[00:23:03] (03CR) 10Kaldari: [C: 032] "Per Jon, who is now on vacation." [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81363 (owner: 10Kaldari) [00:26:01] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Some tweaks to the notifications overlay 1. Instead of resorting, just reversing notifications array 2. Smaller font for notification footer, per Vibha 3. Making sure loading spinner is actually visible when active 4. Hiding primary link - this isn't supp [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81363 (owner: 10Kaldari) [06:42:07] Hi, trying to make MobileFrontend work in my pet project. useformat=mobile works but mobile domain doesn't, see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:MobileFrontend#useformat.3Dmobile_works_but_mobile_domain_doesn.27t_32551 [06:42:27] If anybody knows thew answer please reply at that thread. I'm going to zzzz now. Thanks! [15:38:25] useformat=mobile works but mobile domain doesn't - https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Extension_talk:MobileFrontend/useformat%3Dmobile_works_but_mobile_domain_doesn%27t [15:38:31] any idea what is going n? [15:39:07] MaxSem: ^ [15:40:44] lol [15:41:11] m.espiral.org doesn't exist [15:45:41] MaxSem, is there anything I'm supposed to do in addition to the steps described at the Extension wiki page? [15:46:10] create and configure the subdomain [15:46:49] qgil, however - do you have Varnish in front of your wiki to redirect people to mobile subdomain? [15:47:33] MaxSem, I'm not aiming to enable autodetection yet. [15:47:52] MaxSem, first I want to get this working manually [15:47:56] in such case subdomain is overkill [15:48:27] MaxSem, I mean, as soon as it works mnually I will attempt autodetect [15:50:00] MaxSem, sounds silly but is there a place to describe the steps to "create and configure the subdomain". I will link them from https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileFrontend [15:50:34] that's not MF's concern, this is something you do with your host [15:51:18] MaxSem, sure, but if you are providing installation & configuration instructions it doesn hurt to explain what to do with your server to make this work [15:52:12] MaxSem, I got MobileFrontend working a year ago. I will check what I did... [15:52:16] every host has its own procedure [16:01:04] qgil, so what do you want to achieve? [16:02:44] MaxSem, having a mobile version of my site, with autodetection, considering that I have only FTP and very basic shell access to my host [16:03:25] MaxSem, there is a Varnish cache but I have no idea what can I do with it [16:03:27] so just set $wgMFAutodetectMobileView = true [16:03:45] there is? is it actually used? [16:03:47] MaxSem, yes, that was my plan as soon as I get the manual mobile view working [16:04:00] what's the expected load? [16:04:33] MaxSem, I hink after Facebook, Bing and Wikipedia, my site will top the ranks ;) [16:04:44] MaxSem, I don't expect much load [16:04:46] :) [16:05:28] then you don't need varnish [16:06:10] MaxSem, ok! In the meantime I found http://wiki.gandi.net/en/simple/cache - I might have it there by default [16:06:20] just not using it [16:06:47] MaxSem, can autodetection work without the mobile subdomain? [16:07:01] I might start with that [16:07:04] what kind of idiots give such instructions? this host sucks [16:07:15] qgil, $wgMFAutodetectMobileView = true [16:07:39] max-age=1 is especially gorgerous [16:07:59] ok [16:09:52] also, if you don't have access to Varnish VCL config, all attempts to use it with MF will fail [16:13:38] MaxSem, yaaayyy!!!! http://espiral.org looks mobile in my mobile device. [16:33:38] Hey MaxSem is it possible to make the Main Page on beta labs work like en.wiki? I want the edit to be locked just like on en wiki so I don't have to add crazy logic to my automation tests [16:34:37] yes - protect it;) [16:37:24] :D cool where do I set it so it doesn't get overwritten [16:57:05] jcmish, I gave you admin and crat on beta [16:57:52] sweet! [16:57:55] thanks MaxSem [17:02:40] dr0ptp4kt, are there any issues with hangout? [17:03:04] yurik, no issues. try clearing cache & cookies, and restarting browser [17:04:35] kaldari, did you update the production branch when you deployed that fix? [17:08:00] marktraceur, whenever you have time can you check http://espiral.org from your FirefoxOS device? You should see the mobile version. Thanks! [17:08:34] * YuviPanda feels tingle of happiness for uniting that ffos device with someone who would appreciate it :) [17:09:36] qgil: Will do [17:09:47] thx [17:11:06] YuviPanda: You were helpful to qgil indirectly :) [17:11:21] marktraceur: sure, and you no longer have a device that won't get updates ever :P [17:11:31] Indeed [17:11:46] marktraceur: and perhaps, over time, you will also agree that putting HTML/CSS/JS on a mobile phone as its major 'platform' is a stupid technical decision :P [17:12:08] YuviPanda: Are you kidding!? The only thing that would work better is Wikitext. [17:12:14] Trollolololol [17:12:19] :P [17:12:28] But seriously, I love the idea [17:12:35] The execution isn't super right now [17:12:38] But the idea is great [17:12:52] it is philosophically a great one. [17:12:56] just a stupid technical one. [17:12:57] marktraceur, YuviPanda I agree - I think they will get it right. Eventually... [17:13:16] YuviPanda: Why technically? [17:13:18] qgil: I seem to be rather alone in my concerns among FOSS people. [17:13:36] marktraceur: well, for the same reasons 'write once run anywhere' has never really worked for ages? [17:14:00] marktraceur: too many layers of abstraction, many leaky, plus DOM has a 'D' in it. [17:14:00] In the meantime I'm queuing up for an orange ZTE, and for a Jolla device too (because Qt can still bring what plain HTML/CSS/JS fails to deliver in a small checp device [17:14:18] qgil: indeed, Jolla is more promising, although I'm not sure how open source they are [17:14:29] YuviPanda, me neither. We'll see. [17:14:33] Ubuntu phone is even more promising, although I am guessing they won't be fully open source either. [17:14:53] YuviPanda, I'lll also have a look to the Ubuntu Phone, yes. [17:15:03] YuviPanda: I dunno, you get OK access to phone native stuff via the fancy libraries they've thrown in, and you can look at a lot of things as a document [17:15:07] the funny thing is that I have former colleagues working for these three platforms :) [17:15:20] qgil: haha! [17:15:37] qgil: sometimes, I secretly wish that OSS phone efforst weren't as fragmented. but I guess that's how things work. [17:15:39] *efforts [17:15:46] marktraceur: time will tell :) [17:15:52] I just hope tfinc puts the MediaWiki phone in the roadmap for once, so I have more colleagues working in mobile platforms ;) [17:16:24] We have to wait 'til awjr_workshop goes on vacation again [17:16:25] yeah. No scribunto though :D [17:16:38] marktraceur: well played :) [17:17:58] qgil: In other news it seems like the skin of that website is best viewed in 600x800 and netscape navigator [17:18:57] But I have no idea why [17:19:31] marktraceur: ow, yes. [17:19:59] alsao a lot of all caps [17:20:34] marktraceur, desktop, you mean? It's vector + http://espiral.org/wk/MediaWiki:Common.css (my experiment on customizing UI with CSS alone) [17:20:53] yurik, https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/80133/ [17:20:55] YuviPanda, you don't gt it: it's art. ;) But yes, just trying out things. Thanks for feedback! [17:32:03] brion: seen http://blue-dragon.wmflabs.org/wiki/Campaign:show-off-campaigns yet? [17:32:40] YuviPanda: it looks pretty awesome :D [17:32:53] brion: yeah :) [17:33:04] brion: let me make the category stuff not super slow + actually reverse chronological [17:33:09] heh [17:33:12] brion: think we can merge it this week/next week? [17:33:22] hell yes [17:33:26] brion: don't know if we can get any design look on it before that but [17:33:39] they can reply on list :) [18:40:07] 1 Warning: DOMDocument::loadHTML() [domdocument.loadhtml]: Input is not proper UTF-8, indicate encoding ! in Entity, line: 389 [18:40:07] in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.22wmf14/extensions/MobileFrontend/includes/specials/SpecialMobileDiff.php on line 192 [18:44:16] anyone know if tomasz is in the office today? [18:44:30] Thanks Reedy [18:45:42] kaldari: he's doing a training session of sorts to some other team [18:45:52] oh yeah [18:46:01] the agile workshop [18:46:17] kaldari, did you update the production branch when you deployed that fix? [18:46:31] MaxSem: oops, I didn't [18:46:52] then Reedy is now scapping a broken version:] [18:47:04] crap [18:47:44] Scap should be nearly done if you need to deploy [18:47:55] kaldari, I'll fix [18:48:05] MaxSem: thanks. Sorry about that [18:49:03] (03PS1) 10MaxSem: Remove errant remove call that appears to be causing PHP warnings in prod [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81701 [18:51:46] (03CR) 10MaxSem: [C: 032] Remove errant remove call that appears to be causing PHP warnings in prod [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81701 (owner: 10MaxSem) [18:52:05] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove errant remove call that appears to be causing PHP warnings in prod [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81701 (owner: 10MaxSem) [18:52:36] Feel free to sync whenever [18:52:38] Scap is done [18:53:52] thanks Reedy, preparing... [19:46:44] (03PS1) 10Mgrover: QA:#1136 en betalabs has the edit icon unlocked and en wiki has the edit icon locked. Changed betalabs to match and then fixed the automation scripts [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81845 [20:35:02] (03PS1) 10JGonera: Remove obsolete comment [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81861 [21:04:22] (03PS2) 10Cmcmahon: QA:#1136 en betalabs has the edit icon unlocked and en wiki has the edit icon locked. Changed betalabs to match and then fixed the automation scripts [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81845 (owner: 10Mgrover) [21:09:19] (03CR) 10Cmcmahon: "getting failures against beta:" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81845 (owner: 10Mgrover) [21:42:35] (03PS7) 10MaxSem: Alpha: UserProfile special page (first pass) [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76271 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [21:42:39] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Alpha: UserProfile special page (first pass) [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76271 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [21:42:56] (03CR) 10MaxSem: "Still a WIP." [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/76271 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [22:27:19] (03PS3) 10Cmcmahon: QA:#1136 en betalabs has the edit icon unlocked and en wiki has the edit icon locked. Changed betalabs to match and then fixed the automation scripts [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81845 (owner: 10Mgrover) [22:47:55] (03CR) 10Cmcmahon: [C: 032] "worked with Michelle to make this go on beta labs and prod" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81845 (owner: 10Mgrover) [22:48:14] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: QA:#1136 en betalabs has the edit icon unlocked and en wiki has the edit icon locked. Changed betalabs to match and then fixed the automation scripts [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81845 (owner: 10Mgrover) [23:33:58] (03PS1) 10JGonera: Add media viewer [alpha] [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81879 [23:38:45] (03CR) 10JGonera: [C: 04-1] "(1 comment)" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81507 (owner: 10MaxSem) [23:40:32] (03PS2) 10MaxSem: Fix spaces after references [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81507 [23:47:37] (03PS2) 10JGonera: Add media viewer [alpha] [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81879