[00:06:23] <mhurd>	 brion: per tomasz i put the iOS left menu spike in done column. gonna email kenan about adding may's new menu design as story 
[00:06:39] <brion>	 ok
[00:15:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Kaldari: Story 1565: Improve Infobox styling for tablet on beta [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107519 
[00:15:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Kaldari: Story 1565: Improve Infobox styling for tablet on beta [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107519 
[00:17:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Kaldari: Story 1565: Improve Infobox styling for tablet on beta [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107519 
[00:21:32] <mhurd>	 brion: gonna head home and WFH for remainder of day - back online soon :)
[00:21:38] <brion>	 ok
[00:23:27] <JeffHall>	 jdlrobson: Are you still blocked on this? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/105106/
[00:23:54] <JeffHall>	 jdlrobson: Just wrapped up afternoon meetings so I can try to help out if needed
[00:43:00] <kaldari>	 jdlrobson: I think the "Make sections aware of their subsections" commit may have broken editing.
[00:44:28] <kaldari>	 jdlrobson: can you test locally to verify?
[00:44:52] <kaldari>	 it's not totally broken, it just won't show the preview
[00:47:47] <kaldari>	 EditOverlay:_showPreview() causes an undefined error
[00:51:44] <kaldari>	 jdlrobson: ping
[01:02:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jdlrobson: Regression: Fix editor preview [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107525 
[01:02:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jdlrobson: Hygiene: Move Section to its own file. [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107526 
[01:06:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Kaldari: [C: 032] Regression: Fix editor preview [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107525 (owner: 10Jdlrobson)
[01:06:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Regression: Fix editor preview [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107525 (owner: 10Jdlrobson)
[01:29:53] <kaldari>	 jdlrobson: Looks like I had a regression as well: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/107528/
[01:31:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10JGonera: Disable fixed header when keyboard is open in new overlays (iOS) [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107529 
[01:41:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10JGonera: Remove onResourceLoaderTestModules hook [extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107533 
[01:49:54] <jgonera>	 kaity, so we're increasing the font size for everything on phones too?
[01:52:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Kaldari: Adding the Hamberger SVG file [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107535 
[01:52:59] <tfinc>	 mhurd: yuvipanda kenanwang_ woah .. trello restyle 
[01:55:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Kaldari: Adding the Hamberger SVG file [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107535 
[01:55:26] <mhurd>	 tfinc: oh yeah
[01:55:41] <kaldari>	 jgonera: hamburger added: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/107535/
[01:56:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10JGonera: [C: 032] Adding the Hamberger SVG file [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107535 (owner: 10Kaldari)
[01:56:44] <kaity>	 jgonera: yes
[01:56:56] <jgonera>	 kaity, the left menu items look kinda huge now
[01:57:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Adding the Hamberger SVG file [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107535 (owner: 10Kaldari)
[01:57:19] <kaity>	 jgonera: it shouldnt effect the left menu
[01:57:26] <jgonera>	 well, it does ;)
[01:57:31] <kaity>	 jgonera: I guess we need to look at it all more closely
[01:57:39] <jgonera>	 yep, ok, it's only in beta now
[01:58:00] <kaldari>	 jgonera, kaity: the font multiplier affects every font-size that isn't set in pixels (which is pretty much all of them)
[01:58:02] <kaity>	 for now can we make those new rules only effect windows larger than phone size?
[01:58:24] <kaldari>	 so we may need to adjust some of the font-sizes with this in mind
[01:59:28] <kaldari>	 kaity: we could
[01:59:41] <kaldari>	 kaity: let's discuss tomorrow
[01:59:44] <kaity>	 kaldari: lets do that :)
[01:59:45] <kaity>	 ok
[02:04:48] <mhurd>	 tfinc: just got first ios edit to save :)
[14:08:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Yuvipanda: Show error message if saving fails & offer to retry [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107573 
[14:41:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Dr0ptp4kt: [C: 032] Remove onResourceLoaderTestModules hook [extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107533 (owner: 10JGonera)
[14:41:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove onResourceLoaderTestModules hook [extensions/ZeroRatedMobileAccess] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107533 (owner: 10JGonera)
[16:03:55] <yuvipanda>	 brion: hey!
[16:57:49] <yuvipanda>	 hey brion
[16:57:56] <brion>	 mornin
[16:59:02] <yuvipanda>	 brion: just one patch in today, and tiny too. But should let me move an 8 card to done
[16:59:04] <yuvipanda>	 doing ToC now
[16:59:23] <brion>	 great
[17:04:45] <brion>	 yuvipanda: ok so.... if we get an API error response it'll handle it, but if it's an HTTP error or something it'll crash?
[17:05:00] <yuvipanda>	 brion: the other way around. if it gets an HTTP error it will handle it, else it'll crash
[17:05:16] <brion>	 hmmmmm ah i see
[17:05:30] <yuvipanda>	 brion: I've a separate exception for editing errors
[17:05:35] <yuvipanda>	 so I'll build a handler for them
[17:05:40] <yuvipanda>	 one for captcha, one for abusefilter, etc
[17:05:52] <brion>	 ah nice
[17:09:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Brion VIBBER: [C: 032 V: 032] "This protects against network failures such as losing connectivity. More work for handling actual API error results will follow!" [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107573 (owner: 10Yuvipanda)
[17:09:34] <yuvipanda>	 brion: when ToC is done I'll probably pick up Captcha from the next iteration and do it
[17:09:53] <yuvipanda>	 brion: also protection will be done when the enwiki deployment rolls out tomorrow
[17:09:58] <brion>	 whee
[17:52:15] <brion>	 on my way to office
[17:53:39] <yuvipanda>	 brion: whee
[17:53:40] <yuvipanda>	 e
[17:53:41] <yuvipanda>	 eeee
[18:02:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Brion VIBBER: "should work I'll test at office" [apps/firefox/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107250 (owner: 10Dr0ptp4kt)
[18:13:07] <brion>	 just got off Bart be there in a few mins then off to an arch summit mtg at 1030
[18:14:01] <yuvipanda>	 brion: hehe
[18:14:02] <yuvipanda>	 ok
[18:22:52] <kaldari>	 greg-g: As usual, we have signed up for the lightning deployment window today :)
[18:23:09] <greg-g>	 heh, I'll look in a second, catching up on other things now
[18:26:13] <MaxSem>	 I can haz a 10:30 meeting link?
[18:27:27] <kaldari>	 is it just me or is the internet not working?
[18:27:52] <mutante>	 http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/theinternet
[18:29:10] <mutante>	 kaldari: secure.wikimedia.org still up :)
[18:29:34] <kaldari>	 I can't even load google.com, wireless or wired
[18:29:43] <kaldari>	 but for some reason IRC works :)
[18:29:56] <zz_yuvipanda>	 DNS! DNS! DNS!
[18:29:59] <mutante>	 you must be at office
[18:30:03] <kaldari>	 yes
[18:30:04] <brion>	 i had some issues, restarted firefox and it worked
[18:30:19] <mutante>	 kaldari: tried cable vs. wifi?
[18:30:27] <kaldari>	 both
[18:30:32] <kaldari>	 restarted firefox
[18:30:39] <mutante>	 hmm, ping cajoel ?
[18:30:41] <kaldari>	 now everything works again. Thanks brion
[18:30:50] <mutante>	 i'm on a different continent, but the internet is up
[18:30:56] <mutante>	 k:)
[18:30:58] <kaldari>	 yay
[18:31:04] <kaldari>	 the internet is back
[18:31:31] <brion>	 when all else fails, restart FF :D
[18:34:12] <tfinc>	 MaxSem: this might work https://source.jobvite.com/jhire/modules/candidates/details.html?applicationId=pFkZygwh&mode=paginate&ticket=DE09E55DBB4928931E1621B2AC49F3241B98F5F5F6C59C8812B8659CE9D45D5E#/evaluations/pFkZygwh
[18:46:27] <zz_yuvipanda>	 hey mhurd
[18:46:37] <zz_yuvipanda>	 do you have screenshots of the iOS edit screen / process?
[18:46:38] <mhurd>	 zz_yuvipanda: heya!
[18:47:08] <mhurd>	 YuviPanda: it's not very pretty right now
[18:47:13] <YuviPanda>	 ah, ok
[18:47:34] <mhurd>	 YuviPanda: do u have preview done already?
[18:47:59] <YuviPanda>	 mhurd: no, not doing that one this sprint
[18:48:12] <mhurd>	 YuviPanda: oh, good :) i was worried about that
[18:48:16] <YuviPanda>	 hehe
[18:48:59] <mhurd>	 YuviPanda: vibha said she'd be helping us with editing ux. yay!
[18:49:40] <YuviPanda>	 mhurd: :) nice!
[18:55:28] <mhurd>	 brion: wow, you were right about weird scrolling/inset behavior in the edit box... so annoying haha
[18:55:38] <brion>	 :)
[19:02:01] <YuviPanda>	 mhurd: does iOS ToC show subsections?
[19:02:03] <YuviPanda>	 or just primary ones?
[19:02:16] <mhurd>	 YuviPanda: yeah it shows subs
[19:02:21] <YuviPanda>	 ok
[19:11:15] <tfinc>	 brion: do we still have hajitsu running ?
[19:11:26] <brion>	 tfinc: should be http://brionv.com:5000/
[19:11:32] <brion>	 yep still running
[19:11:40] <kaldari>	 grr, now pulling from gerrit isn't working
[19:11:48] <tfinc>	 did we get it onto labs ?
[19:12:42] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: http://jitsu.instance-proxy.wmflabs.org/
[19:12:46] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: MaxSem did it
[19:13:42] <tfinc>	 even better
[19:16:02] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: I just setup a domain for it: https://hajitsu.wmflabs.org
[19:16:13] <YuviPanda>	 also gets us SSL and SPDY and an easier to remember domain
[19:16:31] <YuviPanda>	 I wonder if I misspelt it
[19:17:09] <YuviPanda>	 recreated
[19:18:02] <YuviPanda>	 tfinc: http://hatjitsu.wmflabs.org/
[19:18:04] <YuviPanda>	 responded on list too
[19:21:52] <YuviPanda>	 brion: so I'm flattening out Sections
[19:21:53] <YuviPanda>	  unnesting them
[19:21:58] <brion>	 ok
[19:22:01] <YuviPanda>	 I find that a lot of places I don't really want them nested anyway
[19:22:06] <YuviPanda>	 like in the ToC for example
[19:22:20] <brion>	 yeah you end up having to flatten that structure for a grid view
[19:23:14] <YuviPanda>	 brion: yeah
[19:23:35] <YuviPanda>	 brion: well, this is tree-ish, but the easiest way to do a tree in Android is have a listview but have a left offset proportional to level... :)
[19:23:40] <vbamba>	 Yup! Im on it =]
[19:23:58] <brion>	 yeah :D
[19:24:46] <YuviPanda>	 vbamba: excited to see what comes out :) I guess violetto had talked to you about the editing stuff me and her had already discussed about...
[19:25:49] <greg-g>	 kaldari: should be fine, but you added it to the wrong day, stupid Pacific 4pm being 0:00 UTC
[19:26:01] <kaldari>	 oops
[19:26:01] * greg-g  should fix that someday

[19:26:28] * greg-g  might just wait until DST March for DST to beging/end/whatever

[19:26:44] <greg-g>	 minus extraneous DST
[19:27:04] <kaldari>	 is that table generated by a script or by hand?
[19:28:36] <YuviPanda>	 hmm, we should have a DST march, where for some places in the world it is actually February...
[19:28:44] <YuviPanda>	 and some places it is April
[19:29:02] <YuviPanda>	 and some places assert states rights and keep it as March
[19:29:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10JGonera: [C: 04-1] "Looks good, just minor comments." (0310 comments) [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/106469 (owner: 10Jdlrobson)
[19:35:04] <vbamba>	 YuviPanda: yeah, talked briefly with May. I think we are mostly on the same page
[19:35:13] <YuviPanda>	 vbamba: ah, good to know :)
[19:35:27] <vbamba>	 YuviPanda: can we chat today though?
[19:35:32] <YuviPanda>	 vbamba: sure! 
[19:35:53] <YuviPanda>	 vbamba: I have a meeting in 30, do you want to do it before?
[19:35:54] <YuviPanda>	 ah
[19:36:03] <vbamba>	 You are on india time right?
[19:52:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10JGonera: Regression: fix hamburger and left menu icon alignment [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107625 
[19:52:57] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Yuvipanda: Handle URLEncoded internal page links properly [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107626 
[19:53:13] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jdlrobson: Fix Nearby Pages in Desktop beta [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107627 
[19:53:13] <jgonera>	 kaldari, https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107625
[19:55:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jdlrobson: Hygiene: Fix dependencies on mw.user [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107628 
[19:56:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Kaldari: [C: 032] Hygiene: Fix dependencies on mw.user [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107628 (owner: 10Jdlrobson)
[19:56:56] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Hygiene: Fix dependencies on mw.user [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107628 (owner: 10Jdlrobson)
[19:58:13] <jgonera>	 kaity, in https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60066 I don't understand the bold titles part, they are bold
[19:58:35] <jgonera>	 regarding the heading of watchlist, I thought we were not doing it in this iteration
[19:58:47] <jgonera>	 not sure what the design is, or where those buttons should be moved
[20:01:12] <YuviPanda>	 hey mhurd
[20:01:25] <YuviPanda>	 it's easy enough to do simple sounds with iOS, right?
[20:01:53] <mhurd>	 YuviPanda: ya
[20:02:14] <YuviPanda>	 mhurd: okay. I was talking to Vibha and she suggested we could play subtle sounds on certain actions (like edit saved)
[20:02:21] <YuviPanda>	 sounds like a great idea :)
[20:02:28] <mhurd>	 YuviPanda: for sure! 
[20:07:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jdlrobson: Beta: Move Nearby button on Nearby Pages [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107632 
[20:12:44] <kaldari>	 jdlrobson, jgonera: Just checked in the work for remembering thanks in mobile thanks. It's in the Thanks extension rather than MobileFrontend: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/107633/
[20:14:57] <jorm>	 oink.
[20:15:10] <jorm>	 can someone tell me the color code for the border on the mobile header?
[20:15:53] <jorm>	 the new one.
[20:16:11] <kaldari>	 #CCCCCC
[20:23:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Kaldari: [C: 032] Fix Nearby Pages in Desktop beta [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107627 (owner: 10Jdlrobson)
[20:23:43] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix Nearby Pages in Desktop beta [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107627 (owner: 10Jdlrobson)
[20:29:08] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10JGonera: Make pre-commit fail if QUnit fails [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107635 
[20:29:21] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10JGonera: Make sure compressed PNGs are readded to the commit [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107636 
[20:30:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10JGonera: Make sure compressed PNGs are readded to the commit [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107636 
[20:48:14] <kenanwang_>	 jdlrobson: do we need to add a story for the limn graph?
[20:50:18] <awjr>	 kenanwang_: i suggested to kaldari that he create a card if it's a feature he wants to see
[20:55:14] <kenanwang_>	 Awjr is this wrt thanks?
[20:55:23] <awjr>	 kenanwang_: yeah
[20:55:49] <kenanwang_>	  Cool thanks
[20:55:51] <awjr>	 kenanwang_: but if it's something you'd like to see happen and a card doesnt exist yet you should go for it
[20:57:28] <violetto>	 YuviPanda: answer my infobox q!
[20:57:54] <violetto>	 (on fb)
[20:58:04] <YuviPanda>	 violetto: let's just talk here
[20:58:14] <YuviPanda>	 violetto: I don't know the percentage, I can write a script to find that out if you want
[21:00:26] <violetto>	 YuviPanda: it's going to help me persuade J
[21:00:35] <violetto>	 so if you can that'd be super
[21:00:44] <YuviPanda>	 violetto: ah, alright. 
[21:00:50] <YuviPanda>	 gimme a bit
[21:00:56] <YuviPanda>	 let me just do this manually :P
[21:01:02] <YuviPanda>	 faster that way
[21:01:13] <violetto>	 oyu're just counting infoboxes? i can help
[21:01:18] <violetto>	 i'll start from the bottom of the list
[21:02:28] <YuviPanda>	 violetto: ok, count till NHRP
[21:02:31] <YuviPanda>	 I'll count from top :)
[21:02:49] <violetto>	 deal
[21:04:08] <YuviPanda>	 violetto: I'm done
[21:04:51] <violetto>	 im putting the numbers next to the infoboxes
[21:04:52] <violetto>	 hang on
[21:08:12] <violetto>	 243878
[21:08:17] <violetto>	 YuviPanda: 
[21:08:46] <YuviPanda>	 violetto: hmm, so....
[21:08:52] <YuviPanda>	 violetto: that's, uh, 91% of infoboxes
[21:08:59] <awjr>	 jgonera: kaldari jdlrobson http://hatjitsu.wmflabs.org/29725
[21:09:00] <violetto>	 O_O
[21:09:08] <violetto>	 that's… amazeballs
[21:09:20] <YuviPanda>	 violetto: verifying, gimme a minute
[21:09:58] <YuviPanda>	 violetto: okay, seems legit
[21:10:15] <violetto>	 :) sold!
[21:10:17] <YuviPanda>	 violetto: however, we might want to get rid of Infobox Settlement, since that's not a single template by itself
[21:10:27] <YuviPanda>	 violetto: but a parent for about 20 templates
[21:10:27] <violetto>	 how does that happen
[21:10:45] <YuviPanda>	 violetto: well, there is Infobox French Commune
[21:10:49] <YuviPanda>	 Infobox German territory 
[21:10:52] <YuviPanda>	 Infobox US state
[21:10:53] <YuviPanda>	 and such
[21:11:10] <YuviPanda>	 that all use Infobox Settlement as their underlying base but are rather different after that
[21:11:32] <YuviPanda>	 violetto: the rest seem okay
[21:11:54] <violetto>	 so we'll just choose one of what you mentioned?
[21:12:32] <YuviPanda>	 violetto: French Commune has 36 thousand entries ;)
[21:12:38] <YuviPanda>	 UK has 19k
[21:12:45] <violetto>	 yep
[21:12:52] <violetto>	 french commune it is
[21:12:55] <violetto>	 91% still stands?
[21:13:03] <YuviPanda>	 violetto: no, it doesn't
[21:13:04] <violetto>	 uh i guess not
[21:13:12] <YuviPanda>	 violetto: if we get rid of Settlement, it comes down to 69
[21:13:22] <YuviPanda>	 I'm going to add French Commune and Country
[21:13:57] <violetto>	 YuviPanda: i shared you a doc
[21:14:07] <YuviPanda>	 looking
[21:14:12] <violetto>	 so when we adjust we don't need to recount
[21:14:23] <YuviPanda>	 aha!
[21:14:41] <YuviPanda>	 violetto: let me fill in mine
[21:21:39] <YuviPanda>	 violetto: it's gonna be hard to push it past that
[21:22:00] <YuviPanda>	 violetto: oh nevermind
[21:22:04] <YuviPanda>	 violetto: I didn't realize Album was empty :D
[21:23:11] <YuviPanda>	 violetto: okay, 85% for now?
[21:23:14] <YuviPanda>	 should be enough to convince, no?
[21:23:42] <violetto>	 that's enough
[21:23:57] <violetto>	 i thought originally 50% so that's more than super
[21:24:06] <violetto>	 ok let me finish writing this email
[21:24:56] <YuviPanda>	 violetto: cc me too?
[21:25:06] <violetto>	 yep
[21:25:20] <YuviPanda>	 violetto: woo!
[21:25:23] <YuviPanda>	 violetto: I've to go sleep now
[21:25:29] <YuviPanda>	 glad you caught me just before I left
[21:26:16] <violetto>	 YuviPanda: ok, nite!
[21:26:22] <violetto>	 thanks for everything today!
[21:26:29] <YuviPanda>	 violetto: vice versa too :)
[21:26:39] <YuviPanda>	 violetto: also remember that other teams can reuse this if needed, later on
[21:26:52] <violetto>	 yeah it's one of the stronger points
[21:27:06] <YuviPanda>	 violetto: I also don't know if prtksxna can complete the entire list in 2 weeks of 25h each
[21:27:19] <violetto>	 we also have kaldari ;)
[21:27:27] <YuviPanda>	 ah!
[21:27:28] <YuviPanda>	 :D
[21:27:28] <YuviPanda>	 ok
[21:27:35] <YuviPanda>	 this is very enwiki specific, though
[21:27:38] <YuviPanda>	 anyway, I'll go off now
[21:27:42] <YuviPanda>	 for real!
[21:27:43] <YuviPanda>	 bye
[21:27:46] <violetto>	 okay night!
[21:57:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10JGonera: Add SVGO, an SVG optimizer to pre-commit hook [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107725 
[22:06:42] <awjr>	 Maryana: remember that big thing you wrote justifying enforcing logged-in only editing on mobile?
[22:07:13] <awjr>	 do you happen to know whee it is off the top of your head?
[22:07:17] <Maryana>	 yep - you guys are revisiting that whole discussion now, right? :)
[22:07:23] <Maryana>	 it's in bugzilla
[22:07:50] <Maryana>	 want me to find the bug?
[22:08:43] <awjr>	 that would be awesome :)
[22:08:48] <awjr>	 Maryana: ^
[22:10:14] <Maryana>	 awjr: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52442#c14
[22:10:21] <awjr>	 ty!!!
[22:10:31] <Maryana>	 of course! hth
[22:10:35] <Maryana>	 it's a tough problem
[22:22:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10JGonera: Make header title in issues and talk overlays bold [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107728 
[22:53:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Jdlrobson: Story 1522: Table of contents [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/106469 
[22:53:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Story 1522: Table of contents [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/106469 (owner: 10Jdlrobson)
[22:55:45] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Jdlrobson: Story 1522: Table of contents [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/106469 
[22:55:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Story 1522: Table of contents [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/106469 (owner: 10Jdlrobson)
[22:57:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Jdlrobson: (Bug 59873) Show 404 when accessing Special:MobileEditor directly [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107305 (owner: 10Awjrichards)
[22:59:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS5) 10Jdlrobson: Show 404 when accessing Special:MobileEditor directly [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107305 (owner: 10Awjrichards)
[22:59:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jdlrobson: [C: 032] Show 404 when accessing Special:MobileEditor directly [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107305 (owner: 10Awjrichards)
[23:00:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Show 404 when accessing Special:MobileEditor directly [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107305 (owner: 10Awjrichards)
[23:02:40] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS6) 10Jdlrobson: Story 1522: Table of contents [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/106469 
[23:02:48] <jdlrobson>	 ^ ^ jgonera kaldari 
[23:04:05] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jdlrobson: [C: 032] Make pre-commit fail if QUnit fails [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107635 (owner: 10JGonera)
[23:04:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Jdlrobson: Make pre-commit fail if QUnit fails [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107635 (owner: 10JGonera)
[23:04:17] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jdlrobson: [C: 032] Tools: Make pre-commit fail if QUnit fails [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107635 (owner: 10JGonera)
[23:05:15] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Tools: Make pre-commit fail if QUnit fails [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107635 (owner: 10JGonera)
[23:07:18] <jdlrobson>	 http://mashable.com/2014/01/15/wikipedia-turns-13 < kaity violetto :(
[23:08:20] <awjr>	 i just noticed the monthly report graphs on the mobile reportcard show '2014' as a label rather than 'Jan'
[23:08:24] <DarTar>	 kenanwang_: yt?
[23:08:34] <awjr>	 jgonera: jdlrobson kaldari ^^
[23:08:42] <awjr>	 is that expected?
[23:08:43] <DarTar>	 do you want to chat about the NYT data?
[23:08:49] <awjr>	 http://mobile-reportcard.wmflabs.org/#monthly_reports-graphs-tab
[23:09:07] <jdlrobson>	 awjr: yeh i saw that i haven't quite worked that out yet - my limn graphs are now broken :(
[23:09:09] <jdlrobson>	 (locally)
[23:09:46] <DarTar>	 awjr: I understand it's default limn behavior
[23:09:57] <DarTar>	 as in, a feature not a bug
[23:10:41] <awjr>	 interesting - DarTar will 2014 morph into 'Jan' when february rolls around? or will it stay '2014' and next month's label will be 'Feb'?
[23:10:52] <DarTar>	 yes, that's the idea
[23:11:00] <DarTar>	 but double check with milimetric 
[23:11:07] <DarTar>	 oh sorry, 
[23:11:14] <DarTar>	 I mean it will stay 2014
[23:11:20] <awjr>	 cool - i don't think it's a big deal but wasn't sure if it was indicative of some other issue
[23:11:22] <DarTar>	 and next month will be Feb
[23:11:25] <awjr>	 gotcha
[23:14:03] <kaity>	 jdlrobson: "its a sign of strength" - vibha
[23:14:27] <jdlrobson>	 kaity :)
[23:14:59] <kaity>	 jdlrobson: here's to the awkward teenage years
[23:16:49] <awjr>	 o_O
[23:21:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10JGonera: [C: 032] Story 1522: Table of contents [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/106469 (owner: 10Jdlrobson)
[23:22:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Story 1522: Table of contents [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/106469 (owner: 10Jdlrobson)
[23:22:14] <jdlrobson>	 awjr: i got quite a few more test failure emails for qa :(
[23:22:18] <jdlrobson>	 all seem to be time out related
[23:22:22] <jdlrobson>	 i'm beginning to lose trust in them
[23:22:33] <jdlrobson>	 can I assume if they say "Unstable" they can be ignored?
[23:23:07] <awjr>	 jdlrobson: yeah i saw those, i suspect there's a problem on betalabs (which i think actually means the tests are working)
[23:23:13] <jdlrobson>	 (to clarify trust in the emails)
[23:23:18] <violetto>	 jdlrobson: time to be a true rebel!
[23:23:26] <awjr>	 jdlrobson: but that is a good a qustion for chris mcmahon though he doesn't appear to be online right now
[23:23:30] <awjr>	 JeffHall may know too
[23:24:31] <JeffHall>	 awjr jdlrobson: There was a change in the Jenkins template, so that "Unstable" will now appear in some cases where "Failed" used to be the status
[23:24:50] <awjr>	 JeffHall: what does 'Unstable' mean?
[23:25:17] <kenanwang_>	 jdlrobson: hey do you want me to add something to mingle to track the limn graph?
[23:25:44] <awjr>	 at least, semantically in the case of these emails
[23:25:54] <JeffHall>	 awjr: I believe it's based on a threshold - a low number of individual test failures gets an unstable "Status", a high number of failures get the dreaded "Failed" status
[23:26:13] <awjr>	 JeffHall: are repeat failures taken into account too?
[23:26:19] <JeffHall>	 awjr: But I'll have to look at the template to see where the threshold has been set
[23:26:26] <awjr>	 eg test A fails once, unstable - test A fails again, failed?
[23:26:35] <awjr>	 kk
[23:27:04] <JeffHall>	 awjr: Yes, I believe they are - an unstable/yellow trend turns into a failed/red status after some point (not sure what that point is right now)
[23:27:54] <JeffHall>	 awjr: I can check the MobileFrontEnd results in CloudBees now since I'm looking at the VE tests in CloudBees anyway
[23:28:05] <awjr>	 thanks JeffHall
[23:34:00] <JeffHall>	 awjr jdlrobson: My mistake - after checking the template, it looks like the red/Failed status in CloudBees has been removed, and replaced by yellow/Unstable
[23:34:31] <JeffHall>	 awjr jdlrobson: I know Jenkins can support multiple statuses, but perhaps CloudBees does not in their Jenkins implementation
[23:35:56] <awjr>	 :(
[23:36:57] <JeffHall>	 awjr: But the MobileFrontEnd tests are all green as of the latest run earlier today
[23:37:04] <awjr>	 \o/
[23:39:03] <JeffHall>	 awjr: The tests run twice a day via CluodBees, and it looks like the first MobileFrontend test run encountered Selenium errors (not problem with MF features themselves)
[23:39:47] <JeffHall>	 awjr: It's a pain, but sometimes we just get infrastructure failures via CloudBees, which why we are working to remove CloudBees from the mix altogether
[23:40:12] <JeffHall>	 awjr: In any, MF tests are all green right now in both betalans and test2
[23:40:44] <awjr>	 JeffHall: aye - though sometimes the failures are also a result of things going sideways on betalabs, which i think occasionally results in timeouts which results in failures
[23:41:34] <JeffHall>	 awjr: That's true enough - in any case, I'll add myself to MobileFrontEnd failures in CloudBees so that I can monitor them when Chris is not available
[23:41:43] <awjr>	 thanks JeffHall :)
[23:47:13] <awjr>	 greg-g: i was just looking for deployment history from last week - found it under the 2013 archive, though (https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments/Archive/2013#Week_of_January_6)
[23:47:34] <awjr>	 rather than 2014 ;)
[23:48:51] <greg-g>	 oh right, years
[23:49:29] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Jdlrobson: Optimise external link SVGs [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107740 
[23:49:55] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Jdlrobson: Make sure compressed PNGs are readded to the commit [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107636 (owner: 10JGonera)
[23:50:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jdlrobson: [C: 032] Tools: Make sure compressed PNGs are readded to the commit [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107636 (owner: 10JGonera)
[23:50:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Jdlrobson: Add SVGO, an SVG optimizer to pre-commit hook [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107725 (owner: 10JGonera)
[23:50:11] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Jdlrobson: Add SVGO, an SVG optimizer to pre-commit hook [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107725 (owner: 10JGonera)
[23:50:16] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jdlrobson: [C: 032] Tools: Add SVGO, an SVG optimizer to pre-commit hook [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107725 (owner: 10JGonera)
[23:50:32] <jdlrobson>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107401 < jgonera kaldari 
[23:51:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Tools: Make sure compressed PNGs are readded to the commit [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107636 (owner: 10JGonera)
[23:51:42] <greg-g>	 awjr: fixed, thanks
[23:51:46] <awjr>	 :D
[23:51:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10JGonera: [C: 032] Regression: Don't load button and mainmenu styles twice in beta [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107401 (owner: 10Jdlrobson)
[23:51:51] <awjr>	 thanks greg-g
[23:52:02] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Tools: Add SVGO, an SVG optimizer to pre-commit hook [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107725 (owner: 10JGonera)
[23:52:04] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Regression: Don't load button and mainmenu styles twice in beta [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107401 (owner: 10Jdlrobson)
[23:52:38] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Kaldari: [C: 032] Regression: Don't load button and mainmenu styles twice in beta [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107401 (owner: 10Jdlrobson)
[23:52:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Regression: Don't load button and mainmenu styles twice in beta [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107401 (owner: 10Jdlrobson)
[23:53:11] <kaldari>	 jdlrobson: needs a rebase
[23:55:27] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jdlrobson: [C: 04-1] ""Our current resets for table border-spacing and th font-weight are" (033 comments) [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/107494 (owner: 10Kaldari)
[23:58:40] <greg-g>	 kaldari: btw, tim and brandon (black) are investigating some varnish stuff right now, LD is on hold for a bit
[23:59:32] <jorm>	 there is no brandon but jorm.
[23:59:35] <jorm>	 he is bblack