[00:16:18] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: JGonera; "Fix section-rendered callbacks" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51589
[00:16:18] <MaxSem>	 awjr, can you unassign https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.org/projects/mobile/cards/413 from me?
[00:16:18] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Alpha: Move dynamic section loading from beta to alpha" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51320
[00:16:18] <MaxSem>	 it's more JS than I anticipated
[00:16:18] <awjr>	 MaxSem: is someone else taking it over?
[00:16:18] <awjr>	 if not, just bump it back to 'ready for development'
[00:16:18] <jdlrobson>	 MaxSem: i can take a look
[00:16:18] <MaxSem>	 thanks
[00:16:18] <jdlrobson>	 i just got a window..
[00:16:19] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Disable photo upload menu item when unusuable" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51590
[00:16:19] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Stable: Make Upload dashboard available" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51591
[00:16:19] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jdlrobson; "Is going to need a rebase after https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/51320/ is merged (the donate imag..." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51591
[00:16:19] <jdlrobson>	 MaxSem: did you get anywhere with that story?
[00:16:19] <jgonera>	 awjr, so is there any place where the details of X-CS header are written down? is it only backend/cache config work or not?
[00:16:19] <MaxSem>	 jdlrobson, in principle the PHP changes are pretty simple, I could finalise and commit them
[00:16:19] <jdlrobson>	 MaxSem: that would be great
[00:16:19] <awjr>	 jgonera it was discussed a bit in the wikitech-l thread around mobile analytics
[00:16:20] <awjr>	 jgonera: it will just be backend work though
[00:16:20] <jgonera>	 awjr, so there's no official document or spec for that?
[00:16:20] <awjr>	 jgonera: correct
[00:16:20] <jgonera>	 ok, so this header is response header, not request, right?
[00:16:20] <awjr>	 jgonera: correct
[00:16:20] <jgonera>	 ok ;)
[00:16:20] <awjr>	 jgonera: i can make a note in the card about syncing up with the analytics team to ensure proper handling of the header
[00:16:20] <jgonera>	 ok, although if it doesn't require any frontend changes, I might take other story
[00:16:20] <awjr>	 jgonera: makes sense
[00:16:20] <awjr>	 jgonera: i was kinda planning on picking that up tomorrow if someoen else doesn't get to it first
[00:16:20] <jgonera>	 but someone should start it, Diederik asked me about our progress today
[00:16:20] <jgonera>	 oh ok
[00:16:22] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: JGonera; "(2 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51320
[00:16:25] <jgonera>	 munaf_, I forgot to update the camera icon on upload button, was it this one? https://www.dropbox.com/sh/nlxigq10fp2wu78/8Ih0fRl2PU/Mobile/Photo%20Uploads/Story%20295#f:icon-camera.png
[00:16:25] <munaf_>	 jgonera i'll check and make sure
[00:16:25] <jgonera>	 ok thanks
[00:16:26] <munaf_>	 jgonera that's the correct camera
[00:16:26] <munaf_>	 there's icon-camera and icon-empty-camera
[00:16:26] <jgonera>	 ok
[00:16:26] <jgonera>	 not the empty one I guess since it's red
[00:16:26] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: MaxSem; "WIP: Bug 44126 - don't request watch status dynamically" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51599
[00:16:26] <MaxSem>	 jdlrobson, ^^
[00:16:27] <jdlrobson>	 thanks MaxSem
[00:16:28] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Jdlrobson; "Thanks Max - I can run with this code. New patch coming.." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51599
[00:16:37] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Code cleanup: Rename module to watchstar" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51602
[00:16:37] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Code health: add prefix to toggleWatch" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51603
[00:16:37] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Bug 44126: Avoid API call to check watch status on pages" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51604
[00:16:37] <jdlrobson>	 MaxSem: ^ :D \o/
[00:16:37] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: JGonera; "Fix paths to .lessignore file" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51605
[00:16:37] <jgonera>	 jdlrobson, ^
[00:16:37] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jdlrobson; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51605
[00:16:38] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: JGonera; "Update camera icon for upload button" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51606
[00:16:38] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: MaxSem; "Protect scripts and tests with .htaccess" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51607
[00:16:41] <tfinc>	 awjr: Maryana : heads up that greg on the platform team is eager to explore 1 week deployment trains for MediaWiki
[00:16:41] <brion>	 \o/
[00:16:42] <tfinc>	 their eager to do them if they can limit the amount of out of band deployments
[00:16:42] <awjr>	 oolala
[00:16:42] <tfinc>	 Greg will be reaching out to discuss more
[00:16:42] <tfinc>	 but i'm giving you a heads up
[00:17:09] <tfinc>	 impact to us would be only emergency fix pushes
[00:17:18] <tfinc>	 weeklys would go to platform
[00:17:23] <tfinc>	 but greg wil have more info
[00:17:28] <tfinc>	 just a conversation right now
[00:18:10] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: JGonera; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51604
[00:18:10] <awjr>	 tfinc do you mean MF deployment would be a part of a weekly MW rollout?
[00:18:18] <MaxSem>	 I explained to him that currently we have to deploy ourselves due to testing
[00:18:28] <tfinc>	 awjr: correct. platform would limit as many out of band pushes as they can
[00:18:30] <MaxSem>	 I thought I made it very clear
[00:18:42] <tfinc>	 i told Greg to talk to you guys
[00:18:51] <tfinc>	 s/Greg/RobLA
[00:19:12] <awjr>	 ok cool
[00:19:27] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: JGonera; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51603
[00:21:34] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: JGonera; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51602
[00:27:23] <tfinc>	 jdlrobson: did we end up pushing a fix for near by ?
[00:28:01] <MaxSem>	 tfinc, no
[00:28:05] <tfinc>	 next tuesday ?
[00:28:17] <MaxSem>	 yes
[00:28:24] <tfinc>	 k
[00:36:18] <awjr>	 im calling it quits for the day - see you all tomorrow
[00:36:23] <tfinc>	 awjr: seeya
[00:36:24] <brion>	 see ya
[00:37:01] <MaxSem>	 nightie
[00:55:14] <wikipedia-github>	 [Commons-iOS] brion pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/PUf1hA
[00:55:14] <wikipedia-github>	 Commons-iOS/master bb76f53 Brion Vibber: Leave title/description blank and let them be written in with visible placeholders
[00:55:14] <wikipedia-github>	 Commons-iOS/master e8aef1d Brion Vibber: Bump version to 0.14
[00:55:22] <brion>	 ok making a beta build for ios
[01:01:11] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51580
[01:01:11] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Zfilipin; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51399
[01:09:52] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Alpha: Move dynamic section loading from beta to alpha" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51320
[01:12:06] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Code cleanup: Rename module to watchstar" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51602
[01:12:29] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jdlrobson; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51602
[01:19:08] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Bug 44126: Avoid API call to check watch status on pages" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51604
[01:19:23] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Jdlrobson; "meh" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51603
[01:19:33] <jdlrobson>	 jgonera: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51604
[01:28:55] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: JGonera; "Fix full screen navigation (when JS is disabled)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51620
[01:43:47] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Bug 44646: Standardise account creation and login forms" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51623
[01:46:32] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Regression: Fix full screen navigation (when JS is disabled)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51620
[01:46:36] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jdlrobson; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51620
[02:08:52] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mgrover; "changed the scripts to use Selenium_user instead of uploadwizardtest and removed the login success page now that we use Central Auth" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51625
[02:08:52] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Mgrover; "changed the scripts to use Selenium_user instead of uploadwizardtest and removed the login success page now that we use Central Auth" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51626
[02:10:15] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Story 396: Make Upload dashboard available" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51591
[02:10:22] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Story 396: Make Upload dashboard available on stable" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51591
[02:15:22] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Asset change: Update camera icon for upload button" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51606
[02:15:31] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: JGonera; "Reorganize navigation (#362)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51628
[02:15:35] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jdlrobson; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51606
[02:17:54] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Fix section-rendered callbacks" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51589
[02:18:26] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Regression: Fix section-rendered callbacks" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51589
[02:18:35] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jdlrobson; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51589
[02:20:21] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: JGonera; "Reorganize navigation (#362)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51628
[02:27:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Regression: Fix broken tests" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51630
[04:33:10] <Ktr101>	 hey, does anyone here approve app additions?
[04:33:21] <Ktr101>	 i finally got an average person to register
[04:33:25] <Ktr101>	 well, will
[15:44:25] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: MaxSem; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51630
[16:03:34] <YuviPanda>	 ragesoss: sorry, I sortof passed out yesterday night
[16:04:08] <ragesoss>	 welcome back!
[16:04:48] <YuviPanda>	 ragesoss: :)
[16:04:52] <YuviPanda>	 ori-l: saw your ping
[16:04:53] <YuviPanda>	 just now
[16:05:00] <YuviPanda>	 ragesoss: :) Accepting ogg takes about 2 lines of work
[16:05:02] <YuviPanda>	 so will do now
[16:06:03] <YuviPanda>	 ragesoss: can you link me to a smallish ogg file I can use to test?
[16:06:40] <ragesoss>	 audio?
[16:07:13] <YuviPanda>	 ragesoss: yes
[16:07:16] <YuviPanda>	 vorbis
[16:07:28] <YuviPanda>	 ragesoss: I was looking earlier for encoding apps that do not suck
[16:07:30] <YuviPanda>	 hard pressed to find any
[16:08:27] <ragesoss>	 http://db.tt/DMr908Tv
[16:09:05] <ragesoss>	 it's nonsense audio, but I extracted it and converted it from a video I took on my phone, using that ffmpeg app.
[16:35:20] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51206
[16:39:50] <wikipedia-github>	 [android-commons] yuvipanda pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/u2wtaA
[16:39:50] <wikipedia-github>	 android-commons/master 74c7928 YuviPanda: Rudimentary ogg uploading support...
[16:40:28] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Project Android-Commons (mobile) - Nightly builds build #113: SUCCESS in 37 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/Android-Commons%20(mobile)%20-%20Nightly%20builds/113/
[16:40:29] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 yuvipanda: Rudimentary ogg uploading support
[16:43:49] <YuviPanda>	 ragesoss: ^
[16:44:04] <ragesoss>	 :)
[16:44:45] <YuviPanda>	 ragesoss: http://integration.mediawiki.org/nightly/mobile/android-commons/android-commons_latest.apk will always point to master
[16:45:18] <ragesoss>	 yep
[16:45:40] <ragesoss>	 that's what I'm running now. well, not the actual latest one now. but from yesterday.
[16:46:29] <YuviPanda>	 ragesoss: ah, right
[16:46:35] <YuviPanda>	 ragesoss: I should really find a way to let that 'auto update'
[16:46:36] <YuviPanda>	 of sorts
[16:46:46] <YuviPanda>	 ragesoss: and this is me partying. I'm at an all night hackathon :D
[16:46:49] <YuviPanda>	 20 mbps download!
[16:47:38] <ragesoss>	 rawr!
[16:48:20] <YuviPanda>	 rawr indeed
[16:50:14] <ragesoss>	 yesterday I upgraded my internet. it's now allegedly 50 Mbps down, 25 up. It seems to be highly variable, though. I just got 58 down, 3.54 up. Earlier today, it was 30 down, 30 up.
[16:50:21] <YuviPanda>	 ragesoss: sigh
[16:50:25] <YuviPanda>	 mine is usually 2mbps
[16:50:27] <YuviPanda>	 when it works
[16:54:13] <ragesoss>	 ah, there we go. 58 down, 31 up. That's more like it. Even better than advertised.
[16:54:28] <ragesoss>	 RAWR
[18:00:09] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jdlrobson; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51628
[18:01:11] <brion>	 having some hangout difficulties
[18:01:51] <awjr>	 boo
[18:08:26] <brion>	 yay i'm in
[18:10:45] <brion>	 chrome had gotten logged in on my personal account, i had to log out and log back in on the company account. wheeee
[18:11:02] <awjr>	 brion do you use the multiple account sign in?
[18:11:26] <brion>	 didn't have much luck with that
[18:11:41] * MaxSem  just uses a separate browser for the WMF account

[18:11:52] <brion>	 yeah :P
[18:11:59] <awjr>	 brion it seems to have gotten a lot bettter, although i periodically still have weird issues
[18:20:17] <brion>	 managed to get my chrombook pixel to boot regular ubuntu in developer mode… touchpad doesn't work, but somebody's working got a kernel module for it. i'll play with it more after the drivers mature a bit :)
[18:20:21] <brion>	 back to code review!
[18:30:45] <jcmish>	 brion: ah we knew it wouldn't be easy
[18:30:54] <jcmish>	 but I'm sure it shall bend to your will  soon ;-)
[18:31:13] <brion>	 it will bow before the king of screens!
[18:42:22] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Brion VIBBER; "This fails in the following case in beta mode (dynamic loading):" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51604
[18:46:50] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Brion VIBBER; "Looks fine, but depends on a config change I can't +2 myself." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51292
[18:52:46] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Brion VIBBER; "Does what it says on the tin." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51297
[18:52:48] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Brion VIBBER; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51297
[19:00:44] <Maryana>	 http://martinvalasek.com/blog/pictures-from-a-developers-life
[19:00:47] <Maryana>	 happy friday!
[19:01:31] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Brion VIBBER; "Looks nice!" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51623
[19:01:33] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Brion VIBBER; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51623
[19:02:32] <brion>	 gotta reboot my router, it's being flaky
[19:02:32] <brion>	 brb
[19:13:18] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Brion VIBBER; "merged the config change, let's goooooo" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51292
[19:19:20] <MaxSem>	 brion, are you going to deploy https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/51291/ ?
[19:19:49] <brion>	 not sure how offhand, would have to look up the docs :)
[19:20:24] <MaxSem>	 brion, cause mediawiki-config changes should be merged only before the actual deployment
[19:20:49] <MaxSem>	 otherwise, next person doing changes has all the rights to revert you on sight
[19:21:02] <MaxSem>	 I'll deploy it
[19:21:05] <brion>	 ;_;
[19:21:07] <brion>	 \o/
[19:21:08] <brion>	 thanks
[19:21:12] <MaxSem>	 but be aware about this stuff;)
[19:21:21] <jcmish>	 MaxSem:  I don't see Nearby on my staging server can you point me in the right direction?
[19:21:24] <brion>	 i shall be more carefuller on the next one :D
[19:21:44] <jcmish>	 Maybe a missing config?
[19:21:51] <MaxSem>	 jcmish, staging.wmflabs.org?
[19:21:56] <jcmish>	 yessir
[19:22:10] <MaxSem>	 yes, needs a config change
[19:22:19] <MaxSem>	 on it
[19:22:25] <jcmish>	 thanks!
[19:25:04] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Brion VIBBER; "For some reason I can't get the Special:DonateImage page to fully work in stable on my test instance." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51591
[19:25:36] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jdlrobson; "mmm... yeh we run into the same issue in dynamic section mode for changing page and accessing the ti..." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51604
[19:28:17] <MaxSem>	 brion & jdlrobson, deployed
[19:28:23] <brion>	 tx
[19:29:34] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Disable photo upload menu item when unusuable" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51590
[19:29:58] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Brion VIBBER; "story 428: Log username for watch star and photo uploads" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51292
[19:30:32] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Brion VIBBER; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51292
[19:32:58] <MaxSem>	 jcmish, done
[19:35:05] <jcmish>	 thanks MaxSem
[19:35:32] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Brion VIBBER; "It works, but I'm not sure this is a good idea." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51590
[19:35:50] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jdlrobson; "Since" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51604
[19:35:50] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jdlrobson; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51604
[19:35:53] <jcmish>	 Maryana:  with the change to the left nav order where should Nearby show up?
[19:36:03] <jcmish>	 it's not in the card https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.org/projects/mobile/cards/362
[19:36:14] <brion>	 that reminds me, we're painfully short of room on the nav menu
[19:36:26] <jcmish>	 brion:  yup :D
[19:36:26] <brion>	 for the smallest screens in alpha mode we're full up
[19:36:38] <jcmish>	 especially on my phone :D
[19:36:42] <brion>	 :D
[19:37:02] <Maryana>	 since it's just in alpha for now, it's not a huge deal, but i imagine it should be grouped near random
[19:37:20] <jcmish>	 alrighty
[19:37:30] <jcmish>	 that's where it is right now but just thought I'd ask :D
[19:37:51] <jcmish>	 1. Home, 2. Random, 3.Nearby,4. Watchlist
[19:38:04] <Maryana>	 perfect :)
[19:43:13] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jdlrobson; "Shouldn't this be the decision of the user running the service? They may have their own .htaccess fi..." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51607
[19:45:49] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: MaxSem; "No, MW uses .htaccess to block everything that shouldn't be web-accessible, MF should do the same. A..." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51607
[19:46:20] <brion>	 MaxSem: why the -1? :)
[19:46:39] <MaxSem>	 CUZ I DISAGREE WITH JON
[19:46:42] <MaxSem>	 :P
[19:49:38] <brion>	 heh
[19:51:20] <Maryana>	 jcmish, brion: created a new card to deal with left nav grouping for when we push nearby to beta: https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.org/projects/mobile/cards/435
[19:51:22] <Maryana>	 :)
[19:51:30] <jcmish>	 \o/
[19:51:43] <Maryana>	 i agree it's getting a little crazy
[19:52:21] <munaf>	 guys, i have our solution for mobile editing. http://www.tiledtext.com/
[19:52:27] <munaf>	 (i may be kidding)
[19:52:42] <jcmish>	 munaf:  hahaha
[19:52:57] <Maryana>	 what it this i don't even
[19:53:25] <munaf>	 some kind of weird minority reporty thing
[19:53:36] <munaf>	 it makes cool noises when you use it
[19:54:55] <brion>	 man i want a 60" touchscreen hologram monitor
[19:55:09] <munaf>	 seems to be a method of navigating blocks of text by converting tokens to clickable/movable tiles at a desired level
[19:55:32] <munaf>	 and also coincidentally the least usable text editing experience i've seen in a while
[19:55:41] <brion>	 at first glance it looks like they've just reinvented section folding
[19:56:20] <brion>	 plus some cool effects for character zooming
[19:56:24] * munaf  creates story in Mingle to integrate Tiled Text.

[19:56:25] <brion>	 nice futuristic look :)
[19:57:37] <brion>	 oh that reminds me, i played a little bit with an android development IDE that runs on android :)
[19:57:51] <brion>	 seems horrid to type on, but it can compile and install an .apk, very impressive
[20:04:03] <tfinc>	 when you need to explain webkit http://paulirish.com/2013/webkit-for-developers/
[20:09:34] <tfinc>	 jdlrobson: jcmish : food ?
[20:33:00] <YuviPanda>	 hey Maryana
[20:35:02] <Maryana>	 heya yuvipanda
[20:35:31] <YuviPanda>	 Maryana: I asked about opinions on some copy
[20:35:37] <YuviPanda>	 yesterday?
[20:35:56] <YuviPanda>	 and then I passed out later on, so not sure if you responded :)
[20:36:06] <Maryana>	 blerg, i'm sorry - remind me again what about?
[20:36:17] <YuviPanda>	 one moment
[20:40:55] <wikipedia-github>	 [Commons-iOS] brion pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/iwjksA
[20:40:55] <wikipedia-github>	 Commons-iOS/master b010bb6 Brion Vibber: bug 45467 - Disable upload button on detail view when title/desc are empty...
[20:40:55] <wikipedia-github>	 Commons-iOS/master 62482b6 Brion Vibber: don't try to upload files with empty title and description
[20:41:43] <YuviPanda>	 Maryana: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45370
[20:42:04] <YuviPanda>	 can you check the messages for error reporting?
[20:42:04] <Maryana>	 ah, that's right. sorry, i remember looking at this, but not in detail
[20:42:14] <YuviPanda>	 and see if they are okayish?
[20:44:20] <Maryana>	 i would suggest shortening the throttled message
[20:44:27] <Maryana>	 everything else looks ok to me
[20:44:59] <YuviPanda>	 Maryana: suggestions?
[20:45:13] <YuviPanda>	 Maryana: and is the '-' usage correct?
[20:45:13] * Maryana  thinks

[20:45:22] <Maryana>	 sure, that's fine
[20:46:06] <Maryana>	 how about just "Too many unsuccessful attempts - please try again later"?
[20:46:18] <Maryana>	 that's still kinda long
[20:47:36] <YuviPanda>	 Maryana: okay
[20:49:37] <YuviPanda>	 Maryana: thoughts on making it shorter?
[20:49:39] <YuviPanda>	 and 'later'?
[20:50:02] <Maryana>	 still thinking. was actually trying to get the facebook app to fire an error to see how they do it :)
[20:50:24] <YuviPanda>	 hah
[20:51:02] <Maryana>	 i can't get it to err on me, but i know they use slightly whimsical language & an emoticon
[20:51:14] <Maryana>	 like "something appears to be wrong. try again later?"
[20:51:19] <YuviPanda>	 too vague no?
[20:51:45] <Maryana>	 yeah, but does the user really care that they reached some arbitrary throttle limit?
[20:52:05] <YuviPanda>	 yeah, because they should not try again immediately?
[20:52:28] <Maryana>	 well, at that point they would've tried again immediately a number of times
[20:52:41] <Maryana>	 and probably realize that's not working
[20:53:11] <YuviPanda>	 I've hit it unknowlingly before
[20:53:16] <YuviPanda>	 5-10 times too easy.
[20:53:52] <Maryana>	 really? hmm
[20:54:11] <YuviPanda>	 especially since we can not see our password
[20:54:14] <Maryana>	 i mean, i guess if you keep entering in wrong username/pw
[20:54:18] <Maryana>	 yeah
[20:55:21] <Maryana>	 ok. i just personally hate those messages that say "you've tried to do this too many times and screwed up. go away!"
[20:55:22] <Maryana>	 :)
[20:55:32] <Maryana>	 so that's why i prefer keeping it vague
[20:55:39] <Maryana>	 at least then you're not making the user feel like an idiot
[20:57:00] <brion>	 PEBCAK?
[20:57:27] <brion>	 ID ten T error?
[20:59:07] <Maryana>	 but anyway, it shouldn't be a very common thing for someone to get, since most people will stay logged into the app, i imagine. so no big deal
[21:05:03] <YuviPanda>	 Maryana: :P
[21:05:08] <YuviPanda>	 ok
[21:05:16] <YuviPanda>	 Maryana: so I'll just leave them as is
[21:05:19] <YuviPanda>	 brion: PC LOAD LETTER too
[21:05:26] <brion>	 :D
[21:05:48] <Maryana>	 just cut the "you have had" part and it's golden :)
[21:06:01] <Maryana>	 just start off with "too many..."
[21:06:12] <brion>	 you've had too many, i'm cutting you off
[21:06:18] <Maryana>	 hehehehe
[21:08:01] <brion>	 bahhh no debug output cause i started the program outside the debugger :P
[21:08:05] * brion  slaps xcode

[21:11:25] <wikipedia-github>	 [Commons-iOS] brion pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/6TFvOg
[21:11:25] <wikipedia-github>	 Commons-iOS/master 8dad5df Brion Vibber: bug 45369 - fix host/wiki in event logging
[21:15:40] <YuviPanda>	 Maryana: :) doing
[21:43:33] * brion  just typed PHP array syntax into a JSON file :P

[21:44:43] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "bug 45452: only show donate image button when token available" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51080
[21:47:19] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Zfilipin; "changed the scripts to use Selenium_user instead of uploadwizardtest and removed the login success page now that we use Central Auth" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51625
[21:47:34] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Zfilipin; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51625
[21:48:15] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Zfilipin; "changed the scripts to use Selenium_user instead of uploadwizardtest and removed the login success page now that we use Central Auth" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51626
[21:48:24] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Zfilipin; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51626
[21:52:48] <wikipedia-github>	 [Commons-iOS] brion pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/3Bt__A
[21:52:48] <wikipedia-github>	 Commons-iOS/master af8968a Brion Vibber: Fix logging (bug 45368) and bad error dialog for login fail
[21:58:14] <YuviPanda>	 brion: Just handled a Nexus 10
[21:58:19] <brion>	 \o/
[22:00:04] <brion>	 how you like it?
[22:02:25] <YuviPanda>	 brion: amazing!
[22:05:14] <YuviPanda>	 brion: it's so much thinner than the 7!
[22:05:40] <brion>	 it's a little better build quality, i like mine
[22:05:50] <brion>	 mostly use it for games and a little web surfing, plus app/web testing
[22:06:09] <YuviPanda>	 brion: I'd want to explore coding in that
[22:06:11] <brion>	 some games render at full resolution on the high-res screen, they're very nice :D
[22:06:12] <YuviPanda>	 with a keyboard perhaps
[22:06:37] <brion>	 YuviPanda: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aide.ui&hl=en
[22:09:45] <awjr>	 whoa developing android apps on an android device
[22:09:58] <YuviPanda>	 brion: :D
[22:10:09] <brion>	 droidception
[22:10:11] <YuviPanda>	 brion: it is too small on the n7 when I tried it
[22:13:26] <YuviPanda>	 brion: I'm at a hackathon, trying to find alternative ways of writing android apps that do not use... Java
[22:13:34] <YuviPanda>	 last hackathon was Scala / Ruboto
[22:13:36] <YuviPanda>	 (failure)
[22:13:39] <YuviPanda>	 this one was mirah
[22:13:40] <YuviPanda>	 still failing
[22:13:41] <YuviPanda>	 sigh
[22:15:52] <brion>	 you could use phone gap and javascript ;)
[22:16:04] <awjr>	 lol
[22:16:17] <YuviPanda>	 brion: I once spent about 7 months on it. Failed.
[22:16:18] <YuviPanda>	 :P
[22:16:22] <brion>	 haha
[22:16:41] <brion>	 actually if we could do a straight java-javascript bridge maybe it wouldn't be so bad
[22:16:42] * brion  wonders

[22:16:51] <brion>	 using the actual android apis....
[22:17:21] <YuviPanda>	 brion: well, true
[22:17:27] <YuviPanda>	 that's what these guys are trying
[22:17:32] <YuviPanda>	 not with the greatest of results so far
[22:18:14] <brion>	 ah :(
[22:20:33] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: awjrichards; "Bug 45378: Fix watchlist star jump" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51324
[22:21:45] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: awjrichards; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51324
[22:24:28] <rmoen>	 jdlrobson: coffee ?
[22:26:45] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: awjrichards; "LGTM" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51607
[22:41:41] <tfinc>	 brion: i haven't seen the draft of the blog post for monday. how is it coming along ?
[22:42:31] <brion>	 i thought it was monday after next? i've got it down for the 11th
[22:42:36] <brion>	 on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog/Calendar
[22:47:10] <tfinc>	 brion: oh. didn't think we were doing it the week after
[22:47:27] <tfinc>	 if were waiting that long (which is fine) then we likely shoudl just theme it for a store launch
[22:47:35] <tfinc>	 if it was next week then it would be a call for testers
[22:48:10] <jgonera>	 ori-l, what was the hook you suggested I could use for inject a CentralAuth <script>?
[22:48:17] <jgonera>	 injecting*
[22:50:44] <brion>	 ok
[22:50:53] <brion>	 your pick, if you want to run it earlier i'll write up the testers call
[22:50:58] <brion>	 or else write the store call
[22:54:44] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: JGonera; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51320
[23:13:14] <awjr>	 brion are you familiar with the X-CS header handling for Zero?
[23:13:33] <brion>	 awjr: i'm not 100% sure X-CS is used for, if anything
[23:13:43] <brion>	 but it's set by the varnish servers alongside X-Carrier
[23:13:55] <awjr>	 it's used for analytics of zero carriers - it doesnt get handled at all in Zero codebase, but it does in varnih
[23:14:01] <awjr>	 yah
[23:14:05] <brion>	 ah there we go
[23:14:14] <brion>	 that explains why i see no reference to it in the zero code :D
[23:14:17] <awjr>	 :)
[23:14:29] <brion>	 i am familiar with how it's set, just not how it's used
[23:14:31] <awjr>	 brion do you know if there's any particular reason why it's totally handled in varnish and not at all in the code?
[23:15:09] <awjr>	 (backstory - the X-CS header is turning into a generic analytics header, with key/value pairs appended to the header for various analytics purposes)
[23:15:46] <awjr>	 we're going to be using it for MobileFrontend and i'd like to generecize a handler in MW for updating the header value, but i dont want to screw anything up for zero
[23:16:03] <brion>	 i got no clue, no
[23:16:44] <awjr>	 okidoke thanks
[23:16:48] <tfinc>	 YuviPanda: how is my dashboard looking ?
[23:17:22] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: not working today (nor did I most of yesterday) college
[23:17:23] <YuviPanda>	 Monday.
[23:17:29] <tfinc>	 k
[23:17:46] <brion>	 awjr: I poked dfoy in case he knows anything about it
[23:17:53] <brion>	 but it might be lost in the mists of preilly
[23:17:59] <awjr>	 oh cool thanks brion
[23:18:05] <awjr>	 yeah :-/
[23:19:16] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: JGonera; "(2 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51287
[23:21:44] <wikipedia-github>	 [android-commons] yuvipanda pushed 1 new commit to master: http://git.io/xDek3w
[23:21:44] <wikipedia-github>	 android-commons/master 63177ec YuviPanda: Minor string resource fixups
[23:22:26] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 Project Android-Commons (mobile) - Nightly builds build #114: SUCCESS in 41 sec: https://integration.mediawiki.org/ci/job/Android-Commons%20(mobile)%20-%20Nightly%20builds/114/
[23:22:27] <mw-jenkinsbot>	 yuvipanda: Minor string resource fixups
[23:24:30] <jgonera>	 Maryana, is ori-l somewhere around there?
[23:24:37] <ori-l>	 hey
[23:24:51] <ori-l>	 um, so I looked at CentralAuth last night
[23:25:16] <ori-l>	 and it looks like the token generation and the HTML generation (<img> tags, etc.) are coupled together in the same method
[23:25:33] <ori-l>	 I think it would be pretty easy to separate them though
[23:26:04] <jgonera>	 but I just want to test what we discussed yesterday and see if it helps
[23:26:10] <jgonera>	 without touching CentralAuth itself for now
[23:27:09] <ori-l>	 ah, well on BeforePageDisplay, just grep the commons token URI from the HTML output
[23:27:53] <jgonera>	 ori-l, thanks
[23:27:57] <ori-l>	 so in MobileFrontend.php, $wgHooks[ 'BeforePageDisplay' ][] = 'MobileFrontendHooks::onBeforePageDisplay';
[23:28:13] <jgonera>	 I'm just wondering, if putting an image into a <script> won't mess up some browsers
[23:28:36] <ori-l>	 it'll mess up all browsers :) but it'll be a contained, invisible failure
[23:28:55] <jgonera>	 ori-l, yeah, I know, I was rather thinking about browsers crashing or something
[23:29:16] <jgonera>	 but I guess this could happen only on old ones where we don't support photo upload or login anyway
[23:29:30] <ori-l>	 i don't think it would cause it to crash
[23:29:50] <ori-l>	 the problem with doing this in a BeforePageDisplay hook is that you don't know if the request represents a successful authentication request
[23:30:16] <ori-l>	 so I think you actually want to also bind a handler for onUserLoginComplete
[23:30:23] <jgonera>	 hm
[23:30:29] <jgonera>	 ok, I'll check that
[23:30:45] <ori-l>	 so, function onUserLoginComplete() { self::$isAuthRequest = true; }
[23:31:14] <ori-l>	 and function onBeforePageDisplay() { if ( self::$isAuthRequest ) { grep html for commons URL and inject it as a script tag into head; } }
[23:32:02] <jgonera>	 yes, I figured that out ;)
[23:32:22] <jgonera>	 why self and not this though?
[23:32:36] <jgonera>	 oh ok
[23:32:39] <jgonera>	 they're all static
[23:33:22] <ori-l>	 but -- i ran this idea by superm401 yesterday and he pointed out that in your bug report you specifically mention instances in which you've seen the image from the target wiki load successfully but no authentication cookie was set
[23:33:38] <ori-l>	 if that's the case, then this idea kind of goes out the window, no?
[23:33:59] <brion>	 MaxSem: I need to push an update to Zero at some point -- https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/51805/ -- do you know if I can just go ahead with that or if I should wait until a deployment window?
[23:34:07] <brion>	 in which case i need to let dfoy know when it's ready to go :)
[23:34:25] <jgonera>	 true, but I still think that those things _might_ be unrelated, because I never made it fail on desktop using HTTPS and HTTPS is the only thing we use on mobile
[23:35:11] <ori-l>	 yeah, i think it's *a* problem even if not *the* problem
[23:35:12] <jgonera>	 basically, I'm willing to give any possible solution a chance, because right now success/error ratio of uploads because of this is 45/129
[23:36:06] <ori-l>	 oh!
[23:36:10] <ori-l>	 you could do one other thing.
[23:36:14] <ori-l>	 probably simpler, in fact.
[23:36:28] <jgonera>	 yes?
[23:36:49] <ori-l>	 so, our theory was that because DNS resolution is potentially slower and latency potentially greater on mobile devices, people might navigate away from the post-auth page before the image request completes
[23:36:58] <jgonera>	 right
[23:37:03] <ori-l>	 you can eliminate the first concern at least by adding a request for _anything_ from commons
[23:37:16] <jgonera>	 hm...
[23:37:22] <ori-l>	 for example, a tiny bit of CSS in <head>
[23:37:49] <jgonera>	 well, I'd rather not add random CSS to mobile ;) but I'll find something neutral
[23:37:55] <ori-l>	 that way commons is already in the dns cache
[23:38:00] <jgonera>	 right
[23:38:25] <brion>	 hm
[23:38:32] <brion>	 we're hiding the images from view now right?
[23:38:34] <MaxSem>	 brion, in principle it's not recommended to deploy on Fridays, we traditionally don't have anything in our schedule on this day. however, if there's a problem that needs fixing I guess it's OK. mind it's a friday afternoon
[23:38:41] <jgonera>	 although
[23:39:01] <brion>	 MaxSem: if we should wait no biggie, just need to be able to schedule tests for after
[23:39:09] <jgonera>	 ori-l, Commons image is not the first of the images to load and probably browsers only do a limited number of requests per second
[23:39:10] <brion>	 should i plan on monday or tuesday?
[23:39:40] <jgonera>	 so we can't be sure if images of other projects won't prevent the Commons one from loading
[23:39:57] <jgonera>	 (because they also will load slowly for the same reason)
[23:40:27] <MaxSem>	 brion, it's too late for me so I won't deploy it today, but if you feel confident yourself...:)
[23:40:30] <jgonera>	 s/requests per second/requests at the same time/
[23:41:01] <brion>	 nah i'll wait :D
[23:41:10] <ori-l>	 ok, so just to test out this theory i would go back to the original idea of grepping the html output for the commons image URI and injecting it to the head as a synchronous CSS or <script> request
[23:41:14] <brion>	 it's almost happy hour, so nobody to help me fix it if it breaks ;)
[23:42:03] <brion>	 jgonera: consider showing a spinner; wait on the 'load' or 'error' events on all the centralauth images, then hide the spinner when they're all done
[23:42:30] <ori-l>	 mmm, yes. that's nicer.
[23:42:38] <jgonera>	 brion, that was my first and simplest idea, but Jon said "it will ruin user experience"
[23:42:45] <brion>	 heh
[23:43:01] <brion>	 i *really* wish i'd pushed that URL reorg scheme a few years back
[23:43:08] <brion>	 we could have been all on one domain and this would be much simpler :)
[23:43:10] <jgonera>	 if you guys help me convince him that we should do that, at least temporarily, to see if it fixes the problem, then I definitely prefer that to nasty hacks
[23:43:22] <jgonera>	 heh
[23:43:23] <brion>	 i would try the spinner and see if it works
[23:43:26] <brion>	 we got metrics :)
[23:43:49] <MaxSem>	 brion, you posted it to wmf1 instead of wmf10
[23:43:56] <jgonera>	 ok, I'll prepare a commit, and you convince jdlrobson  on gerrit when he -1's it ;)
[23:44:00] <brion>	 lol
[23:44:02] <ori-l>	 MaxSem: he's in a nostalgic mood
[23:44:06] <jgonera>	 hehe
[23:44:07] <brion>	 how'd i miss that :D
[23:44:14] <brion>	 THIS IS WHY WE HAVE CODE REVIEW
[23:45:16] <ori-l>	 A+++++++ committer; would merge again
[23:45:32] <jdlrobson>	 que?
[23:45:33] <brion>	 gitbay
[23:46:10] * ori-l  applies to YCombinator

[23:47:03] * MayBMalariaPanda  applies YCombinator to ori-l

[23:48:14] <brion>	 there we go. 1.21wmf10 looks much more accurate
[23:50:36] <ori-l>	 MayBMalariaPanda: speaking of fixed points, i pinged you the other day because i noticed f?nky enc?ding in filenames in the android app upload data
[23:50:51] <ori-l>	 wondering if it's my fault or yours
[23:50:59] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 ori-l: oh EL was also funky?
[23:51:01] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 that... is weird.
[23:51:27] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 ori-l: it messed up on commons
[23:51:29] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 oooh
[23:51:30] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 right
[23:51:32] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 ori-l: makes sense.
[23:51:37] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 it is my underlying library that is messed up :)
[23:51:38] <ori-l>	 it does?
[23:51:40] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 and is not doing encoding
[23:51:41] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 properl
[23:51:42] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 y
[23:51:50] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 I was going to investigate which part of the stack it was
[23:52:43] <ori-l>	 np, let me know if you run into issues
[23:53:06] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 ori-l: yeah, let me fix that
[23:53:44] <ori-l>	 by the way, are you seriously ill?
[23:53:51] <ori-l>	 re: the nick
[23:54:03] <ori-l>	 if so go rest!
[23:54:08] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 ori-l: I will be
[23:54:12] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 ori-l: I'm at this hackathon
[23:54:22] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 ori-l:  have killed a hundred mosquitoes so far
[23:54:27] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 but another hundred or so have bit me
[23:54:33] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 and there are about 50 people in this room
[23:54:34] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 so
[23:54:45] <ori-l>	 ProbablyMalariaPanda
[23:54:56] <jdlrobson>	 MaxSem: does the BeforePageDisplay hook get run on mobile - as it seems to be…
[23:54:56] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 I fondly remember the time when I spent ~3 months in a hospital and nobody could figure out what was wrong
[23:55:02] <jdlrobson>	 … which makes me wonder why we have BeforePageDisplayMobile
[23:55:03] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 but the best guess was Malaria + Dengue
[23:55:04] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 ori-l: too long
[23:55:10] <jdlrobson>	 ori-l: has malaria?
[23:55:22] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 ori-l: so MayB instead. Even Maybe was too long
[23:55:24] <jdlrobson>	 MayBMalariaPanda: malaria boss?
[23:55:31] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 jdlrobson: maybe.
[23:55:41] <jdlrobson>	 you need the rmoen spray
[23:55:45] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 jdlrobson: in a hackathon with a ton of mosqitoes
[23:55:54] <jdlrobson>	 garlic helps apparently
[23:55:55] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 jdlrobson: yeah, it's like I was fully immune but only when around you / rmoen
[23:55:55] <ori-l>	 can they code well?
[23:56:21] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 ori-l: they are dying fast.
[23:56:22] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 so
[23:56:23] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 maybe not
[23:56:51] <MaxSem>	 jdlrobson, it is
[23:56:53] <rmoen>	 MayBMalariaPanda: are you at risk ?
[23:57:13] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 rmoen: yes. I've probably had more mosqitoes bite me in the last 8 hours than you guys did all trip
[23:57:18] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 all your life even
[23:57:53] <rmoen>	 MayBMalariaPanda: Dude you need a sacrificial lamb (aka jon robson) to walk around with you.
[23:58:06] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 rmoen: yup
[23:58:11] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 i seem to be immune to these things
[23:58:14] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 but only when around you / jdlrobson
[23:58:17] <jdlrobson>	 MaxSem: k why do we have two then?!
[23:58:30] <MaxSem>	 jdlrobson, two what?
[23:58:32] <rmoen>	 MayBMalariaPanda: Where are you ?
[23:58:44] <jdlrobson>	 beforePageDisplay and beforePageDisplayMobile
[23:58:54] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 rmoen: http://yuvi.in/where.html
[23:58:56] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 says 'Chennai
[23:58:57] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 '
[23:58:58] <MayBMalariaPanda>	 and is accurate