[00:11:14] apple event 9/10 [00:13:26] (03PS2) 10JGonera: Add M.tapEvent (temporarily) [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82487 [00:13:27] (03PS1) 10JGonera: Story 1096: Beta section editing tutorial a/b test [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82556 [00:14:22] (03CR) 10JGonera: [C: 032] Add modified comment [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82438 (owner: 10JGonera) [00:15:14] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add modified comment [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82438 (owner: 10JGonera) [00:17:54] kaldari, can you have a llook at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/82067/ when you have a moment? [00:18:53] jgonera: sure [00:19:16] meant to review it last week, but didn't get finished [00:19:49] (03PS6) 10JGonera: Add media viewer [alpha] [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81879 [00:20:13] (03PS8) 10Kaldari: Enable loading more than 20 notifications in the archive view [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82073 [00:20:51] no problem [00:21:04] mhurd: leave in 10 [00:21:05] brion, I made some changes to https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/81879/ [00:21:34] I can't believe Jenkins fails patches based on whitespace issues :P [00:21:44] oh well [00:22:17] tfinc: ya! [00:22:20] kaldari, why not? I'm fine with that ;) [00:22:56] because I actually like having tabbed whitespace between tabbed lines, but I guess that's just me :P [00:25:10] kaldari, I used to do that too, but that was before I started using vim. it takes care of it for me [00:25:50] Is that something it cleans up on file save? [00:28:44] jgonera: i'll take a peek :) [00:38:16] kaldari: for decades I have put a few extra spaces at the end of lines, I'm with ya [00:45:55] (03CR) 10Kaldari: [C: 04-1] "(1 comment)" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82067 (owner: 10JGonera) [00:52:03] (03CR) 10Brion VIBBER: "Now works as expected with Commons images -- looking good!" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81879 (owner: 10JGonera) [02:48:07] mobile web people [02:48:14] are notifications in stable, or just beta? [02:49:17] ah, never mind [13:21:23] Hi ! [13:24:07] hi [15:17:17] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 031] "i18n/L10n reviewed." [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81879 (owner: 10JGonera) [15:18:31] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 032] Fix fatal in MobileNotifications [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82447 (owner: 10MaxSem) [15:18:56] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix fatal in MobileNotifications [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82447 (owner: 10MaxSem) [15:19:55] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 031] Provide information about LQT status of a page [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/81580 (owner: 10MaxSem) [15:29:32] http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/09/hdmi-2-0-is-ready-for-your-next-ultra-hd-tv/ \o/ [15:30:05] up to 32 audio channels? that seems excessive [15:30:43] (03PS1) 10MaxSem: Improve logging [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82622 [17:02:47] woohoo i got more micro-hdmi->hdmi adaptors [17:03:19] small victories :D [17:14:45] awjr, I need https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82434 and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82622 [17:14:56] cool MaxSem i'll take a look [17:15:40] thanks! [17:18:33] so on top of dealing with the thunderstorm last night, someone ran into my car and ripped the front bumper half off while it was parked in front of the house, and took off with no note or anything [17:19:47] NO WAY [17:19:53] yeah [17:19:54] :( [17:20:01] :((( [17:20:22] man that is awful [17:20:26] i assume my insurance will cover it but have yet to make that phone call [17:20:39] it is a pain in the butt [17:21:38] ;( [17:21:47] people suck. [17:23:03] yeah, some do for sure [17:23:35] (03CR) 10awjrichards: [C: 032] Improve logging [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82622 (owner: 10MaxSem) [17:23:57] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Improve logging [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82622 (owner: 10MaxSem) [17:24:10] man I would be so iritated [17:24:24] im trying to keep all zen about it [17:24:36] but it definitely complicates the rest of this week! [17:24:46] (03CR) 10awjrichards: [C: 032] "yay stats!" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82434 (owner: 10MaxSem) [17:25:15] thanks awjr [17:25:20] np MaxSem [17:25:27] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Save stats on MobileOptions usage/fails [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82434 (owner: 10MaxSem) [17:27:21] heya, could someone who's in the office and has a sec go help S page out with the TV we use for standup? [17:27:35] he's trying to set it up for the flow standup for the very first time [17:27:38] oh, *that* is why he was sitting on the floor near our standup :D [17:27:39] and i'm anticipating confusion/terror [17:27:51] Maryana: im not sure anyone who's on right now is in the office [17:27:57] d'oh [17:28:01] Maryana: tfinc and mhurd are in the office [17:28:08] ahha mhurd! [17:28:14] tfinc is offline [17:28:48] awjr: tomasz is on it [17:28:54] sweet [17:28:55] w00t Maryana ^ [17:29:00] thanks, guys :) [17:30:32] Finally [17:30:49] Why the heck is it so hard to join this channel? [17:30:54] cabal [17:32:33] (03CR) 10JGonera: "I still think the pre-commit hook should be updated, because if not, we'll gradually increase the files in size when we modify them. Curre" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82105 (owner: 10MaxSem) [17:35:19] <{{Guy}}> PissedPanda: ?? What for? [17:35:45] can't a panda be pissed in peace without having questions asked? [17:35:46] :P [17:35:58] <{{Guy}}> No. [17:36:04] <{{Guy}}> Now spill.. [17:36:14] <{{Guy}}> Or no bambo for you. [17:52:09] awjr: i just helped s with the first flow stand up [17:52:20] good start for the team [17:52:27] the'll be on @ 10:30 if you want to join [17:52:48] hey tfinc! did you look at blue-dragon.wmflabs.org/wiki/Campaign:show-off-campaigns? [17:52:58] http://blue-dragon.wmflabs.org/wiki/Campaign:show-off-campaigns even [17:53:53] PissedPanda: nope. but i can look at it in about 10min [17:53:59] tfinc: okay. [17:54:01] awesome tfinc! [17:55:58] (03PS3) 10MaxSem: optipng -o7 "$png" && advpng -z -4 "$png" && advdef -z -4 "$png" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82105 [17:57:41] tfinc: how did their first standup go? [18:01:16] 11minutes, roughly 8 people reported statuses, good updates [18:01:24] \o/ [18:05:13] anyone know where the code is in MobileFrontend that strips redlinks? Unfortunately, it's not easy to grep for since the class name is "new" [18:06:05] heh [18:06:22] kaldari: i believe there's a list of classes/etc to strip, which has it [18:06:24] lemme look [18:06:40] it's not actually stripped [18:06:44] it's converted into a span [18:06:55] ooh funky [18:07:00] unlike the stuff that is stripped in the HtmlFormatter [18:07:43] ah there it is [18:07:50] kaldari: includes/formatters/HtmlFormatter.php [18:07:56] // Handle red links with action equal to edit [18:08:01] yay [18:08:27] looks like it does indeed pull links with class=new [18:08:34] and replaced them with spans :) [18:09:23] jgonera: kaldari: who can step in for jon in a ve on mobile discussion @ 2 today ? [18:10:03] I could, but I'm not sure I'll know what to ask about. [18:10:05] tfinc, we'll have a deployment 1-3 [18:10:31] how likely is it to run over ? [18:10:34] tfinc, I could too [18:10:42] i'm interested in the topic, but i too don't know the best things to ask :) [18:10:52] tfinc, it usually does run over 2 [18:11:15] MaxSem: how likely are your to run over 3 ? [18:11:44] running over 3 is pretty rare [18:11:44] mmm, it happens sometimes, but not often rarely [18:11:57] MaxSem: do we need both kaldari and jgonera for deployment or can we spare one for the ve sync up? [18:11:58] s/rarely/lately/ [18:12:05] touche :) [18:13:05] awjr, I reserve the right to recall them if something goes wrong:) but I'm interested in this too [18:13:23] though can live without it [18:21:53] MaxSem: brion: there is hangout on the invite so feel free to jump in. erik asked me to have an early pass on the product requirements for starting to think about ve on mobile and specifically ve on tablets. no guarantee about this being an overly technical talk [18:22:10] spiff, i'll listen in at least [18:22:38] jgonera: kaldari: have you guys sync'd up with jon about his thoughts on ve and mobile ? [18:22:41] tfinc, I can haz invite?:) [18:23:02] done [18:23:08] thx [18:26:25] What's the timeline for adding VE to mobile? [18:26:41] tfinc, no, I don't recall him telling me that he would have such a conversation anytime soon [18:27:24] hey preilly, our goal for this fiscal year is to redirect tablets to the mobile site. one of the requirements for that is to have tablet ve [18:27:34] were building the timeline now [18:27:44] Oh okay so only on tablets? [18:27:48] we have Minerva after all:) [18:28:04] * tfinc ponders wether this should wait for jon to get back if jgonera and kaldair are going to have to play catchup [18:28:47] preilly: we have yet to scope have far it'll go this year. eventually we'd want it for all but that may or may not be out of scope for this fiscal year [18:29:00] tfinc: he is back tomorrow iirc [18:29:10] my 2 cents is that Jon is quick on his feet and will play catch-up well [18:29:56] quite possible ;) [18:29:57] tfinc: what is the agenda for the mtg? [18:30:16] tablets will likely be easier, as phones mean 'small screen handling' :) [18:30:33] but the actual editor tech should all be the same, just … lots of UI work needed [18:31:49] tfinc: no, I haven't [18:32:12] preilly: no idea [18:33:40] What's the memory utilization look like with the VE in it's current form? [18:33:58] i suspect 'awful' for large pages… we'll have to look into that :) [18:34:21] (being able to work on sections or other subsets of a page might be a big win on mobile/tablet) [18:34:49] * brion scribbles some notes for the meeting later [18:38:25] hahahahahahaha [18:38:43] oh hey… https://www.webkit.org/blog/2910/improved-support-for-high-resolution-displays-with-the-srcset-image-attribute/ [18:38:52] i'll have to test and confirm that works on wikipedia :D [18:38:54] +121MB in chrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States [18:38:58] owie [18:39:11] MaxSem: after or before editing :P [18:39:17] during [18:39:27] (03PS9) 10Kaldari: Enable loading more than 20 notifications in the archive view [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82073 [18:39:40] is that the total usage or the addition to the viewing resting state? :PPP [18:39:46] I mean 121 meg more - the total at peak was 196M [18:40:02] yikes [18:40:04] wow [18:40:06] ack [18:40:13] yesssss, i think i'll push for section editing [18:40:30] ve has a looooong road ahead [18:47:55] jgonera: kaldari: there aren't any great slots thur/fri where we can get erik so i'd rather jump into it and loop jon in tomorrow. which one of you could come by @ 2 ? [18:49:04] tfinc: my only scheduling conflict is the deployment (same as jgonera I assume) [18:49:37] so I guess we can draw straws [18:51:09] I'm fine with going unless jgonera really wants to [18:51:32] k, i'll add you kaldari [18:52:00] brion: srcset, YAY! [18:55:38] tfinc, kaldari, if any details about our current editor implementation are needed, let me know, I don't think today's deployment will be a hard one [18:55:47] * jgonera heading to the office [18:59:47] (03CR) 10Nikerabbit: "Is this pre-commit hook MobileFrontend specific or could it be part of the Jenkins' checks for other repos as well?" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82105 (owner: 10MaxSem) [19:00:32] (03CR) 10MaxSem: "It's not a check, it's a compression of all changed PNGs before commit." [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82105 (owner: 10MaxSem) [19:07:23] (03CR) 10Nikerabbit: "Oh. If we could develop a check it would be useful for other repos." [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82105 (owner: 10MaxSem) [19:17:17] anyone has any config changes to deploy? [19:20:16] preilly: is today your birthday? skype says so [19:26:58] (03PS10) 10Kaldari: Enable loading more than 20 notifications in the archive view [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82073 [19:28:20] (03PS11) 10Kaldari: Various improvements to mobile notifications... [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82073 [19:29:59] (03PS12) 10Kaldari: Various improvements to mobile notifications... [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82073 [19:31:24] Maryana, is Kenan around? we need him online for deployment [19:33:32] hmm, not sure [19:34:47] riiight, you're not at office [19:34:49] silly me [19:47:37] MaxSem: i haven't seen kenan around online - perhaps jgonera has seen him in person? [19:48:16] he's not at his desk [19:48:26] should I look for him? [19:49:11] (03PS2) 10JGonera: Fix loading spinner page actions buttons [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82067 [19:49:35] jgonera: we need him online for the deployment but perhaps he's off getting lunch or something. maybe give him 5-10 mins before looking :) [19:50:31] ok [19:51:27] jgonera: just text him [19:51:39] what's his phone no? [19:56:11] jgonera: check the office contact list [19:59:54] I always forget about it, I've just texted him [20:00:45] thanks jgonera :) [20:05:24] all right awjr, jcmish, jgonera, Maryana - we're live on testwiki, please test:) [20:05:31] thanks Max [20:05:49] on it! [20:07:40] MaxSem: he's getting on IRC now [20:08:12] MaxSem: Hey, heard you wanted me to take a look at something [20:08:19] awjr: Yes today is my birthday [20:08:24] preilly: happy birthday :D [20:08:45] happy birthday preilly [20:09:07] awjr, MaxSem thanks! [20:09:49] oh preilly I was running tests and didn't see you [20:09:53] kenanwang, yes - usually, the mobile team has its product manager during deployments to look at what we're deploying and give the final verdict: to scap or not to scap [20:09:54] HAPPY BDAY! [20:10:15] Happy bday [20:10:25] jcmish: Thanks! [20:10:30] kenanwang: Thanks! [20:10:35] are you gonna do anything fun? [20:10:36] MaxSem: yep [20:11:18] tfinc: any word on me traveling for Mobile Planning? [20:11:32] MaxSem: one of the MF commits has a dep on a change in the campaigns extension but i'm not sure if the campaigns extension has been udpated in prod yet, or if we can safely push the MF change w/o the campaigns change in place [20:11:38] jcmish: let me see if anything is left on that. you just need to extend your stay right ? [20:11:54] I can do it that way or head back and then come back out [20:12:25] jgonera: do you know ^^? [20:13:34] I'd like to know if this dependency is mandatory [20:13:44] jgonera: this is re the dependency in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/80503/5 [20:14:44] checking [20:16:03] awjr, I _think_ that the worst the can happen is that we'll be appending a useless query string param [20:16:27] automation tests passed [20:16:31] moving on to poking around [20:17:20] jgonera, did you work on the campaign tracking story? [20:17:37] it was jon [20:17:40] Maryana, Jon worked on it, I just made a small fixes to his patches [20:17:50] i'm not sure how to test it other than look for the &campaign= in the url, but i'm not seeing it [20:18:06] something's weird with uploads for me again, but I doubt it's because of this deployment [20:18:13] jgonera: looking through the patchset, i think you're right [20:19:12] I went to uploads, it showed "1 upload" message but no image, I tried uploading and refreshed the page and now I still see "1 upload" message + my old image, but not the new one I just uploaded... [20:19:48] jgonera: it always does that on test wiki [20:19:55] oh... [20:20:05] but on betalabs it works correctly [20:20:44] now I opened it in a different browser and I see the new image only... [20:20:55] There are only two story cards being deployed today? plus miscellaneous bugs? [20:21:12] jgonera: let me check [20:21:33] ok, now seeing the same thing in both browsers... [20:21:47] but if testwiki is so unreliable, we should stop using it [20:22:24] kenanwang: actually one story card, the rest bug fixes and various other small things [20:22:30] I think testwiki is like that because it's not actually using commons? I might wrong though MaxSem ? awjr ? [20:22:39] kenanwang: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:MobileFrontend/Deployments/2013-09-04 [20:23:01] awjr: right one story card, one bug card, and some various smaller bugs/issues [20:23:35] jcmish, testwiki uploads to commons too [20:23:43] jcmish, awjr this shouldn't matter, it should work. now I see different things in different browsers again. on the same user account [20:23:54] jgonera, jcmish testwiki should be uploading to commons [20:24:03] jon just responded to one of my bugs. hurrah for him being alive post burning man [20:24:13] ah okay I always assumed that's why it's always so flkey [20:24:16] *flakey [20:24:28] jgonera, jcmish i just did an upload from Special:Uploads and it worked fine on testwiki (desktop chrome) [20:24:44] awjr, have you refreshed the page? is this a fresh user account? [20:24:49] awjr: I guess there are other bug cards that are set for deployment today but marked as waiting review in mingle. I assume that they have been reviewed? [20:25:00] jgonera: old account and i've refreshed [20:25:58] then I have no idea what's going on for me, Android Browser and Android Chrome showing the newly uploaded photo + a spinner, desktop Chrome showing an old photo [20:26:23] kenanwang: it looks like some of the story cards in mingle are not in the correct column [20:27:44] (03CR) 10Kaldari: [C: 032] Fix loading spinner page actions buttons [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82067 (owner: 10JGonera) [20:28:15] jcmish, kenanwang: i found 3 bugs on the mingle wall that were in 'awaiting final code review' but have actually been merged - i've moved them to ready for testing [20:28:18] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix loading spinner page actions buttons [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82067 (owner: 10JGonera) [20:28:27] aha~ [20:28:40] did we implement a campaign or did we just put in the infrastructure? [20:29:33] I just tested uploads on a different account and it worked... [20:29:39] it's unclear to me from the specific story card; Maryana might know ^^ [20:29:53] kenanwang, awjr: so, the way you can usually tell is by looking for &campaign= in the URL… but i'm not seeing it [20:30:29] in what URLs should we be seeing it, Maryana? [20:30:33] i'm guessing jon did the infrastructure bit but didn't actually do the second bullet point (track edit, upload, and watch campaigns) [20:30:38] (i dont know anything about campaigns) [20:30:56] when you land on the account creation screen from one of those features [20:31:02] deployed ^^^ [20:31:13] Maryana: it's possible the change in the Campaigns extension hasn't been deployed [20:31:28] looking over the code jon submitted, i *think* it should be tracking those things, but i dunno how this stuff works [20:31:44] hmm, ok [20:32:12] i dont think the Campaigns JS will load on mobile without the dependency deployed - lemme dig into that [20:32:21] the events should fire in Schema:ServerSideAccountCreation [20:34:34] kenanwang: so if you go to the ServerSideAccountCreation db in stat1 and filter for event_displayMobile = 1, you should start seeing campaigns in the most recent mobile account creations [20:34:49] don't see any yet, but that could be cos it's not deployed yet :) [20:35:07] k back from poking around haven't seen anything crazy and awjr I thought we deployed the dependency [20:35:19] and then we should see it work? or is there a different one? [20:35:25] it was at least merged jcmish but not sure about deployed; im looking inot that now [20:35:32] aha [20:35:37] k jgonera how goes it [20:35:52] are you seeing anything other than the weirdness around upload? [20:36:05] I'm going to try to recreate it too but wondered if there's anything else [20:36:32] a slight bug when the nag overlay can be seen in the background of the image description textarea, but it's not a blocker I think [20:37:18] jcmish, MaxSem, Maryana - the Campaigns change has not been deployed [20:37:36] ah [20:37:41] awjr, does it needs to be? [20:37:41] campaigns-related JS will not get loaded on the mobile site without it [20:37:42] mystery solved [20:38:10] MaxSem: it needs to be in order for the feature to work, but i do not think things will break on our end if it's not [20:38:18] i'm not 100% sure about that though [20:38:20] yeah, it's not critical [20:38:29] also, i have no idea if Campaigns is on the deployment train... [20:38:36] so if it's optional I'd rather not deploy it on our own [20:38:43] paging spagewmf [20:38:47] +1 [20:39:56] i just pinged spage in #wikimedia-dev [20:40:11] sweet, thank you :) [20:46:30] (03PS1) 10JGonera: Hide NagOverlay after checkboxes are checked [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82747 [20:47:38] spagewmf has yet to respond but if we're not seeing JS errors related to Campaigns stuff I think we can assume it's safe to deploy our related changes without the dependency and we can coordinate with S about getting Campaigns updated in prod [20:48:09] kenanwang, Maryana, jcmish, MaxSem ^ [20:48:34] ok, sounds good [20:48:59] awjr, per tools/release it uses the train [20:49:10] *thats* what i was looking for [20:49:39] where is that MaxSem? [20:49:39] does that mean it's safe? [20:49:54] :) never heard of the train :D [20:50:10] tools/release [20:50:25] * awjr scratches head [20:50:38] on tin/fenari somewhere or is that a repo"? [20:50:52] repo [20:50:59] ahha thanks MaxSem [20:52:05] okay, should we scap? [20:52:26] I'm good Maryana and kenanwang are [20:52:47] wait what happened with jgonera's upload issue? [20:53:07] awjr, I tried a different account and it worked but it's really mysterious... [20:53:20] anyway, I doubt it's because of today's deployment [20:53:36] hrmm.. doesn't sound like a blocker, but something to look into [20:53:41] maybe gadgets? [20:54:03] you don't have any weird gadgets enabled, do you? [20:54:17] (03CR) 10JGonera: "What would it check? I'd prefer some Jenkins job that would compress all the PNGs in a commit instead of Jenkins telling me "PNGs could be" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82105 (owner: 10MaxSem) [20:54:34] no gadgets [20:56:40] okidoke then, Maryana/kenanwang - scap? [20:56:56] do it :) [20:57:37] kenanwang, you ok to lead the charge on mobile/VE integration? [20:57:59] i've been in meetings all day and would be happy to take one off my plate :) [20:58:22] :( you don't love us Maryana [20:58:38] aww [20:58:46] i do, but i also like doing work sometimes! [20:58:53] and going home? [20:58:56] instead of, y'know, talking about doing work [20:59:06] :D [20:59:06] yeah, that's good, too [21:00:05] if it's safe, then I think we deploy the campaigns stuff [21:00:22] I'm off to a meeting, I'll keep irc open on my ipad [21:01:05] Maryana: Yes [21:01:54] scapping [21:03:29] w00t [21:24:02] awjr, jcmish, jgonera, Maryana - we're live, please test:) [21:24:44] on it MaxSem [21:24:48] w00t [21:27:38] campaign data is not being logged via eventlogging, sadly [21:30:17] why is there a margin between the ugly WLM banner and chrome? [21:32:53] that's how centralnotice works on MFE, i guess [21:33:07] and seriously, who designed that? it really looks like an ad, as StevenW said on mobile-l [21:33:15] yeahhh [21:33:31] at least the landing page is mobile friendlyish [21:33:36] probably Romaine or Mono (up on #wikilovesmonuments) [21:36:42] automation tests have passed [21:36:55] on to poling around [21:37:33] upload worked for me just fine in production [21:47:29] sweet jgonera and all looks good to me [21:47:46] Maryana: kenan [21:47:47] ? [21:47:59] lgtm [21:48:43] sweet awjr MaxSem we get to call it done! [21:48:43] :D [21:48:46] \o/ [21:48:51] weee [21:48:54] \0/ [21:48:58] all lgtm :) [21:49:19] opps sorry awjr I had you on the how's it look like next too kenan [21:49:28] but when i tabbed I blew it away :D [21:49:30] er eh wha? [21:50:26] I had a "hey Maryana, kenan and awjr how does it look" line then I took you off by mistake :D [21:50:32] oh lol [21:50:52] so just apologizing for skipping ya... i tried to autocorrect to kenan and deleted you :D [21:50:59] :) [21:59:43] VEMobile meeting adjorned. Notes at http://etherpad.wmflabs.org/pad/p/VEMobile [21:59:55] how'd the deployment go? [22:00:12] purdy good kaldari, nothing too exciting ): [22:00:14] damn it [22:00:17] i mean :) [22:00:25] i have dyslexic fingers [22:00:39] how was the meeting kaldari ? [22:00:40] it looks like a bucktooth smiley [22:00:52] Maryana: Hey will you join our product eng meeting [22:00:59] yes :) [22:01:23] meeting was good. There are definitely going to be some big obstacles to getting VE on mobile, but getting VE on tablet should be more doable in the short term [22:01:56] interesting does the realestate make it easier for a tablet over phone? [22:02:13] yes, that's one thing [22:02:29] also you're more likely to have a reliably persistant internet connection [22:03:11] according to James, section editing for VE isn't going to happen any time soon, which is a big roadblock for mobile handset use [22:03:17] ah yes very true I didn't think about that [22:05:04] jgonera, maxsem: If anyone has some cycles, could use review on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/82073/ [22:05:27] too much js for me [22:05:45] yeah, mostly js [22:06:00] kaldari, I think that's acceptable, we can conditionally load one editor or the other based on the screen size [22:06:47] kaldari: i have a theory that we could fake section editing by just dealing with a portion of the page…. we'll have to do a spike on it some time and see if that's completely insane :D [22:06:48] yeah, I think we'll probably be doing that for the time being [22:06:58] it would def have some limitations with things like numbering of references, obviously :( [22:07:49] brion: sounds like a promising idea, but maybe insane :) [22:07:54] haha [22:12:19] http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/153876 \o/ [22:12:30] webkit can finally draw regular SVGs to a canvas without tainting it [22:12:45] the web has arrived! [22:12:56] ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE WITH HTML5! [22:13:01] I dunno why nobody had made that yet [22:13:24] :) [22:17:01] ooooh http://www.chromestatus.com/features [22:18:40] (03CR) 10JGonera: [C: 04-1] "(4 comments)" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82073 (owner: 10Kaldari) [22:28:41] jgonera: Are you in beta mode in your local instance? [22:29:37] kaldari, in experimental. and I just noticed that JS doesn't work, even for the hamburger [22:31:25] jgonera: looks like there might be a webkit-JS error related to my logging code [22:31:46] I'm testing on desktop Chrome btw [22:32:00] yeah, I didn't notice since I was testing in Firefox [22:32:07] which doesn't care for some reason :P [22:35:21] heads up, if my SQL is correct we got 10.78K unique editors in the main namespace in August and we have 2.38K so far this month [22:35:36]