know it's worth their time
[14:44:45] <aude>	 i think we can get #1 done before march
[14:45:13] <MaxSem>	 yes - but in a restricted way
[14:45:28] <aude>	 sure, an osm copy
[14:45:40] <MaxSem>	 ie how OSM does it, with one server
[14:45:44] <aude>	 exactly
[14:46:15] <aude>	 then maybe we could scale with 2 tile servers or something
[14:46:50] <MaxSem>	 mmm, I have ****8**** machines for tile rendering
[14:46:55] <MaxSem>	 and 8 more for DB
[14:46:56] <aude>	 :o
[14:46:58] <aude>	 that's crazy
[14:47:00] <aude>	 really
[14:47:21] <aude>	 we need to allocate some of them towards supporting tim's stuff and the gadgets
[14:47:24] <MaxSem>	 ...which might actually not work cause Mapnik is very sensitive to DB latency
[14:48:53] <MaxSem>	 if we have a fast and scalable way to serve tiles, the rest should be much easier
[14:49:02] <aude>	 yes
[14:49:24] <aude>	 i'd say 8 servers all doing the same exact thing is a bit much
[14:49:27] <MaxSem>	 for example, now that we have GeoData we don't need much of WikiMiniAtlas's backend
[14:49:42] <aude>	 but if they can serve multiple styles or multilingual / mobile, then good
[14:49:53] <aude>	 sure
[14:50:17] <aude>	 or a copy of nominatim (sp) the osm search engine
[14:50:57] <aude>	 or some xapi type thing that is optimized for querying
[14:51:06] <aude>	 lots of things other servers could be doing
[14:51:26] <aude>	 but it all has to be puppetized , at minimum
[14:53:10] <MaxSem>	 first stage would be to serve just what OSM has
[14:53:19] <MaxSem>	 that's my initial worry
[14:54:36] <aude>	 yes
[14:54:46] <aude>	 we don't need 8 servers for that
[14:54:50] <aude>	 start with 2
[15:00:10] <MaxSem>	 2?
[15:00:29] <MaxSem>	 I think I might start with 1
[15:01:10] <MaxSem>	 that is, 1 tileserver/DB
[15:01:15] <MaxSem>	 combined
[15:01:24] <MaxSem>	 and a plenty of caches
[15:10:00] <aude>	 yep
[15:10:13] <aude>	 2 = 1 db and 1 tiles
[15:11:10] * aude  going offline until probably tomorrow morning

[15:11:18] <MaxSem>	 ok, bye
[15:11:48] <aude>	 will have questions about puppet this weekend
[15:12:05] <MaxSem>	 aude, ask any time:)
[15:12:12] <aude>	 ok
[15:12:20] <aude>	 later
[15:12:28] <MaxSem>	 cya
[17:05:55] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46646
[17:05:56] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jdlrobson; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46290
[17:43:11] * YuviPanda  peeks around

[17:43:17] <YuviPanda>	 hey aude
[17:43:19] * YuviPanda  reads backlog

[17:45:11] <brion>	 what up all
[17:45:39] <YuviPanda>	 heyllo brion
[17:45:44] * YuviPanda  is spending his day on Udacity

[17:46:03] <brion>	 nice
[17:46:13] <YuviPanda>	 brion: can you respond to the email drdee sent?
[17:46:28] <brion>	 YuviPanda: i discovered how to share files from one app to another on iOS, I can now upload PDFs from Keynote or SVGs from TouchDraw :D
[17:46:30] <brion>	 looking
[17:46:34] <YuviPanda>	 wah
[17:46:36] <YuviPanda>	 wonderful :)
[17:47:34] <brion>	 UA strings? ah fun
[17:47:38] <YuviPanda>	 aude: would love to come :)
[17:48:46] <YuviPanda>	 brion: I also found https://code.google.com/p/osmdroid/ which I'm guessing is something I can use for maps in the future :)
[17:48:53] <YuviPanda>	 though I'm still split between that and leaflet via webkit
[17:49:03] <brion>	 oh nice
[17:49:17] <brion>	 either way we need something that works on non-google-extended devices yeah
[17:49:31] <brion>	 oh that reminds me -- amazon has some maps api now for kindle fire
[17:49:40] <YuviPanda>	 brion: also https://code.google.com/p/mapsforge/
[17:49:47] <YuviPanda>	 brion: yeah, and I'm guessing we should also be on OSM
[17:49:49] <YuviPanda>	 rather than use GMaps
[17:49:50] <brion>	 https://developer.amazon.com/sdk/maps.html
[17:50:00] <YuviPanda>	 (or bing or equivalent)
[17:50:36] <YuviPanda>	 brion: i'm sure there are some renderers for iOS too
[17:50:40] <brion>	 yeah. i hope we get our own tile servers one of these days
[17:51:13] <YuviPanda>	 brion: yeah, MaxSem is on it
[17:51:19] <brion>	 yay
[17:51:25] <YuviPanda>	 that's what aude was talking about too, I think
[17:51:36] <brion>	 darn, iOS omnigraffle is ipad-only.
[17:51:54] <brion>	 doesn't export SVG anyway, but it does export PDF
[17:56:10] <YuviPanda>	 :D
[17:56:17] <YuviPanda>	 okay, back to udacity and then some early sleep
[17:56:20] <YuviPanda>	 good night everyone.
[17:56:55] <brion>	 night
[18:27:50] <jdlrobson>	 fried chicken for the win! http://mashable.com/2013/01/31/8th-grader-breakup/#m!f1a5
[18:32:36] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "allow ResourceLoader modules to allow parsed messages (bug 43409)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46885
[18:33:20] <Maryana>	 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jim.henderson#A_barnstar_for_you.21
[18:33:29] <Maryana>	 gave the wikipedian a barnstar. wikipedians love barnstars :)
[18:35:24] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "allow ResourceLoader modules to allow parsed messages (bug 43409)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46885
[18:55:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jdlrobson; "Had a chat with Roan and Timo and am going to implement slightly differently" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 0 C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46885
[19:32:17] * tfinc  looks around

[19:32:38] * tfinc  attempts to install the latest android build of commons from https://integration.mediawiki.org/nightly/mobile/android-commons/

[19:35:26] <tfinc>	 YuviPanda: as im correct in assuming that i should be seeing a white screen on load as you only have the share handler installed ?
[19:35:52] <tfinc>	 crash ...
[19:36:10] <tfinc>	 brion: YuviPanda: why don't we just call the app Commons instead of Wikimedia Commons
[19:36:20] <tfinc>	 lets build the brand
[19:36:59] <brion>	 i'm making it say just "Commons" on iOS cause there's no room for "Wikimedia Commons" :)
[19:39:06] <tfinc>	 brion: perfect
[19:39:12] <tfinc>	 YuviPanda: change the name --^
[19:40:01] <brion>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Apps/Commons/iOS/Workflows <- i've thrown up some screenshots of the iOS app in current state
[19:41:41] <Maryana>	 brion: \o/
[19:41:53] <Maryana>	 soooo cooool
[19:41:55] <brion>	 :D
[19:42:04] <brion>	 we can use those screenshots in a press if we can't get a clean-looking video :)
[19:42:08] <brion>	 *preso
[19:43:41] <chrismcmahon>	 brion: wow, nice.  that looks great.
[19:43:50] <brion>	 :D
[19:43:54] <brion>	 thanks!
[19:52:44] * YuviPanda  pokes around

[19:53:00] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: yeah, white screen now. If you share stuff, it shows up there.
[19:53:12] <tfinc>	 YuviPanda: see my comment about changing the name ?
[19:53:53] <YuviPanda>	 we're not the only Commons around - but we're the most popular one. There's Apache, Flickr, Creative, Drupal, etc...
[19:54:02] <YuviPanda>	 and people recognize WIkimedia, rather than Commons...
[19:54:10] * YuviPanda  is a bit skeptical.

[19:54:29] <jdlrobson>	 erg getting confused by RL :(
[19:54:39] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: you encountered a crash where?
[19:54:50] <YuviPanda>	 (2.3 still crashes, i'll deal with it next week)
[19:54:56] <tfinc>	 2.3 crash
[19:55:09] <tfinc>	 YuviPanda: i'm not installing Apache, Flickr, Creative, Drupal on my phone
[19:55:20] <YuviPanda>	 second point still stands
[19:55:31] <YuviPanda>	 people recognize Wikimedia, not Commons.
[19:55:32] <tfinc>	 and no one i know ever talks about Flickr as commons
[19:55:42] <tfinc>	 YuviPanda: thats why you build a brand
[19:55:54] <YuviPanda>	 one away from an existing verrry well known one?
[19:55:55] <tfinc>	 and it needs to line up with iOS
[19:56:04] * YuviPanda  is still unconvinced.

[19:57:14] <tfinc>	 i have yet to have anyone be confused once they see commons and the commons logo
[19:57:48] <YuviPanda>	 we're both talking from anactodes on either side.
[19:57:53] <YuviPanda>	 Either way, this is bikeshedding.
[19:58:03] <tfinc>	 yup
[19:58:12] <YuviPanda>	 So let's avoid that for now.
[19:58:41] <YuviPanda>	 and I'll go to sleep. Good night folks :)
[19:58:51] <tfinc>	 i'm happy to defer it for now and instead have the app actually work on my phone
[19:58:58] <tfinc>	 which is not the case right now
[19:59:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "More message cleanup (minor fix)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47104
[19:59:00] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: you have a 2.3 evice?
[19:59:07] <tfinc>	 thats what i said above
[19:59:15] <YuviPanda>	 thought you had a Nexus S?
[19:59:25] <YuviPanda>	 either way, as I said - it's a known issue. I'll look into it next week.
[19:59:43] <tfinc>	 oh wait. your right. i was testing on 4.1
[19:59:53] <brion>	 YuviPanda: tfinc perhaps we call it 'Wikimedia Commons' in the app stores, and shorten it to 'Commons' on the launcher
[19:59:56] <tfinc>	 and it crashed every time i tried to share
[19:59:58] <brion>	 lots of apps have shorter launcher names
[20:00:18] <tfinc>	 brion: sure
[20:01:41] <YuviPanda>	 brion: we don't really have space constraints on android but
[20:03:54] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: when did you install the app?
[20:10:51] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: just uploaded with latest master on 4.1: https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Test_screen.png
[20:11:07] <YuviPanda>	 however same nightly I downloaded from our server doesn't work
[20:11:09] <YuviPanda>	 nightlies are broken
[20:16:07] <YuviPanda>	 hmm, let me trigger that
[20:16:17] <wikipedia-github>	 [android-commons] yuvipanda pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/i0opWw
[20:16:17] <wikipedia-github>	 android-commons/master e914568 YuviPanda: Show my contributions when someone taps the Ongoing Notification
[20:16:21] * YuviPanda  waits

[20:16:44] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Project Android-Commons (mobile) - Nightly builds build #18: SUCCESS in 30 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/Android-Commons%20(mobile)%20-%20Nightly%20builds/18/
[20:16:44] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 yuvipanda: Show my contributions when someone taps the Ongoing Notification
[20:23:27] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "allow ResourceLoader modules to allow parsed messages (bug 43409)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/46885
[20:28:54] <wikipedia-github>	 [android-commons] yuvipanda pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/wikimedia/android-commons/compare/e914568f6ecf...d128e74fc861
[20:28:54] <wikipedia-github>	 android-commons/master dff41ae YuviPanda: Cleanup styles, remove redundant ones. Fix My Contributions title
[20:28:54] <wikipedia-github>	 android-commons/master d128e74 YuviPanda: Add missing layout file for my contributions
[20:29:05] <YuviPanda>	 hmm, let's see if this works
[20:29:12] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Project Android-Commons (mobile) - Nightly builds build #19: SUCCESS in 23 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/Android-Commons%20(mobile)%20-%20Nightly%20builds/19/
[20:29:13] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * yuvipanda: Cleanup styles, remove redundant ones. Fix My Contributions title
[20:29:13] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 * yuvipanda: Add missing layout file for my contributions
[20:31:31] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: they're broken subtly, but not on builds from my system.
[20:31:41] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: use https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8768784/wikimedia-commons.apk until nightlies are fixed. also mailed mobile-l
[21:01:24] <wikipedia-github>	 [android-commons] yuvipanda pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/BUjcAw
[21:01:24] <wikipedia-github>	 android-commons/master 1ac8d3d YuviPanda: Show images of your contributions (from current device)
[21:01:44] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Project Android-Commons (mobile) - Nightly builds build #20: SUCCESS in 25 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/Android-Commons%20(mobile)%20-%20Nightly%20builds/20/
[21:01:46] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 yuvipanda: Show images of your contributions (from current device)
[21:09:18] <wikipedia-github>	 [android-commons] yuvipanda pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/mQV0SQ
[21:09:18] <wikipedia-github>	 android-commons/master 822f4ef YuviPanda: Show contributions only after user has logged in
[21:09:38] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Project Android-Commons (mobile) - Nightly builds build #21: SUCCESS in 23 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/Android-Commons%20(mobile)%20-%20Nightly%20builds/21/
[21:09:38] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 yuvipanda: Show contributions only after user has logged in
[21:28:37] <YuviPanda>	 brion: ping
[21:28:39] <YuviPanda>	 around?
[21:28:44] <brion>	 YuviPanda: yo
[21:29:01] <dz1111>	 hi brion
[21:29:03] <YuviPanda>	 brion: have an android 4.x+ device to give the app a little spin in?
[21:30:04] <brion>	 dz1111: hey :D
[21:30:12] <brion>	 YuviPanda: i sure do, galaxy nexus 4.1
[21:30:16] <YuviPanda>	 brion: the nightlies are broken, sadly. do try https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8768784/wikimedia-commons.apk
[21:30:19] <YuviPanda>	 in about a minute
[21:30:24] <YuviPanda>	 dropbox being... unsavoury
[21:31:14] * YuviPanda  pokes dropbox with a stick

[21:31:36] <dz1111>	 ive been looking at the ios commons app
[21:33:42] <brion>	 dz1111: i noticed a pull request, thanks :D
[21:34:53] <dz1111>	 you're welcome, hope im not being too forward in making changes, i like how its shaping up
[21:35:05] <YuviPanda>	 brion: dropbox taking ages. can you try https://mega.co.nz/#!S1okxTyL!B03zqzBCMt8kMDT9K4-p40FxUJtm15DnVEK6SEQ55Wk
[21:35:20] <brion>	 patches are always welcome :D
[21:35:43] <brion>	 "Warning: You are using an outdated browser, which adversely affects your file transfer performance. Please upgrade to Google Chrome."
[21:35:57] <brion>	 i'm running fucking firefox 20, bitches. it's newer than chrome, i updated it THIS MORNING
[21:36:04] <YuviPanda>	 :P
[21:36:32] <YuviPanda>	 oh dear, I promised myself i'll go to sleep before 3AM. sigh
[21:36:41] <brion>	 haha
[21:37:13] <YuviPanda>	 brion: got it to download?
[21:37:20] <brion>	 ok got it dl'd and installed
[21:37:53] <brion>	 YuviPanda: did you remove the launcher? i don't see it in my apps list
[21:38:07] <YuviPanda>	 brion: ? There is actually a launcher now...
[21:38:28] <YuviPanda>	 brion: ah, funny bug. It's called 'My Contributions' now :P
[21:38:36] * YuviPanda  notes to fix that

[21:38:46] <brion>	 aha i see it :D
[21:39:17] <brion>	 for some reason i can't scroll the login page
[21:39:30] <brion>	 login button is hidden until i close the keyboard :(
[21:39:33] <YuviPanda>	 brion: your screen is too small for that?
[21:39:46] <dz1111>	 great! ill try to give you some more  :)
[21:39:49] <YuviPanda>	 I need to add slightl better screen size handling there
[21:39:53] <brion>	 360x640 screen points, it should be big enough :P :)
[21:39:56] <brion>	 dz1111: awesome :D
[21:43:05] <brion>	 YuviPanda: my contributions view looks awesome
[21:43:09] <YuviPanda>	 brion: indeed :)
[21:43:22] <YuviPanda>	 brion: i've one performance tweak to do there that should make it even better.
[21:43:27] <brion>	 give that a detail view and it might be best to have the 'tap to show your thingy' after completion open in that view
[21:44:02] <YuviPanda>	 brion: yup, on the cards, but for next iteration. this time I'll just have it open up to web commons
[21:44:06] <YuviPanda>	 on a browser
[21:44:08] <brion>	 ok
[21:44:26] <YuviPanda>	 brion: I'll need to figure out how to appropriately parse {{Information}} without driving myself to drink / death
[21:44:26] <brion>	 it just irks me now because it opens test.wikipedia.org which redirects to test.m.wikipedia.org which doesn't work right now :)
[21:44:27] <YuviPanda>	 :P
[21:44:35] <brion>	 hehe that may be dangerous
[21:44:56] <YuviPanda>	 ah, I didn't know testwiki m was down
[21:45:49] <YuviPanda>	 brion: trying to figure out if I should leverage https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Machine-readable_data
[21:45:53] <YuviPanda>	 or try to parse the wikitext
[21:46:14] <YuviPanda>	 if I parse the wikitext, then edits would be simple(r?) to make (if my parse can roundtrip accurately)
[21:46:37] <brion>	 oh my
[21:46:53] <YuviPanda>	 oh my for which part? :P
[21:47:05] <brion>	 the giant table of stuff describing giant tables of stuff ;)
[21:47:09] <YuviPanda>	 ah yes
[21:47:20] <YuviPanda>	 Still Better Than Regexing Wikitext(TM)
[21:47:24] <brion>	 haha true
[21:47:36] <YuviPanda>	 or... maybe not. oh well
[21:47:40] <YuviPanda>	 that's one iteration away
[21:48:46] <tfinc>	 jdlrobson: jgonera: http://fff.cmiscm.com/#!/main
[21:50:10] <YuviPanda>	 brion: fixed the title issue
[21:50:17] <wikipedia-github>	 [android-commons] yuvipanda pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/j6s7QA
[21:50:17] <wikipedia-github>	 android-commons/master d8c6c30 YuviPanda: Set title for launcher activity appropriately
[21:50:23] <brion>	 tfinc: that's blowing my miiiiiind dude
[21:50:36] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Project Android-Commons (mobile) - Nightly builds build #22: SUCCESS in 23 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/Android-Commons%20(mobile)%20-%20Nightly%20builds/22/
[21:50:37] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 yuvipanda: Set title for launcher activity appropriately
[21:51:20] <jgonera>	 tfinc, just yesterday I said that we could use some subtle animations on our web site
[21:51:42] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: since nightlies are down and dropbox doesn't seem to like me... https://mega.co.nz/#!S1okxTyL!B03zqzBCMt8kMDT9K4-p40FxUJtm15DnVEK6SEQ55Wk
[22:03:05] <tfinc>	 YuviPanda: how are you still awake?
[22:03:23] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: idk, I thought 'okay, one quick look' when you told me it didn't work for you
[22:03:28] <dz1111>	 brion: thanks for the merge
[22:03:31] <YuviPanda>	 and here I am, with a fair bit of the My Contributions work done :|
[22:03:35] <wikipedia-github>	 [Commons-iOS] brion pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/rU3Kng
[22:03:35] <wikipedia-github>	 Commons-iOS/master 8b05e13 Felix Mo: Implemented NSUserDefaults; Added 'defaults.plist' to store default values for app preferences, debug mode setting is now handled by preferences
[22:03:36] <brion>	 dz1111: thanks for the patch :D
[22:04:08] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: I blame you :P
[22:04:15] <tfinc>	 YuviPanda: i'm fine with that
[22:04:17] <tfinc>	 :D
[22:04:32] <YuviPanda>	 :P
[22:04:32] <dz1111>	 brion: whats your opinion on using UUIDs for unique testing filenames?, its not accepted by the wikipedia regex, but just wondering
[22:05:01] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: tried out https://mega.co.nz/#!S1okxTyL!B03zqzBCMt8kMDT9K4-p40FxUJtm15DnVEK6SEQ55Wk ?
[22:05:09] <brion>	 dz1111: for making titles for uploads? we want descriptive, human-readable names if possible :)
[22:05:14] <YuviPanda>	 (I am actually quite liking this Mega thing. Faster than Dropbox for me)
[22:05:15] <brion>	 or for saving local files?
[22:06:36] <dz1111>	 brion: probably for internal use, there are issues when its based on time
[22:06:49] <brion>	 uuids for internal use would be just fine
[22:07:03] <brion>	 i already found that timestamps alone are insufficient when fetching multiple thumbnails in rapid succession :)
[22:07:13] <dz1111>	 brion: exactly
[22:07:15] <brion>	 added a quick random suffix, but better to use some system function for generating uuids i suspect
[22:08:48] <brion>	 http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD820ZM/A/lightning-to-micro-usb-adapter?fnode=3a whyyyy didn't they just use micro-usb
[22:10:00] <dz1111>	 brion: im working on something, just a matter of making it compatible with names for uploads to the server
[22:10:06] <Platonides>	 that wouldn't have been propietary!
[22:30:54] <YuviPanda>	 brion: question. When I upload to commons, commons does the required flipping based on exif, right?
[22:31:03] <brion>	 YuviPanda: right
[22:31:09] <YuviPanda>	 mmm sweet then
[22:31:13] <brion>	 \o/
[22:31:32] <brion>	 didn't you go to bed like 4 hours ago?
[22:33:48] <YuviPanda>	 brion: yeah. blame tfinc :P
[22:33:54] <brion>	 heh
[22:33:58] <YuviPanda>	 i'll actually go to bed now.
[22:34:02] <brion>	 you're not even supposed to work today are you? :)
[22:34:04] <YuviPanda>	 i'll fix that memory leak on Monday.
[22:34:06] <YuviPanda>	 brion: nope.
[22:34:09] <brion>	 haha
[22:34:27] <tfinc>	 brion: i wonder what kind of hours yuvi will work when he moves here
[22:34:35] <tfinc>	 perhaps we wont even see him in the office when he's living in SF
[22:34:42] <tfinc>	 for he'll always just be on IRC
[22:34:55] <brion>	 hehe
[22:35:05] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: that's something I've thought of too. I'd probably spend a fair amount of time working from Embarcedaro's benches.
[22:35:20] <YuviPanda>	 except for the fact that it'll be <cold>
[22:35:30] <tfinc>	 YuviPanda: the view is gorgeous. do it. you'll freeze of course
[22:35:57] <YuviPanda>	 Indeed, *I* will freeze, while normal people seem to get by just fine :P
[22:36:18] <YuviPanda>	 brion: figured out a nice way to make images 'pulse' while uploads are still in progress :)
[22:36:25] <brion>	 ooooh fancy
[22:36:27] <brion>	 eye candy++
[22:36:54] <YuviPanda>	 must make sure that I don't kill people's batteries, of course
[22:37:27] * YuviPanda  has been profiling heavily.

[22:39:29] <YuviPanda>	 alright, I'll peel off now. good night.
[22:39:35] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: do test the build brion has.
[22:39:44] <YuviPanda>	 https://mega.co.nz/#!S1okxTyL!B03zqzBCMt8kMDT9K4-p40FxUJtm15DnVEK6SEQ55Wk  to be more exact
[22:39:51] <tfinc>	 YuviPanda: will do after my phone is charged
[22:40:05] <YuviPanda>	 (there is a known memory leak in my contributions, makes it slow sometimes. Know the fix, will do monday)
[22:40:06] <YuviPanda>	 cya
[22:41:40] <brion>	 nighty night
[22:44:49] <wikipedia-github>	 [Commons-iOS] brion pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/Vj4-2g
[22:44:49] <wikipedia-github>	 Commons-iOS/master e2f9e62 Brion Vibber: Disable editable fields when viewing existing files
[23:33:23] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: JGonera; "Refactor api wrapper" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47183
[23:33:24] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: JGonera; "Make Cancel link in PhotoUploader work" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/47184