[08:05:45] <jdlrobson>	 joakino: barca! woo!!
[08:49:28] <joakino>	 jdlrobson: 🍻😄
[09:01:44] <jdlrobson2>	 joakino: care to merge https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/210300/ before we get another spam email/
[09:02:33] <joakino>	 jdlrobson2: sure thing
[09:27:41] <joakino>	 jdlrobson2: do all the tests pass for you?
[09:27:53] <joakino>	 https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/PgWwpygv
[09:28:02] <joakino>	 these are failing for me
[09:28:15] <jdlrobson2>	 that patch should fix them no?
[09:28:29] <jdlrobson2>	 what errors are you getting joakino ?
[09:28:34] <phuedx|AFK>	 yo
[09:28:51] <joakino>	 jdlrobson2: in new collection i get timeouts
[09:29:14] <joakino>	 jdlrobson2: and in edit collection i get unable to locate element, using {:css=>".collection-card-title a", :index=>1}
[09:29:19] <joakino>	 jdlrobson2: i run all the tests
[09:29:31] <joakino>	 looking into it
[09:29:36] <joakino>	 such a slow process
[09:30:30] <phuedx>	 ^
[09:30:41] <phuedx>	 only 22 new emails today! \o/
[09:32:10] <jdlrobson2>	 joakino: mm
[09:32:14] <jdlrobson2>	 joakino: mmm i think there was something weird with running multiple times
[09:46:52] <jdlrobson2>	 phuedx: when did you want to chat
[09:48:46] <joakino>	 jdlrobson2: https://gist.github.com/joakin/49b4bf5f37c8af8f8233 i'm just running the new collection ones
[09:48:58] <joakino>	 jdlrobson2: it seems like it doesn't actually change to alpha
[09:49:10] <joakino>	 when the test failed it was on stable, so the star was the normal watchstar
[09:49:29] <jdlrobson2>	 joakino: locally or on beta labs?
[09:49:38] <joakino>	 jdlrobson2: betalabs 
[09:49:59] <jdlrobson2>	 ergg i think i've seen this issue before. have you tried different driver?
[09:50:03] <joakino>	 jdlrobson2: also not logged in, wtf
[09:50:15] <jdlrobson2>	 there was an issue a while back with cookies
[09:50:17] <joakino>	 lol nothing works
[09:50:19] <jdlrobson2>	 so that would make sense
[09:50:21] <joakino>	 jdlrobson2: yeah that may be it
[09:50:26] <jdlrobson2>	 joakino: blind merge time? :)
[09:50:35] <joakino>	 i think i've seen the cookies message somewhere
[09:50:42] <joakino>	 jdlrobson2: sure, but how do i fix the cookies crap?
[09:50:57] <jdlrobson2>	 using chrome driver?
[09:51:07] <joakino>	 lol
[09:54:23] <phuedx>	 jdlrobson2: whenever
[09:54:32] <phuedx>	 ^^^ yeah confidence!!!!!!
[09:54:50] <jdlrobson2>	 WOO
[10:02:19] <jdlrobson2>	 phuedx: does mobile.experiments work for anons?
[10:02:47] <jdlrobson2>	 just answered my question.. it doesn't. Any reason why?
[10:03:42] <phuedx>	 jdlrobson2: i don't see why it shouldn't as it's only using local storage and a hash?
[10:03:57] <jdlrobson2>	 if ( $this->isAuthenticatedUser() ) {
[10:04:10] <jdlrobson2>	 config variable only getting added on authenticated pages
[10:05:03] <phuedx>	 no simple kill switch
[10:05:39] <phuedx>	 but if that's not a problem, then that's not a problem
[10:06:00] <jdlrobson2>	 yeh let me muse about this over some muesli
[10:06:11] <phuedx>	 jdlrobson2: the answer to your question is nuanced: it should but it's disabled for 'e,
[10:06:12] <phuedx>	 *em
[10:06:19] <phuedx>	 because we don't have a phone home mechanism
[10:06:41] <phuedx>	 nor a userland js TURN IT OFF TURN IT OFF mechanism for aggressively cached pages
[10:06:56] <jdlrobson2>	 phuedx: yeh and i guess you can never have a true a/b test with it for anons
[10:07:10] <phuedx>	 yeah but it can be accounted for
[10:07:13] <phuedx>	 by magic
[10:07:15] <phuedx>	 or science
[10:07:15] <jdlrobson2>	 MAGIC
[10:07:16] <phuedx>	 or something
[10:07:18] <jdlrobson2>	 MAGNETS
[10:07:23] <phuedx>	 MAGNETS
[10:07:43] <phuedx>	 aaron halfaker helped design and run experiments for anons with the growth team
[10:08:00] <phuedx>	 i've forgotten most of his incredibly well articulated, wicked smart things that he did in his analysis
[10:08:17] <jdlrobson2>	 did he use magnets?
[10:08:22] <phuedx>	 pretty much
[10:08:27] <jdlrobson2>	 that is smart
[10:08:28] <phuedx>	 and his amazing beard/noggin
[10:08:38] <jdlrobson2>	 phuedx: did you see the menu bug
[10:08:49] <jdlrobson2>	 we're gonna need a swat
[10:08:54] <jdlrobson2>	 https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98964
[10:09:00] <jdlrobson2>	 oh so you did
[10:09:05] <joakino>	 ok I give up, having the cookies problem with the chrome driver too
[10:09:07] <joakino>	 fuck it
[10:09:15] <jdlrobson2>	 joakino: so weird
[10:09:23] <jdlrobson2>	 in terms of the caching issue phuedx we have a tool in dev-scripts
[10:09:25] <jdlrobson2>	 it's just not automated
[10:09:31] <jdlrobson2>	 and you have to manually test
[10:10:10] <jdlrobson2>	 basically anything that touches HTML on server side or config variables are at risk
[10:15:31] <phuedx>	 jdlrobson2: yeah -- i think we can be a little cleverer
[10:15:41] <phuedx>	 also, it feels like something that should be flagged in review
[10:15:46] * phuedx adds it to The List
[10:15:55] <phuedx>	 but it's tricky bugger to remember
[10:16:01] <phuedx>	 anyway, jdlrobson2: you free now?
[10:16:14] <jdlrobson2>	 phuedx: sure
[10:16:24] <jdlrobson2>	 let me just grab coffee
[10:17:25] * phuedx has already had two cups :/
[10:17:41] <jdlrobson2>	 k
[10:19:27] <jdlrobson2>	 phuedx: ready when you are
[10:55:40] <joakino>	 jdlrobson2: hey can't find a patch for https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98798
[11:04:02] <joakino>	 ignore, i saw that they were subtasks of the bigger "failing tests" task
[11:04:28] <jdlrobson2>	 joakino: sorry talking to phuedx :)
[11:04:51] <joakino>	 no problemo
[11:58:09] <phuedx>	 gonna go and have lunch
[14:48:42] <phuedx>	 huzzah!
[14:49:05] <phuedx>	 i have an internet connection again
[15:00:03] <phuedx>	 power cuts are the worst
[15:18:26] <kristenlans>	 Hej from Sweden everyone!
[15:20:58] <dbrant>	 kristenlans: hej!
[15:24:02] <kristenlans>	 hej hej
[15:24:39] <kristenlans>	 phuedx joakino this is a good exercise for me to truly understand the European time zone meeting pain
[15:48:17] <joakino>	 hi
[15:48:45] <joakino>	 what's Adam Baso's irc handle?
[15:48:55] <joakino>	 cc kristenlans phuedx 
[15:49:14] <phuedx>	 dr0ptp4kt
[15:49:15] <kristenlans>	 joakino it's dr0ptp4kt
[15:49:19] <kristenlans>	 duh
[15:49:23] <kristenlans>	 ;-)
[15:50:18] <kristenlans>	 he's so 1337
[15:50:31] <joakino>	 dr0ptp4kt: yt?
[15:50:38] <joakino>	 haha thx both
[15:59:36] <dr0ptp4kt>	 phuedx: joakino sry left my client up. whatup?
[15:59:54] <dr0ptp4kt>	 joakino: oh, i c ur eml
[16:26:15] <phuedx>	 ugh
[16:26:22] <phuedx>	 electrician kept on turning off the powerz
[16:26:39] <phuedx>	 bmansurov: i'm finally going to take a swing at your max-width review \o/
[16:27:07] <bmansurov>	 phuedx: hi and hi5
[17:35:38] <mdholloway|lunch>	 mhurd: yo
[17:35:49] <mhurd>	 mdholloway: heya!
[17:36:09] <mdholloway>	 mhurd: got a minute to chat about image widths?
[17:36:15] <mhurd>	 mdholloway: ya batcave?
[17:36:37] <mdholloway>	 mhurd: sure.  i'll be a minute, checkout out a coworking space and need to grab a meeting room
[17:36:42] <mdholloway>	 2 mins
[17:36:48] <mhurd>	 mdholloway: no rush. ping me
[17:39:16] <mdholloway>	 mhurd: all right, i'm in the batcave
[19:55:10] <yurik>	 graphs graphs graphs graphs -- in R37 or on youtube
[19:55:14] <bearND>	 mdholloway: niedzielski : are you interested in a Batcave session re: TWN sync and baking a release?
[19:55:36] <niedzielski>	 bearND: yes, please. are you starting now?
[19:55:44] <mdholloway>	 sure, lemme grab a meeting room
[19:56:04] <bearND>	 niedzielski: mdholloway: whenever you are ready
[19:56:09] <niedzielski>	 bearND: omw
[19:56:54] <bearND>	 dbrant: gonna cut a bunch of release builds
[19:57:23] <dbrant>	 bearND: excelent! you mean beta + release candidates?
[19:57:35] <bearND>	 dbrant: yes
[19:57:48] <dbrant>	 let's do it
[21:10:25] <dr0ptp4kt>	 bearND: you still working?
[21:10:36] <bearND>	 dr0ptp4kt: yes
[21:10:45] <dr0ptp4kt>	 bearND: able to batcave?
[21:10:56] <dr0ptp4kt>	 bearND: i just gerund-ifieid batcave
[21:10:58] <bearND>	 i'm already in the batcave with niedzielski and mdholloway 
[21:11:06] <dr0ptp4kt>	 bearND: awesome, i'll alfred on over
[21:11:08] <bearND>	 dr0ptp4kt: ^
[21:12:04] <dbrant>	 anything I need to concern myself with? ;)
[21:17:38] <coreyfloyd>	 dr0ptp4kt: who do I request permission to create tags in Phab? Re: Release tags
[21:21:56] <dbrant>	 dr0ptp4kt: +1 ^
[21:22:11] <dr0ptp4kt>	 dbrant: thx. coreyfloyd one moment
[21:56:11] <coreyfloyd>	 etonkovidova: hey do you have the iOS 6 device handy?
[22:04:12] <etonkovidova>	 coreyfloyd: yes, but it does not have wiki aps :(
[22:13:21] <coreyfloyd>	 etonkovidova: oh - ok - not a problem
[22:13:44] <coreyfloyd>	 etonkovidova: im inviting you to hockey… to see if you can install the app on that device - do you have time for this?
[22:16:08] <etonkovidova>	 coreyfloyd: I am working with Android's bug QA sign off column
[22:16:50] <coreyfloyd>	 etonkovidova: ok - is mhurd in the office now - we are having an issue getting TSG the app via hockey, and we want to make sure that it works for us
[22:17:04] <coreyfloyd>	 mhurd: you at WMF? or did you go back home?
[22:17:09] <etonkovidova>	 coreyfloyd: I saw the email about hockeyapp build
[22:17:23] <etonkovidova>	 coreyfloyd: I am at wmf
[22:17:54] <coreyfloyd>	 etonkovidova: ok, if you don’t have time, trying to see if mhurd is onsite to do it for you
[22:17:56] <mhurd>	 coreyfloyd: just about back to apt. Ran a couple errands and stopped by office on way back
[22:18:07] <coreyfloyd>	 mhurd: no worries
[22:18:21] <etonkovidova>	 coreyfloyd: ok
[22:18:38] <coreyfloyd>	 etonkovidova: ok - well mhurd left, let me know if you can spare 5 minutes to install the build from hockey app on the iOS 6 device
[22:19:00] <mhurd>	 I have an iOS 6 device at home too
[22:19:00] <etonkovidova>	 coreyfloyd: checking ios 6...
[22:19:08] <coreyfloyd>	 etonkovidova: thanks!
[22:19:09] <mhurd>	 coreyfloyd: ^
[22:20:11] <coreyfloyd>	 mhurd: cool - is it in the profile?
[22:20:24] <coreyfloyd>	 mhurd: meaning is it registered on iTunes connect?
[22:20:45] <mhurd>	 coreyfloyd: hmm not sure. Will check as soon as I get back
[22:21:32] <coreyfloyd>	 etonkovidova: to setup hockey on the iOS 6 device you will need to, register on hockey by opening the email, and then go to the hockeyapp website on the device and log in with you credentials
[22:23:11] <bmansurov>	 kaldari: yt?
[22:23:19] <kaldari>	 yes
[22:23:51] <bmansurov>	 kaldari: any updates on the offsite? My tickets are being booked and I was wondering if I should wait
[22:24:11] <kaldari>	 hmm, lemme check...
[22:26:52] <etonkovidova>	 coreyfloyd: after registering on HockeyApp, and start installing  Beta, I got " Unable to Download Application' Wikipedia Mobile(Beta) could not be installed at this time
[22:26:59] <etonkovidova>	 coreyfloyd: ??
[22:27:34] <coreyfloyd>	 ok
[22:27:48] <coreyfloyd>	 etonkovidova: yeah thats what we were seeing for the TSG people as well
[22:27:54] <coreyfloyd>	 etonkovidova: thanks for checking
[22:28:05] <etonkovidova>	 coreyfloyd: np :)
[22:46:16] <quiddity>	 Mobile Web:  The log out button has vanished from the sidebar.  Known issue?  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29#Does_one_not_simply_log_out_of_mobile.3F
[23:05:43] <dbrant>	 bearND: niedzielski: ah, so we're starting to use the Alpha config in the Play Store! excellent
[23:06:29] <bearND>	 dbrant: already did that last time
[23:06:50] <dbrant>	 bearND: is this what TSG is using for testing?
[23:07:03] <quiddity>	 found it (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98759) , and replied on VPT.
[23:07:54] <bearND>	 dbrant: no, I just send the apk via email. We could do that in the future though. We would make sure they are in the alpha testing group and tell them to verify the version number
[23:07:55] <niedzielski>	 dbrant: bearND do we have a google group for alpha testers?
[23:08:12] <bearND>	 niedzielski: yes, it's configured in the dev console
[23:08:53] <bearND>	 niedzielski: wpandroidapptesters@googlegroups.com
[23:08:54] <niedzielski>	 bearND: hm, i'm not sure i can see that in my role
[23:08:59] <niedzielski>	 bearND: ah, cool
[23:09:20] <bearND>	 niedzielski: in the alpha tab, look at Manage list of testers
[23:10:04] <niedzielski>	 bearND: ah, there we go!
[23:10:55] <bearND>	 dbrant: niedzielski : ok, getting late here. going to sign off soon
[23:10:57] <bearND>	 last call
[23:11:11] <dbrant>	 bearND: good night!
[23:11:12] <niedzielski>	 bearND: see ya! thanks for release training!
[23:11:20] <bearND>	 tty tomorrow
[23:11:54] <niedzielski>	 bearND: dbrant just joined the test group thanks
[23:12:03] <niedzielski>	 bearND: night!
[23:20:17] <niedzielski>	 dbrant: hey dmitry. for the mobile app release history page, do you know how to use these <translate><!--T:63--></translate> tags? i don't know what number to use
[23:23:55] <dbrant>	 niedzielski: actually... no idea. I've just been copying the table contents from the previous release (tags and all), and updating it.  The translate tags seem to update automatically (?)
[23:24:37] <dbrant>	 niedzielski: could probably ask in #mediawiki-i18n
[23:24:44] <niedzielski>	 dbrant: so you just leave that all in wholeslae from the previous add?
[23:24:50] <niedzielski>	 dbrant: okey dokey
[23:24:51] <dbrant>	 niedzielski: yep