[00:03:20] (03PS2) 10Jdlrobson: Track anonymous clicks as well [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87478 [00:03:56] (03CR) 10Jdlrobson: "(1 comment)" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87478 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [00:04:18] for? [00:04:20] cloudbees? [00:04:39] (03PS3) 10Jdlrobson: Track anonymous clicks as well [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87478 [00:06:42] (03CR) 10Jdlrobson: "(1 comment)" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86715 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [00:07:10] (03CR) 10Kaldari: [C: 031] Fix infobox styling on larger resolutions [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86715 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [00:07:52] (03CR) 10Kaldari: [C: 032] Fix infobox styling on larger resolutions [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86715 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [00:08:19] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix infobox styling on larger resolutions [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86715 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [00:08:35] (03PS3) 10Jdlrobson: Card 1205 - last thanked info on UserProfile [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87440 (owner: 10MaxSem) [00:09:44] (03CR) 10MaxSem: [C: 04-1] "You reverted most of my changes factoring out MobileUserInfo: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/87440/1..3/includes/specials/SpecialUserP" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87440 (owner: 10MaxSem) [00:09:49] jdlrobson, ^^^ [00:10:07] MaxSem: okay let me fix this up and then feel free to retweak it [00:10:17] i had a rebase issue [00:10:21] that may have broken it :) [00:10:35] gimme 10 minutes to fix up remaining problems that i have control over then it's all yours again :) [00:10:49] and sorry :) [00:13:28] jgonera: I'm going to change all the instances of 'last modified' to 'last edited' per Vibha, but I'm going to leave the i18n keys as they are. That way they will just be 'fuzzied' instead of requiring completely new translation from scratch. [00:17:07] Dcoetzee: howdy [00:17:21] kaldari: Hi :-) [00:18:20] Any good content liberations lately? [00:19:03] Is that all I'm known for ;-) [00:19:45] No, not since the last Google Art Project uploads, which stirred up no animosity, despite the technical barriers that they placed to prevent it [00:19:45] well, that's my favorite thing :) [00:20:06] GAP is always adding new stuff, so I have to periodically revisit them and upload more stuff [00:20:14] I'm the only one who has the tools to circumvent their restrictions. [00:20:31] Or, if they've implemented new restrictions, I get to do more reverse engineering :-P [00:20:54] It's kind of funny, people often come to me and say "can you help with this batch upload from this website" [00:21:21] I wonder if they're just adding the restrictions at the insistance of the museums [00:21:21] And most of the time, I say "no" just because it's an easy and uninteresting case where there are no protections in place whatsoever [00:21:40] It's only fun for me when I'm facing technical challenges :-P [00:22:08] lol, you should figure out how to remove digital watermarks. Now that's a challenge [00:22:10] I have two theories, one is that it's the museums compelling them to do it [00:22:21] violetto: can you poke vibha and say that the user icon is not green it's grey [00:22:36] The other is that they do it to prevent everybody from using up tons of bandwidth downloading all their pics [00:22:45] ah true [00:22:51] Although, Google runs YouTube [00:23:06] So they don't exactly want for bandwidth [00:23:23] yeah, but they don't get to tack advertisements onto the Mona Lisa :) [00:23:27] I've looked into watermark removal a lot [00:23:43] Translucent watermarks are generally straightforward to remove - I automatically removed watermarks from the LIFE archive [00:24:11] removing Digimark marks is what I would love [00:24:12] Opaque watermarks can be removed with object removal techniques, but Photoshop's content-aware fill more or less represents the state-of-the-art in that area [00:24:29] Really? I'm kind of apathetic about Digimark marks [00:25:01] They're invisible and they can't actually do anything bad to you if they find you using it [00:25:10] they make the images feel tainted to me, but I guess that's a minor complaint [00:25:30] At worst they might mislead somebody who gets the image somewhere [00:25:38] And thinks their bogus claims in the watermark are true [00:26:27] In fact, we usually don't even remove bogus EXIF metadata [00:26:34] Partly because we're lazy :-P [00:26:59] Partly cause most people aren't gonna notice it's there [00:27:22] Partly cause it's useful sometimes to document their bogus claims [00:29:46] (03CR) 10Jdlrobson: "Templates do not depend on MobileFrontend JavaScript at all. If left in this form other extensions are able to make use of them simply by " [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86290 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [00:42:40] (03PS4) 10Jdlrobson: Card 1205 - last thanked info on UserProfile [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87440 (owner: 10MaxSem) [00:42:41] (03PS3) 10Jdlrobson: Tweak markup of edits and uploads text [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87474 [00:42:45] MaxSem: allyours ^ :) [00:43:48] w00t! [00:54:19] (03PS8) 10Jdlrobson: Hygiene: Allow MFResourceLoaderModule to handle templates and files [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86290 [00:54:20] (03PS2) 10Jdlrobson: Hygiene: Merge all special stylesheets into a single one [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87263 [00:56:35] jdlrobson, the edit section test is broken, the tutorial doesn't show [00:56:52] something is wrong with the target = window.location.hash + ' ~ .edit-page'; [00:56:52] selector I think [00:58:18] (03CR) 10Jdlrobson: [C: 04-1] "So Kaldari and I spoke about this." [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87263 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [00:58:32] qa test or qunit ? [00:58:52] on master? [00:59:12] anyway.. this will have to wait till tomorrow i need to go! [01:04:53] (03PS3) 10Kaldari: Preparing the LastModified code for Mingle cards 1262 and 1258 [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87298 [04:12:51] (03PS1) 10Mgrover: QA#1286 using an article that is on beta, test2 and en.m so changing from San Francisco to Barack Obama [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87504 [06:08:20] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 04-1] "(2 comments)" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87474 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [07:49:23] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 04-1] "(8 comments)" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87298 (owner: 10Kaldari) [08:08:14] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 04-1] "(13 comments)" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87440 (owner: 10MaxSem) [13:05:32] MaxSem: ping [13:06:35] pong [13:08:27] hey MaxSem, want to give some feedback on my new security model for zero? :) [13:08:59] MaxSem: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/86820/ [13:09:58] MaxSem: just take a look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/86820/2/includes/ConfigPageHooks.php [13:10:03] that's the gist of it [13:14:16] mmm, this might prevent innoculous actions like watching [13:14:53] eh, hi, just to confirm, is WAP dead or not [13:15:35] no [13:15:57] I'd really like to, but omg think of all those third world ppl [13:16:01] pls don't kill it - i have been using it extensivelly :) [13:16:04] so it still makes sense to have a bugzilla component for WAP mobile gateway [13:16:13] and in product Wikimedia [13:16:17] not in mobile ? [13:16:17] it's part of MF [13:16:21] ok [13:16:30] so no extra component needed [13:16:42] * MaxSem bites yurik_ [13:17:02] ah, ok, i'm gonna suggest that the bugmeister removes it then [13:17:03] i lost my phone, so i have been using $10 nokia i got in s africa. Works beautifully! [13:17:07] thanks Max [13:17:17] and wiki looks really useful from it, honest [13:17:27] although i'm not sure if it gets identified as wap or not [13:17:45] if you see the hamburger it's HTML [13:17:58] WAP looks like an ass [13:22:55] MaxSem: weird, i went to http://www.whatsmyuseragent.com/ and got Mozila/5 AppleWebKit/... (KHTML Google wireless transcoder) Chrome/.. Safari/.. [13:23:05] no mentioning of wap [13:23:28] i wonder if new nokias autotranslate to wap using google proxy [13:29:02] MaxSem: so is there a list of "ok" verbs? [13:29:06] actions [13:30:28] cya [13:32:27] umm, don't think so [13:32:45] mainly because what's ok for you might not be so for other uses [13:35:24] yurik_, so do you see whole article content at once or you have to use next/back link to go between sections? [13:35:32] not expand/collapse [13:35:54] MaxSem: what sections do you mean? [13:36:00] there are no sections on the zero page [13:36:21] it looks like https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Zero:250-99 [13:37:15] open WP;) [13:49:45] MaxSem: sorry, still confused a bit - there are no sections, and i haven't seen anything like next/prev section buttons anywhere on wp [13:52:17] MaxSem: i will search for other actions and make a list of "ok" ones [13:52:39] pls comment on that patch [13:52:44] if you think of anything else [13:52:47] have to go now [13:52:55] grr, sucks to not have 24x7 internet [13:53:00] working offline most of the time [14:21:12] (03PS1) 10Zfilipin: Moving shared code to mediawiki-selenium Ruby gem [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87563 [14:27:48] (03PS1) 10Zfilipin: Renamed tests/acceptance folder to tests/browser [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87565 [14:51:15] (03CR) 10Cmcmahon: [C: 032] QA#1286 using an article that is on beta, test2 and en.m so changing from San Francisco to Barack Obama [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87504 (owner: 10Mgrover) [14:51:44] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: QA#1286 using an article that is on beta, test2 and en.m so changing from San Francisco to Barack Obama [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87504 (owner: 10Mgrover) [15:40:35] * MaxSem bites jdlrobson [15:40:48] what did i do now? [15:41:17] dude, you made https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87440 not depend on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87434 [15:41:27] resulting in a total mess [15:41:57] mmmm that's confusing how did i manage that [15:41:59] sorry!! [15:42:02] * jdlrobson notices the time and decides to jump in shower so he makes standup [15:42:15] can you just merge the earlier commit? [15:42:53] then I can try to rebase it [15:45:08] MaxSem: let me try? [15:45:12] (fixing the depends) [15:45:25] YuviPanda, just merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87434 :) [15:45:40] I'll do the rest [15:46:05] it's pretty easy to review, just code moved from one class to another [15:46:15] 116 lines! [15:46:19] and more [15:46:22] don't think I can merge that :P [15:48:29] hmm, that already has a dependency ;( [15:50:14] MaxSem: i give up, too many conflicts [15:50:21] plus I forgot my wrist hurts [15:50:40] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87434 has no dependencies [15:52:42] MaxSem: i was trying to fix the dependency situation. but oh well, i'll merge [15:52:57] MaxSem: done [15:52:57] (03CR) 10Yuvipanda: [C: 032] "In Max we trust (plus looks like a copypaste job)" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87434 (owner: 10MaxSem) [15:53:04] thanks:) [15:53:22] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Factor out DB work out of UserProfile to separate UI from backend [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87434 (owner: 10MaxSem) [16:06:24] MaxSem: apologizes.. i see what i did - i cherry picked [16:06:29] and forgot to cherry pick the first [16:06:55] going to office now MaxSem sorry again and see you soon :) [16:57:07] jcmish: were you able to get the tests run on test2 yesterday? [16:57:26] yep just one that I'm changing now [16:57:33] the others are changed and checked in [16:57:36] cool [16:57:38] \o/ [16:57:40] yup [16:57:41] :D [16:57:47] sad that the export didn't work :D [16:57:54] i know :( [16:57:55] but it was easier to just change the tests [16:58:26] aye; and i know other teams use the barack obama article for similar purposes, so it's probably good for us to follow suit [16:58:38] yupper [17:10:41] and +2'd also btw, it's merged [17:12:02] export/import to these envs is one of those back-boiler things that will someday bubble to the top of Stuff To Figure Out, thanks for investigating that [17:12:46] chrismcmahon: I was bitten by it earlier today (reproducing production environment). I'm guessing that just importing all Template:* and Module:* should make most other things *very* easy [17:13:26] chrismcmahon: and was going to hack that up over the weekend, my wrist pain permitting. [17:13:30] chrismcmahon: think that'll be useful? [17:13:53] YuviPanda: the subject of new data to beta and test2 keeps coming up, but it hasn't yet been critical to anything in particular [17:14:08] chrismcmahon: right. [17:14:19] YuviPanda: it would definitely be worth knowing how to do it! [17:14:58] chrismcmahon: I was thinking of setting up a tool on toollabs that'll produce dumps every month or so, and that can be imported into any wiki with a single ocmmand [17:15:03] so they'll be like a month old, but that's ok [17:15:47] brion: am I in the wrong hangout? [17:15:55] YuviPanda: web is running over a little [17:15:57] ah [17:15:58] ok [17:15:59] YuviPanda: that would be pretty great. the flip side would be a tool that would actually remove data, images, etc. No one's ever done that before. [17:16:22] chrismcmahon: remove data, images from where? [17:16:36] but YuviPanda we would definitely use an automatic importer from time to time. [17:16:38] jdlrobson: you mentioned the qunit tests are failing again - sorry to cut you off but i didnt want to take time away from the apps standup [17:16:56] jdlrobson: i presume you can coordinate getitng to the bottom of it? [17:17:44] YuviPanda: remove pages, images, users, etc. so as to re-set a test environment to a previous state. (I realize that Mediawiki is not and never has been designed to do that, rather the opposite: nothing is ever deleted permanently) [17:18:17] awjr: yeh i'm trying to work it out as we speak [17:18:31] jgonera: do they fail for you? [17:18:35] wondering if it was a core change [17:18:42] seems to be mediawiki.tests.qunit.testrunner: [17:18:47] chrismcmahon: ah, hmm, right. [17:18:57] chrismcmahon: well, I use vagrant, so I can do that with a destroy / up :) [17:19:14] chrismcmahon: and since destroys are much cheaper now since the last week, it's quite nice [17:19:35] chrismcmahon: are you aware of https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Labs-vagrant [17:19:41] not the same as beta, of course [17:19:55] YuviPanda: vagrant is very cool, and getting nicer all the time [17:20:11] jdlrobson, when did they start failing for you? [17:20:17] last night [17:20:26] bizarrely if i checkout before the echo fix they work [17:20:41] Echo fix in MF? [17:21:04] git checkout 1b8f1fa781e99427e50c605cf37d6c154d4b982b 0 errors [17:21:18] "Various improvements to mobile notifications" seems to have broken it [17:21:41] jgonera: how do you guys call the section edit markup notice used in the beta test and is there any design documentation/screenshot on mediawiki.org? [17:22:01] * DarTar is creating a summary of the notes on the a/b test that we discussed yesterday [17:22:06] jdlrobson, yes, 2 tests fail for me [17:22:13] we have our first example of thank trolling in #wikimedia-dev [17:22:40] awjr: thanktrolling is real now [17:22:46] we've a user complaining of it in -dev :) [17:22:47] DarTar, the blue thing I didn't show you because of a regression? ;) [17:22:53] lol [17:22:54] awjr: thank trolling is real! [17:22:56] who knew! [17:22:58] omfg [17:23:01] yes that thing [17:23:02] SHIT [17:23:11] the spike didn't help!! [17:23:32] lol [17:23:43] i guess someone needs to come up with policy guidelines for thank trolling :( [17:23:44] DarTar, I don't think we have an up to date screenshot because design kind of evolved organically for this one. I can fix it today and take a screenshot [17:23:53] awjr: yeah! or add a userright [17:24:02] k cool [17:24:18] awjr: however, threatening someone with 'you can no longer thank people!' doesn't seem great [17:24:24] hehehehe [17:29:23] Maryana: there has been a heavy case of thank trolling in the Dutch Wikipedia, apparently :) people are discussing whether to block the troll or not... :) [17:29:34] haha [17:29:39] it was only a matter of time [17:29:43] indeed [17:29:48] AND THE TIME IS NOW! [17:29:49] it's all your fault!:P [17:30:04] indeed, if only awjr has allocated the time for the AI work... [17:30:21] blame product, man, they're the ones who set the priority [17:30:57] :) [17:31:02] :p [17:31:08] let's blame glusterfs [17:31:12] even better [17:31:25] :D [17:31:31] i still cant believe the foershadowed thankyoupocalypse is actually happening [17:31:47] I wonder what else is going to happen... [17:31:52] 13 hour spikes? [17:32:31] 23:02 Nemo_bis: COMBAT THE THANKS DEFLATION [17:32:36] this is hilarious [17:33:18] lol, and card 1205 will result in "Last thanked by You're asshole for edits on [[Penis]]" on user profile [17:34:05] *your [17:39:21] awjr: priorities are good [17:39:28] \o/ [17:39:29] thanks kenanwang [17:39:33] jdlrobson: hey when would you like to meet. now? [17:39:51] awjr: I've got 20 minutes to my next meeting [17:39:54] i think jdlrobson is resolving the thankyoupocalypse in #wikimedia-dev [17:39:55] kenanwang: we have a thank trolling incident [17:40:51] this is… hillarious [17:40:58] awjr: to say the least [17:40:59] :D [17:41:05] hahahahah [17:41:11] seriously? [17:41:16] kenanwang: yeah, seriously. [17:41:18] 23:02 Nemo_bis: COMBAT THE THANKS DEFLATION [17:41:24] awjr: when will we be getting the rollup of all contributions to http://mobile-reportcard.wmflabs.org/ ? [17:41:24] and similar puns flowing freely [17:41:34] kenanwang: although I think he meant THANKS INFLATION [17:41:45] is there a bug associated with this? [17:41:58] tfinc do you mean https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/mobile/cards/1261 ? [17:42:01] or something different? [17:42:06] kenanwang: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54983 [17:42:08] just started [17:42:27] ok jdlrobson my next meeting ends at 1130 your time [17:42:37] kenanwang: we can do it now [17:43:03] ok. I'll send you a hangout invite [17:44:11] tfinc: i guess that's not really a 'rollup of all contributions' - just folks who make > 5 edits/month on mobile. afaik we don't have any stories for a rollup of all contributions [17:44:22] I'm calling you jdlrobson [17:44:27] tfinc want to create a story or let me know specifically what you're looking for and i can create one? [17:44:42] kenanwang: just send me the link [17:44:44] not seeing it [17:44:44] on google hangout [17:45:39] jdlrobson: calendar invite sent [17:45:52] awjr: i'm happy to create a card and get it prioritized with kenan [17:45:58] cool tfinc [17:46:32] but first im going to head to walgreens and get a wrist strap as i'm hurting too :( must be sympathy pains for YuviPanda [17:46:40] tfinc: heh [17:46:43] oh no! [17:46:52] tfinc: the 'wrist strap' i got sold turns out to be more of a thumb strap... [17:46:59] i recommend the ace deluxe wrist thing with a splint [17:47:18] it's kind of annoying to type with, but it works. i especially recommend sleeping with it on [17:47:23] til the pain goes away [17:47:36] http://www.acebrand.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/AceBrand/Home/Products/Product-Catalog/?N=4304+3294605542+3294529207&rt=rud [17:47:57] hope walgreens has one [17:47:59] bbiab [17:48:40] i've seen and used cheaper varieties at walgreens, but the deluxe brace has some sort of antimicrobial magic to help keep it from getting super disgusting and stanky [17:55:40] awjr: nothing good at the one on the corner. i'm going to wait to find that one that you mentioned [17:55:43] brion: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/86691/ should be ready to go now [17:55:50] whee [17:55:59] mixin uses the old way [17:56:06] tfinc: i've noticed the walgreens in downtown SF tend to not be well stocked on that kinda stuff [17:56:25] ok [17:56:32] tfinc but yeah, i've been using those braces for the last decade - they've outlasted, been more comfortable, and gotten way less disgusting than others i've used [17:57:40] (03PS2) 10Jdlrobson: WIP Story 1072: KeepGoing CTA [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87426 [17:57:47] (03PS3) 10Jdlrobson: Story 1072 (1/2): KeepGoing CTA [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87426 [17:57:58] jdlrobson: card updated. [17:57:58] (03PS4) 10MaxSem: Tweak markup of edits and uploads text [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87474 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [17:58:01] thanks kenanwang [17:58:07] jdlrobson: let me know if it makes sense [17:58:34] ok got it [17:58:48] * jgonera going to the office [17:58:56] awesome [17:59:00] kenanwang: so no mention of actual edits just yet? i can check with DarTar / spage if we have that via Campaign extension [17:59:15] i'm not sure if all edits get logged with the query string [17:59:33] well the last line is "How many users go on from clicking on the CTA button the first time to successfully complete an edit." [18:00:00] what page are you guys referring to? [18:00:54] I'm creating subpages both for the tutorial a/b test and the CTA registration campaigns on Meta right now [18:01:20] awjr tfinc: should we call an emergency meeting over thank trolling? [18:01:43] * awjr facepalm [18:02:01] jdlrobson: not unless we have more then that one person [18:02:03] just block him [18:02:18] i dont see why this should be treated differently then editing [18:02:52] awjr: tfinc ok i've set my mental MobileFrontend advisory status from low threat to elevated threat [18:03:07] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Story 1072 (1/2): KeepGoing CTA [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87426 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [18:03:57] is that like, light green to mustard yellow? [18:04:08] (03CR) 10Brion VIBBER: [C: 04-1] "(1 comment)" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/86713 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [18:04:24] awjr: basically like this> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeland_Security_Advisory_System [18:05:13] awjr: hows this https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/mobile/cards/1288 ? [18:05:49] jdlrobson: you mean http://leftwingnutjob.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Homeland-Security-bullshit-advisory-system.jpg? [18:06:28] looks straightforward tfinc - let kenanwang know so we can get it prioritized [18:06:53] awjr: :) [18:08:50] awjr, are we all set for the train - should I switch MF deployment from production to master? [18:10:44] (03PS2) 10Brion VIBBER: Hygiene: Fix commented out test in MFResourceLoaderModuleTest.php [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87267 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [18:11:12] one sec MaxSem [18:13:22] (03CR) 10Brion VIBBER: [C: 032] "Eh, let's see what happens. :D" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87267 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [18:14:41] awjr: tfinc got it [18:15:10] tfinc: awjr I just chatted with james and rob from the VE team about embedding Rob into our team [18:15:26] they're on board for a timeline starting next sprint [18:15:30] jdlrobson, I think https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87474 is ready [18:15:40] giving us two sprints before india [18:16:02] kenanwang: for mobile VE? [18:16:06] hopefully we can look at a couple of pair programming sprints wrt VE on mobile [18:16:08] kenanwang: keep me informed about that. i'm really eager for this to happen a lot between teams [18:16:12] hello [18:16:23] specifically VE on minerva as a first experiment [18:16:42] that is exciting [18:16:43] awjr: let me know when robm starts showing up in meetings. i want to see how it goes [18:16:56] hi cortexA9 [18:17:04] greetings cortexA9 [18:17:05] hi MaxSem [18:17:07] awjr can we add him to our stand ups next week? [18:17:10] hi tfinc [18:17:14] kenanwang: if they want to start next sprint, robm should come to our planning meetings [18:17:24] and yes [18:17:27] our planning meetings [18:17:32] yes. he needs context on what were working before being thrown into the standup [18:17:48] kenanwang: sure; i'll add him as optional to the standups and obligatory for the review/kickoff meetings coming up [18:17:50] yeah we'll setup a meeting between him and I to go over the spring [18:17:55] sprint [18:18:05] kenanwang: can you loop me in on that so we can talk logistics, or should i do that with him separately? [18:18:15] and awjr can you setup a meeting with him to give him a quick overview of processes [18:18:19] kenanwang: invite me as optional so that so that i can listen in [18:18:29] yeah do you want to chat on the phone awjr? real quick? [18:18:34] tfinc: will do [18:18:34] yes kenanwang [18:18:39] 415.321.9935 [18:18:59] awjr: feel free invite me the process talk as well [18:19:06] you got it tfinc [18:19:40] one sec kenanwang [18:19:44] yep [18:21:05] kenanwang: left a msg [18:21:17] weird [18:21:21] it didn't go through? [18:21:24] what's your number? [18:22:38] hello YuviPanda [18:22:43] hi cortexA9 [18:24:28] YuviPanda: we can't do the feature on the app ? [18:24:41] YuviPanda: aboutthe wikipedians nearby [18:24:44] cortexA9: well, not right now [18:24:46] MaxSem awjr: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/87184/ should be an easy merge [18:24:56] cortexA9: we're starting a rewrite of the app starting at the end of the month [18:25:04] YuviPanda: ok [18:25:15] cortexA9: we'll consider features like this once we get the basic featuers (reading, writing, offline) outta the way :) [18:26:13] (03CR) 10MaxSem: [C: 032] Hygiene: Remove history less file [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87184 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [18:26:36] jdlrobson, not to mention that the .less was registered as a script:P [18:26:50] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Hygiene: Remove history less file [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87184 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [18:27:28] MaxSem: haha i didn't even notice that lolz [18:30:09] how do I reach Vibha on IRC? [18:30:17] DarTar: magic [18:30:17] so MaxSem RE the deployment train [18:30:26] DarTar use violetto as a medium [18:30:33] * DarTar starts the magic [18:30:37] she's our reliable bridge into the design world [18:30:42] yo violetto [18:30:43] my concern at this point is making sure that we're actually keeping master in a sane, deployable state [18:30:47] jdlrobson also ^^ [18:30:49] kaity hangs around in wikimedia-staff [18:31:07] we haven't been as careful about this previously [18:31:09] yo DarTar [18:31:43] what do you all think we can/should do to ensure that we're keeping master deployable so we can ride the train? [18:31:55] jdlrobson, MaxSem? ^ [18:31:58] mmm [18:32:15] awjr: more tests! [18:32:35] violetto: can I get access to the mobile design dropbox ? I'm looking for screenshots of the mobile registration CTAs (unless they are already on commons) [18:32:48] awjr: i'm sure there will be teething problems but i'm sure we will work them out through experience [18:32:51] i wouldn't worry too much [18:33:20] we just need to get into better habits of testing code before we merge or at least sanity checking the repository on a daily basis at the end of the day to check no new commits broke anything [18:33:22] jdlrobson, MaxSem are you guys confident about Just Doing It (™) then? [18:34:06] I'm not confident but I think we should try [18:34:10] lol [18:34:55] MaxSem: by when do we need to make changes and make the commitment to get on the train if we want to be on it for next week? [18:35:41] tweak make-deployment-branch before the cutoff on Monday [18:35:47] ie today [18:36:28] (03CR) 10Brion VIBBER: [C: 04-1] "(2 comments)" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87433 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [18:38:53] MaxSem, jdlrobson if you two are ok with Just Doing It, and michelle is ok with it, let's go for it - but let's wait til we get an OK from michelle [18:39:20] one nice thing about hte train is that the roll outs are staged, so we'll have time to cope with anything scary before it gets out to enwiki etc [18:52:47] tfinc: think you can poke leslie about the travel? should hopefully be able to get the booking done today [18:52:51] tfinc: leslie harms, not carr. [18:56:27] MaxSem: what's the latest time today you're willing to switch the deployment branch to master? [18:57:08]