[00:37:06] (03PS4) 10Jdlrobson: Cache last call to PageApi in localStorage [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/101123 [00:37:22] (03PS5) 10Jdlrobson: SpecialMobileWebApp: Cache last call to PageApi in localStorage [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/101123 [00:50:20] (03PS1) 10Dr0ptp4kt: Barebones Wikipedia Zero support for FFOS. [apps/firefox/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120975 [00:52:50] (03CR) 10JGonera: [C: 032] Proper edit handling in case of redirects where page does not exist [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/116912 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [00:53:58] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Proper edit handling in case of redirects where page does not exist [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/116912 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [00:54:08] (03CR) 10JGonera: [C: 032] Ignore WIP patches when evaluating [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120966 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [00:55:07] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Ignore WIP patches when evaluating [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120966 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [01:06:40] (03PS2) 10Dr0ptp4kt: Barebones Wikipedia Zero support for FFOS. [apps/firefox/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120975 [01:23:32] (03CR) 10Kaldari: Hygiene: Handle fatal errors when loading talk page (031 comment) [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120864 (owner: 10Kaldari) [01:23:40] (03CR) 10Kaldari: Hygiene: Handle fatal errors when loading talk page (032 comments) [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120864 (owner: 10Kaldari) [01:27:28] (03CR) 10Kaldari: "I think you may have misread the code." [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120864 (owner: 10Kaldari) [02:41:05] (03PS1) 10Mhurd: Main menu - now with icons! [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120982 [04:01:16] (03PS2) 10Mhurd: Main menu - now with icons! [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120982 [06:05:06] (03CR) 10Jdlrobson: Hygiene: Handle fatal errors when loading talk page (031 comment) [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120864 (owner: 10Kaldari) [06:51:03] (03PS2) 10Yuvipanda: [WIP] Show option to log in or save anonymously when not logged in [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120949 [10:12:45] (03PS3) 10Yuvipanda: Show option to log in or save anonymously when not logged in [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120949 [10:31:09] (03PS4) 10Yuvipanda: Show option to log in or save anonymously when not logged in [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120949 [11:29:45] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 031] "L10n reviewed." [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120982 (owner: 10Mhurd) [11:35:05] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 04-1] "Please add message documentation for newly added message keys. See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/I18n#Message_documentation for details." [apps/firefox/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120975 (owner: 10Dr0ptp4kt) [13:54:12] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 031] "i18n/L10n reviewed." (031 comment) [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120745 (owner: 10Kaldari) [14:11:56] (03PS1) 10Amire80: RTL icons for beta features [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121059 [14:22:45] (03CR) 10Nemo bis: Tool: Make messages easier to create (031 comment) [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/119637 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [14:41:51] (03CR) 10MaxSem: Story 1732: Make licensing agreement customizable (031 comment) [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120745 (owner: 10Kaldari) [15:21:58] chrismcmahon: for bug 62614, what fault are you looking to find in the headers? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62614#c38 [15:24:03] I have 2 different wireshark logs from the editor_ve test. And I know what I'm looking at. But I don't know what I'm looking for. [15:24:05] hi jermylee . Chris Steipp is our security guy. He was interested in the request headers. You can see there that the enwikiSession has one value but the token in the request body has a different value. those should always be the same, and that difference is a bug of some sort, but a very elusive one. [15:24:27] I see. That's what I wanted to know. [15:24:31] jeremylee even [15:25:06] ? even [15:28:31] jeremylee: as a QA guy it is sort of my job to pursue this sort of weirdness as far as possible. we could probably get the MobileFrontend browser tests to pass pretty simply, but this error is mysterious and I'd like it explained, even if not fixed, especially if there is a possibility of an underlying security issue. this error is new behavior as of pretty recently, and I don't like mysteries. [15:30:15] chrismcmahon: I hear you. O_o I'm having one of those "jinkies" moments myself. [15:30:37] *scooby doo theme plays in head* [15:30:54] hahaha [15:31:01] so the wiki sess id is supposed to be carried into the token field? [15:31:17] and somehow the token field is not receiving it? [15:32:09] chrismcmahon: do i have that right ? [15:32:29] I did a wireshark capture and found the same thing on my test. [15:36:20] jeremylee: yes, as I understand it the browser is sending a notice that it is setting a cookie for enableBeta, but the token for the request is wrong. something like that. [15:38:19] chrismcmahon: I posted a wireshark log of the same thing. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62614#c39 [15:38:37] cool, thanks jeremylee [15:39:12] So, the form is sending a token. But from the beginning before the POST the tokens do not match. [15:39:23] So, the problem is before POST [15:42:06] chrismcmahon: from these results, I gather that patching tests isn't going to make a difference.. right? [15:43:26] jeremylee: if put a wait before clicking "Save", after clicking the ON/OFF toggle, the test would probably pass, but I haven't tried it. would be an interesting experiment to 'sleep 5' before clicking save, I might do that today. [15:45:44] chrismcmahon: not sure that I understand how a sleep would fix this issue. In fact, now I'm not sure how not sleeping would have caused the issue... [15:51:55] jeremylee: since we can't seem to reproduce this manually, my theory is that the action triggered by clicking the ON/OFF toggle takes long enough to propagate that clicking Save immediately doesn't pick up the new information. I could be wrong. [15:56:16] I just did something that looks like its doing what its supposed to. [15:57:44] But the test got past that hangup point. [15:59:22] jeremylee: yeah, I can't reproduce it every time [16:27:06] (03PS2) 10Jdlrobson: RTL icons for beta features [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121059 (owner: 10Amire80) [16:27:23] (03CR) 10Jdlrobson: [C: 032] "I shrunk the SVG" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121059 (owner: 10Amire80) [16:29:40] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: RTL icons for beta features [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121059 (owner: 10Amire80) [16:32:10] chrismcmahonbrb: what about a sleep on line 81 common_steps.rb, after save? [16:44:57] (03PS1) 10Jdlrobson: QA: Remove tests against URLS [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121102 [16:44:59] (03PS1) 10Jdlrobson: Hygiene: Remove unused step. [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121103 [16:48:34] jeremylee: yeah, at some point I was going to try a sleep between the lines page.beta_element.when_present.click and page.save_settings_element.when_present.click, see what happens [16:49:23] the test is supposed to enable beta. [16:49:40] then go back to the same page and enable experimental features right? [16:49:57] (03CR) 10Cmcmahon: [C: 032] "wfm" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121102 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [16:50:37] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: QA: Remove tests against URLS [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121102 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [16:59:53] (03CR) 10Kaldari: Story 1732: Make licensing agreement customizable [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120745 (owner: 10Kaldari) [17:02:52] (03CR) 10Cmcmahon: [C: 032] Hygiene: Remove unused step. [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121103 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [17:03:33] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Hygiene: Remove unused step. [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121103 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [17:19:06] (03CR) 10Kaldari: [C: 04-2] "Need to wait until after Thursday morning to merge." [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120745 (owner: 10Kaldari) [17:23:53] awjr: my friend who works at Mozilla climbed Aconcagua a few months ago. :) [17:24:38] awesome! [17:25:30] chrismcmahon: it's one of the highest (maybe the highest?) peak you can summit non-technically - if sarah winds up spending a long time doing research in Chile, i may try to work up to it. summiting a peak > 20000' is on my bucket list :) [17:26:04] (03PS5) 10Kaldari: Story 1732: Make licensing agreement customizable [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120745 [17:26:04] tfinc: our 1-1 clashes with design refinement jam [17:26:13] YuviPanda: fixed [17:26:26] damn jetlag [17:26:27] tfinc: ty [17:29:09] awjr: I used to know a guy who had climbed Denali. I've done a few 14ers, and I think I'm done. I'm an old man. [17:30:06] hehehe [17:31:01] chrismcmahon: i haven't done a 14er. I got invited to do whitney a few years back, but it was very late in the season and i didn't feel in shape enough [17:31:09] maybe i should do a 14er before 20k :p [17:33:28] awjr: there is a distinct lack of oxygen at that altitude [17:34:00] overrated [17:37:52] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 031] "i18n/L10n reviewed." [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120745 (owner: 10Kaldari) [17:38:50] (03PS3) 10Kaldari: Hygiene: Handle fatal errors when loading talk page [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120864 [17:44:58] violetto: I seem to have lost everyone [17:44:58] violetto: hangouts crashed. brr [17:45:26] YuviPanda: ahh [17:45:42] violetto: back on now [17:55:19] (03PS2) 10Yuvipanda: Make Wikipedia Zero a regular fixture on Wikipedia for Android. [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120585 (owner: 10Dr0ptp4kt) [18:03:06] violetto: laptop crashed again :| [18:03:13] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 031] "L10n reviewed." [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120585 (owner: 10Dr0ptp4kt) [18:04:09] (03CR) 10Jdlrobson: [C: 031] "Juliusz can make the call about whether the if statement is confusing" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120864 (owner: 10Kaldari) [18:04:30] YuviPanda: that's ok :} [18:07:48] violetto: gah, hangouts seems to keep crashing/freezing my laptop [18:11:09] dr0ptp4kt: I was looking at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#q,I3ddce2fd05358c1edc90decd8914908a1c161daf,n,z and there's no feature flag? [18:11:15] or did I rebase wrong patchset? [18:11:28] YuviPanda: it's okay no worries! [18:11:43] MaxSem: gulp.. [18:11:56] runs and hides.. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/118135/ [18:12:09] violetto: hehe, say so one more time! [18:12:13] 'so' I mean [18:12:22] weee jdlrobson [18:16:53] mhurd: when you are sending the email send it to mobile-l :) [18:19:25] YuviPanda: added cc mobile-l to my note so i don’t forget :) [18:19:31] mhurd: :) [18:19:46] mhurd: I am going to start not responding to threads that aren't on mobile-l without a reason (/cc jdlrobson) [18:19:46] :) [18:20:31] YuviPanda: hehe quit using trello too [18:20:53] mhurd: oh I would love to. We are feeling less and less like an open source project as time goes on and that concerns me greatly :'( [18:21:28] YuviPanda: down with the oppression of public trello boards! [18:21:36] ;) [18:22:00] mhurd: where nobody else can comment unless they are members of the board? [18:22:09] YuviPanda: so enable comments [18:23:09] mhurd: yeah, I did so for the boards yesterday. Either way, *our* (Wikimedia's) community doesn't do much on Trello at all, and I feel like we are getting more and more isolated from it. [18:23:24] mhurd: so yes, please use mobile-l for everything that does not need to be private :) [18:23:41] YuviPanda: let’s just use a wiki page instead of trello [18:24:00] and mingle [18:24:03] mhurd: that is what we were using! [18:24:22] mhurd: we were using a wiki page, and tracking things with new sections and Template:done. It was pretty awesome. [18:24:32] so if we switched for no good readon so lets switch back [18:24:38] *reason* [18:25:18] mhurd: I don't think we switched for no good reason, no. This isn't black and white - just because we use trello does not mean we should have emails that aren't public [18:25:57] neither is the issue of what has to be an email or not a black and white thing [18:26:06] that’s all i’m saying [18:27:00] mhurd: why does this email need to be private? [18:28:26] * marktraceur gets dropped on the conversation [18:28:40] The Multimedia team recently started having more public conversations too, our mailing list is good for that [18:28:58] mhurd: if there's no reason, it should be public on a mailing list. That is all I am saying. People can respond privately to a mailing list conversation if they want to. [18:29:06] It might be good to better enforce using the mailing list :) [18:29:57] (03PS1) 10Jdlrobson: Update schema for MobileWebUploads [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121125 [18:31:11] marktraceur: yeah, I'm going to start doing that now :) [18:33:36] mhurd: as an example, the mail I just forwarded to mobile-l was missing May, brion, dr0ptp4kt, tfinc from cc, and other people who might have been interested too. [18:34:01] mhurd: and I also have this feeling whenever I see these emails 'How many other emails are going around where I'm not on cc but would be interested in knowing?' [18:34:09] mhurd: so getting into the habit of using mobile-l is overall good, I think. [18:34:39] didn’t say it had to be private. kenan asked what zero team’s requirement was, not what the community consensus was about what visual indicator should be used for an app that doesn’t exist yet to indicate in the nav chrome the zero state of the network connection being used in such a way that doesn’t interfere with the nav bar’s other visual elements as they change state. [18:34:53] mhurd: mobile-l isn't about community consensus. It's just a mailing list. [18:35:22] mhurd: such a stark line between 'team' and 'community' is also concerning :'( [18:36:33] really? you’re really questioning me on that? [18:36:35] YuviPanda: mhurd: the wiki page failed pretty quickly for us which is why we switched. we outgrew it on maybe day 2 if i remember right [18:36:40] after that it was a nightmare to use [18:36:45] tfinc: oh I agree. [18:37:04] tfinc: I think wiki pages are ok for 1 person but you need more structure since then. [18:37:22] tfinc: mhurd I am talking only about using mobile-l instead of emails privately cc'd to people. [18:37:23] a public trello board requirements for participation are no different then bugzilla [18:38:23] YuviPanda: try to avoid private emails as much as possible and use the appropriate mailing list with a preference for mobile-l. in most cases your going to add more and more people [18:38:33] and you'll see that the list would have been a better option [18:38:41] mhurd: ^ is all I am trying to say as well :) [18:38:55] and then it is publicly archived, and all that. [18:38:59] you'll likely have seen me pull private discussions to email lists many of times in recent times [18:39:02] to simplify [18:39:11] archivable and searchable [18:39:43] thank you tfinc [18:40:13] i think were doing fine there and should just call out when it happens and add the list [18:40:38] YuviPanda: but not responding on those threads isn't going to help anything. just call it out and add the list [18:40:54] tfinc: oh, I meant not respond to them in same thread but move them to mobile-l and then respond. [18:40:57] sorry if that wasn't clear [18:41:02] YuviPanda: thats fine [18:42:33] mhurd: any luck with unlocking test releases ? [18:43:01] YuviPanda: i’m fine with using mobile-l. i will also use the words team and community. [18:43:21] tfinc: haven’t checked… will do so now... [18:43:54] fwiw, i'm agnostic about trello/mingle. I think they have their uses. But I am filtering any mobile-tech emails unless they have the words confidential or are sent by tfinc@wikimedia.org [18:44:06] I wish the photos on mobile and app were bigger. [18:44:24] Even on my phone, it only takes up less than half screen width. [18:44:37] and on my tablet, the photos look ridiculously small. [18:44:52] ragesoss: file a bug! I'll try to setup some css that stretches the image width to full screen / no-bleed [18:45:11] noooo don't resurface the image zombie for mobile web [18:45:14] lolz [18:45:22] jdlrobson: oh? There was an image zombie? [18:45:25] jdlrobson: link? [18:45:32] Oh, actually, we were seeing a bug on the mobile site at LibrePlanet where the image was stretched because the width was changed but not the height (or something) [18:45:43] marktraceur: yeh that bug got fixed [18:45:46] that was broken by VE [18:45:48] that's always fun. [18:45:56] Oh, good [18:46:03] basically the parser should not be putting width and style attributes in image tags [18:46:04] mhurd: I didn't mean that community and team are one and the same, but the latter is a subset of the former and not disjoint.. [18:46:13] We should be using classes this is 2014. [18:46:16] I don't want a css-stretched image, though... I want full resolution. [18:46:30] ragesoss: yeah, with the App I can JS stretch or pre-process-HTML the image clientside. [18:46:34] ragesoss: this is the problem that the media viewer solves no? [18:46:53] YuviPanda: fine. sounded like i wasn’t passing some purity test of yours [18:46:57] does media viewer solve any problems for mobile? [18:47:01] I thought it just caused them. [18:47:05] mhurd: ow :( That wasn't my intent at all. Sorry! [18:47:28] YuviPanda: “such a stark line between 'team' and 'community' is also concerning :'(” [18:47:40] jdlrobson: media viewer solves the problem if you want even more resolution. [18:47:52] ragesoss: can you show me an example page that is causing you issues [18:48:03] mhurd: see also recent Loomio discussion about this issue started by marktraceur. [18:48:26] jdlrobson: but what I want is for photos, by default, to take up something close to the full width of my device screen (without any pixelation from stretching a smaller image than the pixel width of my device) [18:48:39] Mistakenly, I think [18:49:37] mhurd: " kenan asked what zero team’s requirement was, not what the community consensus was about what visual indicator should be used for an app that doesn’t exist yet to indicate in the nav chrome the zero state of the network connection being used in such a way that doesn’t interfere with the nav bar’s other visual elements as they change state." -> I was talking about how postihng to mobile-l was seen as 'me [18:49:38] thod of gathering community consensus' and not just as 'way of communicating with people who work on this' [18:49:57] oh, here's a page causing me trouble: [[Panellus stipticus]] [18:50:03] YuviPanda: fine. we were talking past each other [18:50:28] YuviPanda: as we do on occasion. sorry [18:50:29] (unrelated trouble, though: I see tags in the title) [18:50:42] mhurd: apologies. IRC also always sounds harsher than it is. [18:50:49] (03CR) 10Dr0ptp4kt: "Silly question, and I'm glad you're on this. I couldn't quite untangle it quickly - where's the message description file for this repo?" [apps/firefox/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120975 (owner: 10Dr0ptp4kt) [18:50:55] In general I think it's sort of scary that we feel so separate from our communities (multiple, e.g. editors, developers, bot authours, helpers, etc.) as we do [18:50:59] YuviPanda: that’s why i like hangouts ;) [18:51:14] itym video chat [18:51:19] mhurd: indeed, but then here we already had marktraceur and tfinc and jdlrobson chip in, which won't be possible if we were just talking to each other. [18:52:01] YuviPanda: embrace the chaos! :) [18:52:14] mhurd: :) [18:52:30] marktraceur: I agree, I agree. [18:52:56] YuviPanda: k. back to doing things and stuff… [18:53:03] mhurd: ok :) [18:53:37] marktraceur: those are the costs of using so many tools (talk pages, email (and tons of different lists), bugzilla, irc, gerrit, trello, etc) to communicate. they cause their own communities to form within each tool [18:53:45] chaos is good [18:53:53] +1 chaos [18:54:09] Being public is scary at times, the thing to remember is being public = agreeing with everyone who disagrees [18:54:29] tfinc: Which is ridiculous, and probably the most helpful solution so far has been the suggestion of having One True Tool instead of (bugzilla|trello|mingle|phabricator|github) (cc James_F) [18:54:32] jdlrobson: hmm? can you expand on what that means? [18:54:37] jdlrobson: the image size issue is especially acute with vertical images, such as [[selfie]], but on a tablet horizontal images are also disproportionately small. [18:55:19] marktraceur: i rarely believe that one tool will ever rule them all and if does there will always be fringe elements [18:55:35] marktraceur: :-) [18:55:43] tfinc: Phabricator? Have you looked at it recently? It's prettyfreakin' fantastic [18:55:45] marktraceur: but i do believe that the reason why we have so many mailing lists is that our talk pages are so god awful bad to use [18:55:45] (03CR) 10Siebrand: "Also replied to your email. I think it's missing." [apps/firefox/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120975 (owner: 10Dr0ptp4kt) [18:55:50] tfinc: marktraceur indeed, but reducing the number of 'em is always good. Merging BZ / Gerrit / Trello into one would be a good start, I'd think :) [18:56:09] tfinc: I've been trying flow on the betafeature talk pages. pretty good! [18:56:24] so instead i like to think of them as toolbox that i pickup everytime i go to work. if i find a better tool then i take out an old one [18:56:39] and if i can remove a tool all together then i'm all for it [18:56:42] YuviPanda: should I be filing bugs against the alpha app, or just keep emailing you? [18:56:59] ragesoss: file bugs. Latest build (in a few hours) will also email OTRS, not me. [18:57:01] anytime someone tells to just use one tool for everything i worry about lock in no matter how shiny it is [18:57:15] marktraceur: did you mean phantastic? [18:57:23] violetto: oh, yeah, phank you. [18:57:32] YuviPanda: cool. Want me to file one about the drawer / toc interaction that we talked about? [18:57:35] tfinc: request an account at https://fab.wmflabs.org/ and check it out (if you ahven't already) [18:57:40] ragesoss: oh yeah definitely [18:57:52] YuviPanda: well say you sent a mail to mobile-l saying "FYI this is what we are doing with anonymous editing - here's a mockup / wiki page". I can be totally unreasonable and critique it in an unhelpful way and tell you you are doing it wrong. That may seem like a reason not to share with me, but in fact it may surface things/opinions that you may not have thought of. Even if you disagree with those opinions/ideas they are useful to know as t [18:57:53] challenge your thinking about why you are doing it. The other benefit of this, is a volunteer/myself could think "This is awesome, I want anon editing. I'm going to implement this for mobile web." You then get it for free as you've given the minimum information needed to achieve it. The first I heard of anonymous editing workflow was yesterday when I happened to come across a chance meeting between Tomasz and Monte (and is something I'm [18:57:54] interested in getting off the ground) [18:58:19] jdlrobson: oh completely agree. [18:59:04] jdlrobson: android has my contributions because I overheard random IRC chatter about tfinc wanting to have 'My Contributions' on mobile since he could now edit in app and then finding out that mobile web has one but it is well hidden. [18:59:25] ragesoss: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selfie [18:59:34] tfinc: I meant http://fab.wmflabs.org https is broken. [18:59:46] how do you guys manage your emai inboxes? i get such a deluge of emails that i follow maybe 1/100th of the discussions. any best practices for filtering to recommend? [18:59:56] ragesoss: is the first image the one you are talking about? [19:00:15] and are you talking about tablets only or mobile devices too? [19:00:18] jdlrobson: yeah, and every other one on the page, since they are all portrait orientation. [19:00:25] jdlrobson: both. [19:00:29] mhurd: GMail's split inboxes help a lot. It 'learns' as I read mailing lists and pops up ones I might like into 'Primary' [19:00:31] mhurd, I have the same problem [19:00:32] my Nexus 5 and 7. [19:00:59] ragesoss: so yeh the parser sends the first image for example with width 170px [19:01:04] for me the signal to noise ratio of email is really, really low [19:01:28] YuviPanda: i've played with it. eager to see a team use it. but for now trello just makes so much more sense to me. [19:01:28] mhurd: I also use filters very heavily. I 'mute' a lot of threads as they start, and have sevaral mailing lists on 'digest mode' that let me just look at the threads once a day. [19:01:40] tfinc: I agree atm too. Hopefully 'in the glorious future!' [19:01:46] ragesoss Do you know where that 170px come from? [19:02:07] YuviPanda: i just enabled that split mode last month. oooh digest mode! i need to do that! [19:02:21] mhurd: wikitech-l is my biggest email contributor after Gerrit, so I have it in digest mode now [19:02:38] jdlrobson: possibly related to the image having the 'upright' parameter? [19:02:42] mhurd: I also read through email on my phone when I'm randomly waiting for stuff. [19:02:50] possibly - is there a template at play here? [19:02:57] YuviPanda: wait… how do you set digest mode? [19:02:58] tfinc: phabricator is adding trello/kanban style 'boards' in the future as well https://secure.phabricator.com/T1344 [19:02:59] ragesoss: ideally we want to shift that to 320px [19:03:04] mhurd: moment, let me find the link [19:03:11] but i don't know what effect that would have on desktop [19:03:27] jdlrobson: no template, but all the images on that page use the upright parameter so they aren't overly tall against the text sections they need t align with. [19:03:32] mhurd: digest mode does make it harder to respond to threads, so I do it only for lists I won't be actively responding to [19:03:42] YuviPanda: ah [19:04:03] ragesoss: we are entering the parser dunes. Not sure if you want to go there. [19:04:07] jdlrobson: but the whole concept of 'upright' formatting is much less relevant on mobile, where text and image don't wrap against each other. [19:04:44] *I* didn't go into any parser dunes. I just said I wanted images to look good and big on my screen. Is that too much to ask? [19:05:22] tfinc: just checked my dev acct and i don’t think i can push build... [19:05:37] ragesoss: i'm just saying this is a tricky problem to get right [19:05:38] mhurd: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/options/wikitech-l - ask for password reminder if you don't have it, and then set digest (I think) [19:05:55] because of the way the parser works [19:06:05] (03CR) 10Dr0ptp4kt: "Not sure. We're going to sunset the app. The goal is to have an HTML5-based version built into MobileFrontend." [apps/firefox/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120975 (owner: 10Dr0ptp4kt) [19:06:14] I don't know enough about the upright parameter and how that works [19:06:19] jdlrobson: :-) [19:06:30] if it's in the control of wikipedia editors it's probably easier to fix [19:06:35] if it's in the parser we are doomed [19:06:40] YuviPanda: thank you x10!!!! [19:07:07] jdlrobson: it's probably in the parser, because it's a native feature of image thumb syntax. [19:07:33] mhurd: then brion will have to push tomorrow then [19:07:45] (03CR) 10Siebrand: "You can merge, but you'll be merging with i18n debt." [apps/firefox/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120975 (owner: 10Dr0ptp4kt) [19:09:01] errg [19:09:09] jdlrobson: but images without 'upright' are nearly as bad, if you're on a tablet. [19:09:27] ragesoss: file a bug with some screenshots as maybe i'm not clearly understanding your problems [19:09:38] i'll see if there's anything we can do [19:09:38] jdlrobson: will do. [19:09:44] thanks :) [19:10:40] mhurd: :) [19:10:43] gah, lost connection [19:10:45] * YuviPanda goes to look at logs [19:11:18] not too bad [19:12:22] mhurd: GMail filters also has a very powerful 'filter messages like these' functionality that I use all the time. [19:13:56] dr0ptp4kt: not sure if it went through, but I saw the zero patch. I don't see a feature flag? Or did I rebase the wrong patchset / looking at wrong thing? [19:15:52] grabbing lunch [19:41:03] (03PS1) 10Yuvipanda: Make new alpha release [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121138 [19:41:33] (03CR) 10Yuvipanda: [C: 032 V: 032] Make new alpha release [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121138 (owner: 10Yuvipanda) [19:58:59] violetto: ping [20:00:45] *lunch* [20:00:46] YuviPanda: sup [20:01:50] jgonera: estimation mtg ? [20:02:29] awjr I miscalculated distance and I'm still on my way to the office... Sorry [20:03:04] I should get there in 10 minutes... [20:04:22] ok jgonera, we'll go ahead and start [20:04:36] ok [20:06:46] kaldari: jdlrobson MaxSem http://hatjitsu.wmflabs.org/24066 [20:06:49] jgonera: ^ [20:07:13] violetto: ping? saw the design on mobile-l? [20:08:23] YuviPanda: the article history? [20:08:40] violetto: ya. thoughts on the red/green icons+bytecount? [20:09:43] YuviPanda: we've been talking about dropping the red/green color associations [20:09:50] YuviPanda: we should start doing it now [20:10:01] violetto: ah, I'll stay off it then. [20:10:04] the colors I mean. [20:10:18] violetto: do respond on mobile-l or the trello card :) [20:10:56] jdlrobson: ping [20:11:22] YuviPanda: mhm [20:17:49] jdlrobson can you open the door for me? [20:17:54] jdlrobson: patchset 3 on this https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/110196/ is ready to merge, I've added comments about how you can run the style checker and how jenkins runs it [20:18:00] you on 3rd jgonera? [20:21:58] YuviPanda: do you know if https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/118594/ is in the latest alpha cut? i've been using my home device for the alpha cuts, don't want to punch in my creds on the test device here [20:22:17] dr0ptp4kt: it should be. [20:22:33] dr0ptp4kt: I also just pushed out an alpha a few minutes ago. But it should be in the previous alpha as well. [20:22:44] YuviPanda: cool, alright [20:23:01] dr0ptp4kt: the zero enabling patch doesn't seem to have a feature flag? or did I rebase wrong PS? [20:23:24] YuviPanda, mhurd Regarding Article edit history. As discussed, Yuvi already has a list of contributors which meets our legal requirements. The IOS app solution was discussed in the last meeting - Monte can reuse mobile web, build it natively or use the list of contributors that Yuvi has. Any solution that helps us meet the legal requirements for the MVP will work. This is also noted on the trello board. [20:23:33] mhurd: i see that https://trello.com/b/4S47MdDJ/mobile-app-sprint-26-editing-workflow-part-3 had 12 points completed. did the rest get moved over to sprint 27 ? [20:23:41] is that what you were talking about this morning? [20:23:55] jgonera: http://hatjitsu.wmflabs.org/24066 [20:23:56] YuviPanda: the simple feature flag version is https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/120593/ [20:24:15] vbamba: no, I don't have 'list of contributors' yet. I have 'my contributions' which is completely different :) The android app currently meets the legal requirements by listing license and linking to the history at the bottom of each article [20:24:23] vbamba: looks like there *was* confusion :) [20:24:35] vbamba: the stuff I was doing now has nothing at all to do with legal requirements :) [20:25:18] I see [20:25:39] (03CR) 10Yuvipanda: [C: 04-1] Feature flag the Wikipedia Zero detection, instead of Settings preference. (031 comment) [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120593 (owner: 10Dr0ptp4kt) [20:25:42] what happens when you click on the history link in Android then? [20:26:09] vbamba: it takes you to the website on an external browser (for now). If I have more spare time I might implement it in the app itself, but as you said it is not needed for MVP. [20:26:12] mhurd: .. ? [20:26:17] Does it open up a browser page with the desktop version of article history? [20:26:34] ahh got it. [20:26:38] vbamba: :) [20:26:44] YuviPanda: do you know what our point status was at last sprint end ? [20:27:00] tfinc: yes they moved to 27 [20:27:31] The minimum legal requirement is a direct link to a page that shows a list of contributors [20:27:33] tfinc: sry was grabbing lunches [20:28:12] so Im guessing what you have, probably meets the legal requirement (probably - only since I haven't seen it) [20:28:14] i believe they were the 8pt “logged out editor” cards [20:28:16] (03PS2) 10Dr0ptp4kt: Feature flag the Wikipedia Zero detection, instead of Settings preference. [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120593 [20:28:26] YuviPanda: ^ there you have it [20:28:29] cool, thanks YuviPanda [20:28:30] mhurd: how many points were carried over ? [20:28:44] YuviPanda: how goes pruning the bug column in sprint 27 ? [20:28:47] vbamba: indeed. [20:28:56] tfinc: so I'm putting labels on the ones that I think shouldn't be archived. [20:29:03] tfinc: 8pts for each, 16 total believe [20:29:13] *i believe* [20:29:29] YuviPanda: feel free to create a temp column so that you can archive easily [20:29:50] tfinc: there are about 40 or 50 cards, I don't want to drag each one to another column :( [20:30:21] YuviPanda: you wont have to if you move the labeled cards to a temp column. archive the bug list and move them back [20:30:22] tfinc: ok, I've put labels on the ones that seem relevant to Android. mhurd can you take a pass for iOS bugs? [20:30:43] tfinc: right, that's much easier. [20:30:53] YuviPanda: ya [20:31:14] mhurd: can you also archive the ones without labels? :D [20:31:28] android one? [20:31:39] mhurd: yeah, bugello just dumped all open bugs ever [20:31:39] YuviPanda: anroid ones? [20:32:04] mhurd: essentially, after you rescue the iOS cards that are useful, archive all the other cards that have no labels on them? [20:32:20] so to confirm - ok to archive all andoid cards in sprint 27 to do which don’t have labels [20:32:33] mhurd: indeed! [20:32:38] YuviPanda: got it [20:32:42] mhurd: ty! [20:33:09] (03CR) 10Yuvipanda: [C: 032 V: 032] "Thanke :)" [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120593 (owner: 10Dr0ptp4kt) [20:33:13] dr0ptp4kt: merged :) [20:33:58] YuviPanda: gracias. i take it the alpha version that's out there is using the other patch? [20:34:04] YuviPanda: archive, not move to backlog? [20:34:09] dr0ptp4kt: it's not using either patch :( [20:34:28] mhurd: yeah, archive. they're duplicates, or commons app bugs, or bugs that already have cards for them in another form. [20:34:37] YuviPanda: k [20:34:39] YuviPanda: okay, so just tap the checkbox , right? [20:34:41] mhurd: I'll deal with bugzilla commenting as we close them :) [20:34:48] YuviPanda: k [20:34:57] YuviPanda: don't have it installed as not at home, and all [20:35:00] dr0ptp4kt: yeah. I'll make another alpha release this week, though. [20:35:01] (that is turn on devmode) [20:35:05] YuviPanda: sweet thx [20:35:18] dr0ptp4kt: :) If you want to, I can set you up with build / alpha publishing stuff too [20:35:49] YuviPanda: for backup, yeah, probably best to get both brion and me on there i suppose [20:36:34] dr0ptp4kt: brion is already on there. I'll work on getting you there. You need our signing keys, I'll email tfinc about it. [20:37:14] YuviPanda: cool, i'm good with whatever [20:53:25] dr0ptp4kt: I can walk you through an alpha release. We could make a release tomorrow or the day after :) [20:54:53] hey aharoni. got a moment? [20:55:50] YuviPanda: amama [20:55:57] YuviPanda: cool. hey, would you please add me to the reviewers list for the android patches you want me to review? if there are commits you want publish-merged if they pass my code review muster, lemme know which ones. otherwise, i'll just +/-{0,1,2} as appropriate [20:56:10] aharoni: சரி சரி [20:59:02] jdlrobson: idle question, what command do you use to run a browser test in your environment? [20:59:04] aharoni: so, next sprint one of the things we have planned is 'RTL fixing' [21:02:42] (03CR) 10Dr0ptp4kt: [C: 031] "This amended patchset seems to behave the same as the earlier one, it just has the startup URL as well." [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/111485 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [21:02:46] aharoni: https://trello.com/c/IbObyKyh/5-rtl-hygiene [21:04:24] aharoni: (it is open to public commenting) [21:05:18] YuviPanda: tfinc: finished triage [21:05:26] awjr|lunch: I just realized. You can email cards to Trello. Maybe we can filter just the new-bug mail cards and directly email them to trello? :D [21:05:27] added labels too [21:05:47] mhurd: woot, thanke [21:05:59] YuviPanda: whoa! cool. patches welcome :) http://hatjitsu.wmflabs.org/24066 [21:06:01] derp [21:06:04] https://github.com/wikimedia/bingle [21:06:06] hehe [21:06:06] YuviPanda: ^ [21:06:14] awjr|lunch: yeah, I'll try to pitch in sometime [21:06:19] :D [21:06:27] awjr|lunch: the thing I *actually* want to do is fix bugzilla so we get a realtime stream of all changes properly. [21:06:38] that would be nice [21:06:41] awjr|lunch: I have that for gerrit (it pushes into a redis queue, so easy to consume without any reliability issues) [21:06:50] awjr|lunch: so would need to do for bz as well [21:07:19] i think you can write modules/extensions for BZ but i dont really know anything about that [21:07:28] awjr|lunch: yeah, that's also perl. Eugh. [21:07:36] oh that's right, that's why i never got into it :p [21:07:39] awjr|lunch: ;) [21:07:47] awjr|lunch: although I wouldn't mind. I like doing things in random languages [21:07:54] YuviPanda: maybe tfinc would be into writing something, iirc he's a perl fan [21:08:04] awjr|lunch: oh? mmm, that'll be nice ;) [21:09:48] (03PS1) 10Jdlrobson: Fix the watchlist header [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121241 [21:11:04] (03CR) 10Mhurd: "Siebrand, here's context:" [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120500 (owner: 10Mhurd) [21:14:23] YuviPanda: sorry, back [21:14:25] looking [21:14:40] aharoni: I've a checklist there. Anything fundamental I'm missing? [21:15:50] YuviPanda: looks good [21:16:30] aharoni: ok. Think you'll have time to test them out as I make 'em? :) [21:17:03] yes [21:18:23] aharoni: ty! [21:26:34] mhurd: btw, hangout tells me you haven't closed the hangout for deisgn yet. [21:26:49] awjr|lunch: nice talk on Open Schtuff [21:26:56] YuviPanda: doh! that’s prob why my cpu has been pegged [21:27:02] mhurd: hahaha :D [21:27:12] good catch! hehe [21:27:17] mhurd: yw [21:27:18] :) [21:27:19] thanks chrismcmahon :) [21:27:35] YuviPanda: :) [21:27:53] tfinc: I pushed out a new alpha a couple hours ago. mailed out to mobile-l too :) [21:28:12] YuviPanda: i was wondering what was going on. 2 or 3 times i was going to bring up the performance montior but got distracted [21:28:23] YuviPanda: i'm eager to test it. the rest of the zero team (espeically dan) are really eager to test [21:28:41] awjr: in the late 90s I often found myself justifying OSS to Enterprise. good times. [21:28:50] tfinc: woo! the mobile-l post contained links on how to opt in, but I'm around for another 15m if you've any questions about that. [21:28:51] oh man [21:29:10] tfinc: Zero is still off by default in this alpha (you have to turn it on in settings). It will be on by default from next. [21:29:47] mhurd: :) [21:29:52] i think in the mid-90s i found a thrown-out redhat book with i think 7 redhat install cds still intact. thus began my adventure with linux :) [21:30:06] awwww! [21:30:16] YuviPanda: i was sleep deprived yesterday but today i have no excuse :) [21:30:22] * YuviPanda somehow got his hands on a Ubuntu 8.04? or something. [21:30:36] mhurd: :) I took my painkillers an hour ago so should get terrible in about 20m [21:30:48] YuviPanda: hand? [21:30:58] mhurd: yea [21:31:07] YuviPanda: :( [21:33:43] awjr: I always framed it as an investment: you can invest time in OSS, or you can invest $$$ in commercial code. Your $$$ gives you the right to call an 800 number when the software screws up. Your time allows you to fix the software when it screws up. [21:34:23] MaxSem: jdlrobson what's the RL module that does template delivery? [21:34:31] nice, chrismcmahon [21:35:01] YuviPanda mobile.template [21:36:00] jdlrobson: the RL module type. Looks like MFResourceLoaderModule [21:36:24] yep that's right YuviPanda [21:36:38] jdlrobson: ok! [21:36:41] awjr: it's always 1997 somewhere [21:36:48] lol [21:39:54] (03PS3) 10Mhurd: Main menu - now with icons! [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120982 [21:42:53] jgonera: hey so for the photo uploads [21:43:21] how do we distinguish between photo uploads from the uploads page vs. photos from the lead image cta [21:50:00] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 031] "L10n reviewed." [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120982 (owner: 10Mhurd) [21:51:11] mhurd: sent email about user agents. [21:51:12] dr0ptp4kt: ^ [21:53:53] DarTar: I'm remote meet over hangout? [21:54:11] hey kenanwang: I sent you a note yesterday that I have a conflict [21:54:15] did you get it? [21:54:52] I suggested that we move the check in to Friday if that works for you [21:55:04] mhurd: how do iOS apps do versioning? [21:55:17] mhurd: Android has an integer identifier and a string. iOS? [21:55:53] YuviPanda: iirc it’s comparable [21:56:18] mhurd: right. [21:56:36] kenanwang: i just saw your question around photo uploads - what exactly are you looking for? [21:56:42] kenanwang: i'm sure i can help you there [21:57:45] kenanwang: you can pick any time from my calendar, Friday my schedule is open after 10.30 [21:58:15] let me block 11-12 [22:00:55] ok DarTar I'll find a time [22:01:18] jdlrobson: hey I'm trying to compare revert rates for photos uploaded from lead image cta vs. uploads page [22:02:16] kenanwang: what are you using to count revert rates? Have you got a schema? [22:02:24] dr0ptp4kt: I added you to two patches :) [22:02:37] MobileWebUploads has funnels - upload means Special:Uploads and article means Lead photo upload [22:04:19] YuviPanda: cool thx. i only see one in the review queue. do you think the other one is stuck or something? [22:04:42] dr0ptp4kt: bah, I added *two* people to one patch. [22:04:42] also, you want me to +2 and publish if appropriate? or +2 and not publish (if appropriate)? [22:04:45] clearly I need to sleep [22:04:55] ok... so then i need to be able to tie those to reverts somehow which is what I'm not sure about jdlrobson [22:05:11] dr0ptp4kt: +2 and merge, and maybe we can do one push a day? I don't mind daily alphas :D [22:05:23] kenanwang: i guess you could see if they still exist? [22:05:31] YuviPanda: get your sleep. okay, got ya. yeah, daily alphas is The Truth [22:05:46] dr0ptp4kt: :) Indeed. The Truth, The Way, and The Thingy. [22:05:56] if the file no longer exists on commons it will give some indication that it might have been reverted. I'm not sure where and if reverts are logged [22:06:18] note we do have this http://mobile-reportcard.wmflabs.org/graphs/deleted-uploads [22:06:24] not sure who created this and how it works though [22:06:28] right... [22:06:34] that was me, I think. [22:06:39] that graph could possibly be updated to take into account the funnel? [22:06:59] we wouldn't even need to update the graph really [22:07:02] jdlrobson: it gets name of file uploaded from eventlogging, and then checks if they were deleted at any point. [22:07:25] for now i just need a one time analysis [22:25:12] kenanwang, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Schema:MobileWebUploads funnel field [22:25:35] oh, I guess you already know [22:27:04] jgonera: kaldari im taking a look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/121241/1 now [22:27:39] thanks! [22:27:45] thanks awjr [22:28:33] grumble grumble im annoyed about the mobile view toggle bug [22:30:22] (03CR) 10Awjrichards: [C: 032] Fix the watchlist header [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121241 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [22:30:30] jgonera: ^^ can you please add that to the swat page for today? [22:30:50] swat? deployments page? [22:31:07] er yeah, deployments page for today's swat deployment [22:31:34] hm, I'm not sure what a swat deployment is. does this mean we don't have to do LD ourselves? [22:32:00] greg-g can explain better jgonera but basically yes [22:33:22] jgonera: see [Engineering] SWAT deploys starting next week (week of March 17th) [22:33:24] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix the watchlist header [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121241 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [22:33:27] (email) [22:34:24] or https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/SWAT_deploys [22:34:31] awjr, I can't log in to wikitech.wikimedia.org... I thought the user name/password was the same as in gerrit [22:34:48] hmm fogot password link? [22:37:37] "There was either an authentication database error or you are not allowed to update your external account." [22:37:38] :/ [22:37:49] that's after logging in with temporary password [22:38:19] ruhroh [22:38:25] i'll add it [22:38:33] who should I contact? I'm pretty sure it worked before... [22:38:49] jgonera: ask in #wikimedia-operations [22:41:07] jgonera: i think i am getting the same problem... [22:43:16] :( [22:45:27] greg-g: do you happen to already be logged in to wikitech? it would be nice to get https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/121241/ out today [22:51:32] awjr: jdlrobson added [22:51:40] ty greg-g [23:00:42] (03CR) 10Dr0ptp4kt: [C: 031] Refinement pass on editing summary panel. (031 comment) [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120173 (owner: 10Mhurd) [23:08:20] kenanwang: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62706 is in this current iteration but might be worth being tackled next iteration since during the next iteration we will also be writing a browser test for this feature to ensure it works [23:08:23] cc awjr ^ [23:08:27] thoughts? [23:08:35] (mingle card = https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/mobile/cards/1777) [23:14:31] seems sensible to me jdlrobson [23:16:05] ok kenanwang i'm just going to move it - feel free to move it back if you deem the need :) [23:16:28] ok that's fine jdlrobson [23:16:40] thanks i've updated the QA card too to reflect that [23:21:41] (03CR) 10Dr0ptp4kt: [C: 031] "Works. One strange thing a user may do is partially pull to refresh and then rotate. This may even happy by accident. But I think that's p" [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/120500 (owner: 10Mhurd) [23:22:08] (03PS1) 10MaxSem: Fix the watchlist header [extensions/MobileFrontend] (wmf/1.23wmf19) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121277 [23:22:21] (03CR) 10MaxSem: [C: 032] Fix the watchlist header [extensions/MobileFrontend] (wmf/1.23wmf19) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121277 (owner: 10MaxSem) [23:23:14] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix the watchlist header [extensions/MobileFrontend] (wmf/1.23wmf19) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/121277 (owner: 10MaxSem) [23:23:42] dr0ptp4kt: do you still have notes to add from SoS today? [23:24:05] im about to post the notes but want to make sure evyerthing you wanted there is included [23:24:54] awjr, i do, five mins. [23:25:02] awjr, thx for reminder [23:25:03] np [23:31:42] awjr, done. i added four bullets requesting new cards. in the analytics dashboard case maybe there's an old card that can be resurrected. but it's new work. [23:32:01] thanks dr0ptp4kt [23:32:20] dr0ptp4kt: any particular status for those? [23:33:30] awjr, you're welcome, and thank you again. just added statuses. [23:34:03] cool dude thanks [23:34:06] is that what you were looking for? [23:34:08] agaian :p [23:34:11] sec [23:34:21] yeah that's find dr0ptp4kt i'll make them in a sec [23:34:28] awjr, thanks [23:36:34] dr0ptp4kt: Firefox OS Wikipedia zero detection - is that a dependency on … apps? [23:38:42] eh dr0ptp4kt i made best guesses on dependencies - i added the cards to the wall, feel free to move around as needed [23:41:15] jgonera: are you still blocked by the VE changes for 1520? [23:45:33] awjr, yeah, brion will do the code revew on the ffos w0 detection [23:45:51] cool [23:49:49] im about to take off - anyone need anything from me? [23:50:42] awjr, yes, I'll ask Trevor for an estimate now [23:51:12] ok jgonera good; i am sure you are eager to get that work wrapped up ;) [23:52:02] jgonera: does VE have their own irc channel, or where do they typically chat on irc? [23:53:13] awjr, Trevor says that they had the quarterly review today, but it's over now and it's the first thing he'll do tomorrow [23:53:28] awjr, #wikimedia-visualeditor [23:53:35] awesome thanks jgonera :) [23:54:05] ok im outta here, see you all tomorrow [23:54:12] awjr, sorry, it's #mediawiki-visualeditor