[00:00:45] awjr: yes but none no work is being created for those components right now [00:00:51] yurik, no major things. Adam is working to fix up the 'Read the article in another language" warning but that's the only urgent issue right now [00:02:13] ok tfinc; more to point then, is 'commons app/general' the only thing you want auto-posting to trello? [00:02:38] ahh [00:02:43] thats what your talking about [00:03:00] heh yeah, sorry should have given you some more context :p [00:03:16] anything that goes to Commons App should go into trello [00:03:26] regardless of which component its in [00:03:38] ok [00:04:50] awjr: i am happy to see my screenshot was useful [00:04:56] :) [00:05:37] interestingly, i had to take a screenshot of your screenshot in order to actually use it, since i couldn't figure out an easier way to save the image from the presentation in google drive [00:26:50] mhurd: im packing up [00:50:08] New review: awjrichards; "Heard from MaxSem that this is now complete; LGTM but wanted to give anyone else the chance to take ..." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 2 C: 1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/61942 [01:33:18] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Story 580: New page menu" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65840 [01:33:18] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Tweak add topic page for talk" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65862 [01:33:19] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Story 485: Promote talk overlay to beta" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65863 [02:08:44] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Bug 48728: Scale thumbnails on Commons" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65866 [02:09:11] Change merged: Jdlrobson; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65866 [12:51:27] New patchset: Yurik; "Logic revision, config "wikipedia" setting" [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65970 [14:01:18] New patchset: Yurik; "Updated maintenance scripts to parse zerologs & ip stuff" [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65983 [14:27:47] New patchset: Yurik; "Logic revision, config "wikipedia" setting" [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65970 [14:29:40] New patchset: Yurik; "Base logic on config instead of X-CS presence" [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65970 [14:44:57] New patchset: Zfilipin; "Upgraded Ruby to 2.0.0-p195" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65993 [15:20:01] New review: Cmcmahon; "maintenance" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65993 [15:20:01] Change merged: Cmcmahon; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65993 [16:29:19] New patchset: Dr0ptp4kt; "Rewrite links in the Read in Another Language section." [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66010 [16:52:44] New patchset: MaxSem; "Story 580: New page menu" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65840 [16:54:10] New patchset: Yurik; "Rewrite links in the Read in Another Language section." [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66010 [16:55:57] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Story 495: Add about and disclaimer links to menu" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66013 [16:58:31] New review: Dr0ptp4kt; "Collaboratively code reviewed on Google Hangout. Works on apibeta." [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65970 [16:58:37] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65970 [16:59:00] argh im having webcam problems :( [16:59:08] im going to reboot [17:02:28] New patchset: Yurik; "Rewrite links in the Read in Another Language section." [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66010 [17:02:41] awjr_away: where are you at? [17:03:20] awjr: where waiting for you in the standup [17:04:11] jcmish: standup! [17:05:58] Change merged: Yurik; [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66010 [17:19:27] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Move zero banner to Zero extension" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65135 [17:19:31] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Use the hook Luke." [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/64608 [17:29:22] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Cleanup: Kill unused getPageArrayFromApiResponse" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66017 [17:29:40] Change merged: Jdlrobson; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66017 [17:34:23] tfinc, jdlrobson: can you guys do me a huge favor? i need a new lead photo for the blog post ASAP - the quickest/most compelling thing i can think of is to have a well-captioned photo of you two standing in front of the standup-rig [17:35:15] (unless you can think of something better) [17:35:21] New patchset: Yurik; "Merge fix" [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66018 [17:35:30] awjr: why can't you just upload the same image to our wordpress instance ? [17:35:46] isn't it still a copyvio? [17:35:50] Change merged: Yurik; [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66018 [17:35:58] why would it be ? [17:36:30] well it still violates copyright, it would just be out of shouting distance of commons [17:36:52] awjr: whats the license on our wordpress instance ? [17:37:24] i dont know but i dont see how that would make a difference; the image itself is technically a copyright violation [17:37:35] pfft. use fair-use, Luke [17:38:06] awjr: crop it? [17:38:33] not quite the same but eliminates the copyright parts [17:39:09] there's a 'google+' wordmark kinda in the middle of the image [17:39:14] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Google_Hangout_-_screenshot.png [17:39:49] New review: MaxSem; "I'm seeing problems on FF/Ubuntu: http://i44.tinypic.com/2u4u1wh.png" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65840 [17:39:53] i dont see how to crop it without making it crappy; plus the context the image would be in in the blog post would make it clear that it's a google hangout [17:40:39] then have it uploaded to wordpress is okay, imho [17:40:41] fair use [17:41:27] oh i see [17:41:36] i'll check with the blog guys and see if that would be OK [17:41:42] ok [17:51:35] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Code cleanup: Remove unused homepage-loaded event." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66021 [17:52:13] Change merged: Jdlrobson; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66021 [17:53:53] damn, apparently can't upload photos to the blog since ops disabled file uploads for security reasons :( [17:55:30] tfinc, jdlrobson any other ideas? if you can help out with an image that would be awesome [17:55:39] which image awjr ? [17:56:03] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Google_Hangout_-_screenshot.png < this one? [17:56:12] jdlrobson: i was proposing earlier that we get a photo of you and tfinc standing in front of the standup rig (since i have to remove the google hangout screenshot due to copyvio) [17:56:36] yeh.. i guess a photo of us during a standup would make sense.. [17:56:44] or during the planning meeting today? [17:56:51] jdlrobson: i need it asap [17:57:15] is it copyvio if the hangout is visible in the background on a screen? [17:57:26] crikey i don't know [17:57:27] probably [17:57:31] erg that's sucky [17:57:47] how are you suppose to show video chat without the remote participants?! :-S [17:57:56] would a profile shot work of you guys standing in front of the screen, but the contents of the screen are not visible? [17:58:05] and just provide a good caption [17:58:13] can you not blur the current photo? [17:58:54] or just cut out all our photos in the existing one and arrange them differently? [17:58:57] there are so many obviously google-hangout elements in that photo; and not being a lawyer… i dont know that i can/can't get away with [17:59:04] jdlrobson: they are all copyvios [18:01:08] http://jonrobson.me.uk/teammobile.png im going to see if i can just upload them somewhere completely different since i cant upload them directly to the blog and argue fair use [18:01:26] with the wikipedia logo in the middle? [18:01:32] jdlrobson: that would work [18:01:43] ok give me a bit longer [18:01:47] thanks a lot :) [18:01:50] can we upload it to commons? [18:03:33] awjr: think it is ok [18:04:28] http://jonrobson.me.uk/teammobile.png < not sure if this will work [18:04:37] lol [18:04:53] jdlrobson: not to be picky… but can we shrink the glboe? [18:04:55] *globe [18:05:02] sure [18:05:20] i think that will be fine [18:05:44] i really appreciate your help jdlrobson [18:06:44] refresh [18:06:56] i think that's great dude :D [18:07:07] jdlrobson: would you mind uploading it to commons? [18:07:17] sure [18:07:35] i'll let matt know; im sure he'll be relieved. [18:08:27] mmm what should the filename be [18:08:43] team mobile 2012 [18:08:46] or something [18:10:05] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_mobile_web_team_(2012)_2013-05-29_11-09.png [18:10:15] you are my hero jdlrobson [18:11:02] omg preilly [18:14:33] hehe [18:16:26] omg [18:16:41] jdlrobson: if you have a minute can you replace the wikipedia logo with the WMF logo? [18:18:03] surehttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/81/Wikimedia-logo.svg < this one [18:18:04] ? [18:18:57] yah jdlrobson -= http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia-logo.svg [18:19:22] mr roth also points out the wikipedia logo you used is the old one [18:19:49] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logo_of_Wikipedia [18:21:51] erg [18:21:59] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Wikimedia_mobile_team_of_2012-_2013-05-29_11-21.png < any good? [18:22:12] beautiful, jdlrobson [18:23:33] i think that's good enough, hopefully mroth thinks so too; thanks for making that happen jdlrobson [18:49:07] New patchset: Yurik; "Remove legacy 'sites' zero config params" [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66027 [18:54:03] New patchset: Yurik; "Sort headers when saving to debug log" [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66028 [19:01:16] jdlrobson: did you create a bug to replace this card https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.org/projects/mobile/cards/790? [19:01:32] * jdlrobson looks [19:01:34] i dont see one; but i also think it makes sense to keep it a story [19:01:51] since afaik it's new work as opposed to something that was done incorrectly [19:02:22] jdlrobson: same for https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.org/projects/mobile/cards/796 [19:02:22] awjr: don't think so [19:02:33] https://mingle.corp.wikimedia.org/projects/mobile/cards/796 is fixed [19:02:50] awjr: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48758 [19:02:56] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48758 = #796 [19:03:03] ahha [19:35:21] New review: Yurik; "self merging maint scripts" [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65983 [19:35:22] Change merged: Yurik; [mediawiki/extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65983 [20:02:12] dfoy, is this IP list correct? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Zero:410-01 [20:03:09] jdlrobson: estimation/review meeting [20:03:51] no [20:03:57] yurik: no, its from a placeholder [20:04:15] dfoy, lets delete it then - i almost added it to varnish [20:10:03] yurik: I do not have edit rights to http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Zero:410-01 [20:10:40] dfoy, you should. Make sure you are logged in [20:11:26] yurik, I am logged in to meta, user name Dfoy (WMF) [20:11:49] dfoy, do you even get an "edit" tab? [20:12:48] yurik, dfoy: "Dfoy" had rights, but "Dfoy (WMF)" did not [20:12:55] yurik, no edit tab [20:12:57] yurik, dfoy, i just granted Dfoy (WMF) rights [20:13:09] yurik, dr0ptp4kt, thanks [20:13:11] dr0ptp4kt, cool, thx :) [20:13:18] you were quicker :) [20:13:48] New patchset: MaxSem; "Add ?useformat=mobile to privacy policy link in the footer" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66039 [20:33:09] yurik: can you join the hangout? [20:33:43] dfoy, joining... [21:14:57] New review: Jdlrobson; "Top right should indeed be empty." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65840 [21:39:56] jdlrobson: awjr: what's contributing to these failed uploads http://mobile-reportcard.wmflabs.org/graphs/error-uploads ? [21:43:16] good question; im not sure. i beleive we do log what the errors are but im not sure where to dig that up - jdlrobson or juliusz would know [21:44:46] actually, im sure it can be dug up on the stats box but i do not have access [21:45:56] let me start a thread about it [21:49:12] jdlrobson: where would you like me to help on your presentation ? [21:49:26] MaxSem: when you did the deployment yesterday, did you run into any problems on tin or did the issues brought up in the 'Deploying from tin is somewhat broken' thread get resolved? [21:49:53] nope [21:50:17] nope = no problems? [21:52:35] MaxSem: ? [21:52:48] yep, no problems [21:54:42] ok cool thanks :) [22:08:51] tfinc, back [22:09:08] dr0ptp4kt: did you want me to contact google because were not seeing .zero purged fast enough or do you want me to contact them so that we never get them indexed in the future ? [22:10:46] tfinc, the former. [22:11:57] mhurd: do you have the mockups of the proposed new hamburger for the Commons app ? [22:14:18] tfinc, my thought is that *after* the crawl and re-canonicalization of links, *then* we can put in the no-index stuff. by doing re-canonicalization now we stop users from ending up at the wrong place. then we can let the no-index stuff happen later. [22:21:25] tfinc: new hamburger… hmm… where did i put hambugers [22:22:50] tfinc: not finding... [22:23:12] mhurd: i wonder if she just had it on her machine [22:23:26] tfinc: that may be [22:24:15] tfinc: there's hamburger on the image attached to https://trello.com/card/ios-implement-getting-started-text/519a5940b8eb98591c000adf/36 [22:25:08] k [22:31:23] New patchset: MaxSem; "Profiling" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66049 [22:32:34] New review: MaxSem; "Trivial" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master); V: 2 C: 2; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66049 [22:32:49] Change merged: jenkins-bot; [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66049 [22:42:16] yurik, dr0ptp4kt, about the proxy question, does it really make sense to ban/track users who are sharing an IP pool of the telecom partner? [22:43:56] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Alpha: Lazy load pages using History.js from search and page content" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/62412 [22:43:57] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Don't lazy load sections on the first load" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65134 [22:43:57] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Add renderPage function" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66051 [22:49:40] dfoy, yurik: is the question whether we can add just the proxy IP addresses, and not add all of the IPs behind that proxy, to Varnish? i think the main risk is that if we're solely adding the proxy IP addresses, and not the non-private IPs behind that proxy, one rogue IP could force us to block the proxy IP, disenfranchising a bunch of users. do we know if the IPs behind the proxy are non-routable IPs? the carrier can be advised that without [22:49:41] trustworthy X-Forwarded-For headers we may be forced to block access entirely if there is article abuse. [22:50:36] dfoy, yurik: from what i've seen in the abuse filtering and such, blocking tends to be on IP, but is also possible on other attributes of requests (e.g., header signatures). [23:00:39] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Add renderPage function" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66051 [23:00:39] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Editor (beta): Refresh the page after an edit" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66053 [23:02:19] New review: Jdlrobson; "This feels icky.. I'd prefer us to setup the mobile subdomain redirect for wikimedia.org like Brion ..." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/66039 [23:23:31] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Device type rewrite" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/61942 [23:26:02] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Device type rewrite" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/61942 [23:28:11] New review: Jdlrobson; "I added a few test cases. Some passed and some failed... should probably address these before mergin..." [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) C: -1; - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/61942 [23:40:27] New patchset: Jdlrobson; "Story 580: New page menu" [mediawiki/extensions/MobileFrontend] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/65840