[00:00:11] Echo notifications have to be written into the MediaWiki software itself, they aren't intended to be temporary. [00:01:24] Although obviously we could remove the code after 2 weeks [00:01:40] Or build it in a separate, new MediaWiki extension [00:01:49] but that seems like overkill [00:02:42] Editor surveys in the past have always been done through CentralNotice [00:03:08] hmm [00:03:09] ok [00:18:53] (03PS4) 10JGonera: Alpha: Make hamburger menu slide in/out when opened [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/88185 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [00:19:42] where'd kenan go? [00:20:13] does anybody know of the mobile editor survey is localized or only for English? [00:21:09] arg, I hate working remotely :P [00:21:56] (03PS4) 10JGonera: Make View's defaults inheritable and extendable [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90685 [00:22:08] (03CR) 10JGonera: [C: 032] Make View's defaults inheritable and extendable [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90685 (owner: 10JGonera) [00:22:53] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Make View's defaults inheritable and extendable [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90685 (owner: 10JGonera) [00:23:23] jgonera, jdlrobson: you guys seen kenan around? He disappeared from IRC and I'm blocked on some questions for him. [00:23:36] (03PS4) 10Jdlrobson: Add topics to the correct namespace [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90079 [00:24:47] kaldari, hwe was here a moment ago but I think he might have left early [00:24:56] arg [00:59:54] (03PS1) 10Jdlrobson: Hygiene: Cleanup handling of stylesheets in skins [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91106 [01:05:13] (03PS1) 10Mhurd: Gallery now remember previous album selection. [apps/ios/commons] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91109 [02:04:18] (03PS2) 10Mhurd: Gallery now remember previous album selection. [apps/ios/commons] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91109 [04:10:07] (03PS1) 10devunt: Fix incorrect value being passed in second argument of MobileContext::getMobileUrl() [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91123 [04:39:10] (03CR) 10Zfilipin: "This commit depends on another commit that was not merged into master yet, I guess that is the cause:" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87565 (owner: 10Zfilipin) [04:45:45] (03PS3) 10Zfilipin: Renamed tests/acceptance folder to tests/browser [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87565 [04:45:49] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Renamed tests/acceptance folder to tests/browser [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87565 (owner: 10Zfilipin) [07:39:30] (03CR) 10Yurik: [C: 032] Make mobileformat not change the output structure [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87252 (owner: 10MaxSem) [07:40:03] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Make mobileformat not change the output structure [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/87252 (owner: 10MaxSem) [13:26:18] (03PS2) 10Cmcmahon: QA#1211 External links and images test [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90862 (owner: 10Mgrover) [14:51:55] (03CR) 10Cmcmahon: [C: 032] QA#1211 External links and images test [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90862 (owner: 10Mgrover) [14:52:26] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: QA#1211 External links and images test [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90862 (owner: 10Mgrover) [17:00:11] (03PS1) 10MaxSem: Collect mobileview cache hit statistics [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91202 [17:03:28] keeping an eye on the apple announcements :D [17:12:10] brion: heya! i got the gallery remembering last album and defaulting into the camera roll the 1st time [17:12:23] awesome [17:17:02] brion: what have i missed on the apple live blog ? [17:17:16] not much so far tfinc [17:17:28] just reminded us that the iphone launch was wonderful [17:17:35] and blathering about OS X 10.9 improvements [17:17:52] yup. i'm all caught up on http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/22/apple-liveblog/ [17:19:14] in non-apple news, Firefox OS 1.1 phones launch in Brazil today :D [17:19:44] We got our first interview programming task back last night. If anyone wants to take a look at it: https://github.com/SunSurfer/mwtest1 [17:20:10] it's for https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Kaldari/Interview_task_1 [17:20:56] brion: nice. do we have page view stats for them ? [17:21:16] good question :) [17:23:00] tfinc: judging from the old stats from the last stats thread, we may need to update them to distinguish android firefox from firefox os [17:24:30] zero-cost 10.9 update, eh? [17:24:38] guess they finally realized their money comes from the hardware profit :) [17:24:39] brion: really? [17:24:48] yep [17:24:53] brion: nice [17:24:54] brion: oh wow. snow leopard is out today for free :) [17:25:05] tfinc: yay! [17:25:17] brion: i'm eager for multi screen support. we'll finally catch up to 1980's technology [17:25:26] yes it's much nicer in 10.9 [17:26:01] [ok i'm on the scrum of scrums call now, so switching from video to liveblog] [17:27:38] brion: 13 inch in pro with haswell :) [17:27:44] \o/ [17:27:48] or as we like to call it ... YuviPanda new machine [17:27:51] throw in 16G ram and i'll be very tempted myself [17:28:29] yessss thunderbolt 2 [17:28:34] that says "4k display support" to me [17:28:59] brion: whoa… that's cool [17:29:10] course we'll see if they ship a 4k display :P [17:29:15] and how expensive it is if they do [17:29:24] 1299 for base [17:29:28] not bad [17:29:32] that's 4G ram though [17:29:41] us mere mortals can survive just fine with that [17:30:00] i bumped my ubuntu vm up to 4G to compile firefox os, i need at LEAST 8 ;) [17:30:24] brion, mhurd & YuviPanda, what are our apps' current mobileview usage patterns? do we always request whole page? [17:30:38] i think we hit full page yes but would have to doublecheck [17:30:52] brion: is the worlds energy consumption to power you devices the primary cause of global warming ? [17:30:59] sorry yes :) [17:31:16] YuviPanda: i'm on hangout. ready when you are [17:33:37] i'm dropping off of our hangout. msg me if you get back [17:33:42] brion, I'm asking because the API currently tidies every section's HTML, resulting e.g. in tags that span across sections being closed - I want to assess whether it's desireable [17:33:49] ahh [17:33:54] MaxSem: i'll check after this meeting [17:34:03] thanks:) [17:34:23] but i _think_ we pull all sections at once [17:34:59] ooh hdmi 1.4 too on the new mac pro [17:35:31] brion: 3x 4k displays possible on the new darth vader mac [17:35:46] if only i weren't buying a house this year [17:35:49] brion: think of all those pixels brion [17:36:12] brion: i expect you to line your new house with 4k displays [17:36:17] lol [17:36:37] brion: in fact you wont need windows if you put in a 4k display [17:36:40] its just as good [17:36:46] :D [17:37:30] starting price $2999 for the mac pro.... i'll wait on that one [17:38:28] 3.7GHz quad core. thats absurd. [17:38:36] that's a lot of hertz [17:39:14] w00t - we have a user with 700+ mobile ns0 edits and less than 5 on desktop [17:39:24] brion: potential increased api requests with rebuild of app [17:39:24] You can get a 3.5 GHz Intel i7 which turbos to 3.9 GHz for $319.99 [17:39:26] in the last 30 days [17:40:12] DarTar: very interesting [17:40:19] lets interview him [17:40:44] unless it's brion's sock [17:41:04] tfinc: true true lemme add that on the etherpad [17:41:41] damn, no retina MBAs [17:49:23] tfinc: sorry, power loss and i had forgotten to charge anything [17:49:31] tfinc: just got back [17:49:38] tfinc: wanna hangout? or too late? [17:50:05] YuviPanda: too late for me to do over hangout as i have something @ 11 [17:50:17] tfinc: ok, quick check in on IRC? [17:50:22] i can do async over irc though [17:50:27] tfinc: ok [17:50:29] tfinc: pming [17:54:49] MaxSem: ok it looks like we either fetch the whole page, or we fetch the section info and then we fetch all the sections together [17:54:58] i don't believe we fetch individual sections otherwise [17:55:25] brion, so what would change if we didn't tidy the sections? [17:55:51] MaxSem: um, we might end up inserting invalid html into the document? :D [17:56:02] nope [17:56:06] oh yay [17:56:18] unless you're retrieving separate sections [17:56:43] in which case you can get an unclosed iv or something [17:56:52] s/iv/div/ [18:00:20] gotta run errands, back in a few [18:07:38] iPad Air .... [18:08:55] @_@ [18:15:14] * MaxSem pours some RMS-blessed water on tfinc [18:16:22] MaxSem: does it have toenail fragments [18:17:13] mhurd: brion : retina iPad Mini :) [18:17:21] tfinc: yay! [18:18:07] we'll be adding one to our testing devices [18:18:38] $399 :) [18:20:43] tfinc: brion mhurd if I can't find a shipping X240 or XPS 15 haswell when I'm there, I'll probably just get the mbp [18:20:44] * YuviPanda sighs [18:20:52] * YuviPanda waits for tfinc to say 'I told you so!' [18:20:53] lol MaxSem [18:21:09] * tfinc smiles and only wants the best for YuviPanda [18:22:11] tfinc: heh :D [18:24:05] YuviPanda, is your old Air so dead? [18:24:21] MaxSem: battery life is ~2h, and a compile cycle is about 20s [18:24:42] MaxSem: and if I have vbox, phpstorm, browser and intellij on at the same time, then switching between applications itself takes seconds [18:25:01] you need a webscal laptop [18:25:28] Reedy, Mongo-powered? [18:30:51] YuviPanda, just replace phpstorm and intellij with vim/sublime and I'm sure your battery life will be back to 5h [18:31:06] jgonera: I was on Vim for like, years. Until a month ago [18:31:20] jgonera: phpstorm with ideavim is a good substitute [18:31:31] jgonera, ever heard of cool things real IDEs do? :P [18:32:25] I tried using Borland's and Microsoft's IDEs back in the days but wasn't really impressed [18:34:25] you're too young to remeber anything good by Borland and M$VS is a nice thing actually (though ReSharper and DotTrace are still a must) [18:37:56] Visual Studio is great [18:38:43] +1 [18:39:04] it depends on what you're doing, I find most IDEs an overkill for web apps, unless they're written in Java [18:39:18] PHPStorm still lets me use the best features of Vim. text objects work, for example! [18:55:25] tfinc: \o/ yay retina ipad mini! [18:56:00] that and the new nexus 7 will be on my to-buy list in a couple more months i guess [18:56:02] maybe for xmas ;) [18:56:28] no need to upgrade the rMBP yet [18:56:45] brion: uncommon restraint! [18:57:04] i gotta pace myself :) [18:57:22] haha no gold iPad ;) [19:03:00] so i was disappointed that they didn't announce a retina thunderbolt display [19:03:04] but, not too surprised [19:03:13] brion: heh [19:03:15] maybe once the mac pro actually hits market [19:03:18] MaxSem: how do config changes get merged these days? [19:04:33] the dependency was added but not the config change which is bad right? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/90451/ [19:04:56] ^ MaxSem brion ? [19:04:59] ok, the 13" rMBP you can now get in 16GB ram version \o/ [19:05:03] but only dual core [19:05:11] eww [19:05:43] 15" is quad-core, and it's still reasonably light for a big laptop [19:05:45] jdlrobson: :( [19:05:54] jdlrobson, will older versions of MF work with that change? [19:06:02] they just won't log.. [19:06:14] yeah i'm not sure who's supposed to touch config changes, i get worried when they show up :D [19:06:40] the thing that's messed up is now the editing schema is different for mediawiki and enwiki [19:06:41] ( cc jgonera ^) [19:07:02] which i guess will effect our graphs? [19:08:21] (03CR) 10Jdlrobson: [C: 032] Alpha: Make hamburger menu slide in/out when opened [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/88185 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [19:09:01] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Alpha: Make hamburger menu slide in/out when opened [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/88185 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [19:09:25] (03CR) 10Jdlrobson: [C: 031] "Someone else free to +2 if you can confirm this does what it claims to. I'm not sure how to test." [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91202 (owner: 10MaxSem) [19:09:39] MaxSem: brion awjr any ideas? [19:10:05] jdlrobson: so... i guess that has to be merged before deploy? or during deploy? [19:10:07] * brion hmms [19:10:24] brion: i'm not sure how this works on the cluster [19:10:40] are their two configs or only one shared between both the wmf branches? [19:10:46] jdlrobson: im not sure i understand what the problem is after looking quickly over backscroll - can you briefly summarize? [19:10:47] *are there [19:10:55] hm i think it's just one config, but i could be wrong [19:10:58] jdlrobson, we can add Reedy as a reviewer as a sign that he can deploy it in his next config spree [19:11:01] is just one config afaik [19:11:03] awjr: so basically jgonera updated the EventLogging editing schema and upped the revision number. [19:11:09] it hasn't been merged yet [19:11:24] but now we have code in master that uses the new schema and code deployed on certain wikis which uses the old schema [19:11:31] oh i see [19:11:36] and the schema are incompatible? [19:11:40] how can we ensure code about to be deployed and code that was deployed logs correctly [19:12:03] awjr: it's a good question - let me see what changed - jgonera would know best [19:12:08] i guess that depends on the schema, right? [19:12:10] kk [19:12:12] if it's an optional field we are okay [19:12:32] no it's required.. [19:12:46] so basically when this gets merged everything on the old code will not log anything [19:12:56] will there be errors or is silent? [19:13:04] silent but our graphs will suffer [19:13:09] we will see a drop in edits [19:13:12] is it easy to backport a fix? [19:13:20] we could make this field optional [19:13:29] really i need to hear from jgonera to know if this is acceptable though [19:13:44] (i'm also confused if it's been deployed yet) [19:14:04] if Change-Id: I0323a6ae739515bc3157114eac40c62ecf66823f was merged we should really merge a schema change asap [19:14:18] ok, yeah from what im hearing if we can make the field optional and that will not negativey affect metrics, that is the easiest/safest choice; otherwise we may need to backport a fix and deploy it during lightning deploy [19:14:50] jdlrobson: looks like I0323a6ae739515bc3157114eac40c62ecf66823f was merged ysterday, so it will go out to the testwikis on thursday [19:15:04] brb need to check something with ori [19:19:46] ok this is what ori has suggested... [19:20:05] 1) Move all schema declarations from config.php into MobileFrontend [19:20:31] 2) Cherry pick this change into old branch wmf21 [19:20:32] MaxSem: awjr any problems with this approach? [19:21:09] we need to do the cherry pick at the time of deployment on Thursday to ensure no data is lost [19:21:54] or we can cherry pick to both branches and remove schema declarations from config today [19:21:58] i'll write an email to mobile-tech [19:22:07] jdlrobson: by 'cherrypick' you mean backport? [19:22:39] jdlrobson, sounds good to me [19:22:41] im not thrilled about moving schema defintions into MobileFrontend since they're WMF-specific [19:26:11] they'll be just ignored outside of WMF [19:26:15] mail sent [19:26:33] awjr: as long as event logging extension is not setup they will not be logged [19:26:40] you may need to set a flag that makes use of them [19:26:54] please take the conversation into that mail :) [19:27:31] will do; gotta run. hasta pronto! [19:30:33] sorry, I was afk for a moment [19:30:37] let me read through it [19:34:41] jdlrobson, so I'll just add that the schema added a new required field called funnel. but it wouldn't work anyway AFAIK because if you specify the schema ID, then only the schema with this particular ID will be accepted by EL [19:34:53] jgonera: please write on the email :) [19:37:17] iOS 7.0.3 - "- Adds back the ability to search the web and Wikipedia from Spotlight search " brion YuviPanda monty [19:37:41] woohoo [19:38:30] nice! [19:38:46] brion: can you confirm how well it works ? [19:38:56] downloading it now :D [19:39:32] * tfinc starts downloading maverick  [19:39:57] mhurd: no xcode update [19:40:25] tfinc: ah! good :) [19:41:25] depends, did you already install Xcode 5.0.1? :P :) [19:45:11] mhurd: are you already on iOS 7.0.3 ? [19:45:22] tfinc: not sure… lemme check [19:45:48] tfinc: nope. did that just come out today ? [19:46:04] mhurd: yes [19:46:18] and it "Adds back the ability to search the web and Wikipedia from Spotlight search " [19:46:22] brion, so what's your stance on sections tidy? [19:46:57] MaxSem: i'm not sure i understand what the implications of the difference are, if there's not a possibility of ending up with invalid html at section boundaries? [19:47:42] yeah, and I was asking if something will break in apps [19:48:35] brion: http://www.macrumors.com/2013/10/21/websites-begin-supporting-safari-push-notifications-ahead-of-mavericks-launch/ would be interesting for echo [19:48:53] oooooh [19:48:56] \o/ [19:50:16] that would be a fun side project for a hackathon [19:59:23] tfinc: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/File:IOS_7-0-3_search_update_screenshot.jpg [19:59:45] tapping those pops up google search or wikipedia page in safari [19:59:56] i guess it's more exciting when there's local search results too :D [20:00:27] brion: and what happens when you tap the 'search wikipedia' safari or a built in search experience ? [20:00:46] arg. wifi cycled and i have to re-download maverick [20:01:01] safari. [20:01:19] if you want the built-in wikipedia result formatting you gotta go through siri voice commands [20:03:06] k [20:07:35] (03PS1) 10Mhurd: Found and fixed a crashing bug related to failed download requests. [apps/ios/commons] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91288 [20:07:52] brion: ^ [20:07:56] brion: yay! [20:15:42] brion: thinking of getting the 15" new MBP. Thoughts? [20:15:54] brion: with the dedicated graphics, since otherwise scrolling sucks [20:16:11] YuviPanda: i love mine; the new model should be noticeably snappier [20:16:15] hehe [20:16:21] brion: yours is 15"? [20:16:23] yeah [20:16:32] they didn't have the 13" yet when i ordered it [20:16:35] brion: heh, okay [20:16:42] brion: can you comfortably carry that in one hand? [20:16:51] it's the weight of two airs i guess [20:17:05] it's the lightest non-"air"/"ultra book"/"netbook" laptop i've ever had [20:17:15] pretty comfy carrying it in one hand, as laptops go :) [20:17:25] heh, yeah [20:17:44] brion: did they not have the 13 before today? [20:17:59] mhurd: oh no they've had it for a while, but it took a few months after the original 15" retina came out [20:18:06] brion: ah [20:18:11] plus, it has slower GPU [20:18:16] (and still does) [20:18:43] brion: base 15" now has no GPU [20:18:52] boo [20:19:25] i'll have to read up on the new 'iris' integrated gpu, see how it stacks up against the older 'hd 5000' [20:19:31] but i can't imagine it's as good as the nvidia [20:19:42] yeah get the good model :D [20:20:33] https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/specs-retina/ <- yeah 2.02kg for the new model, not bad at all [20:20:52] brion: 15"? [20:20:58] yeah [20:21:05] brion: wow [20:21:19] brion: oh, have a couple minutes for review later today? [20:21:26] mhurd: yes i'll catch up shortly :D [20:21:32] brion: yay! [20:21:48] YuviPanda: the double thunderbolt outs is really nice too; you can either hook up multiple monitors, or a monitor *and* a fast ethernet, etc [20:22:06] brion: yeah! 2 external monitors would be sweet [20:22:13] it is :D [20:22:25] brion: i could even do 1 out of thunderbolt (with an adapter, of course!) and one out of the hDMI [20:22:31] yep! [20:22:49] i'm not sure if it'll run two on thunderbolt *and* one on hdmi.... specs don't say yes, and i've never had enough monitors set up to try it ;) [20:23:03] but two on thunderbolt, or one on thunderbolt and one on hdmi, definitely works [20:23:10] plus the internal screen :D [20:23:24] mhurd: ok pulling up gerrit [20:23:37] brion: activate the device! [20:23:42] hmm. ENOTENOUGHSODA brb [20:25:31] brion: also, how much battery did you get out of the old one? [20:26:08] i haven't done specific hourly measurements, but it's been good enough generally [20:26:15] it does eat a little more power than the smaller machines though [20:26:30] should be improved thanks to has well & 10.9 too [20:26:34] brion: yeah [20:26:34] on the new one [20:26:50] brion: hmm, so if tfinc approves it, i guess I can just leave my old laptop here, and just pick the new one up when I hit the office [20:26:54] if OIT can get it done this week [20:26:58] if not, i can bring both of mine [20:27:04] (03CR) 10Brion VIBBER: [C: 032 V: 032] "good catch!" [apps/ios/commons] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91288 (owner: 10Mhurd) [20:27:11] might be a slight problem bringing it back via customs, but mostly shouldn't be [20:27:57] YuviPanda: store page says ready to ship in 24 hrs, but not available for in-store pickup yet. should be able to get you one somehow while you're here :D [20:28:12] yeah just tell customs your laptop ate too much and got fat on your trip [20:28:26] "it's just a thick macbook air" [20:29:20] YuviPanda: can you do a final pass on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/89339/ ? thanks! [20:29:59] brion: ah, right. doing now [20:30:36] enforced 5min break, brb [20:31:03] ok [20:36:25] BACK [20:36:26] back [20:39:31] (03CR) 10Brion VIBBER: [C: 032 V: 032] "Seems to work, looks ok. Yay!" [apps/ios/commons] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91109 (owner: 10Mhurd) [20:43:28] greg-g: where do we keep docs on the deployment train ? which day to expect and such [20:44:03] tfinc: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.22/Roadmap [20:44:12] that's what I use [20:45:02] thanks YuviPanda [20:45:18] i searched for 'deployment train' and couldn't find anything [20:45:18] yw [20:45:29] greg-g: if were going to call it that we should have some search terms that match it [20:46:18] make a redirect :D [20:47:11] brion: okay, wfm. The rotate crash is unrelated to that patch, IIRC, so let me merge unless you want to make more changes... [20:47:25] yeah that's separate [20:47:27] go ahead [20:47:30] whee :D [20:47:57] (03CR) 10Yuvipanda: [C: 032 V: 032] "Works as advertised!" [apps/android/commons] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89339 (owner: 10Brion VIBBER) [20:47:59] brion: ^ [20:48:06] whee ;D [20:48:07] thaks [20:48:09] *thanks [20:48:26] that that brion https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Deployment_Train&redirect=no [20:48:28] take* [20:48:37] woot [20:50:35] YuviPanda: on the rotate crash https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/90637/ were you going to poke further on that or was i? [20:51:02] brion: you, I think. I was going to fixup other campaign stuff, for final push tomorrow [20:51:13] ok sounds good, i'll poke at that today [20:51:25] ok [20:52:07] and... build-time disable of campaigns is done, lemme move that card over [20:52:40] ok cards updated on trello [20:53:45] brion: hmm, so I'm thinking I'll just add a 'refresh' button to the campaigns view, and be done with it [20:53:48] brion: for now, since it is beta and all [20:53:52] yeah that'll be fine [20:54:01] so people can still follow progress in the main box [20:54:12] brion: sweet [20:57:13] YuviPanda: brion: mhurd: checking in on any launch blockers for tomorrows code cut off at noon and release in the afternoon [20:57:40] nope. there's just one (a crash) that brion is investigating. [20:57:43] i'm just tidying up [20:57:47] tfinc: iOS side's looking good that i can see; just the one crash on android [20:58:22] were looking pretty good on the story wall [20:58:24] good job all [20:58:32] :D [20:58:41] YuviPanda: we need to get this in https://trello.com/c/dVeWwX04/100-5-android-let-people-upload-things-to-the-campaign-they-are-currently-looking-at [20:58:59] tfinc: yup, if you look at the checklist I'm working on the last part. everything else has been merged [20:59:15] yup. any blockers on that ? [20:59:20] nope [20:59:22] that checklist really helps me know where your at [20:59:29] yeah, to me too [21:00:00] YuviPanda: so we'll get that card in before the code cut off tomorrow ? [21:00:52] tfinc: yup. will finish that up before i go to slepe [21:00:52] *sleep [21:03:25] great [21:03:41] brion: can you prioritize that code review when it comes in? [21:03:53] tfinc: will do [21:03:54] it's not as user friendly as i'd like it to be, but meh, beta [21:03:59] beta \o/ [21:04:08] YuviPanda: and https://trello.com/c/MHyk8sUu/87-8-add-gui-editing-interface-for-editing-campaign-specification is great to leave to the end of the sprint [21:04:35] tfinc: indeed, hence I hadn't picked it up early on :) [21:05:44] tfinc: the other android card left, (https://trello.com/c/kXPlgG6w/110-3-accounts-bug-41704-commons-app-doesn-t-handle-changed-login-passwords-properly), me and brion talked about it, and it's harder than we initially thought. I'll leave some notes on it in a bit [21:07:35] l [21:07:36] k [21:08:22] tfinc: also, I'm going to email OIT with link to which laptop to buy. 15" MBP, guess that's okay with you? [21:08:35] do it and cc me [21:09:02] tfinc: sweet [21:12:26] tfinc: done [21:41:11] T-Mobile will offer both the new iPad Air and iPad Mini with Retina Display, along with 200 MB free data per month cnet.co/1a4QD5q [21:41:16] 200MB DATA!?!?!! [21:41:37] enough to go to their website and upgrade perhaps [21:42:57] It doesn't come with free Wikipedia access either [21:43:00] /sadface [21:43:12] Reedy: move to a 3rd world countryt [21:44:07] My carrier didn't even reply [21:44:09] bastards [22:17:11] (03PS8) 10MaxSem: Beta: Add Special:History [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89283 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [22:17:29] (03CR) 10MaxSem: "Still a WIP." [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89283 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [22:31:39] MaxSem: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91123 [22:34:23] tfinc: back [22:34:43] sorry, got stuck in bad traffic [22:35:20] (03CR) 10MaxSem: [C: 032] Fix incorrect value being passed in second argument of MobileContext::getMobileUrl() [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91123 (owner: 10devunt) [22:35:50] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix incorrect value being passed in second argument of MobileContext::getMobileUrl() [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91123 (owner: 10devunt) [22:37:52] jgonera: are you looking at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89137? [22:39:41] (03CR) 10Yurik: [C: 04-1] "(2 comments)" [extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90270 (owner: 10Dr0ptp4kt) [22:39:44] anybody upgrade to mavericks yet? [22:40:33] awjr: been running it for ~3 days [22:40:46] what do you think YuviPanda? [22:41:13] awjr: i'm yet to notice any difference, except my ExFAT external hard drives actually work :P [22:41:17] besides performance stuff the only thing that sounds exciting to me is better multi-display support (finally full screen on any display!) [22:41:17] thanks MaxSem [22:41:18] ha [22:42:07] awjr: anyone i need to chase to get https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/91058/1 merged? [22:42:40] i can push it along jdlrobson after this mtg [22:42:46] k thanks awjr [22:42:48] :) [22:43:20] jgonera: kaldari could you make sure https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90079, https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90072, https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/89362 get reviewed today so we can get those in for the thursday deploy? [22:43:35] i'm going to grab kaity in a bit to talk about https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90930 [22:43:36] I'll try to [22:44:13] also MaxSem what's the state of https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/80324 and https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/82050 can we abandon it? merge it? i don't like patches sitting around without being merged [22:44:52] I'll take a look at the first one [22:45:09] the second is waiting for WAP to die [22:55:04] jdlrobson, sure, I just need to eat something and I'll have a look at it [22:56:01] MaxSem: waiting for WAP to die isn't that like waiting for godot or pushing the button in lost? [22:56:30] haven't watched Lost [22:56:39] abandoning it doesn't lose it forever just gets it out of people's way... [23:23:06] (03PS1) 10Jdlrobson: Hygiene: Remove LESS comment [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91317 [23:23:07] (03PS1) 10Jdlrobson: Add polyfill / FIXME notice [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91318 [23:23:17] (03PS2) 10Jdlrobson: Add polyfill / FIXME notice [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91318 [23:27:11] (03CR) 10JGonera: [C: 032] Hygiene: Remove LESS comment [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91317 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [23:27:41] (03PS3) 10JGonera: Hygiene: Add polyfill / FIXME notice [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91318 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [23:27:52] (03CR) 10JGonera: [C: 032] Hygiene: Deprecate polyfills.js [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91318 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [23:30:10] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Hygiene: Remove LESS comment [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91317 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [23:31:27] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Hygiene: Deprecate polyfills.js [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/91318 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [23:37:52] (03CR) 10JGonera: [C: 032] Add topics to the correct namespace [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90079 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [23:38:29] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add topics to the correct namespace [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/90079 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [23:43:40] DarTar: hi could you help me with two numbers? [23:43:50] DarTar: revert rates for first time mobile edits [23:44:01] and average byte counts of first time mobile edits [23:45:44] hmm and having trouble getting mobile registrations per day [23:50:06] awjr: the other bit that i've been thinking about is what materials to prep for mon and tues [23:50:54] tfinc: yeah, you probably won't need too much and most of what you might want you can probably reuse [23:50:57] from elsewhere [23:51:07] thats what i was thinking too [23:53:53] tfinc: in fact i bet you could just copy slides directly from what we did with flow for the pertinent bits