[10:48:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Jdlrobson: [C: 031] "It works with Roan's Mantle patch." [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/129336 (owner: 10Jdlrobson)
[14:48:08] <phuedx>	 aha!
[14:48:24] <phuedx>	 yo jdlrobson2
[14:48:32] <phuedx>	 you weren't in -dev
[14:48:36] <jdlrobson2>	 hey hey
[14:48:36] <phuedx>	 i was flapping around
[14:48:46] <jdlrobson2>	 sorryz i usually hang around in -corefeatures and -mobile
[14:48:53] <phuedx>	 it's cool
[14:49:01] <phuedx>	 i'm all about idling in as many channels as i can
[14:49:05] <phuedx>	 for irc points
[14:49:36] <phuedx>	 so i'll comment on the patch as well but i think that pushing the mixin patch has value
[14:49:43] <phuedx>	 because we should discuss the implementations
[14:50:10] <phuedx>	 i wrote the base-class-modifier approach first (stripped down, which helped)
[14:50:30] <phuedx>	 but then i thought about the mixin approach and thought it was worthy of chatting about
[14:50:50] <phuedx>	 for that reason i've changed the commit message to EXPERIMENT
[14:51:07] <phuedx>	 as in, "we're probably going to kill this patch anyway"
[14:52:06] <phuedx>	 i think that the duplicated css thing is a problem with the mixin approach
[14:52:19] <phuedx>	 not in the delivery of the styles (yay compression!)
[14:53:10] <phuedx>	 but maybe in the performance of mobile browsers on older devices?
[14:53:29] <phuedx>	 (i'm sure you know more about this than me)
[14:54:19] <phuedx>	 but the mixin approach also has /some/ value
[14:59:03] <jdlrobson2>	 yeh my main concern is VisualEditor, Flow, MobileFrontend all use a class based approach, and at least in mobile this would cause an extremely big amount of css bloat in the current form
[15:06:03] <phuedx>	 sorry, it's sorta hard not to have a conversation in two places :)
[15:06:10] <phuedx>	 do you guys trello?
[15:06:15] <phuedx>	 we could make it three :D
[15:07:14] <phuedx>	 jdlrobson2: so with mobile are you guys always strictly aiming for minimal size?
[15:07:33] <phuedx>	 are there trade-offs?
[15:09:08] <jdlrobson2>	 phuedx: yup minimum possible
[15:09:17] <jdlrobson2>	 the main problem is we take a object orientated css approach
[15:09:20] <jdlrobson2>	 similar to VE
[15:10:23] <phuedx>	 yeah, we did that at last.fm too, and it makes a whole lotta sense
[15:10:32] <phuedx>	 i do remember the icon css getting hairy though ;)
[15:10:50] <phuedx>	 especially icons on small buttons vs big buttons with text or no text
[15:17:42] <jdlrobson2>	 phuedx: it doesn't work yet but i began the class approach - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158632
[15:41:47] <dbrant>	 bearND:  I see you've picked up the (first) Nearby card!  So then I'll pick up the second "sensor"-related card.
[15:42:12] <dbrant>	 bearND: Now, just to be sure, does this mean that you will query the server with "constant" lat/long values (until I complete the integration with the gps sensor)?
[15:43:24] <bearND>	 dbrant: I guess that would be ok then. I was looking at http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/location/strategies.html but had not added the code and permission for it.
[15:43:58] <bearND>	 dbrant: I'll just use some hard-coded values then.
[15:44:32] <dbrant>	 bearND: however you want to do it; if you've already done some work towards it, that's fine.  I can just add on the integration with the magnetic bearing sensor.
[15:53:14] <bearND>	 dbrant: i think I'll stick with using constants for lat/long for now.
[16:21:22] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10BearND: Update list of RTL languages [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158638 
[16:42:56] <wikibugs>	 3Wikipedia App / 3Generic: "description page there" link broken, links to nonexistent "File:API" - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/38756#c2 (10Katie Chan) 5RESO/WOR>3REOP This is happening on the native Android app. Tested on Samsung Galaxy S3 and BlueStacks emulator.
[17:05:47] <kristenlans>	 New record for fastest mobile web standup?
[17:07:18] <brion>	 wanna see my fast stanup?
[17:07:20] <brion>	 wanna see it again?
[17:07:48] * kristenlans mind blown
[17:14:55] <bearND>	 dbrant: I'll need to do most of the stuff in http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/location/strategies.html for the first nearby card since it influences the structure of the activity
[17:15:24] <dbrant>	 bearND: sure, that's fine then
[17:15:46] <bearND>	 dbrant: we're standing
[17:30:40] <brion>	 coffeeeeeee
[17:31:57] <YuviPanda>	 kristenlans: fastest standup is no standup, so I suppose last monday :)
[17:32:05] <YuviPanda>	 or the time 2y ago when we had standup on IRC
[17:42:42] <wikibugs>	 3Wikipedia App / 3iOS App: iOS app: Little icons in articles should not be fuzzy (iOS 6 and 7) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70364#c3 (10Dan Garry) The same thing that broke recent pages icons on iOS 8 actually fixed this bug. ^_^  I'm repurposing this bug to be a wider audit of icons that display in ar...
[17:51:42] <wikibugs>	 3Wikipedia App / 3iOS App: iOS app: Little icons in articles should not be fuzzy (iOS 6 and 7) - 10https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/70364#c4 (10Brion Vibber) Ok we might be able to fix this on 6/7 with JS then. :D
[17:58:27] <YuviPanda>	 Deskana: btw, going to Manchester tomorrow :)
[17:58:37] <Deskana>	 YuviPanda: Yes!
[17:58:47] <Deskana>	 YuviPanda: You should try East Z East on Princess Street.
[17:58:53] <YuviPanda>	 I shall make a note
[17:59:06] <YuviPanda>	 no idea how long I'm there for or what I'll be doing tho, but Alice seems to have it planned
[17:59:09] <Deskana>	 YuviPanda: It's won a lot of awards for its Indian food and I'm curious to see what you think about it.
[17:59:14] <YuviPanda>	 ah
[17:59:19] <YuviPanda>	 yeah, will try!
[17:59:32] <YuviPanda>	 I think I might be in Yorkshire after that
[17:59:44] <Deskana>	 I also recommend The Grill at New York Street if you're looking for steak. :)
[18:00:43] <YuviPanda>	 ah
[18:00:53] <YuviPanda>	 I would, but travelling with a full on vegetarian has problems...
[18:01:09] <YuviPanda>	 among them not having really sampled any of the meat cuisines of this country sans the kebab shops
[18:01:46] <kristenlans>	 dbrant come to the story party!
[18:02:33] <kristenlans>	 Yuvipanda are you coming?
[18:02:49] <YuviPanda>	 kristenlans: I'm there, I don't see you guys?
[18:02:59] <YuviPanda>	 kristenlans: let me refresh
[18:03:01] <kristenlans>	 https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/calendar/dGZpbmNAd2lraW1lZGlhLm9yZw.rngl8lb2dl3voo04j1h6ig8hic?authuser=0
[18:03:10] <YuviPanda>	 kristenlans: that's better
[18:07:22] <tfinc>	 when did apple change iTunes connect? much fancier ui now
[18:07:39] <brion>	 quite recent apparently, i see people complaining about it in the apple dev forums :D
[18:11:32] <YuviPanda>	 brion: http://xkcd.com/1172/
[18:11:42] <brion>	 yep :D
[18:52:02] <YuviPanda>	 kristenlans: Deskana re: 'more velocity on Android than iOS' - you shouldn't consider that to be too true anymore, since my velocity has dropped drastically in the transition phase (Am doing labs things / Android things now, in that order). Should consider me at best a .3 person :)
[18:55:17] <Deskana>	 YuviPanda: Fair point, but we're about to hire an iOS developer so although it'll flip, it'll still be essentially the same problem (i.e. different velocities)
[19:05:52] <tfinc>	 kaldari: when are we following up about templates with brion ?
[19:16:43] <YuviPanda>	 Deskana|Away: heh, true
[19:31:46] <Cookies52>	 hey all, any devs about?
[19:31:58] <Cookies52>	 got someone enquiring about crashes on OTRS
[19:34:46] <dbrant>	 Cook879: is this regarding Android or iOS?
[19:34:56] <Cookies52>	 dbrant, talking to me?
[19:35:08] <dbrant>	 Cookies52: lol  sorry, yes, you
[19:35:49] <Cookies52>	 dbrant, iOS, latest version of iOS
[19:35:57] <Cookies52>	 tried rebooting and reinstalling
[19:36:07] <Cookies52>	 crashes on launch
[19:36:45] <dbrant>	 Cookies52: ah, the point-man for iOS would be mhurd.  (i'm Android)
[19:37:00] <mhurd>	 Cookies52: we’re submitting an update today which we hope to make live next week which, we hope, will address crashing issues
[19:37:16] <Cookies52>	 mhurd, ok, I'll let them know :)
[19:37:16] <mhurd>	 we’re very hopeful ;)
[19:37:19] <Cookies52>	 thanks a lot
[19:38:45] <mhurd>	 Cookies52: thank for responding to them! we’ve been scrambling to fix all the initial release issues
[19:39:18] <Cookies52>	 mhurd, yeah, just the one today I think...
[19:39:25] <mhurd>	 cool!
[19:40:05] <Cookies52>	 oh, looking for beta or alpha testers for the apps at all?
[19:40:17] <Cookies52>	 I can help with android or iOS if you want :)
[19:40:25] <mhurd>	 Cookies52: yes!!! i’ll get you link...
[19:40:45] <mhurd>	 Cookies52: for ios testfight signup: http://tflig.ht/1dhqz8j
[19:41:04] <mhurd>	 it’s a one time sign-up, then as we push betas you’ll get notified
[19:41:31] <mhurd>	 Cookies52: feel free to share the link too!
[19:42:48] <Cookies52>	 mhurd, ok, done
[19:42:57] <mhurd>	 Cookies52: woohoo!
[19:42:59] <Cookies52>	 dbrant, any need for beta testers for android?
[19:43:29] <mhurd>	 for android there’s a separate beta app in the play store. right dbrant?
[19:43:36] <mhurd>	 bearND: ^
[19:43:44] <dbrant>	 Cookies52: of course! In the Play Store, there's the Wikipedia Beta app, which you're welcome to use and give feedback on.
[19:43:52] <bearND>	 mhurd: that's correct
[19:44:10] <Cookies52>	 dbrant, ah right....
[19:44:12] * Cookies52 looks
[19:44:24] <bearND>	 Cookies52: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wikipedia.beta
[19:44:48] <Cookies52>	 bearND, installed
[19:44:54] <Cookies52>	 anyway, gtg. night all :)
[19:45:02] <mhurd>	 Cookies52: gnight! thanks again!
[20:24:46] <tfinc>	 kaldari: http://www.feopsconf.com/
[20:25:27] <YuviPanda>	 brion: we should fix that in the iOS app asap, hopefully it can move in before this
[20:25:30] <YuviPanda>	 day's release
[20:25:35] <brion>	 ya
[20:25:38] <YuviPanda>	 brion: just remove the debug=true
[20:25:40] <YuviPanda>	 should be fine
[20:25:46] <brion>	 YuviPanda: do we know why this is flooding today when it wasn’t before?
[20:25:58] <YuviPanda>	 brion: unsure. It wasn't flooding in Android because we turned it off
[20:26:02] <brion>	 we haven’t seen a concomittant spike in downloads
[20:27:58] <legoktm>	 why was it using debug=true in the first place?
[20:29:06] <YuviPanda>	 legoktm: the script that I have locally (for testing, I run it manually once in a while) has debug=true
[20:29:15] <YuviPanda>	 iOS might've copied from that one
[20:29:22] <YuviPanda>	 I might've even linked them that 
[20:29:23] <YuviPanda>	 so
[20:30:23] <brion>	 ah i bet that was it
[20:30:39] <legoktm>	 ah
[20:30:42] <mhurd>	 YuviPanda: that was the url you said to use
[20:30:51] <brion>	 ok lemme confirm the fetches are cachable
[20:31:06] <YuviPanda>	 mhurd: yeah, I forgot to point out that we should change debug=false in the app, and true in the script
[20:31:16] <mhurd>	 YuviPanda: gotcha
[20:31:20] <brion>	 Cache-Control "public, max-age=300, s-maxage=300"
[20:31:29] <brion>	 whee
[20:31:39] <mhurd>	 fix all the things!!
[20:32:27] <legoktm>	 ok, so we've agreed this is YuviPanda's fault? :)
[20:33:00] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Brion VIBBER: Disable debug flag on CSS fetches: fixes server-side caching [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158675 
[20:33:10] <brion>	 that’s the important thing, assigning blame :D
[20:34:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Mhurd: [C: 032 V: 032] "yay!" [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158675 (owner: 10Brion VIBBER)
[20:34:22] <mhurd>	 brion: hangout around 2pm?
[20:34:26] <brion>	 mhurd: sure
[20:34:42] <mhurd>	 brion: i’ll try to review other patches by then
[20:34:47] <brion>	 spiff
[20:34:50] <mhurd>	 brion: tying up couple loose ends
[20:34:59] <brion>	 mhurd: make sure the zoom bits get in so i can review thoose :D
[20:35:12] <mhurd>	 brion: yes! almost got it...
[20:35:14] <mhurd>	 :)
[20:35:18] <brion>	 woo
[20:35:30] <brion>	 ok i’m gonna look at that interview task before i  forget again
[20:38:20] <YuviPanda>	 mhurd: did the app download the css once per day or once per month?
[20:38:30] <mhurd>	 YuviPanda: day
[20:38:53] <YuviPanda>	 mhurd: can you dbl check? brion suspects it might be a month, and today is 1m after the release...
[20:38:56] <YuviPanda>	 (I think?)
[20:39:11] <mhurd>	 YuviPanda: checking
[20:39:30] <brion>	 it lookos like a day to me though
[20:39:52] <mhurd>	 YuviPanda: brion ya looks like day
[20:39:57] <YuviPanda>	 cool
[20:40:29] <brion>	 weird, then i don’t know why it blew up after a month :D
[20:41:58] <mhurd>	 brion: could uiwebview be caching css?
[20:43:07] <brion>	 mhurd: well it’ll be a local fie that the web view loads…
[20:43:09] * brion hmms
[20:43:23] <mhurd>	 brion: but that wouldn’t probably cause spike… oh yeah, exactly what i was typing :)
[20:44:07] <brion>	 mhurd: so joe thinks there was a temporary sowdown that made this much recently, combined with our making too many requests spiked it. i think? :D
[21:13:13] <MaxSem>	 YuviPanda, 144px thumbs, really?
[21:13:14] <Maryana>	 kaldari: is wikigrok testable yet? :)
[21:13:25] <YuviPanda>	 what, what, where?!
[21:13:37] * YuviPanda checks pixel size in Android app
[21:13:37] <MaxSem>	 in apps!
[21:14:04] <YuviPanda>	 MaxSem: I'm getting 48 from android, not 144
[21:14:14] <kaldari>	 Maryana: No, https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/158548/ is still unmerged. ping: MaxSem, jgonera. It's a very small patch.
[21:14:23] <YuviPanda>	 MaxSem: you should check with mhurd 
[21:14:26] <YuviPanda>	 or brion 
[21:14:30] <Maryana>	 MaxSem: ping :)
[21:14:44] <Maryana>	 looks like juliusz might've gone home
[21:14:52] <MaxSem>	 YuviPanda, so the app is requesting a bunch of thumbs in sizes not used anywhere else
[21:14:59] <MaxSem>	 NIIIICE!
[21:15:12] <YuviPanda>	 matches Android guidelines, although I dunno why it's 48 and not 44.
[21:15:17] <Maryana>	 kaldari: you might ask one of the apps guys, actually, if it's just a JS thing...
[21:15:19] <YuviPanda>	 dbrant: bearND ^
[21:15:42] <mhurd>	 YuviPanda: on ios it’s 48 and 96. i was about to push nearby with 144 but ran it by max. 144 ins’t live yet
[21:15:46] <kaldari>	 Maryana: who are the JS wizards on the app team? YuviPanda?
[21:16:26] <YuviPanda>	 kaldari: not me, I only write puppet these days :)
[21:16:33] <YuviPanda>	 mhurd: ah, ok. 
[21:16:41] <Maryana>	 kaldari: i think all of them except yuvi? dbrant bearND - can one of you review a small JS patch for mobile web? :)
[21:17:05] <Maryana>	 we're low on devs these days
[21:17:07] <bearND>	 Maryana: sure I can review some JS
[21:17:15] <kaldari>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/158548/ 
[21:17:20] <Maryana>	 fantastic! https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/158548/
[21:17:24] <kaldari>	 bearND: ^
[21:17:32] <bearND>	 kaldari: Maryana: ok, looking
[21:17:40] <Maryana>	 thank you! 
[21:21:01] <mhurd>	 MaxSem: YuviPanda: so i think i was wrong twice. it looks like the ios app is using 48 with a mulitplier of 3 for all thumbnails
[21:21:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10MaxSem: [C: 032] Add a testing mode to WikiGrok [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158548 (owner: 10Kaldari)
[21:22:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add a testing mode to WikiGrok [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158548 (owner: 10Kaldari)
[21:22:39] <YuviPanda>	 mhurd: ah, heh.
[21:22:59] <mhurd>	 YuviPanda: MaxSem recommendations?
[21:23:20] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Mhurd: Set storyboard to xcode 5.1 compat [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158433 (owner: 10Brion VIBBER)
[21:23:46] <bearND>	 kaldari: MaxSem already merged it, but I've learned a bit about wikigrok. ;)
[21:23:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Mhurd: [C: 032 V: 032] "Looks good." [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158433 (owner: 10Brion VIBBER)
[21:24:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Mhurd: Workaround for iOS 8 beta view dismiss buggage with multiple modals [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158527 (owner: 10Brion VIBBER)
[21:24:07] <kaldari>	 bearND: awesome ;)
[21:24:17] <brion>	 mhurd: ok sent notes to you & emily
[21:24:29] <MaxSem>	 for how long was this the case? in general, it's better if the apps used thumb sizes alreday in use to prevent increasing Swift and Varnish storage usage
[21:24:40] <brion>	 the sizing bug i saw on xcode 6 went away on xcode 5 so no functionality worries :D
[21:24:53] <mhurd>	 MaxSem: since the release of ios app just before wikimania
[21:25:01] <brion>	 ok i gotta plug in, brb
[21:25:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Kaldari: Fixing Javascript error when adding talk page reply in alpha on mobile [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158782 
[21:26:03] <kaldari>	 MaxSem: ^
[21:26:18] <mhurd>	 MaxSem: submitting update pretty soon today… can change it if need be, but we’re showing largere thumbs in places which look much better if not scaled up so much
[21:26:56] <mhurd>	 brion: hey quick question - does “[UIDevice currentDevice] systemVersion] floatValue] >= 8.0” work if, say, 8.0.1 comes out?
[21:27:21] <brion>	 mhurd: i’m not sure it’ll give us a value that makes sense but it’ll be greater than or equal to 8.0 :D
[21:27:24] <bearND>	 MaxSem: which sizes are already in use? I'm working on the nearby feature for Android right now and was going to use the same size as the iOS app
[21:27:32] <brion>	 we may want to use a more robust check
[21:27:46] <brion>	 but i think “8.0.1” will end up as 8.0f
[21:27:52] <brion>	 lemme test real quick
[21:27:56] <MaxSem>	 50, 80 and 150
[21:28:29] <bearND>	 MaxSem: thanks. 
[21:28:30] <mhurd>	 MaxSem: cool if 150’s ok i’ll patch itnow
[21:29:00] <MaxSem>	 however, if 48, 96 and 144 were in use for a significant amount of time, it's less pressing
[21:30:30] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Mhurd: [C: 032 V: 032] "It works!" [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158527 (owner: 10Brion VIBBER)
[21:30:32] <brion>	 mhurd: yeah [@“8.0.1” floatValue] is 8.0 so it’ll still match this check.
[21:30:44] <mhurd>	 brion: perfect! :)
[21:32:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Mhurd: Avoid compiler warning on 64-bit [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/157191 (owner: 10Brion VIBBER)
[21:32:33] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Mhurd: [C: 032 V: 032] "Yes!" [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/157191 (owner: 10Brion VIBBER)
[21:34:19] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Mhurd: Quick hack to work around image cache bugs on iOS 8 Retina displays [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158432 (owner: 10Brion VIBBER)
[21:34:25] <brion>	 wooooo
[21:34:34] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Mhurd: [C: 032 V: 032] "Yes!" [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158432 (owner: 10Brion VIBBER)
[21:35:54] <mhurd>	 bearND: would you mind checking if there are any more translations?
[21:36:05] <bearND>	 mhurd: checking...
[21:36:08] <mhurd>	 :)
[21:39:23] <brion>	 mhurd: try again i think the hangout timed out
[21:39:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Florianschmidtwelzow: [C: 031] Fixing Javascript error when adding talk page reply in alpha on mobile [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158782 (owner: 10Kaldari)
[21:39:57] <mhurd>	 brion: k
[21:40:54] <bearND>	 mhurd: brion: I assume that you didn't change the Japanese translation of meters. So, I'm going to ignore that one: https://translatewiki.net/wiki/Special:ManageMessageGroups
[21:41:22] <brion>	 bearND: sounds right :D
[21:41:28] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Mhurd: iOS 8 table of contents fixes. [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158793 
[21:42:06] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10BearND: Manual import of translations from TWN [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158794 
[21:42:17] <bearND>	 mhurd: ok, done with sync for iOS
[21:42:31] <bearND>	 going to Android now since I'm at it
[21:42:58] <jgonera>	 kaldari, anything in particular you want me to document in micro.tap/micro.autosize?
[21:43:35] <kaldari>	 jgonera: just what their general purpose is. I have a rough idea myself, but I thought you would be able to explain it better.
[21:43:50] <kaldari>	 since you wrote them :)
[21:44:15] <jgonera>	 kaldari, is what you can see at https://github.com/jgonera/micro.js enough or should I expand?
[21:44:56] <kaldari>	 jgonera: That probably sufficient for microtab, but not for micro.autosize
[21:45:03] <kaldari>	 er micro.tap I mean
[21:45:09] <jgonera>	 kaldari, ok, I'll add some more info
[21:47:33] <kaldari>	 thanks!
[21:49:37] <mhurd>	 bearND: woohoo thanks!
[21:51:51] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10BearND: Manual import of translations from TWN [apps/android/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158798 
[21:51:53] <Maryana>	 MaxSem: i followed your advice and created an article on beta labs that is now the top hit for the "sta" string on desktop & mobile: http://en.m.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Stairs
[21:51:56] <Maryana>	 :)
[21:52:09] <Maryana>	 i think it's a very informative article
[21:53:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Brion VIBBER: [C: 04-1] "Looks good except for RTL, where it's disappearing under the ToC on the upper left. Should be an easy fix, let's test :D" [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158793 (owner: 10Mhurd)
[22:01:25] <kristenlans>	 I’m not sure that is NPOV maryana  :| 
[22:01:56] <Maryana>	 :)
[22:03:50] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS2) 10Mhurd: iOS 8 table of contents fixes. [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158793 
[22:04:09] <kristenlans>	 It struck me that we might want to announce kaldari’s new tech leaderdom outside of mobile land.
[22:04:33] <kristenlans>	 I drafted an announcement, the heart of which is:
[22:04:44] <kristenlans>	 The primary impact of this change outside of the mobile web team is that Kaldari will be the mobile representative at the weekly Scrum of Scrums meeting, which is used to coordinate cross-team communication and dependencies, and otherwise be a point of contact for mobile web/MobileFrontend technical issues if you don't know who else to contact.
[22:05:02] <kristenlans>	 Does that seem good, true, and just to you kaldari?
[22:05:23] <kaldari>	 sounds good to me. Thanks for putting that together kristen!!
[22:05:56] <kristenlans>	 No problem, thank you!
[22:06:33] <kristenlans>	 errrr, shoudl I send to wmf-all? 
[22:06:36] * kristenlans is scared
[22:07:30] <MaxSem>	 Maryana, so... signed off?
[22:08:01] <Maryana>	 yes :)
[22:13:26] <brion>	 mhurd: in resizeWebViewFrame:
[22:13:28] <brion>	     //CGRect newFrame = CGRectMake(0.0, 0.0, self.view.frame.size.width * scale, self.view.frame.size.height);
[22:13:28] <brion>	     CGRect newFrame = CGRectMake(self.view.frame.size.width - self.view.frame.size.width * scale, 0.0, self.view.frame.size.width * scale, self.view.frame.size.height);
[22:13:42] <brion>	 hack to override for rtl positioning :P
[22:15:18] <kaldari>	 greg-g: you around?
[22:15:44] <Deskana>	 brion, mhurd: I'll be in the war room at 4pm. Maybe a little bit earlier if my meeting before it finishes early.
[22:15:49] <brion>	 ok
[22:16:33] <kaldari>	 Reedy: you around?
[22:16:51] <Maryana>	 uh oh
[22:16:51] <Reedy>	 Ya
[22:16:57] <Maryana>	 i don't like the sound of this..
[22:17:01] <Maryana>	 :-P
[22:17:07] <Reedy>	 Me being around?
[22:17:08] <greg-g>	 kaldari: ish, what's up
[22:17:18] <Maryana>	 those two pings consecutively!
[22:17:19] <Maryana>	 :)
[22:17:25] <Maryana>	 no good can come of this
[22:17:36] <greg-g>	 :)
[22:17:52] <greg-g>	 Maryana: should I go find you and backchannel in-person? ;)
[22:18:27] <Deskana>	 Maryana: I like your stairs article. Not enough stainless steel frying pan though.
[22:18:30] <Deskana>	 Maryana: See https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird
[22:18:36] <kaldari>	 Reedy: nevermind, found greg
[22:18:57] <Maryana>	 Deskana: hehe
[22:20:00] <Deskana>	 Maryana: It's okay, I added one for you.
[22:22:18] <mhurd>	 lol
[22:23:26] <brion>	 https://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bird&diff=215927&oldid=215926
[22:25:25] <Deskana>	 brion: lol
[22:25:28] <Deskana>	 brion: Nice way of connecting that up.
[22:27:28] <Maryana>	 http://en.m.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/126500
[22:27:56] <brion>	 zomg
[22:28:01] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS3) 10Mhurd: iOS 8 table of contents fixes. [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158793 
[22:31:25] <DarTar>	 Maryana: running a few mins late
[22:31:47] <Maryana>	 np. just come find me in r31 whenever you're ready :)
[22:38:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Brion VIBBER: "This rev mostly fixes RTL; there's some additional issues with pull-to-refresh which Monte is fixing up now..." [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158793 (owner: 10Mhurd)
[22:44:52] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS4) 10Mhurd: iOS 8 table of contents fixes. [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158793 
[22:49:09] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10MaxSem: [C: 032] Fixing Javascript error when adding talk page reply in alpha on mobile [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158782 (owner: 10Kaldari)
[22:49:44] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fixing Javascript error when adding talk page reply in alpha on mobile [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158782 (owner: 10Kaldari)
[22:52:37] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Brion VIBBER: [C: 032 V: 032] "Looks good :D" [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158793 (owner: 10Mhurd)
[22:53:59] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Brion VIBBER: [C: 032 V: 032] Manual import of translations from TWN [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158794 (owner: 10BearND)
[22:56:26] <brion>	 Deskana: we’ll reconvene around 4:30ish to prep releases sound good? we got the main things fixed \o/
[23:00:20] <kristenlans>	 I am signing off guys. Thanks Bronte™ for all the iOS 8 work!
[23:00:45] <Maryana>	 DarTar: http://pastebin.com/SufQgbQ6
[23:01:06] <brion>	 :D
[23:02:49] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10MaxSem: [C: 04-1] "Posting talk page messages results in "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot use 'in' operator to search for 'progress' in undefined" in oojs.jquery." [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/129336 (owner: 10Jdlrobson)
[23:07:08] <bearND>	 brion: mhurd: can one of you check the Italian translation? A few items have &nbsp; in there: "nearby-distance-label-meters" = "$1&nbsp;m";
[23:07:17] <brion>	 dooooh
[23:08:09] <bearND>	 brion:  for both meters and km
[23:09:52] <MaxSem>	 mhurd, https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/158011/
[23:11:23] <brion>	 hmmm
[23:12:36] <brion>	 bearND: yeah i can confirm those are broken
[23:12:39] <brion>	 lemme fix em on twn
[23:13:23] <bearND>	 brion: ok, ty. Let me know when you are done, and I'll sync again
[23:15:18] <brion>	 bearND: ok done
[23:15:27] <brion>	 those look like the only ones with a &nbsp; in em
[23:15:28] <bearND>	 brion: great
[23:15:29] <brion>	 yay grep :D
[23:17:42] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10BearND: Manual import of translations from TWN [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158814 
[23:17:53] <bearND>	 brion: ^
[23:19:42] <brion>	 tx
[23:20:10] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Brion VIBBER: [C: 032 V: 032] "fixes stray &nbsp; from italian translations of nearby" [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158814 (owner: 10BearND)
[23:20:15] <bearND>	 brion: you are now a proud translator for Italian. Parla Italiano? ;)
[23:20:39] <brion>	 no lo parlo! :D
[23:20:54] <bearND>	 :)
[23:21:00] <brion>	 but it’s basically spanish and latin spelled sideways ;)
[23:32:07] <Deskana>	 brion: We're in the war room when you're ready! :)
[23:32:18] <brion>	 wooo
[23:33:30] <kaldari>	 Maryana: http://en.m.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Anne_Dallas_Dudley?wikidataid=Q3784220
[23:44:07] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Kaldari: WIP: Improvements to Wikigrok A interface [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158821 
[23:44:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WIP: Improvements to Wikigrok A interface [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158821 (owner: 10Kaldari)
[23:50:31] <grrrit-wm>	 (03CR) 10Kaldari: [C: 032] Fix "Last just now by an anonymous user" appearing on actions other than view [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158501 (owner: 10MaxSem)
[23:51:03] <grrrit-wm>	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix "Last just now by an anonymous user" appearing on actions other than view [extensions/MobileFrontend] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158501 (owner: 10MaxSem)
[23:53:23] <grrrit-wm>	 (03PS1) 10Brion VIBBER: Possible fix for scroll top/bottom oddity [apps/ios/wikipedia] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/158824