[00:00:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Brion VIBBER: "Note that it crashes a little more often on an older Galaxy Nexus, so we'll definitely need this fixed proper before we roll out on older " [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/103344 (owner: 10Yuvipanda)
[00:00:33] <yuvipanda>	 brion: I'll think of something else, I guess.
[00:00:37] <brion>	 bah
[00:00:44] <yuvipanda>	 brion: how's the quickreturn smoothness?
[00:01:05] <brion>	 yuvipanda: silky smooth
[00:01:13] <yuvipanda>	 brion: woohoo! :D
[00:01:15] <brion>	 way cooler than anything in the old app already :D
[00:01:15] <yuvipanda>	 brion: even with flings?
[00:01:19] <yuvipanda>	 brion: and super long apps?
[00:01:25] <yuvipanda>	 brion: well, old app's beta also had this :P
[00:01:31] <yuvipanda>	 brion: but it faded out
[00:01:39] <yuvipanda>	 and was, of course, buggy on certain devices
[00:01:41] <brion>	 hehe
[00:03:09] <brion>	 yuvipanda: yeah i haven't found a scenario that looks choppy yet :D
[00:03:26] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Jdlrobson: KeepGoing tweaks [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/103508 
[00:03:30] <yuvipanda>	 brion: woo!
[00:03:36] <brion>	 ok lemme try that next commit with the state forcing
[00:03:38] <yuvipanda>	 brion: poor 2.3 users :D
[00:03:44] <brion>	 hehe
[00:04:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Jdlrobson: Regression: bring back fixed headers in overlays [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/103368 (owner: 10JGonera)
[00:05:25] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jdlrobson: [C: 032] Regression: bring back fixed headers in overlays [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/103368 (owner: 10JGonera)
[00:05:42] <brion>	 nice
[00:05:43] <yuvipanda>	 mhurd: brion the prop=thumb API patch is available on enwiki now, btw. So you can get the thumb info with the initial request itself :)
[00:05:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Regression: bring back fixed headers in overlays [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/103368 (owner: 10JGonera)
[00:06:00] <brion>	 yuvipanda: feels very natural, i like the updated quick return with state enforcement :D
[00:06:03] <brion>	 ah awesommeeeee
[00:06:06] <yuvipanda>	 :D
[00:06:13] <mhurd>	 yuvipanda: no way!!!
[00:06:16] <yuvipanda>	 brion: yeah, and also waits for a while before it disappears
[00:06:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Brion VIBBER: [C: 032 V: 032] "works very nicely :D" [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/103509 (owner: 10Yuvipanda)
[00:06:33] <yuvipanda>	 brion: I don't notice it unless I'm looking for it, because by then my eyes are halfway down the page
[00:06:34] <yuvipanda>	 mhurd: :D
[00:06:38] <brion>	 heh
[00:06:39] <yuvipanda>	 mhurd: one less request!
[00:06:44] <mhurd>	 yuvipanda: YES!!!!
[00:06:52] <yuvipanda>	 mhurd: there's prop=image and prop=thumb, check it out
[00:07:01] <mhurd>	 yuvipanda: k
[00:07:03] <brion>	 sweeeeeet
[00:07:05] <yuvipanda>	 mhurd: this means we can do the 'header image' thing may had in her mockups
[00:07:21] <brion>	 oooooooh that's gonna be awesome
[00:07:27] <brion>	 i'm looking forward to pretty pictures
[00:07:27] <yuvipanda>	 brion: I'm also going to move the infobox to right after the *first paragraph*, rather than entire lead section
[00:07:47] <yuvipanda>	 brion: wait till the ImageFilter controversy rises back from the dead...
[00:07:48] <yuvipanda>	 :D
[00:07:51] <brion>	 lol
[00:07:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10JGonera: [C: 04-1] "* Not enough margin between "This article needs your help!" and the button." (031 comment) [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/102043 (owner: 10Jdlrobson)
[00:08:00] <yuvipanda>	 brion: I also wonder if Apple will bring that up again :D
[00:08:04] <brion>	 until then, just ..... don't demo certain terms *cough*
[00:08:18] <mhurd>	 yuvipanda: sweet! i need to update that and point to the css stuff u did
[00:08:19] <yuvipanda>	 brion: well, it's probably not 'too soon!' for Adolf Hitler
[00:08:21] <yuvipanda>	 so that's fine
[00:08:24] <brion>	 lol
[00:08:25] <yuvipanda>	 mhurd: yeah
[00:08:43] <yuvipanda>	 mhurd: remember the CSS stuff there is only temp. eventually you'll get a blob from a server that will need periodic refreshing
[00:08:44] <mhurd>	 yuvipanda: both in android repo now?
[00:08:46] <yuvipanda>	 but for now, yeah, it works :)
[00:08:51] <mhurd>	 yuvipanda: k
[00:08:53] <yuvipanda>	 mhurd: the CSS stuff?
[00:08:59] <yuvipanda>	 mhurd: CSS stuff is in the android repo, yeah
[00:09:04] <yuvipanda>	 mhurd: JS and CSS bits.
[00:09:14] <yuvipanda>	 mhurd: wikipedia/assets/*
[00:09:22] <mhurd>	 yuvipanda: awesome thanks!
[00:09:26] <brion>	 yeah feel free to just copy the files for now :D
[00:09:27] <yuvipanda>	 mhurd: yw!
[00:09:30] <yuvipanda>	 yup
[00:09:39] <mhurd>	 yuvipanda: brion k
[00:09:49] <yuvipanda>	 brion: mhurd I don't think JS will be *completely* reusable
[00:09:52] <yuvipanda>	 although we can reuse bits
[00:09:59] <yuvipanda>	 CSS should be fully reusable
[00:10:04] <brion>	 yeah
[00:10:09] <brion>	 the JS bits have been slightly different
[00:10:12] <brion>	 but CSS is easy drop-in
[00:10:18] <mhurd>	 woohoo!
[00:10:22] <yuvipanda>	 brion: so the idea is to build the CSS out of LESS bits via RL
[00:10:24] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Kaldari: [C: 032] KeepGoing tweaks [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/103508 (owner: 10Jdlrobson)
[00:10:30] <brion>	 +1
[00:10:33] <jgonera>	 jdlrobson, kaldari I'm going to bed now. tomorrow I'll mostly work EU hours but will pop in for a moment later to see if you need something, reply on gerrit if needed, etc.
[00:10:38] <yuvipanda>	 brion: so we can easily set variables for things different between iOS and Android (fonts come to mind)
[00:10:58] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: KeepGoing tweaks [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/103508 (owner: 10Jdlrobson)
[00:11:23] <jdlrobson>	 jgonera: so you got the main page stuff working?
[00:11:31] <jgonera>	 jdlrobson, kaldari what time are you working tomorrow? leaving a bit early I suppose?
[00:11:31] <jdlrobson>	 if so feel free to +1 :-) then have a good sleep :D
[00:11:38] <jdlrobson>	 jgonera: affirmative
[00:11:42] <jdlrobson>	 i'll probably leave around 4pm
[00:11:44] <jgonera>	 jdlrobson, yes, it works, but I -1 :(
[00:11:59] <jdlrobson>	 jgonera: ok i'll look at your -1 and fix what i can and hopefully kaldari can then merge it :)
[00:12:05] <jgonera>	 ok
[00:15:24] <jdlrobson>	 jgonera: the design was not the most helpful so this makes this a little trickier
[00:15:34] <jgonera>	 why?
[00:15:56] <jgonera>	 I mean, the font sizes are clearly the same as article font size, margin above the button is bigger
[00:16:17] <jgonera>	 and the black line definitely should not be visible on every page below the header
[00:16:46] <jdlrobson>	 https://www.dropbox.com/s/dszucdtul548a2k/Mobile-landingpage-06.png < jgonera 
[00:16:54] <jdlrobson>	 i was told i should just use the page list design pattern
[00:16:55] <yuvipanda>	 brion: mhurd how's RTL support on iOS?
[00:17:29] <brion>	 yuvipanda: so as i recall there is at least some basic support, but i don't think it does layout mirroring unless they just added it recently
[00:17:35] <brion>	 so we may have to manually flip some things
[00:17:43] <jdlrobson>	 the black line was already there - i just standardized on the color which in turn has made it a little darker
[00:17:51] <yuvipanda>	 brion: for the CSS, RL will flip things for us
[00:17:51] <jgonera>	 sure, jdlrobson, only that fonts are rendered bigger in the watchlist, different CSS context I suppose
[00:18:06] <jdlrobson>	 jgonera: yeh i'll have a poke around
[00:18:12] <mhurd>	 yuvipanda: really good. will have to spend some time to make sure things are done to leverage built-in RTL functionality
[00:18:23] <yuvipanda>	 brion: mhurd sweet :)
[00:19:45] <brion>	 yeah looks like the text all renders nice but i see mostly left-to-riught layouts with islands of right-to-left text in them (trying switching to arabic)
[00:19:59] <brion>	 if we want to keep amir happy we'll have to flip a few things :D
[00:20:07] <brion>	 but that's totally doable
[00:21:24] <kenanwang>	 jdl
[00:21:25] <kenanwang>	 jdlrobson: hmm
[00:21:33] <jdlrobson>	 hmm?
[00:21:41] <yuvipanda>	 brion: did you check out on Android 4.4 now you can force RTL layout with english?
[00:21:50] <brion>	 sweet
[00:22:00] <jdlrobson>	 kenanwang: hhm??
[00:22:01] <brion>	 easier than learning hebrew or arabic ;)
[00:22:11] <yuvipanda>	 brion: I did that to test RTL on Android, put out a screenshot, and amir was so sad he submitted a patch to add hebrew translations :P
[00:22:11] <brion>	 crap, how do i put my iPhone back to english now ;)
[00:22:17] <yuvipanda>	 brion: apparently english RTL is terrible
[00:22:19] <brion>	 haha
[00:22:26] <kenanwang>	 so one thing with the new cta text we removed the error messages on the signup pages if they type an incorrect password etc.?
[00:23:00] <brion>	 well, i guess i just have to learn arabic now
[00:23:47] <yuvipanda>	 brion: no time like the present :D
[00:24:11] <brion>	 ahhhhh i found the right menu item
[00:24:34] <yuvipanda>	 brion: mhurd hmm, so mobile web doesn't have a history link outright - but clicking the 'last modified' link takes them to historyu
[00:24:40] <yuvipanda>	 brion: I guess we can do the same for the apps
[00:24:51] <brion>	 *nod*
[00:25:16] <yuvipanda>	 brion: we also have a 'last modified by' info, but I guess we don't need to expose that right now
[00:25:39] <yuvipanda>	 brion: I also wonder if we could put it not at the bottom, but near the top
[00:25:55] <brion>	 humanize that last-modified info eh
[00:25:59] <yuvipanda>	 brion: like, under the title or something
[00:26:06] <yuvipanda>	 "India, last modified  5 days ago"
[00:26:08] <yuvipanda>	 or somesuch
[00:26:35] <yuvipanda>	 brion: I'm thinking I'll just do it and see if a designer screams at me :P
[00:26:42] <brion>	 yeah go for it :)
[00:27:29] <yuvipanda>	 brion: it'll also help reinforce the 'hey people edit this thing!' bits
[00:29:51] <brion>	 ya
[00:30:45] <kenanwang>	 jdlrobson: I'm just unable to create an account on beta labs right now...
[00:43:28] <brion>	 ok i gotta buy cat food, see ya guys in a bit
[00:44:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS18) 10Dr0ptp4kt: WIP: Experiment: Special:MobileWebApp and manifests for offline FF & Chrome, FFOS + CWS. [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/100919 (owner: 10Jdlrobson)
[00:45:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WIP: Experiment: Special:MobileWebApp and manifests for offline FF & Chrome, FFOS + CWS. [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/100919 (owner: 10Jdlrobson)
[00:45:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Dr0ptp4kt: WIP: Experiment: Special:MobileWebApp and manifests for offline FF & Chrome, FFOS + CWS. (035 comments) [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/100919 (owner: 10Jdlrobson)
[00:49:32] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jhall: [QA] WIP Spoof physical geolocation for browser tests [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/103512 
[00:59:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS13) 10Jdlrobson: Story 1465: Add a call to action on main pages [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/102043 
[01:19:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Yuvipanda: Perform QuickReturn at the same rate as scrolling [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/103515 
[01:27:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Yuvipanda: Prevent weirdasscrashes when rotating phone [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/103516 
[01:33:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jdlrobson: [C: 032] "Works as advertised." [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/103506 (owner: 10MaxSem)
[01:34:54] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Don't display mobile view links on blacklisted pages [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/103506 (owner: 10MaxSem)
[01:40:35] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Jdlrobson: Docs: Document overlays with KSS [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/102547 
[01:40:42] <jdlrobson>	 ^ kaldari 
[02:23:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Kaldari: [C: 04-1] Docs: Document overlays with KSS (032 comments) [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/102547 (owner: 10Jdlrobson)
[02:58:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Yuvipanda: Make search bar visible when navigating to a new page [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/103520 
[02:58:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Yuvipanda: Move infobox to just below first paragraph, rather than lead [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/103521 
[07:29:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Yuvipanda: Use empty placeholder while loading, CTA placeholder only for known missing images [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/98579 (owner: 10Brion VIBBER)
[07:37:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 031] "i18n/L10n reviewed." [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/100919 (owner: 10Jdlrobson)
[07:48:36] <mayankmadan>	 hi jdlrobson
[08:27:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Jdlrobson: Hygiene: Kill SkinMobile [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/102853 
[08:27:14] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Jdlrobson: Offer the blue pill or the red pill [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/102866 
[09:40:02] <violetto>	 YuviPanda: sent you an email!
[10:20:10] <mayankmadan_>	 !ask
[10:20:15] <mayankmadan_>	 !logs
[11:04:29] <jcf2000_>	 Hi, I'm a GCI student, and I have a question about https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58356. In the bug report, it indicated that the headings are still printed in English. However, I can't find the headers they are referring to. What are the headers in the mobile editor?