[00:04:31] joakino: just got back. Glad everything is good [00:05:12] Just deployed Gather, Flow, VE, a schema change, and a config change.. What an awesome SWAT. [00:35:21] what a day, my patches are getting merged left and right ;) kaldari [09:07:16] hi there [09:16:37] hey joakino [09:16:49] * phuedx is downloading 1.2 gb of ios simulator [09:16:52] (8.2) [09:23:57] phuedx: gotta do some ios testig? [09:24:01] testing [09:34:11] joakino: yeah, there've been a few bug reports come through that need verifying [09:36:12] the needs triage column is packed out today :/ [09:36:16] need to clear it down [09:36:25] phuedx: fyi you can use safari's web inspector to connect to a running ios simulator, fairly useful [09:36:37] joakino: ta, i already knew that one :) [09:36:49] great :D [09:36:58] neat feature though [09:37:01] nice and seamless [09:40:12] yerp [10:52:27] phuedx: if you go to http://en.m.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Special:Nearby do you see a JS exception because 'settings' module couldn't be found? [10:58:49] joakino: no (i'm an anon on beta) [11:00:10] phuedx: that's so weird [11:00:15] i can reproduce from multple devices [11:00:28] Mobile-Web: Error when visiting Nearby on Wikpedia (all of them) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98594#1272057 (Jhernandez) NEW [11:00:32] phuedx: ^ [12:14:01] gonna go for some lunch [12:14:13] joakino: :/ triage that in a bit :/ :/ [12:16:18] sure, enjoy phuedx :) [12:45:32] joakino: do you happen to know (or know where I can find out) if there is a "preRender" function for MFE modules, specifically a Panel? [12:56:36] jhobs: Panel inherits from View at some point so yes [12:57:37] have a look at MobileFrontend/resources/mobile.view/View.js [12:57:58] has docs about methods all the views have, and it is good to understand how it works [12:58:03] jhobs: ^ [12:58:14] thanks [12:58:25] jhobs: we can go through code next week if you want [12:58:45] out for lunch! [12:59:53] joakino: i've been through some of it before, kind of just refamiliarizing myself with it now. Let's not put anything in the books just yet but I'll keep your offer in mind if I get too lost ;) [13:15:09] back from lunch [13:23:10] hello [13:23:14] is this the place where i can ask why mobile pages in mediawiki (english wikipedia, specifically) prohibit embedding the website in frames? [13:29:23] d33tah, the question is, why should it? [13:29:33] *shouldn't [14:30:42] MaxSem: i'm writing a project that lets you see a given wikipedia change in the context of rDNS that showed it [14:30:49] hold on, i'll show you [14:31:25] MaxSem: http://wikispy.wmflabs.org/by_rdns_random/plwiki/.gov.pl [14:31:44] that showed it => that caused it* [14:31:54] keep refreshing to see next changes [14:32:25] i can't do that with the mobile version, but i'd really like since it shows the diffs in more readable way [14:37:10] d33tah, I think what you're really asking for is the ability to generate inline diffs via the API? [14:38:01] hmmm... that's interesting, i never thought that there could be a better way than scraping. is there? [14:38:19] MaxSem: /\ [14:38:55] also, on labs, you should already have the relevant software to render the diff yourself [14:39:33] wikidiff2_inline_diff() [14:39:53] ah, python:P [14:40:07] i never really looked at this :/ [14:41:42] yeah, [14:42:11] sorry, i'm on an unstable connection [14:42:35] MaxSem: yeah, it's python; so, is there any API i could use for that? [14:42:48] ot yet [14:42:56] *not [14:42:58] is there any schedule on that? [14:44:47] not that i know of [14:46:17] i see. so, back to the original question - why does wikipedia mobile disallow framing? [14:50:05] umm, for security? [14:50:28] why doesn't it disallow the framing of non-mobile version then? [14:53:45] also, what kind of security offence could be done via framing of mobilediff page? [14:54:18] (excuse me if i happen to stop responding, my shell connection atm is pretty unstable) [15:00:51] I have no idea:D [16:04:31] joakino: ping [16:04:40] joakino: hangouts! [16:51:02] dbrant bearND mdholloway|lunch hey devs! it's my understanding that the only device breakdown available in the amazon dev console is in crash reporting (not using amazon analytics). do any of you know differently? [16:53:53] niedzielski: I do not know differently. [16:54:22] dbrant: ok thanks! [16:54:31] niedzielski: speaking of which, it looks like we haven't updated our amazon listing with the latest apk... [16:54:56] bearND: ^ [16:58:24] dbrant: yes, we haven't. I'm not sure who is supposed to do that? Us or the partner team. [17:00:20] bearND: iirc the last apk was uploaded by me. lol so, I'll just do it again. [17:00:36] bearND: and I'll add a note about this to our Release wiki page. [17:01:25] bearND: dbrant i haven't done an upload at wmf but happy to take a go at it or act as a presubmission reviewer [17:03:54] niedzielski: you mean for amazon, or google play? [17:04:50] dbrant: i was thinking amazon at the moment but either [17:05:54] dbrant i've done submissions on both consoles prior to wmf but only for single locale apps [17:07:04] niedzielski: sure, if you like; there's not much to it. I'll email you a link to the APK to use. [17:07:27] dbrant: sounds good [17:08:57] dbrant: niedzielski: I built the latest release apks. They are on my GDrive [17:09:41] bearND: yep, i was going to send a link to that. [17:11:18] dbrant: cool. i've sent that [17:11:37] awesome [17:11:43] git stat [17:11:51] sorry, wrong window [17:13:03] del c:\windows\system32\*.* [17:16:15] kaldari: ping me when yer ready [17:16:21] phuedx: ready [17:16:32] did you sprint to yer laptop or something? [17:17:01] phuedx: so, my understanding of how it works is that it's supposed to be 'tag name' => array of articles. 'default' was just a sample tag name. [17:17:27] doesn't the default mean "this setting is true for all wikis" in the config files? [17:18:00] i read the config files as "variable name" => ( "wiki_dbname" => "value" ) [17:18:07] phuedx: oh yeah, it is a wmg var isn't it? [17:18:25] phuedx: I think you might be right [17:19:03] dbrant: http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/150/021/0b2.jpg [17:19:29] joakino: ^ wtf [17:19:47] phuedx: what wikis is gather on? just test and enwiki, right? [17:20:09] kaldari: yeah -- this config change is only for beta right now [17:20:28] phuedx: OK, it guess it's good then :) [17:20:31] just so it can be signed off and tested proper -- then we'll enable it in prod [17:20:40] tip of the hat, flick of the switch [17:20:44] woo! [17:20:50] and with that, i'm going to get george to bed [17:20:53] back in a bit [17:26:57] vibha: kaity: got some more comments for you at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97819 [18:03:29] tgr: does lstfilter support perm? [18:03:46] do we have lstfilter even? [18:06:22] mhurd http://www.hat.jit.su/22257 [18:06:23] kristenlans: i can has? [18:06:27] not sure but pretty sure i rode the elevator with lila this morning. i didn't talk to her as i felt it was more courageous to say nothing. my braverism knows no bounds [18:06:28] kristenlans: ah thx [18:06:46] niedzielski: lololol [18:17:35] ok dudes [18:17:39] i'm actually going to head off [18:17:51] i'm exhausted [18:17:57] and still shivering :/ [18:18:18] have a lovely weekend [18:35:03] 19:36 jdlrobson: kaldari: did you see someone beat you to first spider article? [18:35:05] kaldari: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Gather/id/1471/Spiders [18:35:14] they should add spider penises [18:35:22] jdlrobson: I saw :) [18:35:32] jdlrobson: interestingly they only had 1 wikipedia edit [18:35:59] was it a spider article? [18:37:12] jdlrobson: no, it was some article about professional boxing [18:37:23] hhmm [18:37:50] kaldari: i was hoping it was the love of your life [18:38:17] jdlrobson: if only I were so lucky :) [18:46:15] vibha: want me to schedule a half hour to chat w you and katie next wk about lang picker? [18:51:00] mhurd: Yes. Kaity is also planning to touch base with you. I'm out for the rest of the day, so you both can hash it out. [18:51:17] vibha: great thx! [18:53:08] vibha: have a good weekend! [19:00:24] kaity: vibha: got some more questions for the lang picker for Android: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97819 [19:01:08] bearND: Yep I've been looking them over this morning. I'm going to give initial answers then ask Pau, the original designer of the project to respond too [19:01:25] kaity: great. Thanks! [19:01:34] bearND: sorry forgot to include this in the android phab [19:01:43] bearND: here's the link to the initial project https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector/Design/Interlanguage_links [19:02:08] this is the compact language links built by the language engineering team [19:02:35] bearND: its a beta feature on desktop, do you have it enabled? [19:02:56] bearND: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures [19:05:17] kaity: thank you. I just enabled it. Good to know that this has an implementation on desktop already. Maybe we can leverage some of that. [19:05:52] kaity: Do you know who implemented it for desktop? [19:06:07] I believe it was santosh [19:06:24] @santhosh [19:06:34] (on phabricator) [19:06:56] great [19:07:34] kaity: That's mainly for bucketing up the language lists. [19:07:52] bearND: yes [19:35:45] kaity: hey, haven't heard from you in a couple of days on the latest APK. Everything looking ok? [19:47:06] any API people around to help w/ a pageprops query? [19:47:12] bd808? ^ [19:47:20] (as part of a mobileview action) [19:48:19] bgerstle: I'm API only by association unfortunately. Brad (anomie) is the wizard [19:48:27] ah [19:48:43] He is in -dev [19:48:46] ok [19:48:53] and -tech too looks like [19:49:23] he may be out for the day by now, not sure [20:15:36] mdholloway: i found a couple issues actually [20:15:50] mdholloway: i'll send screenshots [20:15:56] sorry been so busy! [20:18:34] no worries [20:19:57] kaity: what article is that? there've been some changes since last apk so i want to see what it looks like now [20:20:47] mdholloway: 1 is Hummingbird, 2 and 3 are Arches National Park [20:21:00] kaity: th [20:21:01] thx [20:26:27] mdholloway: still confused about how it works [20:26:43] kaity: how so? [20:26:45] mdholloway: If there are bigger images available, can we pull those for the thumbnail? [20:26:54] or is that too many requests? [20:28:12] kaity: there aren't always bigger images available. [20:28:34] kaity: in many cases there are higher-resolution images which we can grab and use, but not always. [20:28:50] in the arches national park - features section [20:29:02] kaity: right. let me have a look at that one. [20:29:05] for example the small image is bigger when you open in mediaviewer [20:30:08] right, that's going to the original image, which in most cases isn't going to be feasible to load while loading a page [20:30:20] ok I see [20:30:31] why in most cases? [20:30:40] sorry just trying to understand more [20:30:43] kaity: sorry, i have a meeting in a minute [20:30:51] short answer is that they can be very large [20:30:56] mdholloway: ok we'll catch up later [21:39:11] jhobs: would you please try signing in at https://marketplace.firefox.com/developers and let me know if you can get in? it will probably prompt you to accept something or other. after you've done that, i think i can add you. it just complained at me when i tried to add you [21:39:18] (about the need to accept terms) [21:40:17] dr0ptp4kt: hmm... could this account be different from the bugzilla.mozilla one? It says unknown account when I try to log in [21:41:13] jhobs: actually, try clicking the 'register' link and then choose the 'i already have an account' option on the ensuing popup [21:42:12] dr0ptp4kt: same result (same screen) [21:42:27] I'll just create a new one [21:42:27] hmmm [21:42:38] jhobs: alright, lemme know. [21:42:40] must be separate from the bugzilla one for some reason [21:43:20] dr0ptp4kt: ok account's verified [22:00:59] @bearND you have time to tell me how to check if new search logging is working? [22:02:59] coreyfloyd: what do you mean with "new search logging"? [22:03:41] bearND: I’m implementing the search funnel [22:03:54] bearND: sending events to the logging server [22:04:26] coreyfloyd: oh, you mean: how to test event logging? [22:04:45] bearND: yesh [22:04:59] bearND: i sent some events… need to see if they made the trip [22:05:32] jhobs: want to try signing into the developer portal again? [22:06:00] coreyfloyd: Yes, follow the steps at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/EventLogging/Testing/BetaLabs#How_to_verify_events [22:06:16] coreyfloyd: you'll also need to temporarily update the Event logging URI [22:06:16] bearND: cool thanks [22:06:33] dr0ptp4kt: i'm signed in right now [22:06:50] dr0ptp4kt: I don't see any terms to accept though. Do I need to follow a link or something? [22:06:52] bearND: ? Is that in the instructions or something else? [22:07:01] coreyfloyd: Do you still have the email I sent a while ago about it? It has details on how to do that for Android. [22:07:15] let me look… subject line? [22:07:15] try signing out and signing in again. it's still complaining you're not in the system [22:07:20] dr0ptp4kt: wait try again [22:07:27] or just search for logging maybe? [22:07:38] dr0ptp4kt: they had a ToS link hidden behind a gear icon and I just clicked accept [22:07:50] coreyfloyd: you can do a similar thing for iOS. I think bgerstle_afk had some ideas on how to do it based on configuration and not have to temporarily modify code [22:08:12] coreyfloyd: or you can add it to your shake gesture menu [22:08:52] bearND: thanks ok - let me grok this stuff and see how far i get. [22:09:05] coreyfloyd: the email subject was "event logging changes " [22:09:20] bearND: got it thanks [22:09:25] jhobs: there we go, now log out and log in again, and then go to 'my submissions'. see wikipedia? [22:09:46] dr0ptp4kt: yep! looks like we're all good [22:09:53] jhobs: cool [22:09:58] coreyfloyd: the email has all you need, including getting access [22:10:19] bearND: awesome [22:10:36] bearND: guess i can drink a bear then [22:10:56] coreyfloyd: Prost! [22:11:08] no wait drinking a bear would be dangerous! [22:11:22] oh bear [22:11:35] i have dumb fingers… [22:13:11] coreyfloyd: I see you're not on the access list. Same for mhurd and bgerstle. You may want to ask on labs to have them added as well. [22:14:40] coreyfloyd: if kristen can be a conference you can drink a bear [22:15:23] mhurd: someday I’ll make good english [22:15:46] hahah [22:15:53] bearND: ok - drat… [22:26:57] mhurd: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4TPlwwHM8Q [23:40:22] kaldari: when you run postRender after the DOM ready can you get that page working?