[00:27:51] Maryana, do you know what % is mobile traffic of all traffic nowadays? [00:28:09] readership is at close to 30% last we checked [00:29:25] ok, thanks [00:39:41] (03CR) 10Kaldari: WikiGrok interface for mobile (031 comment) [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/154299 (owner: 10Kaldari) [00:41:17] MaxSem: hmm, looks like merging the cookie changes didn't fix https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70312 on beta labs :( [00:41:29] http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/w/index.php?title=Test [00:42:56] 3MobileFrontend / 3stable: mobile redirect only works on canonical URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70312#c3 (10Ryan Kaldari) Hmm, still seems to be broken on beta labs :( [00:48:42] 3MobileFrontend / 3stable: mobile redirect only works on canonical URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70312#c4 (10Ryan Kaldari) 5NEW>3RESO/WON According to Max this is on purpose. Non-canonical URLs are not redirected by Varnish in order to avoid causing issues with API calls, etc. [00:49:12] 3MobileFrontend / 3stable: mobile redirect only works on canonical URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70312 (10Ryan Kaldari) [00:49:12] 3MobileFrontend / 3Feature requests: normal diff links don't redirect to MobileDiff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61489 (10Ryan Kaldari) [00:54:26] 3MobileFrontend / 3Feature requests: normal diff links don't redirect to MobileDiff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61489#c6 (10Ryan Kaldari) Apparently, there were two separate issues with this bug: 1. We weren't trying to redirect regular diffs to the MobileDiff view (this is fixed by https://gerrit.wik... [01:05:41] 3MobileFrontend / 3Feature requests: normal diff links don't redirect to MobileDiff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61489 (10Ryan Kaldari) 5RESO/FIX>3REOP [01:06:12] 3MobileFrontend / 3Feature requests: normal diff links don't redirect to MobileDiff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61489 (10Ryan Kaldari) [01:13:41] 3MobileFrontend / 3Feature requests: normal diff links don't redirect to MobileDiff - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/61489 (10Ryan Kaldari) [04:54:34] (03PS1) 10Legoktm: Use "new static" instead of get_class [extensions/JsonConfig] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158051 [04:54:46] :o [04:54:50] not to -dev? [05:00:18] legoktm, why are you still awake and writing code. [05:00:39] it's only 10pm! [05:02:47] oh yeah, timezones are a thing now [05:02:50] * Ironholds goes to make dinner [05:34:17] (03CR) 10Yurik: [C: 032] Use "new static" instead of get_class [extensions/JsonConfig] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158051 (owner: 10Legoktm) [05:34:22] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Use "new static" instead of get_class [extensions/JsonConfig] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158051 (owner: 10Legoktm) [05:49:41] 3MobileFrontend / 3stable: Lack of attribution in mobile image viewer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69656#c36 (10Erik Moeller) We should strive to bring the attribution logic of the desktop and mobile version in alignment. There's a lot of complexity here, and it'll only grow as we expand into the remai... [06:27:42] 3MobileFrontend / 3stable: mobile redirect only works on canonical URLs - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70312#c5 (10Jon) Max for completeness can you elaborate? What caching problems might arise? [06:52:23] (03CR) 10Florianschmidtwelzow: [C: 031] "Great! :)" [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158006 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [09:01:35] (03CR) 10Siebrand: [C: 031] "i18n/L10n reviewed." [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158006 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [14:44:57] Hello all, I wanted to bring to attention a possible problem with the implementation of the mobile site. I take it you can select common edit summaries before saving. Well, as it turns out, many new users are saving their edits as "Fixed typo" when it is far from a small change such as that [14:45:12] Not only is the edit summary misleading, but many patrollers become confused and assume the user is trying to intentionally fool them as a means to let their vandalistic edits get through [14:45:40] In the end, we get a lot of new users being treated as vandals, which is not good [14:46:42] So... I wanted to question this feature of having pre-supplied edit summaries [14:55:03] MusikAnimal: you should email the mobile-l mailing list or open a bug. or wait for Deskana (the mobile apps PM) to come back [14:55:34] Thanks, I was just about to file a Bugzilla report, actually [14:59:27] MusikAnimal: thanks! I do see a slightly worryingly large number of enwiki blocks of people registering on mobile apps (see last graph at http://mobile-reportcard.wmflabs.org/#apps-graphs-tab - might take a while to load) [14:59:35] MusikAnimal: do provide examples, etc in your bug report. [14:59:49] will do [15:01:37] MusikAnimal: thanks! [15:25:56] (03CR) 10Brion VIBBER: [C: 032 V: 032] Simplification of saved alert wording. [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/157975 (owner: 10Mhurd) [15:26:50] (03CR) 10Brion VIBBER: [C: 032 V: 032] This didn't play nice with ios 6. [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/157977 (owner: 10Mhurd) [15:41:44] 3MobileFrontend / 3Feature requests: Misuse of "Fixed typo" edit summary / add tag for when canned edit summaries are used - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70349 (10MusikAnimal) 3UNCO p:3Unprio s:3normal a:3None Hello, I'd like to propose that a tag be added to edits with "canned edit summaries". T... [15:45:27] 3MobileFrontend / 3Feature requests: Misuse of "Fixed typo" edit summary / add tag for when canned edit summaries are used - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70349#c1 (10Bingle) Prioritization and scheduling of this bug is tracked on Trello card https://trello.com/c/DSRYrRvO [15:49:27] 3MobileFrontend / 3Feature requests: Misuse of "Fixed typo" edit summary / add tag for when canned edit summaries are used - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70349#c2 (10MusikAnimal) As an alternative to tagging, we could prefix the edit summaries. So it may read "CES: Fixed typo", CES standing for canned ed... [15:54:12] 3MobileFrontend / 3Feature requests: Misuse of "Fixed typo" edit summary / add tag for when canned edit summaries are used - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70349#c3 (10Isarra) 5UNCO>3NEW Card not found, it says. Could you please handle this stuff somewhere where those whom the bug affects can actually... [16:49:15] YuviPanda: when I create a new Schema for event logging (by creating the wiki page), do I need to do anything else to get that table to be created in the db? [16:49:28] dbrant: nope! just send an event to it and it autocreates [16:49:48] YuviPanda: ah I see, I need to send at least one event to it? [16:50:22] yes [16:50:24] one valid event [16:57:13] kristenlans: i'm in a data meeting that looks like it's gonna run long, so i might be a few min late to standup [16:57:23] i'll put $$ in da jar :-P [16:58:26] Maryana 10-4 [16:58:34] running a bit late clearing out some errands, will be online hangout for the morning meetings [17:16:25] staaaaandup time [17:16:28] YuviPanda dbrant mhurd: standing [17:16:57] kristenlans: gah, missed it again. coming [17:31:52] brion: any luck on pluralization? [17:32:08] bearND: no time yet :( hope to poke at it soonish in next few days [17:32:20] brion: ok, np [17:32:53] brion mhurd vbamba Deskana dbrant bearND yuvipanda: Didn’t get to mention it in stnadup, but I have a doctors appointment from 11:30-12:30 PT today. May be a few niutes late for 12:30 iOS8 meet. [17:33:36] ok [17:33:46] i’ll be in my lunch meeting but will have made some notes for monte beforehand :D [17:33:52] ok see y’all in a bit [17:34:21] cool [17:39:56] Maryana kaldari jgonera: here is the bug that maxSem mentioned that Erik commented on: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69656 [17:41:04] he's a little behind [17:41:05] i'll reply [17:50:01] Maryana, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Amazon_kindle_3G_cannot_login [17:51:56] 3MobileFrontend / 3stable: No message when anon attempts to edit a protected page - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70047#c2 (10Kristen Lans) ChrisMcMahon, I confirmed with Maryana that this is a bug (not by design). [17:59:41] 3MobileFrontend / 3stable: Lack of attribution in mobile image viewer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69656#c37 (10Maryana Pinchuk) (In reply to Erik Moeller from comment #36) > Stripping out all links from the attribution as the mobile version does > right now) is problematic, as an author's name often o... [18:11:51] Hello all, I was here earlier inquiring about the "canned edit summaries" of the mobile site. One thing I'm still not sure about... are the canned edit summaries a pull-down list that the user can choose from? When I tried it out myself I see only a text field for the edit summary, with a placeholder text for suggested edit summaries [18:12:39] (03PS1) 10Florianschmidtwelzow: Show sorry toast when logged out, too [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158144 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70047) [18:12:52] From when I was talking to others it sounded like there was an actual finite list of edit summaries for the user to choose from, maybe this is just for new users or hasn't been fully rolled out, as I don't see a pull-down [18:13:17] MusikAnimal: it's not on the mobile site, only on the mobile android / iOS apps [18:14:38] YuviPanda: so then, should I use a different UUID in the Session schema than the generic "appInstallID" that is passed with every page view? [18:14:43] I see, that makes sense. Well if you or anyone else here is interested, I've filed a Bugzilla report on possibly reworking this feature due to common misuse of supplied edit summaries: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70349 [18:14:54] thanks! [18:14:59] dbrant: you should use a different one, just out of principle (never re-use them across schemas) [18:15:47] dbrant: although, in this case, since we are just re-instrumenting and there's going to be another way of getting the exact same data, you should ask analytisc (Ironholds in #wikimedia-analytics) [18:17:11] YuviPanda: what am I asking, though? [18:17:36] dude, I'm /here/ [18:17:39] oh [18:17:40] also about to go into a 1:1 with toby ;p [18:17:42] but then free [18:17:44] Ironholds: when did *you* show up? [18:18:07] two, three days ago? [18:18:12] heh [18:19:15] Ironholds: soooo.... dbrant is building an eventlogging based, client side sampled method of collecting pageviews and sessions and pageviews per session, and wants to know if we should re-use UUIDs so we can compare the Hive based answers with the EL based answers [18:24:12] 3MobileFrontend / 3Feature requests: Misuse of "Fixed typo" edit summary / add tag for when canned edit summaries are used - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70349#c4 (10MusikAnimal) It's come to my attention that the issue is specific to the mobile apps, that have the pre-supplied "canned" edit summary butt... [18:32:57] 3Wikipedia App / 3General/Unknown: Misuse of "Fixed typo" edit summary / add tag for when canned edit summaries are used - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70349#c5 (10Maryana Pinchuk) (In reply to MusikAnimal from comment #4) > It's come to my attention that the issue is specific to the mobile apps, > that... [19:02:05] okay, back [19:02:10] dbrant|lunch, tell me when you are also back :) [19:02:22] Ironholds: back! [19:03:43] 3MobileFrontend / 3stable: Lack of attribution in mobile image viewer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69656#c38 (10Ryan Kaldari) I agree with most of what Maryana said. Duplicating the desktop UI on mobile would be a big mess and would not be very usable on a small touch device. This is why we provide a v... [19:07:19] dbrant, cool! [19:07:22] Sorry, went for a smoke [19:07:29] okay, what are the questions and what are you doing? [19:09:42] Ironholds: So, I'm implementing an event logging schema that will be used by the Apps, where it logs the number of pages that the user browsed within a certain amount of time (a "session" of sorts)... [19:09:49] Ironholds: ...and the question is whether I can use the same UUID in those events as the UUID that we already send with each page load request. [19:10:04] (would it have any privacy implications...) [19:10:23] I would strongly advise against doing that. [19:10:38] and, what period of time are you using, and is it just pages per session or what? [19:11:42] 3MobileFrontend / 3stable: Lack of attribution in mobile image viewer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69656#c39 (10Erik Moeller) OK. Most licenses do give us some leeway in terms of "reasonableness" of how attribution requirements are met in practice. There's been lots of discussion about this especially... [19:12:25] dbrant ^ [19:12:28] Ironholds: we're defining a session based on a "timeout" period. i.e. if the user comes back to the app after a certain idle time (e.g. 10 minutes, tbd), then the previous session data is sent to event logging. [19:12:57] gotcha. [19:13:08] that's pretty standard. [19:13:24] Next questions: what datapoints are you gathering and when were you asked to do this/when was this request carded? [19:14:53] dbrant, bah, keep forgetting to ping ;p [19:15:15] Ironholds: it's based around this: https://trello.com/c/r6WUxTWI and this: http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/AppsReadership [19:16:18] ta [19:16:27] Ironholds: basically we'd like to have more in-depth data about our users' behavior, beyond the events that we're already logging. (Also, those cards were made before we were certain about what kind of access we'd have to the raw analytics data...) [19:17:40] Gotcha. Well, yes. Do not duplicate UUIDs between datasets. [19:18:02] If you have any other questions about the implementation or the research and methodology around session analysis, do lemme know :) [19:18:40] Ironholds: got it! thanks. Yes, I'm sure I'll have more questions; I'll know who to turn to :) [19:19:09] sure :) [19:21:41] 3MobileFrontend / 3General/Unknown: References not resolved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70231#c3 (10starshollow) What means " .hiddenStructure"? Who can change this? This is not my crime;-) [19:24:57] 3MobileFrontend / 3General/Unknown: References not resolved - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70231#c4 (10Florian) -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:HiddenStructure [19:46:30] 3Wikipedia App / 3iOS App: 'Speaker icon' for pronounciation in Wikipedia Articles looks fuzzy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70364 (10Vibha Bamba) 3NEW p:3Unprio s:3normal a:3None See 'Leanardo Da Vinci' Article on retina screens. The speaker icon looks very fuzzy. [20:02:49] (03CR) 10MaxSem: Beta: Apply this page has issues to talk pages (032 comments) [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158006 (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [20:07:25] Stupid IRC. [20:07:26] Hello, I'm Dan. [20:07:26] kristenlans: Got a second? [20:07:52] Deskana: in a meeting, but I’d love to catch up after. Free at 2 PM PT [20:08:07] kristenlans: Okay, well, FYI we're adding some cards to the top of the current sprint to fix iOS 8 bugs. [20:08:25] kristenlans: I realise it's not our standard practice, but Vibha, Monte and I agreed that this is a "drop everything and fix it" kind of situation. [20:08:38] kristenlans: I'm sending out a longer email to mobile-l about it, but I just wanted to let you know. [20:09:05] kristenlans: Deviations from standard operation protocol should be reported to the resident scrum master, I think! [20:09:58] Deskana: indeed ;-) Let’s just make sure we’re clear about what drops out of the sprint to make room new work. [20:12:44] kristenlans: Good point. We can sync up later to figure that out. I'll throw something on your calendar. [20:14:27] Deskana: awesome, thanks [20:23:34] mhurd, vbamba: First two cards are in [20:23:34] https://trello.com/c/zzZSpZDd/38-investigate-why-pictures-are-not-appearing-in-recent-in-ios-8-beta [20:23:41] Deskana: woohoo thanks! [20:23:44] That one is our top priority right now, figuring out if it's a trivial display bug or whether it's a serious core data problem [20:23:46] Then this [20:23:49] https://trello.com/c/sOvC5Wm4/37-fix-toc-web-view-miniaturisation-bug-in-ios-8-beta [20:23:57] I'm putting the third card in now, and also composing the email [20:24:48] mhurd: Let's model the former as a spike. [20:24:58] mhurd: What amount of time do you think makes sense for this scoping/investigation? [20:26:02] Deskana: 1hr should do [20:26:07] mhurd: Okay, done. [20:26:27] FYI, there's a label for iOS compatibility issues. [20:26:29] It's red. [20:26:38] k [20:27:27] mhurd, vbamba: Thanks guys. :) [20:27:53] Deskana: yw! [20:28:59] Deskana: thanks for being flexible on this! and thanks vbamba for getting out in front of this too :) [20:29:42] mhurd: Oh, sure. This is super important stuff. [20:30:30] Gotta have a bit of flexibility! [20:33:29] "iOS 8 comes out on Tuesday 9th September", source? [20:33:46] vbamba: Deskana would it be ok for me to duck out of the syntax highlighting meeting at 2? [20:34:19] mhurd: Yes, absolutely. [20:34:25] Deskana: cool! [20:34:42] sjoerddebruin: My source was my lead iOS engineer (mhurd) and my designer (vbamba). :) [20:35:11] There is a keynote on that date. [20:35:49] It would probaly be a week later. [20:36:06] Last year: "On September 10, 2013, at their iPhone event, Apple announced that iOS 7 would be publicly released on September 18" [20:36:32] sjoerddebruin: Thanks for the information! If the release date is off by a week or so, then this stuff is still really important for us to do. :) [20:36:34] sjoerddebruin: fair enough. hopefully they’ll do the same [20:37:00] Apple would work faster next week. ;) [20:37:25] So if you push a update, it would be live in no time. :) [20:38:07] bearND: hey would you have a second to put the latest ios translation files into twn? [20:38:20] mhurd: sure [20:38:28] No objections. :) [20:38:58] sjoerddebruin: Thanks for chiming in. :) [20:38:59] bearND: thanks so much! we had some late changes and i’m hoping to get a few translations back by friday [20:39:30] bearND: maybe they’ll leave out the plurals this time ;) [20:39:41] sjoerddebruin: Do you mind if I reply-all to the list in response to your email? [20:40:02] Yeah, sorry for the wrong way. [20:40:13] sjoerddebruin: No worries. [20:40:42] Mostly Mail.app works fine. :/ [20:41:44] mhurd: if we want them to leave the plurals out we'd have to fuzzy the strings that have plurals. I didn't want to do that if there was a chance that Brion would get the pluralization for iOS going soon. [20:42:24] bearND: he’s not going to get to the plural support this week [20:42:32] *i don’t think* [20:43:12] bearND: i’m not familiar with fuzzy string syntax… what would we have to add? [20:44:23] Btw, the review process at Apple's side is probaly faster in the next week. [20:44:47] sjoerddebruin: that would be great :) [20:45:17] mhurd, bearND: Like "Read in 1 other language(s)" I guess? [20:45:47] mhurd: we can add the string "!!FUZZY!!" In front of the current text to mark it fuzzy. [20:46:11] mhurd: i think that's in TWN only though [20:46:32] bearND: do marking it in the qqq? then they wont add plurals? [20:47:03] mhurd: i would mark the individual translation, not the qqq [20:47:23] mhurd: but we could add a comment in the qqq not to use plurals if that's what you meant [20:47:30] bearND: that’s what you do in android? [20:48:07] mhurd: we don't do it int Android. It hasn't come up yet, at least since I've been doing TWN syncs [20:48:59] mhurd: btw, here are the strings to be imported into TWN https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:ManageMessageGroups [20:49:01] kristenlans: ok, we met to flesh out the wikitagging properties stuff & came up with a solid plan. that card now has an estimate, and there's an additional card in the pile to add to the tags :) [20:50:29] (03PS1) 10Dbrant: [WIP] Implement event logging for Sessions. [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158236 [20:51:31] bearND: time for a quick hangout? [20:51:38] sure [20:51:40] Maryana: nice! good use of that extra time :D [20:52:15] mhurd: sure [20:53:58] dbrant: We can always change the sampling rate using the 24 hour sync, right? [20:55:45] Deskana: I'm not quite familiar with that... [20:56:00] YuviPanda: ^^ [20:56:36] dbrant: Every 24 hours, we do some checks with a remote server. We fetch new CSS (if it's available), and check to see if we've flipped the anonymous editing killswitch. [20:57:06] dbrant: I thought in our meeting last week, we agreed we could also put the sampling rate in this sync. [20:57:18] dbrant: It's possible I misunderstood. Hopefully Yuvi can explain, as he knows this bit of code. [20:59:32] Deskana: oh, that! Sure, I got confused for a second. We can definitely use that to update the sampling rate. [20:59:50] dbrant: Sweet! So I said around 10% on the card. [20:59:57] Deskana: it's just one portion of the code I hadn't touched yet :) [21:01:26] dbrant: How are you deciding who gets sampled and who doesn't? [21:02:46] Deskana: based on the randomly-generated UUID for the user. (modulo the sampling rate) [21:03:00] dbrant: Do you mean the device install ID, not the UUID? [21:03:13] dbrant: AFAIK the UUID is randomly generated at each request, and not persistent for a particular user. [21:03:48] Deskana: right, it's the device install ID. (although we have unique device install IDs for each of the schemas that we use) [21:04:11] UUID is not usable anymore... [21:04:16] Since a long time ago. [21:04:35] They can even reject apps because of that. ;) [21:17:49] (03PS1) 10BearND: Change meters to just m [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158245 [21:18:04] :O [21:20:22] mhurd: ^^ [21:21:07] (03CR) 10Mhurd: [C: 032 V: 032] "Looks good! thanks!!!" [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158245 (owner: 10BearND) [21:21:14] bearND: woohoo thanks! [21:38:12] 3MobileFrontend / 3stable: Lack of attribution in mobile image viewer - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/69656#c40 (10Erik Moeller) Concise, right. I'll underpromise next time. https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/mobile-l/2014-September/007958.html I leave it with y'all. [21:39:22] (03PS1) 10BearND: Manual import of translations from TWN [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158248 [21:41:27] mhurd: I imported the new strings into TWN, marked the problematic ones as fuzzy, and imported from TWN to code. Shoudl be all set now. BTW, as you can see in the diffs, the ones I marked as !!FUZZY!! in TWN end up with a // Fuzzy comment in the iOS string files [21:41:53] bearND: awesomeness! thanks!!! [21:43:37] bearND: so hopefully tomorrow or friday we’ll have some translations :) not much had changed, but a couple strings were a bit different iirc [21:43:58] mhurd: yw, np. Yes, not too much has changed [21:51:05] mhurd: Do you have a minute to join a hangout? [21:51:29] mhurd: I sent you an invite. Join if you can. Should only take 5 minutes. :) [21:51:38] k just a sec... [22:31:12] 3Wikipedia App / 3iOS App: 'Speaker icon' for pronounciation in Wikipedia Articles looks fuzzy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70364#c1 (10Vibha Bamba) Also currently - clicking on this icon goes to the file page where the audio file is not available. [22:39:07] (03PS1) 10Kaldari: Adding some less files for the upcoming zero portal [extensions/ZeroPortal] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158260 [22:42:39] (03PS2) 10Kaldari: Adding some less files for the upcoming zero portal [extensions/ZeroPortal] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158260 [22:48:45] (03PS3) 10Kaldari: Adding some less files for the upcoming zero portal [extensions/ZeroPortal] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158260 [22:55:10] (03PS1) 10BearND: [WIP] Show ToC the first time it is available; plus hints [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158268 [23:02:56] kaldari, what article should I import from enwiki to test wikigrok? [23:03:35] jgonera: There's a commented out line of code at the top of wikigrok.js for testing. [23:04:55] kaldari, and then it should work on any article? [23:05:02] yes [23:07:36] kaldari, hm interesting, beta and alpha modes don't seem to exist anymore on my local dev instance... [23:08:01] jgonera: you'll have to add $wgMFEnableBeta = true; to your LocalSettings. [23:08:07] That's from an unrelated patch [23:08:35] jgonera: and also $wgMFEnableWikiGrok = true; [23:09:02] kaldari, when did this change? [23:09:13] jgonera: last week I think [23:09:15] I stopped using beta/alpha since we moved VE to stable I guess [23:10:02] kaldari, I think $wgMFEnableBeta = true; should be enabled by default in vagrant then [23:10:18] what was the summary of the commit that changed it? [23:10:24] core [23:10:33] oopse, wrong window :) [23:12:03] jgonera: probably [23:12:24] ok, I'll update it [23:12:33] why is it false by default? [23:13:12] 3Wikipedia App / 3iOS App: 'Speaker icon' for pronounciation in Wikipedia Articles looks fuzzy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70364#c2 (10Vibha Bamba) On Desktop - The listen link and icon open up a player in lightbox mode. This is ideal behavior. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonardo_da_Vinci [23:13:22] (03PS2) 10Dbrant: [WIP] Implement event logging for Sessions. [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158236 [23:13:28] 3Wikipedia App / 3iOS App: 'Speaker icon' for pronounciation in Wikipedia Articles looks fuzzy - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70364 (10Vibha Bamba) a:3Brion Vibber [23:13:50] (03CR) 10JGonera: [C: 04-1] WikiGrok interface for mobile (039 comments) [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/154299 (owner: 10Kaldari) [23:14:10] jgonera: Thanks! [23:14:30] sure, sorry it took me so long [23:17:03] MaxSem, do you know why Jon told you to default to false in https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/155814/ ? [23:17:29] for third parties... [23:18:20] yeah, but third parties are not our main audience, so I don't see why we should default to something we don't use... [23:18:49] MaxSem, ok, I see that it's updated in vagrant and I guess a proper config change was merged too so I think we're safe [23:19:04] but it definitely seems like a lot of hassle for something we don't need [23:23:38] Maryana, James_F references seem to be broken in mobile VE [23:25:55] jgonera: Master or production/ [23:29:31] (03CR) 10Kaldari: WikiGrok interface for mobile (037 comments) [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/154299 (owner: 10Kaldari) [23:29:45] jgonera: added some replies to your comments [23:30:23] jgonera: ryasmeen says it works for her. [23:48:01] James_F, hm, both. but I'm using desktop Chrome now, will check on a tablet [23:49:16] jgonera: it seems alright to me in ipad mini [23:49:21] ok [23:51:16] jgonera: What was broken exactly? Maybe we're missing something? [23:51:48] James_F, you would notice ;) on enwiki when I try to highlight a reference, the page scrolls to the top, on master the context doesn [23:51:58] 't show up and the shield is of wrong size [23:54:14] (03PS1) 10BearND: Manual import of translations from TWN [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158289 [23:54:43] jgonera: yes the shield size is wrong but I am getting the context menu for them [23:55:02] jgonera: Are you by any chance trying to select a basic reference? [23:55:17] no, I know I disabled them ;) [23:55:23] I'll try on an iPad later [23:56:11] ok [23:57:36] (03CR) 10Kaldari: Show anoneditwarning in stable and beta (031 comment) [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/155863 (owner: 10Florianschmidtwelzow)