[00:02:12] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: awjrichards; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/54140
[00:02:27] <yurik>	 hi, could someone with gerrit magic rights grant dr0ptp4kt +2 on ZeroRatedMobileAccess extension?
[00:05:26] <awjr>	 yurik: sumana can probably help you out too - she is sumanah on IRC (she's not on right now)
[00:09:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Story 400: Deal with first time user upload" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55159
[00:12:11] <Maryana>	 jdlrobson: what voodoo do you have to do to an inline comment in gerrit for it to actually save?
[00:12:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Maryana; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55159
[00:15:13] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jdlrobson; "(8 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55159
[00:15:57] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Ensure userlogin.js checks for wgMFLoginHandshakeUrl before handshaking" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56346
[00:16:02] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jdlrobson; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56346
[00:17:46] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: awjrichards; "Max, if you can get this reconciled against current master, it's good to merge!" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48209
[00:22:06] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Add lead photo upload CTA (#343)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53475
[00:23:16] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jdlrobson; "I made slight modification to the test to use QUnit and declare expected number of tests inline with..." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 1 C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53475
[00:24:55] <Krinkle>	 jdlrobson: I see strictEqual and throws etc. are still used globally? The idea of context-driven QUnit (QUnit.test( function ( assert ) {} ) is to actually use the context provided assert object and not the globals anyway
[00:25:23] <jdlrobson>	 Krinkle: RESOLVED LATER
[00:25:25] <jdlrobson>	 :)
[00:25:28] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Krinkle; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56322
[00:25:36] <Krinkle>	 jdlrobson: Then why change it to QUnit.test at all?
[00:25:38] <jdlrobson>	 I just want the tests to pass for the time being :)
[00:25:45] <jdlrobson>	 I was changing the lines anyway..
[00:25:48] <Krinkle>	 ok
[00:25:58] <jdlrobson>	 Don't worry that's on my TODO :)
[00:32:46] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Rename #mw-mf-search to #searchInput" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56324
[00:35:07] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: awjrichards; "WIP: Avoid SkinMobile-specific functions and properties" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48209
[00:35:35] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: awjrichards; "Max, I took a stab at the rebase - if this looks OK, feel free to merge." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/48209
[00:52:28] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Rename #mw-mf-search to #searchInput" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56324
[00:52:28] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Rename jsEnabled class to client-js to be consistent with desktop" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56350
[00:52:29] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Make the universe explode by making a desktop AND mobile skin called Minerva" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56351
[02:16:24] <tfinc>	 yurik: what's your labs account name ?
[02:21:09] <tfinc>	 208.80.153.250
[03:09:03] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Make the universe explode by making a desktop AND mobile skin called Minerva" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56351
[03:18:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Regression: Stop low res main menu icon from 404ing due to move" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56358
[03:18:30] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Make the universe explode by making a desktop AND mobile skin called Minerva" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56351
[03:18:43] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Make the universe explode by making a desktop AND mobile skin called Minerva" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56351
[05:16:22] <Reedy>	 https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46612 Message key '(Filepage|Common|Handheld|Print|Monobook).css' does not appear to be a full key
[05:16:46] <Reedy>	 Not sure if mobile may be "at fault" here (ie making these calls, not necesserily breaking them)
[06:36:48] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Make the universe explode by making a desktop AND mobile skin called Minerva" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56351
[06:43:05] <ori-l>	 if it makes the universe explode it should be called Milliways rather than Minerva
[16:43:13] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Make the universe explode by making a desktop AND mobile skin called Minerva" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56351
[16:45:52] <MaxSem>	 hey jdlrobson - are you alright?
[16:46:17] <jdlrobson>	 yeh just been feeling a bit stuffy (cold-y) and i've been suffering from insomnia - not the best mix
[16:46:33] <jdlrobson>	 thanks for asking :)
[16:47:07] <jdlrobson>	 i'm fixing your bug as we speak https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41519 - out of interest can we count number of requests per day to access the watch token? Would be go to show before and after to ops :)
[16:47:25] <jdlrobson>	 (i know Tomasz wanted us to be able to show our improvements)
[16:50:35] <MaxSem>	 mmm
[16:51:03] <MaxSem>	 unfortunately, it's not being profiled so I don't have the stats
[16:51:22] <MaxSem>	 but you can just count the number of beta pageviews;)
[17:02:42] <jcmish>	 Maryana: anything for me today?
[17:03:04] <Maryana>	 all quiet on the western front :)
[17:03:18] <Maryana>	 we have an uploads blog post finally! http://blog.wikimedia.org/
[17:03:18] <ConfusedPanda>	 the russians must be busy
[17:03:26] * ConfusedPanda  waves at Maryana

[17:03:40] <ConfusedPanda>	 Maryana: still haven't heard anything from Shankar, and we've a 11pm scheduled today
[17:03:48] <Maryana>	 hmm...
[17:05:25] <jcmish>	 heheeh Maryana love
[17:05:28] <jcmish>	 the quiet
[17:05:39] <jcmish>	 i'm working on automation tests so it's nice to keep going
[17:06:10] <Maryana>	 whenever you talk about automation tests, i always imagine that you're building a giant robot
[17:06:21] <jcmish>	 I AM!
[17:06:22] <jcmish>	 haha
[17:06:24] <Maryana>	 hehe
[17:06:27] <ConfusedPanda>	 with lots of hands and lots of fingers and lots of phones in those hands
[17:06:32] <Maryana>	 exactly
[17:06:41] <Maryana>	 testbot
[17:07:41] <jcmish>	 I'm building my on Rosie
[17:07:42] <jcmish>	 :D
[17:07:45] <ConfusedPanda>	 Maryana: i'm texting him
[17:07:53] <Maryana>	 sweet, thanks
[17:08:05] <jcmish>	 *on = own
[17:08:16] <Maryana>	 confusedpanda: if he doesn't have any new work to review, let's push it back to next week
[17:08:43] * ConfusedPanda  checks his commons contribs

[17:08:53] <ConfusedPanda>	 Maryana: nope, nothing new
[17:09:07] <ConfusedPanda>	 Maryana: i've texted him, but feel free to move the event.
[17:09:14] <Maryana>	 k
[17:09:35] <Maryana>	 you're still working on the add cats functionality, right?
[17:10:01] <ConfusedPanda>	 Maryana: yup
[17:10:15] <ConfusedPanda>	 Maryana: I'm using the latest mock as a guideline. Should be able to push out this Monday.
[17:10:33] <Maryana>	 sweet!
[17:10:37] <ConfusedPanda>	 Maryana: he texted back. still headache is bad.
[17:10:37] <ConfusedPanda>	 move it
[17:10:42] <Maryana>	 will do
[17:10:54] <ConfusedPanda>	 thanks! :)
[17:10:59] <ConfusedPanda>	 so a night of no meetings for me! yay!
[17:12:04] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Bug 41519: Only request token when clicking the star" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56411
[17:13:26] <Maryana>	 confusedpanda – enjoy :)
[17:13:32] <ConfusedPanda>	 :)
[17:15:28] <jdlrobson>	 MaxSem: can a special page edit properties on the template associated with its skin?
[17:15:55] <MaxSem>	 for Satan's sake, don't
[17:16:13] <Maryana>	 confusedpanda, is the plan still to roll out the iOS app on the 25th?
[17:16:32] <ConfusedPanda>	 Maryana: I'd ask brion, I'm unsure.
[17:16:47] <Maryana>	 oh wait, it can't be b/c it's already the 28th
[17:16:49] <Maryana>	 heh
[17:16:58] <Maryana>	 man, this week has been so weird
[17:17:01] <ConfusedPanda>	 pfft, you haven't seen his Time Machine yet :P
[17:17:01] <MaxSem>	 jdlrobson, special pages don't need to know about skins' internals
[17:17:02] <Maryana>	 i'm all thrown off
[17:17:11] <jdlrobson>	 MaxSem: i thought as much .. mmm
[17:17:21] <ConfusedPanda>	 Maryana: because meetings and deployments?
[17:18:20] <Maryana>	 yeah..
[17:19:14] <ConfusedPanda>	 Maryana: :) I'm told weekends of alcohol and sleep fix those :)
[17:20:10] <ConfusedPanda>	 Maryana: are you seeing the error rates for mobile web photo uploads dropping?
[17:20:22] <ConfusedPanda>	 Maryana: and do you have any idea when the report-card will have watchlist / login stuff added?
[17:23:46] <Maryana>	 it's a little early to tell, but i do see some new uploaders
[17:25:16] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: MaxSem; "WIP: [Card 446] Don't vary page HTML on X-Device" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55226
[17:26:12] <MaxSem>	 awjr, how does it look?^^^
[17:26:27] <awjr>	 looking MaxSem
[17:27:06] <MaxSem>	 if it's roughly sane, I'm going to show it to the ops
[17:33:54] <awjr>	 MaxSem: some minor quibbles - im still reviewing but will publish soon. it indeed does look roughly sane
[17:34:23] <MaxSem>	 okay, going to ops
[17:35:06] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: awjrichards; "(3 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55226
[17:36:28] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: awjrichards; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55226
[17:39:27] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: MaxSem; "(4 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55226
[17:44:41] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: awjrichards; "(5 comments)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55226
[17:44:47] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: JGonera; "I'm still not able to run it (because of the burnt laptop, should have a new working dev env later t..." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56322
[17:46:46] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: awjrichards; "(1 comment)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55226
[17:51:43] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: awjrichards; "https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45452 has been resolved. is there anything else holdi..." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51591
[17:54:36] <awjr>	 Maryana: when you have the chance, can you take a look at things ready for signoff here? https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.org/projects/mobile/cards?favorite_id=622&view=Previous+iteration+story+wall
[18:10:44] <Maryana>	 awjr, all clear!
[18:10:49] <awjr>	 \o/
[18:10:52] <awjr>	 thanks Maryana :D
[18:13:59] <dfoy>	 dr0ptp4kt, yurik: https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special%3ATranslate&taction=translate&group=ext-zeroratedmobileaccess&language=de&limit=100&task=view
[18:35:10] <jdlrobson>	 Maryana: are you happy for me to promote the lead photo cta to stable?
[18:35:16] <Maryana>	 yes!
[18:35:19] <Maryana>	 and the uploads dashboard
[18:35:39] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jdlrobson; "jdlrobson: Maryana: are you happy for me to promote the lead photo cta to stable?" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53475
[18:35:40] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jdlrobson; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/53475
[18:35:51] <Maryana>	 wheeee
[18:37:33] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: MaxSem; "WIP: [Card 446] Don't vary page HTML on X-Device" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55226
[18:39:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Provide greater expect-ations (fix breaking tests)" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56322
[18:40:11] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: awjrichards; "Please see my comments from patchset 2." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) C: -1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/55226
[18:44:42] <jdlrobson>	 Maryana: the order of mingle is still messed up
[18:44:53] <jdlrobson>	 surely story 400 should be merged before 396
[18:45:12] * Maryana  looks

[18:45:41] <Maryana>	 ideally, yes. though it shouldn't be a blocker for just getting uploads out to stable
[18:45:44] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Story 396: Make Upload dashboard available on stable" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51591
[18:45:49] <Maryana>	 wheeeeee
[18:45:52] <Maryana>	 :)
[18:45:58] <Maryana>	 moar uploads
[18:46:16] <jdlrobson>	 well i guess it all depends how quickly juliusz gets a new machine up and running
[18:47:23] <Maryana>	 :(
[18:47:25] <Maryana>	 poor guy
[18:56:44] <MaxSem>	 jdlrobson, I have a strong impression that iphone2 and iphone device types should be merged, what do you think?
[19:03:42] <jdlrobson>	 MaxSem: yes
[19:03:51] <jdlrobson>	 MaxSem: i would like that very much
[19:03:57] <MaxSem>	 jdlrobson, so I can JFDI?
[19:04:03] <jdlrobson>	 hell yeah
[19:04:11] <MaxSem>	 on it
[19:04:16] <jdlrobson>	 MaxSem: have you seen https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/56351/ ?
[19:04:49] <MaxSem>	 I've seen it, but haven't time to play with it yet
[19:04:53] <jdlrobson>	 k k
[19:07:12] <jdlrobson>	 ConfusedPanda: STOP CHANGING YOUR NAME
[19:07:14] <jdlrobson>	 ConfusedPanda: http://worrydream.com/media/panda.jpg
[19:07:30] <ConfusedPanda>	 oh
[19:07:30] <ConfusedPanda>	 wow
[19:07:40] <jdlrobson>	 ConfusedPanda should be YufusedPanda at least
[19:07:50] <UnchangedName>	 :D
[19:07:55] <UnchangedName>	 Yufused panda makes no sense!
[19:07:58] <jdlrobson>	 it does
[19:08:09] <jdlrobson>	 You need to keep the Yu for autocomplete purposes :P
[19:08:16] <jdlrobson>	 I just had to see who was in the room to find you :P
[19:08:25] <YuviPanda>	 :P
[19:08:37] <YuviPanda|Confus>	 too long
[19:09:06] <YuviPanda>	 jdlrobson: where did you get that image from?
[19:09:44] <jdlrobson>	 worrydream.com - apparently he's doing the tech chat today
[19:09:46] <jdlrobson>	 you should listen to him
[19:10:00] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: MaxSem; "Off with your head iphone2" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56459
[19:10:26] <YuviPanda>	 jdlrobson: it seems to have a moustache
[19:12:02] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Jdlrobson; "\o/" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56459
[19:12:03] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Jdlrobson; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56459
[19:26:56] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Zfilipin; "Added option to run mobile frontend tests at en.m.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56505
[19:42:30] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Raimond Spekking; "Revert "Localisation updates from http://translatewiki.net."" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56508
[19:45:39] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Raimond Spekking; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56508
[20:00:29] <Maryana>	 hmm… this is weird: http://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/Rogers_nanain
[20:00:30] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: awjrichards; "\o/" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 2 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51591
[20:00:31] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: awjrichards; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/51591
[20:00:33] <Maryana>	 jdlrobson ^
[20:00:43] <Maryana>	 somebody uploaded the same image 3 times..?
[20:03:16] <jdlrobson>	 Maryana: it is a great image
[20:03:26] <jdlrobson>	 different images...
[20:03:36] <Maryana>	 heh, yeah. but how did they keep seeing the upload button after the 1st time?
[20:03:58] <jdlrobson>	 well 2 images are the same
[20:04:04] <jdlrobson>	 i dunno.. maybe gaming the system ;-)
[20:04:06] <awjr>	 would tapping back after upload do it?
[20:04:10] <jdlrobson>	 3 tabs open..
[20:04:20] <jdlrobson>	 awjr: probably yes
[20:06:53] <jdlrobson>	 \o/ French edit
[20:07:33] <Maryana>	 i haven't seen another contrib history like this, but i imagine it might become a problem with more people successfully uploading (a good problem to have, heh)
[20:08:24] <jdlrobson>	 \o/https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dr-_Shahwar_Husain-_2013-03-28_17-26.JPG
[20:08:27] <jdlrobson>	 selffffy
[20:08:44] <Maryana>	 haha
[20:08:45] <jdlrobson>	 btw.. This photo was uploaded via Mobile Web ().
[20:08:48] <jdlrobson>	 what's with the () ?
[20:09:03] <awjr>	 it's an artifact of the template
[20:09:09] <awjr>	 the apps put a value inside the ()
[20:09:10] <Maryana>	 the new file titles look good
[20:09:12] <awjr>	 i think it's app version
[20:09:23] <Maryana>	 yeah, we should ax that if we can
[20:09:25] <jdlrobson>	 we should put a version in of some sort
[20:09:31] <jdlrobson>	 maybe current MFE commit?
[20:09:37] <awjr>	 that would be cool
[20:09:38] <Maryana>	 hm, not a bad idea
[20:10:00] <Maryana>	 good thing we're talking about next iteration stories today :)
[20:10:05] <awjr>	 :p
[20:10:19] <jdlrobson>	 i suppose we can work that out from the date though..
[20:10:33] <jdlrobson>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:This_is_the_image_i_can_provide_to_describe_this_feature_more_clearly_to_others-_2013-03-28_9-50.jpg < consider it describing more clearly
[20:10:56] <Maryana>	 lolwut
[20:11:26] <awjr>	 @_@
[20:11:39] <jdlrobson>	 he changes the description too bless him https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AThis_is_the_image_i_can_provide_to_describe_this_feature_more_clearly_to_others-_2013-03-28_9-50.jpg&diff=93425375&oldid=93425332
[20:11:57] <Maryana>	 aww
[20:12:04] <Maryana>	 very nice
[20:17:39] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Rename #mw-mf-search to #searchInput" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56324
[20:17:40] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Rename jsEnabled class to client-js to be consistent with desktop" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56350
[20:17:40] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Make the universe explode by making a desktop AND mobile skin called Minerva" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56351
[20:17:40] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Bring watchlist css/html markup closer to desktop" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56515
[21:02:57] <awjr>	 yurik: join us in r31!
[21:06:49] <awjr>	 yurik: http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/zero-mf-sync-up
[21:21:26] <brion>	 awjr: should i be in that? i'm still in the talks upstairs, lost track of the time
[21:25:28] <awjr>	 brion it's ok - we're really just brainstorming stuff about untangling Zero/MobileFrontend and talking about performance issues
[21:25:39] <brion>	 spiff. ping me if you need anything :D
[21:25:43] <awjr>	 cool thanks!
[21:27:11] <ori-l>	 Hey, heads up: I'm syncing a change to NavigationTiming that enables it on the stable mobile site. (It has been enabled for the past week or so on beta and alpha). Jon approved the change.
[21:28:49] <ori-l>	 any reason I shouldn't?
[21:29:32] <Maryana>	 go for it, ori-l
[21:32:45] <ori-l>	 thanks Maryana
[21:33:09] <Maryana>	 :)
[21:53:57] <ori-l>	 deployed and reporting stats
[21:57:03] <YuviPanda>	 ori-l: <3
[22:02:54] <jgonera>	 awjr, am I needed for the story prep and prioritization? I haven't set up the camera and mic yet
[22:03:09] <awjr>	 jgonera: you're totally optional
[22:03:26] <jgonera>	 ok, will set it up for tomorrow's hangouts later then
[23:13:58] <awjr>	 MaxSem: still awake?
[23:14:12] <MaxSem>	 yup
[23:14:23] <awjr>	 re: I'm thinking of renaming it completely, to something like VarianceMode. Thoughts?
[23:14:36] <awjr>	 were you thinking like… $wgMFVarianceMode = 'resources'?
[23:14:49] <MaxSem>	 yeah. but it should remain bool!
[23:15:09] <awjr>	 if it's bool then we need a more descriptive var name, i think
[23:15:43] <jgonera>	 brion, not long ago I had this problem with infoboxes not displaying as infoboxes, do you remember what was the issue? I recall it was something small and quick
[23:15:45] <MaxSem>	 $wgMFVaryResourcesOtherwiseVaryHtml
[23:15:51] <MaxSem>	 hehe
[23:15:54] <awjr>	 hehehe
[23:17:06] <brion>	 hmmm
[23:17:10] <brion>	 jgonera: i don't remember that one
[23:17:33] <awjr>	 you know, MaxSem, would it be weird to support varying both resources AND html?
[23:17:56] <MaxSem>	 that would kill the idea
[23:18:04] <awjr>	 well not necessarily
[23:18:05] <MaxSem>	 ...of performance
[23:18:06] <jgonera>	 brion, it was something about Wikipedias custom CSS or something
[23:18:13] <awjr>	 it would allow us to test resource variance without disabling html variance, which might be safer
[23:18:26] <awjr>	 and then disable html variance once we're sure resource variance is working right
[23:18:38] <brion>	 jgonera: oh on your test instance?
[23:18:40] <brion>	 yeah
[23:18:42] <jgonera>	 yes
[23:18:49] <brion>	 copy the MediaWiki:Common.css page from en wikipedia
[23:18:56] <awjr>	 MaxSem: but perhaps that's overly cautious
[23:18:56] <jgonera>	 thanks!
[23:18:59] <brion>	 it should include the global info box styles
[23:19:05] <Maryana>	 hmm. so i'm seeing some upload errors. they're coming from ipod & desktop, though
[23:19:41] <MaxSem>	 awjr, I don't see how it can help
[23:19:42] <jgonera>	 Maryana, yes, I saw the charts, unfortunately I don't have stat1 access from this computer, what do the messages say?
[23:19:46] <jgonera>	 (I mean errors)
[23:19:52] <Maryana>	 "Anonymous token."
[23:20:08] <MaxSem>	 if it doesn't work, we flip one switch and it behaves like before
[23:20:09] <jgonera>	 hm
[23:20:24] <awjr>	 MaxSem: yeah, a revert would be enough
[23:20:44] <jgonera>	 this is probably a message set by jdlrobson  in our code, but I guess it means that the person was not logged into Commons...
[23:20:49] <jdlrobson>	 MaxSem: I'm going to take a look at the viewport now in opera that cool with you?
[23:21:04] <MaxSem>	 yeah
[23:21:04] <jdlrobson>	 Maryana: jgonera this is people still not logged into commons as I said earlier :)
[23:21:21] <Maryana>	 old cookies
[23:21:24] <jdlrobson>	 the only way to fix these users is if we force people to logout and login again
[23:21:25] <Maryana>	 old, gross, stale cookies
[23:21:26] <jgonera>	 do you know what might be the reason?
[23:21:27] <jgonera>	 oh
[23:21:29] <jgonera>	 maybe
[23:21:32] <jgonera>	 ;)
[23:21:35] <jdlrobson>	 Anonymous token is exactly that - they are not logged in
[23:21:41] <jdlrobson>	 that's the only time the error is triggered
[23:21:57] <jgonera>	 ok, let's hope this will fade away
[23:22:07] <jgonera>	 how long do we keep people logged in then?
[23:22:10] <jdlrobson>	 it will when the cookies expire
[23:22:15] <jgonera>	 because there's no "remember me" checkbox
[23:22:29] <Maryana>	 http://www.webpronews.com/wikipedia-now-lets-you-upload-photos-from-mobile-2013-03
[23:22:34] <Maryana>	 :)
[23:25:26] <awjr>	 i have to run to an offiste mtg - anyone need anything from me before i go?
[23:25:33] <awjr>	 jdlrobson, Maryana, jgonera, MaxSem ^?
[23:25:49] <MaxSem>	 no
[23:25:54] <jgonera>	 no
[23:26:04] <Maryana>	 mustache
[23:26:06] <Maryana>	 i mean, no
[23:26:11] <Maryana>	 :)
[23:26:15] <awjr>	 =8{D
[23:26:53] <Maryana>	 that looks… mildly off-color
[23:27:02] <awjr>	 lol
[23:27:04] <awjr>	 it was innocent, i swear
[23:27:13] <awjr>	 and was supposed to be a dude wearing glasses with a mustache
[23:27:26] <awjr>	 not… what you think it is
[23:27:26] <Maryana>	 hehe
[23:27:43] <awjr>	 ok gotta run - i prolly wont be back on IRC til later, so if you guys need me for anything call my cell
[23:30:02] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Always allow viewport zooming" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56548
[23:43:33] <jdlrobson>	 jgonera:  what kind of device are you irc'ing from now? :)
[23:45:27] <jgonera>	 jdlrobson, it's already a normal desktop computer ;)
[23:45:36] <jdlrobson>	 \o/
[23:45:45] <jdlrobson>	 have you got a vagrant up and running?
[23:46:25] <jgonera>	 I don't have enough CPU, RAM and HDD on this machine to try vagrant ;) I just installed everything myself
[23:46:41] <jgonera>	 it's a Athlon XP 2600+, 1GB RAM ;)
[23:47:41] <MaxSem>	 for some time, it's possible to develop w/o virtualisation
[23:48:38] <jgonera>	 why would I want to use virtualisation for something else than vagrant? fortunately I don't have to care for IE
[23:48:50] <YuviPanda>	 ragesoss: !
[23:48:52] <YuviPanda>	 ragesoss: https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Category_oicker.png
[23:48:54] <YuviPanda>	 ragesoss: the category picker!
[23:49:59] <ragesoss>	 :D
[23:50:07] <MaxSem>	 jgonera, can you review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56548 ?
[23:50:23] <YuviPanda>	 ragesoss: looks usable?
[23:50:35] <jgonera>	 I will in a moment, I just need to reboot
[23:51:02] <YuviPanda>	 ragesoss: as you type filtering, will be (eventually) heavily cached
[23:51:29] <ragesoss>	 yeah! looks lovely! then you delete and type new stuff, but checked cats remain?
[23:51:33] <YuviPanda>	 ragesoss: plus, eventually will also have an initial view populated solely by the categories you have previously used!
[23:51:35] <YuviPanda>	 ragesoss: exactly
[23:51:50] <ragesoss>	 super duper
[23:52:23] <YuviPanda>	 :)
[23:59:21] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: JGonera; "Looks OK, but do we still need operamobile.css?" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) C: 1;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/56548