[00:02:25] jdlrobson, so what kind of tests do you want to see for https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/74667 ? [00:03:12] set and get opt in group - for all cases e.g. when 2 cookies set, 1 cookie set, 1 cookie set to a bad value [00:05:42] to test it properly, a setup with several subdomains is needed [00:54:43] [Commons-iOS] montehurd closed pull request #102: Made app start fresh - avoids pre-update memory cruft issues. (master...startFresh) http://git.io/I-gxAg [00:56:41] [Commons-iOS] montehurd opened pull request #103: Pic of day updates (master...picOfDayUpdates) http://git.io/dPK10A [04:42:32] (Abandoned) Jdlrobson: Beginning some CSS clean-up [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/74801 (owner: Kaldari) [04:46:44] (CR) Jdlrobson: "Pcc do you have any interest in pursuing this patch? Please let us know either way :)" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/74922 (owner: Pcc) [04:47:23] (Abandoned) Jdlrobson: Show article until a search has been performed [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/73351 (owner: Jdlrobson) [15:39:53] Hey MaxSem wanna go over the logs right quick? [15:40:05] sure [15:40:07] 1 sec [15:40:29] k [16:02:11] jcmish, try now [16:10:17] k will do MaxSem [16:10:52] mgrover@bastion1:~$ ssh mgrover@deployment-bastion [16:10:53] If you are having access problems, please see: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Access#Accessing_public_and_private_instances [16:10:53] Permission denied (publickey). [16:20:53] jcmish: did you ssh to bastion (the first bastion) with the '-A' argument to forward your key? (sorry if that's obnoxious) [16:21:19] ha it's not obnoxious :D [16:21:25] and nope I don't think I did let me do that [16:22:16] that worked chrismcmahon and MaxSem so we're good [16:22:28] schweet [16:52:14] yurik, roan needs our deployment window. i told him go for it, as we can't be deploying anything today anyway. [16:52:40] dr0ptp4kt, yep, no need for it [17:12:02] aharoni: google announced a new version of android today, and their Changelog contains a lot of mentions of i18n [17:12:21] wee. linky? [17:13:03] aharoni: https://developer.android.com/about/versions/jelly-bean.html [17:13:09] aharoni: also mentions RTL / bidi a lot [17:13:13] no specific mention of that language bug tho [17:16:49] jdlrobson: ping? [17:16:57] hey YuviPanda [17:17:13] jdlrobson: is the estimation process for the mobile web documented somewhere? [17:17:17] need to steal it for apps [17:17:22] "the estimation process" ? [17:17:32] how you assign estimates numbers to cards? [17:17:37] *estimated [17:17:44] jdlrobson, is there any download limit for files I upload to Dropbox? I mean if X users download it will it stop working or something? [17:17:50] probably not - just follow scrum best practices and tweak [17:18:09] jdlrobson: i have no idea - ask vibha she uses it all the time - i'd guess not though.. [17:18:11] jdlrobson: tomasz mentioned something about 'fibonacci numbers'? [17:18:23] yep that's what we do - up to 13 [17:18:39] those are just numbers with no units, right? [17:26:54] YuviPanda: YUP [17:27:03] jdlrobson: okay, thanks! [17:30:35] Maryana: re: me translating to Indian languages, I know about 0.25 of one, and 0 of everything else. Definitely not enough to make readable sentences :( [17:30:47] heh, no worries - i'll poke vibha [17:31:20] YuviPanda, you don't write in Tamil? [17:31:29] yeah, patrick and tfinc are convinced I'm from somewhere in south tennessee [17:31:38] YuviPanda: it says DRM :( [17:31:43] MaxSem: I can read / write by writing character by character [17:32:15] MaxSem: I can talk and understand find though. [17:32:38] MaxSem: at one of the hackathons, I was asked to write my own name in Tamil. I forgot one of the characters that sounded like 'r' and just wrote an english R by instinct. [17:32:41] so... no, I can't really [17:32:55] yay agile estimation :) [17:33:24] chrismcmahon: apps is going to start using that from this week :) [17:33:41] YuviPanda: it also has "Accented English". should be usefulish for people testing for Vietnam, Azerbaijan, and other countries with wacky versions of Latin. [17:33:45] aharoni: yeah, yeah yeah. It's just an optional module, though. [17:33:54] aharoni: oooh, nice. [17:34:30] aharoni: any updates on that bug? [17:39:04] jgonera: limn? [17:40:05] Maryana: did you want to work on talk today or tomorrow ? (i fly friday) [17:40:24] let's try for today [17:40:37] Maryana: YuviPanda is a disappointing Indian when he comes to languages. All the indians in India thought he was American. [17:40:50] ;-) [17:40:53] indeed, I got asked to show ID several time to prove it :P [17:41:55] https://twitter.com/rakugojon/status/360092458031398912 [17:44:14] err…. http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/wikipedia-wants-you-were-a-startup-in-stealth-mode-says-jimmy-wales-as-he-plans-to-open-data-to-all-8728357.html "The mobile interface will also be getting an overhaul to allow better editing on the move, with future plans to better integrate the GPS data that often accompanies Wikipedia articles" future plans? [17:45:18] jdlrobson, I will be in the office by 12, can we do limn when I get there? [17:45:22] jdlrobson: link me [17:45:24] http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/wikipedia-wants-you-were-a-startup-in-stealth-mode-says-jimmy-wales-as-he-plans-to-open-data-to-all-8728357.html < tfinc [17:45:29] jdlrobson: What does the 'cloaked' class mean? [17:46:14] kaldari, I was wondering the same thing ;) it's hiding the file input and making it look like a button [17:46:25] ah [17:47:09] kaldari: yeh it's badly named… basically file inputs are impossible to style [17:47:27] i wanted a generic way of doing it as we do it in 3 places now - open to ideas [17:47:28] yeah, I'm familiar from UploadWizard :) [17:47:52] UploadWizard is all smoke and mirrors [17:48:10] to say the least, yeah :) [17:48:17] $j, $j everywhere! :) [17:48:39] ah those were the days [17:48:52] kaldari: there's a patch on gerrit to change them all to $ :) [17:49:06] nice [17:55:08] jgonera, editing works on windows phone, right? [17:55:19] just making sure i'm not lying on the village pump.. [17:58:35] Maryana, it definitely should but can you just check one more time just in case? ;) [17:58:51] Windows Phone 8 for 100%, Windows Phone 7.5 (the HTC) should too [18:00:18] (PS1) Dr0ptp4kt: WIP: PhantomJS automation tests for Wikipedia Zero. [extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75665 [18:00:43] ok :) [18:00:44] (CR) Dr0ptp4kt: [C: -2] "This is a WIP." [extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75665 (owner: Dr0ptp4kt) [18:01:35] kaldari: Hey, hey. It's got some trap doors too. [18:01:44] where's brion? [18:02:04] I read that somebody got Miracast working on the Nexus 7. [18:04:14] woooo i'm back on irc [18:04:39] looking at https://github.com/wikimedia/Commons-iOS/pull/103 [18:05:31] brion: yay! [18:05:36] brion: i'm going to get rid of ActionBarSherlock :) [18:05:44] brion: new support library (out today!) supports actionbar out of the box [18:05:46] YuviPanda: new support library includes action bar or? [18:05:47] \o/ [18:05:49] brion: yes [18:05:50] awesome [18:06:10] can't for the life of me imagine why they didn't include that to begin with [18:06:33] brion: also new 'renderscript' support coming soon that's backwards compatible. Means hardware accelerated custom image manipulations tuff [18:06:34] *stuff [18:06:42] yay [18:06:44] so we can go blurring things if we want :) [18:06:48] haha [18:07:04] mhurd: oh the background on the settings page is sweet :D [18:08:12] (CR) Yurik: [C: 2] WIP: PhantomJS automation tests for Wikipedia Zero. [extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75665 (owner: Dr0ptp4kt) [18:08:23] brion: glad u like! had some fun w core image filters [18:08:30] :D [18:09:21] new login/pass boxes are pretty sweet too. it's the little things that make it :) [18:09:55] brion: it adds up! :) [18:11:14] [Commons-iOS] brion closed pull request #103: Pic of day updates (master...picOfDayUpdates) http://git.io/dPK10A [18:11:51] brion: woohoo! [18:12:06] (Merged) jenkins-bot: WIP: PhantomJS automation tests for Wikipedia Zero. [extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75665 (owner: Dr0ptp4kt) [18:12:44] maxsem, are you up for posting a note on the ruwiki forum about mobile editing? [18:13:02] that place scares me.. it's the only village pump i know where you top-post instead of bottom-posting [18:13:11] have we published the blog post already? [18:13:19] (PS8) Kaldari: Story 921: Adding editing tutorial [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/74309 [18:13:23] no, we'll do that tomorrow [18:13:39] i figured it would be good to give editing communities advanced notice [18:13:53] well, I officially left them [18:14:01] The editing tutorial change is ready for re-review: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/74309/ [18:14:10] Had some nasty merge conflicts [18:14:11] * MaxSem ponders an anon note [18:15:21] (CR) jenkins-bot: [V: -1] Story 921: Adding editing tutorial [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/74309 (owner: Kaldari) [18:16:52] (PS9) Kaldari: Story 921: Adding editing tutorial [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/74309 [18:19:09] brion: I read that somebody got Miracast working on Nexus 7: send *and* receive. [18:19:18] \o/ [18:19:49] i've tried it on the nexus 4, it's pretty spiffy. not clear yet whether the new model will support it without … modification [18:20:16] brion, can you confirm that your Windows Phone Wikipedia app is using a "NativeHost" user agent string (see Browser statistics for mobile on mobile-tech/mobile-l)? [18:20:35] jgonera: windows 8, no windows phone [18:20:36] ragesoss: saw the new 'ChromeCast' thing? [18:20:37] anybody here sign up for an Ubuntu Edge? [18:20:44] YuviPanda: no? [18:21:00] brion, my bad. Is it doing that though? [18:21:16] sounds right :) [18:21:17] ragesoss: Android 4.3 released, and google released the 'ChromeCast' dongle. Push from any phone (Android / iOS) to your TV, and also push any chrome tab to your TV [18:21:21] lemme check quick [18:21:58] ragesoss: works via a small dongle ($35!) that has a HDMI plug out. very similar to your normal Android dongles :) [18:22:29] hey guys and gals, what about https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/75154 / https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/75155/ ? [18:22:53] ooh, that looks pretty neat. [18:23:04] ragesoss: indeed :) [18:23:07] jgonera: should be something with 'MSAppHost' in it if i am reading the right docs [18:23:34] hm, so there must be something else on Windows/Windows Phone that's sending this [18:24:11] might be one of the third-party apps yeah [18:24:21] on windows phone likely [18:26:54] brion: actually, I'm going to wait a bit before moving. Works well for us, and I guess campaigns is more important [18:26:59] * YuviPanda puts away excited branch for now [18:27:19] whee [18:27:38] ragesoss: oh man i have to look that up. [18:28:08] brion: look what up? [18:28:15] http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge [18:28:37] yeah. Faith vetoed it for me. :( [18:28:56] "The Ubuntu Edge will dual-boot both the Ubuntu phone OS and Android, and convert into a fully integrated Ubuntu desktop PC." [18:28:59] sapphire screen! [18:29:03] oooooooh [18:29:05] 3 hour battery life? :) [18:29:09] the future, it's here. [18:29:26] brion: trivial merge? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/75670/ [18:29:30] YuviPanda: it's got like nuclear batteries, or somesuch. [18:29:40] brion: also, if you merge it here, it auto closes them on github ;) [18:31:04] (CR) Jdlrobson: [C: -1] "Talked a little with Maryana and Ryan - we should keep this consistent with photo uploads screen. The font in this one is bigger (apparent" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/74309 (owner: Kaldari) [18:31:47] * jgonera got the package, yay! going to the office [18:32:06] YuviPanda: testing first :) [18:32:10] brion: hehe, okay :) [18:32:35] brion: I've shifted to a slightly saner sleep cycle, and will be off in under an hour [18:32:52] YuviPanda: brion : mobile app retrospective https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/calendar/dGZpbmNAd2lraW1lZGlhLm9yZw.90905uv04rg59vblf8btct6o94 [18:33:12] oh, damn. Thursday 12AM is on wed night [18:33:14] tfinc: moment [18:33:25] moment [18:38:30] (CR) Aaron Schulz: "(3 comments)" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75155 (owner: MaxSem) [18:39:40] (CR) MaxSem: "(1 comment)" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75155 (owner: MaxSem) [18:45:05] (CR) MaxSem: "(1 comment)" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75155 (owner: MaxSem) [18:45:45] (PS2) MaxSem: Fix CentralAuth logins [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75155 [18:49:32] brion: want to send the email to the design list? :D [18:50:01] send me an email reminder and i'll write one up later :) [18:50:29] brion: ok [18:50:37] brion: mind if I write it up and send it out? [18:50:47] go for it [18:54:14] brion: actually no, I don't think *I* should do that. can you? :) I'll drop you an email [18:54:21] yeah ok :D [18:54:35] (CR) Aaron Schulz: [C: 1] Fix CentralAuth logins [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75155 (owner: MaxSem) [18:55:34] brion: email'd [18:55:38] tx [18:56:13] brion: email today! :) [18:56:20] :) [18:56:56] (CR) Jdlrobson: [C: 2] Fix CentralAuth logins [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75155 (owner: MaxSem) [18:57:15] MaxSem: just merged based on Aaron's vote of confidence [18:57:18] (Merged) jenkins-bot: Fix CentralAuth logins [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75155 (owner: MaxSem) [18:57:21] i've told him i'll buy him beer.. [18:57:25] cool!:) [18:57:26] does that mean we're good to go? [18:57:44] prolly [18:57:50] ^ jcmish just so you know [18:58:36] (PS10) Kaldari: Story 921: Adding editing tutorial [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/74309 [18:59:46] (Abandoned) Jdlrobson: Bug 51550: Always set padding right [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/74395 (owner: Jdlrobson) [19:00:43] beer? [19:00:43] :D [19:03:05] (PS2) MaxSem: Simplify opt-in cookies [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/74667 [19:03:24] YuviPanda: is it ok that my commit appears twice? https://git.wikimedia.org/log/apps%2Fandroid%2Ftranslate.git [19:03:43] orsa: it's fine, it's a merge commit [19:04:13] then every commit should be followed by merge commit? [19:05:54] orsa: depends. ignore it for now, really :) [19:06:15] orsa: if you 'git pull -r origin master' before pushing, those won't appear [19:06:30] allright! thanks :) [19:06:51] orsa: :) [19:11:19] violetto: hey may! is vibha upstairs? [19:15:14] [Commons-iOS] montehurd opened pull request #104: Hide settings debug switch on release builds. (master...hideDebugSwitch) http://git.io/LvbUlA [19:18:24] yeah she is! [19:21:07] [Commons-iOS] montehurd opened pull request #105: Strange console "NSConcreteValue" warning fixed. (master...consoleWarning) http://git.io/BDzd-w [19:27:01] [Commons-iOS] brion closed pull request #105: Strange console "NSConcreteValue" warning fixed. (master...consoleWarning) http://git.io/BDzd-w [19:43:32] alright, deployment is nigh [19:43:53] dr0ptp4kt & yurik, do you need Zero deployed? [19:58:43] \o\ |o| /o/ [19:58:51] haha [19:59:00] oh man nice dancing jdlrobson :D [20:00:34] it's, :00, /me begins [20:00:48] sweet :D [20:05:30] all right, jcmish, jdlrobson, kaldari, Maryana - we're live on testwiki, please test:) [20:05:35] woo woo [20:05:35] k will do [20:06:10] :D-< [20:06:10] :D|-< [20:06:10] :D/-< [20:09:15] did the GFDL patch not get merged, maxsem? [20:09:43] Maryana, i18n hasn't been updated [20:09:49] ah [20:11:44] bad news: the CentralAuth fix can be easily deployed only to wmf11 [20:11:49] BUG: watching article with space in name shows toast with weird underscore in title in message [20:12:21] hmm.. maxsem, which projects aren't on wmf11? [20:12:29] is it worth waiting for wmf11 to be pushed to the rest of wikis tomorrow? [20:12:36] http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=wikiversions.dat [20:12:39] MaxSem: http://mobile-reportcard.wmflabs.org/ < errors have spiked but not too significantly - to be clear this will only effect mobile uploads right? [20:12:42] not editing? [20:12:45] tfinc: do write the email about app discussions during the product retreat :) [20:12:48] I'm off to sleep now. [20:13:01] jdlrobson, prolly [20:13:16] MaxSem: but it breaks the ux for login in that it throws you to desktop? [20:13:32] yes, and doesn't log you in globally [20:13:41] BUG: 2px at bottom of windows phone 7 browser position fixed element [20:13:59] jdlrobson: MaxSem Maryana it sounds like we should wait [20:14:02] i'd rather have this be fixed on the big projects now [20:14:12] ? [20:14:50] jcmish, wait with what for what? [20:14:53] i mean, if we wait, will it be broken for a day on english wikipedia and all the other wmf11 projects? [20:15:01] yes [20:15:16] til tomrorow for wmf11? [20:15:46] BUG: weird windows phone 7 saving bug (weird video taken) [20:15:58] i don't want to wait. i'd rather have it be broken on those smaller projects for awhile than on enwiki, which is 50% of our audience [20:15:58] jcmish, the bug's already there [20:16:12] ok [20:16:14] ah gotcha MaxSem [20:18:08] MaxSem: is page images installed on test wiki? [20:18:14] yes [20:18:43] bug: refresh button moved on nearby to left [urgent] [20:19:02] jdlrobson: I was just typing [20:19:04] ^ Maryana [20:19:13] is that the . that shows weirdly [20:19:16] gah! weird. [20:19:22] I'm seeing that on my iphone [20:20:42] * jdlrobson is working on some fixes [20:21:33] anybody tested uploads? [20:22:02] Maryana: I'm testing them now [20:22:14] sweet, thx [20:22:32] No prob was already on it :D Beta labs always has upload issues [20:22:35] so it's problematic [20:23:16] i just got an error :( [20:23:35] is it cos testwiki is on wmf10, or just because testwiki sucks in general for uploading? [20:24:28] hmm I was able to upload [20:24:40] but my counts are off as always [20:24:48] what error did you get Maryana? [20:25:00] (PS1) Jdlrobson: Regression: Fix nearby refresh button [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75771 [20:25:16] ^ kaldari [20:25:16] oh, bad filename. hmm [20:25:25] weird [20:25:54] minor bug: no right margin for the text area in photo uploads [20:25:56] minor bug: on successful upload upload icon disappears instead of becoming locked (becomes locked when page refreshed) [20:25:59] minor bug: photos are not styled exactly the same in preview as in the article (grey border missing) [20:27:53] hmm, on the second thought, users with mobile UAs and without stopMobileRedirect cookies aren't affected. realised it after I already did all the trickery [20:27:57] :P [20:30:13] Chromecast: ordered! [20:30:38] Okay out side of the things already listed I'm not seeing any other issues [20:31:00] jdlrobson: how many fixes are you putting in? [20:32:54] (PS1) Jdlrobson: Blacklist editing on older phones [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75776 [20:32:59] jcmish: 2 so far [20:33:14] k just wanna keep an eye out for when they're merged [20:33:15] i think those are the major ones [20:33:18] so I can restest [20:33:53] jgonera: kaldari https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75776 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75771 [20:34:59] (CR) Kaldari: [C: 2] Blacklist editing on older phones [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75776 (owner: Jdlrobson) [20:35:30] (Merged) jenkins-bot: Blacklist editing on older phones [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75776 (owner: Jdlrobson) [20:39:02] (CR) Kaldari: [C: 2] Regression: Fix nearby refresh button [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75771 (owner: Jdlrobson) [20:39:22] (Merged) jenkins-bot: Regression: Fix nearby refresh button [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75771 (owner: Jdlrobson) [20:39:44] updating... [20:40:39] minor bug: message on editing says "you are not allowed to edit this page" when actually it's that the phone is crappy and doesn't support it [20:40:56] :) [20:41:04] what are you testing on? [20:42:53] deployed ^^^ [20:43:05] k thanks [20:43:12] check MaxSem [20:46:55] Maryana: MaxSem jdlrobson fixes are in and tested on test wiki [20:47:05] w00t [20:47:11] jcmish: i have a minor fix we may want to get in [20:48:04] ah k which ones? [20:48:54] (PS3) Cmcmahon: QA: New Automation test Menu urls for bug 51078 [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/72895 (owner: Mgrover) [20:48:56] (PS1) Jdlrobson: Disable file input during upload [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75780 [20:48:57] ^ jcmish jgonera Maryana kaldari [20:49:46] k if Maryana is cool with it then I'm good [20:49:59] good by me [20:51:32] (PS4) Cmcmahon: QA: New Automation test Menu urls for bug 51078 [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/72895 (owner: Mgrover) [20:54:45] (PS5) Cmcmahon: QA: New Automation test Menu urls for bug 51078 [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/72895 (owner: Mgrover) [20:55:06] (PS2) JGonera: Disable file input during upload [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75780 (owner: Jdlrobson) [20:55:08] (CR) Cmcmahon: [C: 1] "Michelle, I fixed this up and I think it DTRT now" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/72895 (owner: Mgrover) [20:55:49] (CR) JGonera: [C: 2] Disable file input during upload [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75780 (owner: Jdlrobson) [20:56:34] (Merged) jenkins-bot: Disable file input during upload [extensions/MobileFrontend] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75780 (owner: Jdlrobson) [20:57:22] any other fix in the pipes or should i push^^? [20:58:24] jdlrobson: jcmish beat me on 75780. Any others? [20:59:01] kaldari: I didn't do 75780 [20:59:05] :D i just said it's okay [20:59:22] MaxSem: https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralLogin/complete?token=e7fb0b687c0e66c1ea750cafda84197d :( [20:59:23] heads up, possible login incompatibilities [20:59:38] jdlrobson, it's not supposed to work before scap [20:59:42] MaxSem: ok cool [20:59:45] that reassures me :) [21:00:04] however, funnier is that there are problems on beta with login [21:00:18] I might have to back out my CA fixes [21:00:32] jcmish: if you like https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/75772/ I would merge it. I hacked on it some. For Qwalitee [21:00:39] MaxSem: jdlrobson let me see if that's on beta [21:00:39] ha beat me to it [21:00:39] is that an us thing or CA? [21:00:39] jcmish, there's no deployment log for this deployment? [21:00:44] bug: clicking watch with javascript disabled renders a page with the star still showing as disabled (but refreshing fixes that) [21:01:08] deployment log? [21:01:17] jgonera: ? [21:01:24] jcmish, www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileFrontend/Deployments [21:02:17] try again [21:02:24] i wasn't logged in when I posted it last night so it was pending review [21:03:03] k thanks chrismcmahon we have broken main tests which is making jobs fail in sauce that I need to get fixed today [21:04:41] Bug: Nokia C3 can't watch articles [21:07:22] not a bug, Nokia sucks:P [21:07:32] MaxSem: agreed [21:07:34] i think we're good to go [21:08:15] we're investigating a beta breakage [21:08:24] MaxSem: what's the beta breakage? [21:08:46] inability to log in [21:09:00] MaxSem: i just get taken to Special:CentraLogin [21:09:06] it does log me in though.. [21:09:51] ^ jcmish MaxSem [21:10:11] still, beta problems have to be investigated [21:10:28] jdlrobson: it's intermittent for me [21:10:40] you tried it on betalabs jdlrobson? [21:10:49] jgonera: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Editing_coming_to_mobile_site [21:10:53] jcmish: no just test wiki... [21:10:57] ah [21:11:02] are we talking about test wiki beta or beta labs? [21:11:06] the word beta is confusing [21:11:12] 'beta problems [21:11:16] = beta labs?" [21:11:18] test wiki and it's happening on beta labs [21:11:38] I have it intermittently happening on beta labs and on testwiki [21:11:43] works for me on test wiki - i just cleared cookies and tried it [21:11:59] i'm guessing it's something to do with testwiki & not us [21:13:18] jcmish: I'm going to fix a few of those right now if that's OK [21:13:53] chrismcmahon, how long does it take for beta to update after git? [21:15:06] MaxSem: shouldn't be long [21:15:12] :) [21:15:57] chrismcmahon: nope that's fine [21:20:09] chrismcmahon, per http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:Version CA is updated but login still doesn't work [21:20:37] well crap [21:20:46] I bet that it's due to today's huge text varnish changes [21:21:53] MaxSem: does that mean we'll have that problem in production? [21:21:59] no [21:23:04] anyway, let's scap and revert CA if problems arise, unless someone objects [21:23:10] scap! [21:23:21] Agreed MaxSem [21:23:31] I'll be around to test after scap :D [21:23:40] chrismcmahon, jdlrobson, jgonera, kaldari? ^^ [21:23:41] * Maryana crosses fingers [21:23:46] ok [21:23:50] and toes Maryana :D [21:24:22] scap scap scap [21:24:50] chrismcmahon, can you file a bug and add Mark Bergsma to CC? [21:25:39] MaxSem: you mean update https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51988 ? or something different? [21:26:53] ow, right. I'll add Mark with a comment [21:26:58] thanks [21:33:35] scapping [21:39:54] https://twitter.com/rakugojon/status/360150740238495744 < MaxSem jcmish jgonera's fortune cookie :) [21:40:36] hahahahahhaha [21:40:36] nice [21:49:32] MaxSem: just to check you did check with ryan about the cache flush yeh.. [21:49:59] ugh, forgot with all this login madness [21:50:11] where is Ryan Lane [21:50:11] not too long anyway:) [21:50:41] whoa, jcmish and you mobileistas, check out the tapsterbot from the guy who invented Selenium: https://www.tindie.com/products/hugs/tapster/ [21:51:13] MaxSem: talking to Ryan now in ops [21:51:29] ( #wikimedia-operations ) [21:54:15] MaxSem: poke - cache flush under control? [21:54:41] let's wait for his reply:) [21:54:58] MaxSem: the bit i'm confused about is the site looks fine right now in stable/logged out.. :) [21:55:09] it's as if a cache flush has been done.. [21:55:14] I ain't finished scapping yet [21:55:33] * jdlrobson very confused with what's going on [21:55:41] jdlrobson, in addition to logging out you have to kill all the cookies [21:56:39] Ryan is not responding which is worrying me [21:57:09]