[16:03:33] hey awjr [16:03:34] welcome back :) [16:03:40] hi YuviPanda, thanks :) [16:06:25] still crawling out from underneath my email backlog :| [16:07:01] awjr: yeah, gonna be a while before we see you elsewhere [16:07:03] I think [16:07:22] hehehe [16:07:29] YuviPanda: are you going to wikimania? [16:07:32] awjr: yes! [16:07:36] \o/ [16:07:40] so I'll be out of action (sortof) in a week [16:08:05] i think just about all of us will be :) [16:08:53] yeah :) [16:29:12] so, I tried unsuccessfully to mobile edit with my Kindle. [16:29:20] I press edit, but nothing happens, :( [16:29:37] heyb ragesoss [16:29:39] hey brion [16:29:46] ragesoss: kindle fire [16:29:47] ? [16:29:54] no, kindle paperwhite [16:30:04] I doubt it'll be supported, no js and all. [16:30:12] it's got some js [16:30:20] I'm pretty sure. [16:30:27] heyy [16:30:36] file a bug butl [16:30:36] it shouldn't be showing the 'edit' [16:30:58] brion: there's a patch for removing ActionBarSherlock :) [16:30:58] i'm doing moving crap today but i'll check in from time to time :) [16:31:02] awesome [16:31:05] not sure if we should merge or not, though. [16:31:10] I see no reason to not to, but also no reason to [16:31:15] heh [16:31:22] simplicity of code == win [17:06:37] brion: will you be in for the apps/design syncup? [17:08:47] mhurd: can you take the stand up today? erik needs me in a meeting 10-11 [17:09:01] awjr: welcome back [17:09:09] * awjr waves [17:09:11] thanks tfinc :) [17:09:18] tfinc: ya! [17:12:29] YuviPanda: unfortunately looks like i'll be smack in the middle of dealing with movers then [17:12:32] :( [17:12:33] ok [17:12:58] meh [17:13:58] mhurd: do you have a link to that etherpad? [17:14:04] ya [17:14:25] http://etherpad.wmflabs.org/pad/p/wm-mobile-design-jul [17:14:28] YuviPanda: ^ [17:15:07] MaxSem: can you join the ops call to get an update on varnish text migration ? [17:15:11] today* [17:15:47] sure [17:18:08] MaxSem: erik is asking for it. wont likely impact us but erik wants to stay in the loop. do you have the invite ? [17:18:26] I see it on eng calendar [17:18:34] yeah, just jump into it [17:19:12] and yes, I'm keeping an eye on it, reviewed Mark's varnish changes just today:) [17:20:05] MaxSem: in gerrit ? [17:20:54] yep [17:21:36] hey mhurd [17:21:37] if brion isn't going to be on the design meet, then someone else has to do the Android app's demo :| [17:21:43] brion: do you think i should add shadow on details page "Title", "Description" and "Categories" headings? [17:22:21] YuviPanda: oh... [17:22:30] YuviPanda: not sure how to handle that [17:22:59] mhurd: I am now wondering if we should push this again. I really want brion to be in on this [17:23:02] mhurd: let's leave it flat of rnow [17:23:09] i wonder if kaldari and maryana will still make it in time for a 1030 standup [17:23:14] (re shadows) [17:23:17] brion: cool [17:23:27] not sure, though. blergh. [17:23:42] mhurd: perhaps you can grab a device and show it around to people? [17:24:23] YuviPanda: i'll see if i can get the latest on the nexus i have here [17:24:30] mhurd: super [17:24:56] mhurd: don't get the market release, get the one fromhttps://integration.wikimedia.org/nightly/mobile/android-commons/android-commons_latest.apk [17:24:58] gah [17:24:59] https://integration.wikimedia.org/nightly/mobile/android-commons/android-commons_latest.apk [17:25:00] i mean [17:25:16] YuviPanda: k [17:25:34] mhurd: I can run you through the app so you can figure stuff out [17:26:31] YuviPanda: awesome! trying to power up the nexus now… think it's charge depleted. may take a few minutes [17:26:38] alright [17:26:43] this is the nexus 4, right? :D not the ancient nexus 1 [17:26:52] YuviPanda: ya the 4 [17:26:58] heh good [17:28:34] YuviPanda: grabbing coffee - brb [17:29:13] is everyone coming to the meetup? [17:29:17] mhurd: is this the only pull req? https://github.com/wikimedia/Commons-iOS/pull/113 [17:29:32] MaxSem: during the wikimania window will we be deploying ? [17:29:54] hmm, needs a discussion [17:30:28] coordinate with greg when you know [17:30:30] sooner is better [17:30:41] i just heard their planning a branch freeze [17:31:37] greg-g, what branch freeze?:) [17:33:47] having some issues w/the tech in r34 but it's finally working [17:33:52] \o/ [17:34:21] whos up for doing a mobile editing talk @ the metrics meeting this week [17:34:22] ? [17:34:33] brion: ya [17:34:36] Maryana: --^ would kaldari be in ? [17:34:37] MaxSem: so, yeah, we'll go to 1.22wmf12 everywhere on Wed, then stay there until post-wikimania (just updated the Deployments page) [17:34:50] ok [17:34:52] MaxSem: so any bug fixes anywhere need to be pure cherrypicks [17:35:06] we don't want to accidentally deploy any code by pulling from master [17:35:32] [13Commons-iOS] 15brion closed pull request #113: Fixed description box bug and adjusted category text size. (06master...06detailsDetails) 02http://git.io/N1Ab5A [17:35:55] brion: awesome! [17:36:59] greg-g, ok - I'll mail the team [17:37:31] thanks [17:37:52] I'll mail engineering@ shortly (within the next hour or so, in back to back meetings) [17:41:38] ok where was i [17:41:42] bumping ver number and testing [17:42:27] 01[13Commons-iOS01] 15brion pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/tViJjA [17:42:27] 13Commons-iOS/06master 141f3f51f 15Brion Vibber: Bump to 1.0.7 [17:44:28] YuviPanda: nexus powering up! [17:44:31] \o/ [17:44:33] sweet [17:45:00] mhurd: can you do a quick install sanity check from test flight? [17:45:08] brion: ya [17:45:16] tx :D [17:45:42] SON OF A [17:45:48] can't get in the apple member center after all [17:45:56] fuck i'd heard it was back up :( [17:46:04] brion: no way!!!! [17:46:07] siiiiigh [17:46:10] GAH!!! [17:46:30] brion: well, looks good on testflight [17:47:18] yay [17:47:19] that's somethin' [17:47:31] brion: oh apple... [17:53:06] alright movers are on their way, i'll check back in later [18:01:07] YuviPanda: updated android studio to the latest. do you use studio to push apk's to device? [18:01:25] mhurd: you can just download the url on the phone and tap it :) [18:01:27] no need to use studio [18:01:30] or anything [18:01:37] YuviPanda: ah! [18:01:43] YuviPanda: awesome! [18:02:31] greg-g, https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/76215/ [18:04:37] MaxSem: thanks [18:16:16] Maryana: i think i fixed a few mingle weirdnesses. also, i made it easier to add a card to 'bug backlog' by making it always appear in the shortcut dropdown list thing on cards themselves [18:16:33] oh, awesome! [18:16:40] yeah, doing that by hand was a huge pain [18:16:56] :) [18:17:12] Maryana: when you have a chance can you comment on https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52106 and close it since it's a policy issue? [18:18:02] will do [18:18:04] just sending an email to philippe about it [18:18:13] groovy [18:18:14] thanks [18:18:19] hopefully one of his community advocacy/liasions can help us [18:19:09] Maryana: also i think i better understand https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52117 now - the link in the error text takes you to the desktop [18:19:18] just like the 'login' link displayed after you logout does [18:20:33] ohh, i see [18:20:34] i assume that's something exposed by central auth (just like the login link after logout) [18:20:52] hmm, how hard would it be to hijack that link and point it to desktop? [18:21:13] it would require more magic in the html formatter i think [18:21:20] it's probably something that should be done on the centralauth side [18:21:46] i'll try reassigning the bugs :) [18:38:39] MaxSem: you mentioned this morning some stuff about varnish - would you mind catching me up on what's going on? [18:39:37] Maryana: so the JA bug being a policy issue is that just a community policy? [18:39:58] yeah, and it doesn't seem to be affecting registered users, so it's all good [18:40:12] woot [18:40:12] k cool [18:40:12] thats good to hear [18:40:12] i mean, ideally, it would be good if they didn't have that policy for anyone :) [18:40:16] hehe true [18:40:22] but in the scheme of things [18:40:22] i sent a note to PB about it [18:40:24] it's not as bad [18:40:24] yep [18:40:34] YuviPanda: i think i have the apk installed - is there an easy way to confirm version? [18:40:42] mhurd: yeah, look in 'about' [18:40:53] mhurd: you should see 'testwiki' and 'beta10' [18:40:53] this is pretty cool: http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/graphs/all_daily_reg_mobile [18:40:54] Maryana: http://mobile-reportcard.wmflabs.org/ doesn't have errors and/or abandoned edits. can we add those? [18:41:08] 1.0alpha1 [18:41:12] YuviPanda: ^ [18:41:19] tfinc, yes, good idea [18:41:24] mhurd: hmm? that doesn't sound right [18:41:25] * YuviPanda looks [18:42:01] mhurd: okay, that folder needs cleaning up. the file named _latest isn't actually the latest >.< [18:42:03] mhurd: use https://integration.wikimedia.org/nightly/mobile/android-commons/commons-75d9a9f6185a3354c390239b716fdbddd171cf74.apk [18:42:20] YuviPanda: ya it didn't quite look up to date :) [18:42:37] awjr, before today, Varnish was stripping XFF from third-party proxies [18:42:47] :( [18:43:26] I noticed it during CR [18:43:33] good catch [18:43:59] oh, jcmish1 - i have a conflict at 11:30 tomorrow. i can do 10:30, though [18:44:27] yup [18:44:30] I'll move it [18:44:38] thanks :) [18:46:23] YuviPanda: this one says 1.0beta10. does that sound right? [18:46:31] mhurd: yeah, does it say 'testwiki' at the bottom? [18:46:36] in very hard to read, light letters? :P [18:46:50] YuviPanda: ya [18:47:03] mhurd: yeah, that's the one :) [18:47:10] YuviPanda: awesome! [18:47:23] mhurd: can you test it out? Upload a few pictures, add categories, etc? [18:48:05] YuviPanda: ya! [18:48:14] mhurd: there's also multiple upload, so check that out too :) [18:53:59] YuviPanda: when i select photo how do i select multiple? [18:54:16] mhurd: so it's an android limitation. you have to be in gallery, tap and hold a photo. [18:54:20] will start 'multiple selection' mode [18:54:24] you can tap as many more as you want [18:54:29] YuviPanda: ah [18:54:34] mhurd: and then hit share [18:55:05] mhurd: the android app also has the 'share from anywhere' feature baked in. So you can just use your camera app to keep taking pictures, and then hit share for the ones you want [18:59:35] awjr: can you add a hangout to our 12 ? [18:59:41] sure [18:59:54] done tfinc - are you ready now? [19:01:13] awjr: yes. i'm on the hangout [19:01:42] tfinc me too :) can you hear me? [19:09:59] mhurd: found your way around the app? [19:11:02] YuviPanda: yes and no. i can do most stuff, but i'm still pretty new to finding my way around android interfaces [19:11:10] mhurd: ah, okay [19:11:20] mhurd: do play around with it a little, since you'll be doing the demo :P [19:12:19] YuviPanda: ya been doing so [19:12:23] :) [20:00:02] Maryana: Remember how jon looked at something to extract the errors people were getting when trying to use mobile edit? [20:00:20] yeah, he was just looking at the raw data in stat1 [20:00:41] oh can I get you to show me how to do that tomorrow/ [20:00:42] ? [20:00:50] I want to grab id's from people who experienced problems [20:00:57] sure thing! you'll need to request stat1 access from ops, though [20:01:01] so I can reach out to them and see [20:01:06] I have stat1 access [20:01:11] oh, sweet :) [20:01:12] so I'm good there [20:01:15] yup :D [20:01:16] then it's really easy [20:03:50] mhurd: who else is gonna be coming? [20:03:56] oh tfinc's here. nevermind [20:04:25] YuviPanda: may and vibha hopefully! [20:05:08] mhurd: okay [20:05:19] it's dark where I am, so not point sending out my video [20:13:01] Maryana: decrypted carrier pigeons? hahahhaaha [20:13:49] he's super paranoid about the security of that password.. [20:14:34] yeah honestly I am too :D [20:14:44] so I can only make a little fun of him but boy was that funny [20:14:46] in the meantime, are there specific users you want me to look up errors for? [20:14:48] pm me if so [20:15:04] I want to get a couple of each of the categories jon sent [20:15:15] let me look up the list [20:21:03] YuviPanda: were looking at the link that jared put in chat [20:21:10] tfinc: yeah, I'm there too [20:31:30] kaldari: are you available to pick up the deployment this afternoon since MaxSem is not feeling well? if not, let's hold off until the regular deployment tomorrow. [20:39:23] sure [20:39:35] thanks :) [20:39:41] awjr_lunch: is that like now? [20:39:53] kaldari: no, MaxSem mentioned he had it scheduled for 3pm [20:40:10] cool [20:40:16] kaldari: let me know when it's done and I'll test things to make sure they're cool [20:40:30] I assume we're only deploying MobileFrontend? [20:40:37] greg-g: head's up that kaldari will be taking over the deployment MaxSem had scheduled for 3pm [20:41:12] ah, I see it's just for that fix [20:41:14] kaldari: yeah, just the one patchset [20:43:35] awjr: thanks! [20:43:59] * greg-g updates wiki page [21:03:37] (03CR) 10Kaldari: [C: 032] Simplify opt-in cookies [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/74667 (owner: 10MaxSem) [21:04:03] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Simplify opt-in cookies [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/74667 (owner: 10MaxSem) [21:17:54] hey Maryana [21:17:55] err [21:17:56] mhurd: [21:17:59] sorry Maryana [21:18:33] YuviPanda: i could have done better at presenting android info [21:19:01] nah, that was fine. [21:19:34] mhurd: so, what next? Do we setup cards for both iOS and Android? [21:21:13] YuviPanda: i was going to email mobile with the 3 things we roughly decided on: 1: simultaneous design stories for ios/android. 2: upcoming agora design. 3: test flight on regular basis w new devices for designers [21:21:21] YuviPanda: does that sound good? [21:21:37] mhurd: heh, I just hit send with something similar. let me undo [21:21:39] undid [21:21:45] mhurd: sounds good! [21:22:46] mhurd: are we going to start actively using the mobile design trello board? [21:23:04] mhurd: can you mention that in your email also? how exactly we're going to do cards for these? [21:24:38] * YuviPanda pokes mhurd [21:26:53] YuviPanda: just talked to tomasz a bit about that and he said mobile web is working through the same question and we could have that discussion together with them as well [21:27:11] mhurd: alright. [21:27:16] YuviPanda: in other words, not sure yet :) [21:27:24] mhurd: heh, ok [21:28:37] mhurd: now that the iOS release is out of the way, I guess iOS should also start looking at implementing campaigns? [21:29:31] YuviPanda: i added "conclusion" section to bottom of http://etherpad.wmflabs.org/pad/p/wm-mobile-design-jul waiting to send to mobile list for a bit to give you a chance to review... [21:30:06] mhurd: reading [21:30:36] mhurd: sounds okay, but do mention the discussion about how to do cards (and mention that is is pending) [21:30:58] YuviPanda: ok [21:35:33] YuviPanda: i added a "To Do" section if you want to give it a read-through [21:36:02] looking [21:37:24] mhurd: should we add a card about figuring out what things to actually do for Android? i.e. a time to specifically make up cards for android design? [21:50:16] YuviPanda: i'd say ping tomasz for his thoughts on how he thinks we may coordinate w/ mobile web on figuring it out [21:50:24] tfinc: ^ [21:50:32] meeting [21:51:23] YuviPanda: do u think i'm ok to email what i have so far [21:51:47] mhurd: well, just email it :) We can always add more [21:51:54] YuviPanda: sounds good [21:52:00] mhurd: I'll probably go to sleep shortly, do grab tfinc after his meeting [21:52:05] mhurd: thanks for taking the lead on this [21:52:20] YuviPanda: np! thanks for your help :) [21:52:23] :) [21:55:54] mhurd: bad pasting :P [21:56:04] linebreaks didn't take [21:59:52] (03PS1) 10MaxSem: Show error message on CAPTCHAs and extension errors [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76633 [21:59:54] did you miss me?:) [22:00:04] MaxSem: feeling better? [22:00:16] not sure [22:00:27] but can't medicate myself any longer [22:00:31] hahah [22:00:35] aw MaxSem [22:00:45] you can ALWAYS medicate [22:00:51] when you have access to good vodka [22:02:11] (03CR) 10MaxSem: [C: 032] Show error message on CAPTCHAs and extension errors [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76633 (owner: 10MaxSem) [22:02:13] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Show error message on CAPTCHAs and extension errors [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76633 (owner: 10MaxSem) [22:02:40] awjr, jcmish1, kaldari - deploying [22:02:49] kayo MaxSem [22:03:20] MaxSem: I thought you were sick [22:03:31] :) [22:04:06] oh, i thought kaldari was taking over? [22:04:07] YuviPanda: really? no line breaks? gah! [22:04:12] mhurd: heads up that the formatting on the App design chat meeting mail looks wonky [22:04:16] * tfinc scrolls back p [22:04:32] YuviPanda: whats up ? [22:04:54] tfinc: mhurd wanted to talk about seeing how to co-ordinate with design team for making cards [22:05:56] YuviPanda: so thats a similar conversation to mobile web and design [22:05:57] YuviPanda: tfinc: i added line breaks and re-sent [22:06:16] YuviPanda: pull Jon/Juliusz and have a coordinated front for what it will look like [22:06:29] yes i know its trello/mingle but we need the two teams aligned [22:06:33] with design [22:06:36] tfinc: hmm aren't they both on vacation? [22:06:44] i'll catch up during wikimania, I guess [22:06:49] yes, they are [22:06:54] we'll soon say that about everyone [22:07:06] keep in mind that we wont have another official sprint till the end of august [22:07:15] yeah [22:07:20] so we have time [22:07:25] true [22:20:28] all right awjr, jcmish1, kaldari - deployed, please test:) [22:20:36] kayo [22:20:42] ok [22:20:53] en.m MaxSem? [22:21:01] yup [22:21:03] k [22:24:24] K MaxSem looks good [22:24:27] not seeing any issues [22:24:59] jcmish this fix should resolve https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52047 and https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/52049 [22:25:14] yup [22:25:17] cool :) [22:25:22] I pulled those to use to test earler [22:25:25] *earlier [22:25:35] I'll close them out [22:26:08] tfinc: new Xcode 5 beta today [22:26:31] mhurd: i dread those [22:26:45] saweet, thanks jcmish1 [22:26:46] tfinc: haha. new ios7 beta too [22:28:34] MaxSem: Took me a while to figure out how to generate the error, but it is working correctly now [22:28:42] on en.wiki [22:29:19] cool [22:31:58] greg-g, we're done [22:32:19] eswiki looks ok, plwiki now just gives me an error rather than saving the edit which i guess was desired behavior? [22:32:35] yup that's correct awjr [22:32:42] cool! [22:32:49] a bit funky but works as expected : [22:32:51] :D [22:33:12] go mobile editing! [22:39:00] MaxSem: thanks! [23:12:38] (03CR) 10Dr0ptp4kt: [C: 04-1] "(6 comments)" [extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76201 (owner: 10Yurik) [23:15:56] awjr, I've a couple of changes where your review would be appreciated. the first is https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75362 [23:16:37] the second is https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/73018/ - while it's merged I'm still worried that it shouldn't have changed the logic so much [23:16:49] would appreciate your thoughts [23:16:58] okidoke - were you hoping for these to go out tomorrow? [23:17:09] MaxSem: ^ [23:17:09] no [23:17:57] alrighty - when i need a break from prepping for this workshop thing on weds i'll take a look :) [23:18:28] thanks:) [23:25:47] haha MaxSem I like your email :D [23:25:58] He was taking to long eh? [23:29:38] (03PS1) 10Kaldari: Fixes a bug with the display of the fixed userinfo panel when the left-nav is open. It now behaves the same as the article content - squishing at large screen sizes and clipping on small screens. [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76659 [23:32:19] awjr: free to start thinking about the appetizer workshop. as predicted i've had no other time to do this since we spoke [23:32:24] irc/hangout/other ? [23:32:56] tfinc no worries - let's stick to IRC now and start a hangout if needed [23:33:10] tfinc i've just started putting together roles/responsibilities slides [23:33:48] awjr: do share [23:34:02] E2 agile trainings - appetizer ? [23:34:10] aye [23:36:01] (03PS2) 10Kaldari: Fixes a bug with the display of the fixed userinfo panel when the left-nav is open. It now behaves the same as the article content - squishing at large screen sizes and clipping on small screens. [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76659 [23:39:11] (03CR) 10Dr0ptp4kt: [C: 04-1] "(2 comments)" [extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/75289 (owner: 10Yurik) [23:43:05] (03PS3) 10Kaldari: Fixes a bug with the display of the fixed userinfo panel when the left-nav is open. It now behaves the same as the article content - squishing at large screen sizes and clipping on small screens. [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76659