[00:38:38] (03PS7) 10Mhurd: Refinement pass on editing summary panel. [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120173 [01:53:55] (03PS8) 10Mhurd: Refinement pass on editing summary panel. [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120173 [03:05:53] (03PS9) 10Mhurd: Refinement pass on editing summary panel. [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120173 [07:23:29] (03PS10) 10Mhurd: Refinement pass on editing summary panel. [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120173 [07:24:25] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 031] "L10n reviewed." [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120173 (owner: 10Mhurd) [07:30:48] (03PS11) 10Mhurd: Refinement pass on editing summary panel. [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120173 [07:39:56] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 031] "L10n reviewed." [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120173 (owner: 10Mhurd) [10:44:39] (03PS1) 10Mhurd: Custom pull-to-refresh for articles. [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120500 [11:57:44] [13WikipediaMobile] 15siebrand pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/M2ekxw [11:57:44] 13WikipediaMobile/06master 14ea6dee7 15Siebrand Mazeland: Use correct Creative Commons license abbreviation [11:59:52] [13WLMMobile] 15siebrand pushed 1 new commit to 06master: 02http://git.io/2wR2Tg [11:59:52] 13WLMMobile/06master 145a5db02 15Siebrand Mazeland: Use correct Creative Commons license abbreviation [12:08:44] (03CR) 10Siebrand: "I think it may be possible to improve the UI text. Made some suggestions inline." (031 comment) [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120500 (owner: 10Mhurd) [14:52:23] (03PS1) 10Yuvipanda: Fix namespaces missing on displaying titles + add tests [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120532 [15:26:06] (03PS2) 10Yuvipanda: Fix namespaces missing on displaying titles + add tests [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120532 [15:44:26] (03PS1) 10Yuvipanda: Direct feedback email to the OTRS queue [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120545 [15:45:46] * yuvipanda staples marktraceur [15:49:25] * marktraceur waves at YuviPanda [15:49:30] What's up? [15:49:44] marktraceur: oh, your bouncer was being a bit floody [15:49:49] marktraceur: so was stapling youj [15:56:27] yuvipanda: It may be having some issues with me connecting from a weird SSH client [15:56:35] Namely that I'm on a plane. [15:56:54] marktraceur: dammit you are on a plane and probably have better internet than I do :| [15:57:08] I need to keep my phone at a very specific spot to get usable wifi [15:58:00] Hah [15:58:32] marktraceur: however, I'm on a beach :P [15:59:50] See, that's awesome [15:59:58] Makes up for the wifi I'd say [16:00:00] marktraceur: s/See/Sea/ [16:04:30] Hah. [17:16:04] yuvipanda: standup? [17:16:46] awjr: I emailed. am on the way back to my place (walking from dinner) [17:17:06] yuvipanda: okidoke; im not sure your email went through [17:17:14] i dont see anything and neither has monte [17:17:17] awjr: hope we can move standup by an hour during DST so I don't have to do this :( [17:17:48] awjr: I'll join if I make it in time [17:18:02] awjr: ugh. I sent it about 5m ago. [17:18:10] awjr: i'm on irc on phone. [17:19:12] (03PS1) 10Dr0ptp4kt: Remove "devmode". Make Wikipedia Zero a regular fixture. [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120562 [17:22:53] awjr: I'm on now :) [17:32:32] (03PS1) 10Jdlrobson: Avoid redirects when visiting URLS in browser tests [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120564 [17:35:35] awjr: did you still not get my email? [17:36:24] i finally got it yuvipanda :) [17:36:30] i even responded to it [17:37:02] awjr: ah thanks :) [17:48:00] (03PS2) 10Dr0ptp4kt: Remove "devmode". Make Wikipedia Zero a regular fixture. [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120562 [17:48:54] mhurd ^ rebased [17:49:06] dr0ptp4kt: no mhurd :( [17:49:40] yuvipanda: yeah, i see. i need to find a foam device to throw [17:50:05] dr0ptp4kt: heh. [17:50:35] YuviPanda: heya! [17:51:11] hey mhurd [17:51:23] awjr: here's that trello op: https://github.com/montehurd/apps-ios-wikipedia/commit/a15f3f9927e77d74ece5ca1f2744e306892e9cc9 [17:52:06] dr0ptp4kt: username / email / 'full name' details for OTRS account? I'll get it created [17:52:11] mhurd: ^ [17:52:31] YuviPanda: what's that? [17:52:44] mhurd: you haven't read the mobile-l thread :) [17:53:09] mhurd: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/2014-March/006650.html and responses. [17:53:34] kaity: heyyy kaity could I get some SVGs for https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/mobile/cards/1747 (or are they in the dropbox?) [17:55:51] * yuvipanda pokes mhurd [17:56:00] YuviPanda: sry. just read the thread [17:56:03] mhurd: ok [17:56:52] YuviPanda: sounds good - oh, do you have link to this otrs thingie? [17:57:47] mhurd: wiki's use of OTRS is documented at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS and associated pages. [17:58:14] YuviPanda: ah thanks! i was looking at otrs-wiki.wikimedia.org and just wanted to double check :) [17:58:30] mhurd: :) that's the privat wiki which has a lot more information [17:58:36] mhurd: you'll get access to that too. [17:58:55] yuvipanda: just emailed you [17:59:08] dr0ptp4kt: sweet [17:59:37] dr0ptp4kt: I'm making username to be abaso. You can have dr0ptp4kt too if you want :) [18:00:07] cool mhurd, thanks :) [18:03:05] dr0ptp4kt: mhurd you guys should get a 'welcome email' with a temp. password shortly :) [18:03:20] dr0ptp4kt: want to do some code review? :D [18:03:30] YuviPanda: awesome thx! [18:05:36] tfinc is not back yet, right? [18:05:46] yurik: yeah, tomorrow I think [18:05:52] thx [18:14:42] awjr: meet at WF around noon? [18:15:58] yuvipanda: thx. how about this: i'm going to submit a patch to remove the devmode (i.e., make w0 detection standard), then i have a code review for jdlrobson, then i can do some android code review. cool? [18:16:02] chrismcmahon: perfect [18:16:09] dr0ptp4kt: cool! :) [18:32:23] dr0ptp4kt, want to meet earlier? [18:32:39] yurik, i do, but people seem to be booked [18:32:48] sigh [18:32:53] yurik, you want to just videoconference now? [18:33:01] just the two of us/ [18:33:02] ? [18:34:16] dr0ptp4kt, sure [18:37:59] (03PS2) 10Mhurd: Custom pull-to-refresh for articles. [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120500 [18:40:58] (03CR) 10Mhurd: "How about "Pull to refresh article"?" [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120500 (owner: 10Mhurd) [18:56:22] (03CR) 10Mhurd: [C: 031] "Looks good." [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120562 (owner: 10Dr0ptp4kt) [18:57:33] hi MaxSem, any thoughts with https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/119661/ ? [19:00:01] mhurd: dr0ptp4kt you should have accounts now [19:00:48] yuvipanda: i just logged in and updated my pw. thx [19:01:08] dr0ptp4kt: yw! OTRS interface can be a bit confusing sometimes. Join #wikimedia-otrs - friendly folks around :) [19:03:48] (03CR) 10Siebrand: "Maybe it's me, but I don't associate "pull" with what's happening from a user perspective." [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120500 (owner: 10Mhurd) [19:04:41] yurik, looks reasonable [19:04:56] MaxSem, want to +2 it? :) [19:05:25] nope. it's not complete and RFC is still underway [19:05:31] hi vbamba [19:05:48] vbamba: OTRS is a support ticket system - like ZenDesk. Not a bug tracking system. [19:05:55] that is, you have this feature of image reduction but it can't be used anywhere [19:07:00] Support tickets - what kind of tickets would we see here? [19:07:12] vbamba: right now, if you tap 'send feedback' on the app, *I* get email [19:07:21] vbamba: now instead if you tap 'send feedback' on the app, the email goes here. [19:07:21] got it [19:07:29] so its all the feedback tickets? [19:07:32] vbamba: are you subscribed to the mobile-l list? [19:07:33] MaxSem, what do you mean by not complete? [19:07:36] vbamba: if not I highly suggest you do [19:07:46] vbamba: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-l [19:07:48] you can already use it via the 404-thumb request [19:08:36] yuvipanda: done! [19:08:37] well, the wiki will never generate such links itself [19:08:51] vbamba: ok :) [19:08:59] without some way to actually use this feature, it's just another candidate for bitrot [19:09:08] vbamba: now I'll wait for kenan to confirm. Couldn't reach him on Hangout either. [19:09:24] also, ops objections... [19:09:26] MaxSem, the zero extension will [19:10:09] yuvipanda: thanks for reaching out for this. [19:10:13] MaxSem, ops objected to high usage, still waiting for them in other respects. As far as RFC - there has been some useful feedback - I removed the image link param [19:10:27] vbamba: yw :) Accounts should be done in a day or so. [19:10:38] MaxSem, hence - its an internal feature, which is by design [19:11:05] its just like a hook, only used via URL rather than hook calling mehanism [19:11:30] ops will eat you alive if you just do it in Zero [19:12:16] yuvipanda: Can we do an OTRS walkthrough once accounts are up? [19:12:20] Is it self explanatory [19:12:21] ? [19:12:36] vbamba: it's faaar from self explanatory :D And I have had an account only for a day now :D [19:13:12] vbamba: also there are staff in the SF office who have spent a *lot* of time with OTRS. I could just ask them to help [19:13:14] vbamba: checking [19:13:52] (03PS3) 10Mhurd: Custom pull-to-refresh for articles. [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120500 [19:14:19] mhurd: really? pull to refresh? :P [19:14:23] oh well :) [19:16:25] YuviPanda: because i cache things i need a way for the user to get the latest. figured i go with the so to speak "expected behavior" way of refreshing thing on the platform [19:16:55] :) ok! [19:17:25] YuviPanda: it only appears if they pull down, so nothing clutters the interface [19:17:53] :) ok! I don't think refresh is anywhere near important on Android though, so I'm going to let it be. [19:18:13] mhurd: vbamba btw, why was the old 'ip editing' design discarded and why is the new design 'stop gap'? [19:18:36] i'm not complaining, I like the new one better than the old one (except for the missing 'do not make me click another button every single time' button) [19:21:02] We need more time to break out the sign in/ create account widget and embedd it inot other pages [19:21:04] into* [19:21:45] vbamba: oh? ok then :) [19:21:58] vbamba: FWIW, I like the new design much better than the old one. Less naggy. [19:22:00] right now its a page - Also I think to get that page right would need more time..Monte, Kenan and I felt like we needed more dynamic disclosure [19:22:15] seeing everything on load was overwhelming [19:22:20] and to do it right meant more time [19:22:57] vbamba: I would've liked to been included in that discussion, but I understand it is hard - the fact that we are redoing the entire flow was a bit of a surprise to me, but it turned out ok since I was busy doing other things anyway. [19:23:10] MaxSem, why would they object for zero? according to my calcs on talk page, the absolute max (unlikely) is half a GB + 12% in number of files -- https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Requests_for_comment/Reducing_image_quality_for_mobile [19:24:38] still, it hasn't been okd yet [19:25:11] and did you mean half a TB?:) [19:36:37] well, I'm off [19:38:19] zz_yuvipanda: goodnight! [19:47:06] (03PS1) 10Dr0ptp4kt: Make Wikipedia Zero a regular fixture on Wikipedia for Android. [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120585 [19:50:25] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 031] "L10n reviewed." (031 comment) [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120585 (owner: 10Dr0ptp4kt) [19:53:26] (03CR) 10Yuvipanda: [C: 04-1] "Until me / brion can test it easily (so not yet?) I'd still want this to be under a feature flag. It can be removed from user visible pref" [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120585 (owner: 10Dr0ptp4kt) [19:54:37] (03PS1) 10Jdlrobson: WIP: Switch to JsDuck for documentation [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120587 [19:54:46] (03CR) 10Jdlrobson: [C: 04-2] WIP: Switch to JsDuck for documentation [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120587 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [20:27:38] (03PS1) 10Dr0ptp4kt: Feature flag the Wikipedia Zero detection, instead of Settings preference. [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120593 [20:52:07] (03CR) 10Dr0ptp4kt: "Simpler feature flag version at I3c22d6b016a2631aa83fc50c637027b94d00a7c8." (031 comment) [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120585 (owner: 10Dr0ptp4kt) [20:52:40] (03CR) 10Dr0ptp4kt: "See the full cleanup at I3ddce2fd05358c1edc90decd8914908a1c161daf." [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120593 (owner: 10Dr0ptp4kt) [20:53:42] jdlrobson: "Create the quiet room" YES [20:54:39] greg-g: i want it right now.. :( [20:55:00] :( :( me too [20:55:06] "but I want it NOW daddy!" [20:55:10] - Veronica [20:55:32] er, veruca [21:22:46] chrismcmahon: re our conversation earlier - is it possible to get saucelabs to use ff/chrome on a platform other than linux? [21:23:04] im curious if the weird cookie behavior is replicable via sauce labs on other platforms. [21:23:10] awjr: yes, we have some VE tests running on WinXP as I recall [21:23:36] chrismcmahon: is it trivial to set that up? [21:23:46] awjr: I guess I could get my Mac up to speed too [21:24:12] * chrismcmahon tries it [21:28:48] heh, so we test on unsupported OS?:) [21:28:59] always [21:34:43] gah, my personal mac is too old [22:02:51] (03Abandoned) 10Raimond Spekking: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120610 (owner: 10L10n-bot) [22:30:11] MaxSem: are you able to replicate bug https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62614 ? [22:30:17] since you have a Linux box right? [22:30:47] haven't tried it in linux, 1 sec [22:31:49] thanks MaxSem [22:31:59] this is really starting to bring tears to my eyes [23:06:51] jdlrobson, looks like my main VM is FUBAR, reinstalling [23:07:01] :/ [23:07:54] kaldari: pppleeeassee i beg you https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/117903/ [23:08:03] i might have a mental breakdown if this doesn't get merged soon [23:10:11] jdlrobson: Did you see my review comments in patch 18? [23:12:06] Don't have a mental breakdown! I wanna merge it ASAP :) [23:14:34] MaxSem: speaking of VMs do you use the mediawiki-vagrant environment? [23:14:59] and it too [23:16:16] ? [23:18:48] but plain VMs too [23:20:29] You mean, you use the mediawiki-vagrant environment as well as your own VM environments? [23:20:57] yes [23:21:18] jdlrobson, of course no repro! [23:21:29] MaxSem: sigh :( [23:21:47] I'm having an issue setting up vagrant. Its my first time doing so. [23:22:22] I get php running and I can ssh into the vm but the front page is dead. [23:23:15] my http://127.0.0.1:8080/w/index.php is dead. [23:24:00] And I have no idea why. MaxSem do you or anyone else have any pointers? [23:25:23] is port 80 free on that machine? [23:25:53] jdlrobson: You don't ahve to add documentation to all of them, BTW [23:26:01] MaxSem: which machine. the VM? [23:26:12] no, the host [23:26:23] the VM port 80 forwards to 8080 on host [23:26:45] wait. [23:27:06] VM port 8080 forwards to 80 on host (had that backwards) [23:27:33] no wait. I'm double backwards. rotf [23:27:53] i retract my last statements [23:28:15] MaxSem: YES... VM port 80 forwards to 8080 on host [23:28:38] there are people in #wikimedia-dev who are much more knowledgeable than me [23:28:38] info.php comes up [23:29:03] but i noticed that the vagrant/mediawiki dir in the VM is empty. [23:32:53] vagrant provision [23:33:51] MaxSem: are you talking to me? [23:33:58] yes [23:34:08] what about "vagrant provision" ? [23:34:31] the command? [23:35:36] have you run it? [23:36:19] i just did. [23:36:29] but I think i might have skipped a step. [23:36:46] i have to clone mediawiki right? [23:39:58] if I remeber it right, vagrant provision should do it [23:40:51] it should Just Work [23:41:00] out of the box [23:41:47] you can later update mediawiki and extension code with vagrant git-update [23:41:58] there is a step in the wiki https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki-Vagrant [23:42:24] Step #4. Does that suggest cloning the mediawiki to a specified folder? [23:42:54] jeremylee: step #4 is not for cloning mediawiki, it's for cloning the mediawiki vagrant instance [23:43:17] yea. that's what I thought. And I completed all of those steps in that order. [23:43:36] Yes it seems like vagrant got the vm up with php running [23:43:40] but no mediawiki instance [23:44:07] I'm assuming the mediawiki instance should be running out of /vagrant/mediawiki [23:44:14] but that dir is empty. [23:44:14] correct [23:44:24] and you followed step #4? [23:44:39] so either I missed something or vagrant didn't finish its job. [23:45:17] awjr: yes i followed step #4 [23:45:20] jeremylee: i think your hunch that something went sideways in step #4 is correct [23:45:20] twice [23:46:05] jeremylee: what do you see when you run 'git branch' in your vagrant directory? [23:46:21] (from the host) [23:46:32] or better yet, git log [23:47:58] is the vagrant dir supposed to be a git repo? [23:48:06] yes [23:48:32] this one: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/mediawiki/vagrant [23:50:10] awjr: i see some logs [23:50:50] jeremylee: ok good sign. do you see anything vagrant/mediawiki (from the host) [23:50:52] ? [23:50:59] *see anything in [23:51:34] yes [23:51:50] but that directory is empty. [23:52:06] jeremylee try 'git pull' [23:52:23] jdlrobson: You might have to set $wgDevelopmentWarnings = true to see notices [23:52:57] jeremylee: is your VM running right now? [23:53:19] basile: yes [23:53:23] oops. [23:53:27] awjr: yes * [23:53:51] git pull -> already up to date [23:54:40] jeremylee: ok; try 'vagrant suspend' and then 'vagrant up' - what does the output say? [23:56:28] if that doesn't give any clues, we should try enabling a role and have puppet run, which may take care of your missing files [23:58:00] booting VM now. [vagrant up] [23:58:25] booted and ready [23:58:35] jeremylee: any warnings or weirdness in the output? [23:58:39] nope [23:58:49] no warnings [23:58:52] jeremylee: ok - were you hoping to use mw-vagrant for anything in particular (eg testing MobileFrontend)? [23:59:15] yes. testing mf