[00:23:48] bgerstle_afk: ping :) [13:10:49] bearND: around ? [13:11:10] matanya: yes [13:11:43] bearND: where can i express my distisfaction of the new preview link? :) [13:14:04] matanya: good question. I assume it's dbrant, since he's acting as product manager. He also deals with prioritization of new Phab tickets, etc. You probably want to either send him an email or ping him via IRC. [13:14:45] thanks bearND for now i left a comment on the phab ticket, but i'm not sure it is the right place. [13:14:58] matanya: on which one? [13:15:18] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95030 [13:16:36] ok, thanks [13:52:53] hi dbrant [13:53:04] matanya: hello [13:53:27] dbrant: I asked bearND: where can i express my distisfaction of the new preview link? :) [13:53:48] for now i put it on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95030 [13:54:07] but if it is not the right place, please guide me to the right place [13:54:41] matanya: yes, your comment on the Phab task has been noted! [13:55:02] matanya: this is still in the stages of user research. it's by no means going into production yet. [13:55:03] ok, i must go now, see you later. :) [14:29:13] dbrant: it's in beta now [14:29:30] i mean link previews [14:30:16] bearND: ah, yes! excellent. looking forward to some data... [14:34:19] dbrant: matanya's comment is a valid concern. I wonder what we should do to let people voice their discontent about this new feature. I think if we have a way to turn off this feature we could use EL to track it. [14:34:39] and get some idea how many people don't like it [14:40:54] bearND: I'll speak with Vibha about this... we'll make sure that our UX researchers are asking users whether they actually like the previews vs. plain navigation. And perhaps she can think of a design to allow users to opt out of it. [14:41:37] dbrant: thanks [14:51:13] bearND: This might be one of those features where we're blinded by the novelty of it, but in reality, the users might be annoyed by seeing "too much" of it. I think the key is to figure out when exactly to show it (i.e. whether showing it for every link-click is the right choice). [14:54:27] dbrant: ^ agreed [14:54:38] dbrant: yeah, i think it might be annoying having to click twice. Also, I've noticed on prototype 2, a click on the text extract area does not go to the linked page. Only a click on the title does the trick. I think that should be smiliar to prototype 1, and allow click on text extract to open the link. [14:55:31] bearND: hmm... i have prototype 2 enabled, and it works for me.. [14:58:44] I'll test that shortly on my devices. But first, a question: [14:59:07] This https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96311 is fixed by a subset (2 lines) of the CSS/LESS changes recently merged to the MobileApp extension [14:59:22] dbrant: my apologies, I tested it again, and it does work [14:59:33] mdholloway: ^ [14:59:43] T94646 (the full image-width patch) is not fully baked yet but it might be nice to get these couple of lines into the actual app [15:00:02] bearND: cool [15:00:55] and it seems like we're going with some minimal set of app-specific (or at least apps-specific) stylesheets [15:02:20] so should we back that last merge out of the MobileApp extension, merge an additional stylesheet to generate these two additional lines of CSS, generate the stylesheets, and then reapply what was recently merged to accommodate the in-progress work on T94646? [15:03:35] sorry, that wasn't a model of clarity [15:20:16] mdholloway: I think the clearest way would be two commits: you can do a git revert of the last patch as one commit, then add another commit for the two lines only. [16:57:43] hey bmansurov, nice work on the code review stuff [16:58:06] we should talk about gating the zerobanner stuff -- maybe a feature flag so we can get it onto labs? [16:58:37] phuedx: sure, let's talk about it during/after the standup [16:58:57] coolio [17:09:49] coreyfloyd: hey corey [17:09:59] coreyfloyd: i cant see any test flight builds out [17:10:06] coreyfloyd: how do i get hold of the alpha build [17:10:22] moizsyed: oh - you know what you may be off of the alpha… let me get you added. [17:10:32] coreyfloyd: awesome, thanks [17:12:08] moizsyed: you should have an email now inviting you [17:12:16] coreyfloyd: thx [17:14:01] coreyfloyd: this looks much better [17:14:14] coreyfloyd: still has content flickers when you go back and forward [17:14:35] moizsyed: cool - yeah… still working on it, yeah and that flashing banner isn’t helping… [17:14:47] moizsyed: were basically coming up against the limits of what we can do… [17:15:32] moizsyed: we just can’t get the web performance that android can… not possible (unless we were iOS 8 only) - which is why i am pushing so hard to get more native UI in the app [17:15:48] coreyfloyd: agreed [17:15:58] coreyfloyd: well, if you need any help pushing that argument let me know [17:16:24] coreyfloyd: thanks for getting back to me on that ticket [17:20:09] moizsyed: no worries, and please keep filing tickets against it! [17:50:40] coreyfloyd: shall we cancel the prioritization mtg? [17:55:46] dbrant: I think? [17:56:05] dbrant: I think kristen won’t be here and its like unstructured right? [17:56:27] coreyfloyd: yep, i'd vote to cancel. [17:56:49] dbrant: sounds good to me [18:22:56] etonkovidova: FYI - I commented on this ticket to get more information: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99106 [18:35:30] coreyfloyd: I added expected results to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99106. Sorry if it was unclear - I thought it was a simple issue of displaying pictures(in the Image Gallery, Saved/Recent pages) that are not shown on the page [19:01:00] etonkovidova: thanks - yeah - sorry, just want obvious - that helps a lot - I don’t always see all the features go through development, so I don’t always have context for triaging the bugs without the expected results section. [19:01:40] coreyfloyd: no problem :) [20:16:16] dbrant: bearND mdholloway dr0ptp4kt_h hey guys. we're having a family emergency and i need to take my wife to the airport. i'll be offline for the next couple hours but will make it up tonight. sorry for any inconvenience [20:16:41] dbrant: bearND mdholloway dr0ptp4kt_h i have my cell on me if there's any issues. sorry about the no-notice [20:17:17] niedzielski: oh, no worries. hope everything is ok [20:18:28] niedzielski: no worries, stephen, take care. [20:19:05] niedzielski: no problem, take care [22:13:56] dbrant: bearND mdholloway dr0ptp4kt_h back now