[00:05:15] jdlrobson2: you still busy? [00:05:36] not any more i'll come on over [00:05:41] thanks! [09:08:33] morning [09:13:28] good morning [16:02:37] bearND, dbrant https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T75086#1334146 :( any ideas? [16:04:34] hmm, but edit's to pages are made with the username: https://ticket.wikimedia.org/otrs/index.pl?Action=AgentTicketZoom&TicketID=8329218 maybe the problem isn't fixed, and it is very sporadically [16:10:06] FlorianSW: no ideas. The app doesn't support visiting Talk pages, much less editing them :( [16:10:44] dbrant but it's the same workflow as for editing. You can add your signature to an article page, too [16:10:47] :/ [16:12:22] FlorianSW: Hmmm, I thought this was fixed on the Android app. I do remember it was not easy to reproduce. I did check the history of his User_talk page but only see his user name used, not the IP. [16:15:15] FlorianSW: dbrant : Oh, I see now. It's not the history page he's complaining but the replacement of the tildes [16:15:24] on the actual page [16:15:50] bearND: have you found the exact revision where the edit is made by his user, but the signature is resolved to the IP adress? Maybe i first ask for the link to the revision diff to see the problem. I remember that the problem was fixed with something like "assert=user" to assert an edit to the user. I'm not sure, how this is implemented on the api backend, but maybe the parser uses another user object or something else [16:16:09] bearND: correct :( [16:16:10] :) [16:20:23] FlorianSW: No, I have not found the revision of the edit. I only found one IP address on the User_talk page but I think that came from another, not-logged in, user. [16:20:40] \o everyone [16:20:43] FlorianSW: Would you ask him for the revision? [16:21:08] bearND: yeah, i'm doing that :) Thanks bearND and dbrant! [16:23:51] bearND: fin [16:23:53] jdlrobson2: hi :) [16:24:40] hi [16:24:56] FlorianSW: looks great! Thanks [16:25:14] bearND: thx, np :) [16:25:20] hey FlorianSW did you enjoy the hackathon? [16:25:57] jdlrobson2: yeah! :) It wasn't so good, that i had to leave so early and hadn't the chance to say "good by" :( [16:26:24] yeah sorry about that! i didn't realise you were going going then :) [16:26:28] i thought you were going to another session [16:26:36] it's okay we'll get chances to hang out again :-) [16:26:42] hopefully Israel next year :) [16:27:18] jdlrobson2: yeah, maybe :) [16:27:29] joakino: reviewing your gather patches as we speak [16:28:14] jdlrobson2: awesome. i'm attending the meeting in 5th floor [16:28:19] jdlrobson2: I too hope to attend next year [16:28:42] codezee: \o/ [16:28:50] joakino: meeting in 5th floor?! [16:29:02] reorg feedback [16:29:35] ohh funs [16:46:13] jdlrobson2: gonna reboot router, i'll be in standup in 1min [16:46:26] joakino: you following the whole react is not a framework meme? :) [16:50:44] mdholloway: dbrant: did you want to a quick huddle re:CSS mods in the Batcave? [16:51:06] bmansurov: kaldari I am in a meeting that got scheduled over web standup, so won't make it :-( No Sam either. [16:51:17] bearND: mdholloway: sure, ready if you are [16:51:34] kristenlans: ok [16:51:58] mdholloway: dbrant: i'm in the cave [16:52:02] bearND: dbrant: can we do it after standup? i'm in the reorg mtg and just started participating [16:52:25] mdholloway: dbrant ok, then we can do it right after standup [16:52:35] bearND: sorry about that, thanks! [17:03:43] jdlrobson2: regarding https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/215319/4/resources/ext.gather.buttonspinner/ButtonWithSpinner.js do you think it's beneficial to extend the button? the thing is so small i'm not sure it's going to mean any advantage [17:04:14] if you think so I will now [17:08:29] maybe on the long term but maybe not on the short term [17:08:43] i guess if it's a simple thing to do we should do it, if not, not such a big deal [17:09:10] jdlrobson2: ok i'll have a look [17:27:51] dbrant: bearND: batcave? [17:28:02] mdholloway: already there [17:28:59] coreyfloyd: would you mind fwd'ing me Elena's OOO email? Can't find it in my mailbox. [17:29:25] kristenlans: let me see i can find it… i just vaguely remember it [17:32:36] kristenlans: just forwarded it… you were on the email [17:33:15] bgerstle: you ok with Elena QA being done in parallel with TSG next week? [17:33:37] kaity|away: you there ping me when you are [17:34:05] joakino: can you look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/214098? [17:34:50] legoktm: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/215232/1 < does this look good to you? [17:35:20] jdlrobson2: it's on my review list for today, haven't gotten to it yet [17:35:24] okay cool [17:35:38] it's fine from my side [17:38:06] coreyfloyd: yeah, sure. is the main problem that we won't be having elena as a step *before* TSG? [17:39:04] jdlrobson2: i'll have a look soon [17:43:09] coreyfloyd: thx [17:43:34] I think you meant to say "you *weren't* on the email" ;-) [17:44:07] jdlrobson2: joakino so... [17:45:05] there was a discussion yesterday at story prioritization mtg about plannign next sprint as mini mega team [17:45:40] jdlrobson2: joakino so I just added you guys to the estimation meetgin invite...which starts in 15 minutes 0________o [17:45:44] kristenlans: jon mentioned something in standup [17:46:15] what a nice surprise lol [17:46:46] joakino: jdlrobson2 given the short notice, if you guys can't make it, you could jsut estimate gather tasks in the normally scheduled gather estimation meeting time.... [17:47:19] kristenlans: isn't that the one for techleads and pms? [17:47:30] we're running short on every position lol [17:47:59] joakino: that was yesterday, today is team estimation (if we're talkign about the non-gather meetings) [17:48:05] kristenlans: errggggggggggggggg i can't make it :-/ [17:48:28] techdevleadproscrummanagerQApro [17:49:27] jdlrobson2: when would you guys normall estimate gather stuff? at kickoff monday? [17:50:26] kristenlans: yup [17:50:40] cards are always super clear and we've never had any issues ;-) [17:50:56] kristenlans: jon's have a meeting on thursday, and on monday kickoff we stimate [17:51:05] not jon's but jons [17:52:54] joakino jdlrobson2 OK how about this then: you guys come to this upcomgin meeting if you want/have time, but otherwise we'll plan to estimte remaingin (gather) tasks at Monday kickoff. [17:55:55] +1 sounds good [17:56:43] kristenlans: it's 8pm to 9pm to me now, i'd rather not work more today :( sorry [17:57:07] jdlrobson2: joakino I'll start workgin on gettign the meetigns merged [17:57:23] kristenlans: thanks! [17:59:31] mhurd: I just got out of the dentist. Can we sync at 11:30? Need a few minutes to get settled. [18:00:08] vibha: ah sure [18:00:16] I moved our sync to 11:30 [18:00:22] Thank you thank you [18:04:13] kaldari: bmansurov estimation mtg? [18:05:42] bbiab all [18:05:46] kristenlans: in the hangout, but no one there [18:05:52] kaldari i see you [18:05:57] (your icon) [18:06:00] reconnecting... [18:06:42] joakino: what was the additional theme you had in mind for quarterly planning? generally, i think the hope was to confine it to the prescribed themes. but i was curious what you had in mind. [18:07:04] kristenlans: I still don't see you, I'll try reconnecting.... [18:08:13] jdlrobson2: i asked James_F to add you to https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/212919 to take a quick peek in case there's some subtle issue wrt mfe or any other skin stuff [18:09:11] dr0ptp4kt: context? [18:09:43] it's a Monobook change so should have no impact on any other skin from what i understand [18:10:00] jdlrobson2: James_F mentioned that this technically requires feedback from Reading. as for the technical details, best of James_F describes that to you, i think. [18:10:04] dr0ptp4kt: i think the proposed themes are in the lines of easy to measure and report back up and good for getting the team started but our main theme IMO should be "Who can't read Wikipedia", that was the one I wanted to add. At least to take it into account. [18:10:06] there's no task number so i don't know the motivation (i assume mediawiki ui theme used on vector is broken in monobook) [18:11:03] James_F: ^ is there a phab task for https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/212919 ? [18:12:26] kaity bmansurov kaldari https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/mobile-web-sprint-49-w/ [18:13:12] http://hat.jit.su/28052 [18:27:36] mhurd: qq: Are we looking at this one also - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101072 [18:29:41] vibha: ya! [18:29:48] vibha: where are you? [18:30:01] im on the hangout [18:30:18] vibha: hold on [18:31:11] yessir [18:31:55] vibha: hmm i don't see you... [18:58:11] dbrant: hey i'm seeing major breakage with the upstream css. are you guys too? [18:58:27] bearND: ^ [18:59:16] mhurd: breakage in what sense? [19:02:42] dbrant__: getting a huge css diff when pulling css from mobile app extension [19:02:51] dbrant__: all styling completely broken [19:06:14] mhurd: aha, something we were just discussing. ^ bearND mdholloway [19:07:16] dbrant_: hmm i suspect https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/213431/2/MobileApp.php broke things... which is why i -1'ed it :) [19:07:48] dbrant_: not sure though... gotta run to lunch [19:08:35] mhurd: I don't see a -1 on that patch from you [19:25:41] back online [19:26:23] yay bmansurov! [19:26:43] kristenlans: I'm sorry for missing the important meeting. [19:27:19] hopefully everything went smooth [19:27:19] -ly [19:29:22] bmansurov: we missed you, but it went OK. :-) We'll have a chance to get you caught up at kickoff on Monday. [19:29:35] cool [19:33:29] hey joakino [19:34:01] if you can move your 1:1 w/Adam, I think we can do our sprint kickoff at 3 PM CEST!!! [19:35:48] Hallo from South Africa. [19:36:10] Where is the message gather-api-help-param-listtoken used? [19:36:21] joakino ah, JK, that woudl be 6 PM CEST. but better thatn 7:30 or 8:30 ! [19:36:34] Is it correct to call it "api-help"? Isn't it "apihelp" usually? [19:37:50] bearND: doh! i thought i did :) [19:38:18] mhurd: well, it's already merged [19:38:35] kristenlans: can you send me a email reminder [19:38:39] I'm on the go [19:39:01] hey joakino you're leaving now? [19:39:06] bearND: ya and something's now broken badly with css... still trying to track down if this was the cause... [19:39:11] joakino sure thing [19:40:11] mhurd: we chatted earlier with bgerstle and he said you don't pull in the styles from MobileApp extension anymore [19:40:26] bearND: ? yes we do. [19:40:27] *to the best of my knowledge* [19:40:35] i dunno what the bits.wikipedia.org thing is [19:40:37] just not every 24 hrs [19:40:44] only at build time now [19:40:54] bgerstle: when we run "make web" [19:41:42] jdlrobson2: left a while ago [19:41:48] joakino: :) [19:41:50] damn irccloud haha [19:41:50] mhurd: that hits bits.wikipedia.org and pulls the CSS from there... wasn't sure if that was the extension they were talking about [19:41:51] see you tomorrow [19:42:08] bgerstle: bearND: almost *all* of our css comes from it [19:42:09] mhurd: yeah, build time is probably not the best time for this. On Android we only pull those in via a separate script, and commit the results, so the builds a reproducible [19:42:40] bearND: ? that's what we do [19:43:10] mhurd: so, "make web" only generates the css files? [19:43:38] bearND: and runs grunt [19:43:43] compiles less & JS [19:43:55] mhurd: bgerstle: ah, cool, that makes sense [19:44:03] bearND: one of the things it does is runs a separate script that does exactly what yours does - fetches the css [19:44:58] bearND: so, to your knowledge, would any of the changes made here https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/213431/2/MobileApp.php have caused us to get different css? [19:45:34] bearND: batcave? [19:45:51] mhurd: yes, of course it would make the css different [19:46:30] mhurd: dbrant jdlrobson2 : that ^ patch got merged so quickly that I didn't get to test it [19:46:57] mhurd: depends what you are using to generate the css [19:47:11] dbrant showed me a script that generated css from a url [19:47:33] i don't know where that change happened though [19:48:02] bearND: this touches iOS - we should have been tagged in the patch [19:48:26] mhurd: just make sure you load skins.minerva.base.reset and skins.minerva.content.styles in your load.php url [19:48:33] and you'll notice no difference [19:48:54] mhurd: I tend to agree. Again, i was not very much involved in this patch [19:49:32] jdlrobson2: load.php url? [19:49:51] mhurd: so somewhere you have a script that generates a css file from ResourceLoader modules right? [19:50:01] grep for mobile.app.pagestyles.ios [19:50:23] i don't know where this happens [19:50:28] but it has to happen somewhere [19:50:58] mhurd: jdlrobson2 : Here's the patch for Android. I think iOS would need something similar [19:51:00] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/213465/1/scripts/make-css-assets.bash [19:51:45] exactly. [19:52:01] and maybe you guys should use same script to generate these assets :) [19:52:10] (git submodule maybe) [19:52:53] bearND: ah thanks! just maybe ping us or tag us on the patch next time something changes :) [19:53:40] bgerstle: coreyfloyd ^ gonna do a quick patch for this upstream css change i just discovered... [19:56:02] mhurd: bearND: yeah, sorry about that. That patch was made during the whirlwind of the hackathon, and I intended to let you know about it, and/or submit a patch for iOS myself, but it slipped my mind :( [19:56:47] dbrant: no worries! it makes sense now that i've had a chance to poke and prod it a bit. updating the iOS code now... [20:00:30] dbrant: here's the diff for our generated styles.css before and after https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/213431/. It looks close, but like we're missing a bit of styling from the top. [20:00:41] dbrant: http://pastebin.com/YZSjcx73 [20:01:20] dbrant: (stephen's edit button patch shows up on the bottom so disregard that, it's a known difference) [20:02:27] mdholloway: dbrant bearND ya i'm seeing problems and breakage even after updating. seeing same missing bits as michael and "skins.minerva.reset": "missing" warning too at top off css... [20:02:43] mhurd: yeah, i was just about to say that bit particularly worries me [20:02:44] styling is still way broken... [20:03:44] have massive increase in whitespace. quotes look wonky. extra padding crept in around lead image... [20:04:23] mhurd: same [20:04:39] mhurd: close to same, that is. sounds like your articles are more oaffected. [20:04:42] dbrant: bearND mdholloway recommend reverting this change until its output is properly tested agains old output... [20:05:01] mhurd: our main page looks way different, not really in a good way [20:05:24] mhurd: yeah, i'd agree [20:06:22] mhurd: you mean the change on MobileApps? [20:06:33] or we need to figure out exactly what the url ( https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/213465/1/scripts/make-css-assets.bash ) should be changed to to get exact same css [20:06:54] bearND: dbrant mdholloway can we just jump on a hangout? [20:07:33] mhurd: sure [20:19:35] joakino__away: ok, sounds like JonKatz might have said go ahead and add it - in a meeting right now - go for adding that as a theme [20:29:57] marxarelli: there? [20:32:42] jdlrobson2: so, it looks like MobileFrontend is no longer providing skins.minerva.reset when we load our CSS styles for the apps... [20:33:41] what url are you using? [20:33:55] oh spello [20:33:57] it's skins.minerva.base.reset [20:34:02] not skins.minerva.reset [20:35:16] jdlrobson2: ahh, good to know! it's changed since the hackathon [20:35:30] dbrant: jdlrobson2 hey that fixed it! [20:35:41] there was a serious regression in mobilefrontend because of it :) [20:35:43] so we had to rename [20:37:51] dbrant: i guess we're good on iOS then - i'll patch the make file [20:38:26] mhurd: ok then! i'll just update the android side. [20:38:44] dbrant: yay! [20:38:52] jdlrobson2: thanks for the help! :) [20:38:53] sweet [20:39:01] go team! [20:40:33] anyone seen baha man? [20:41:04] kaldari: how do i try out the browse experiment? [20:41:38] is beta labs working for you? [20:41:44] doesn't seem to be working for me [20:42:14] wfh kaldari [20:43:11] jdlrobson2: You can go to http://en.m.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Alcatraz_Island?mobileaction=alpha [20:45:58] ah perfect thanks kaldari [20:47:19] kaldari: where does SPecial topic tag live? [20:47:53] oh browse folder [20:50:22] mdholloway: bearND: i've updated the patch with the css script, and included the actual updated css, as well: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/213465 [20:51:23] mdholloway: bearND: so, there are still diffs in the CSS, but they are likely due to the actual changes that have happened in MFE since the last time we've pulled. [20:52:07] mdholloway: bearND: and... now that I'm testing the updated CSS, I'm already seeing issues. The collapsed infobox tables are broken. [20:52:17] dbrant: cool, thanks. I'll check them out once my vagrant provision is done [20:52:45] dbrant: hmm, i'm not seeing that. [20:53:01] dbrant: oops, saw your notice of the issues later. bummer [20:54:36] image margin/alignment issues might be caused by the changes i'm trying to undo here: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/215506/ [20:54:48] dbrant: ^ [20:58:01] mdholloway: oh maybe rename widenImages.less to widenImage-android.less ( conform to same convention as other android-specific less files ?) [20:58:14] on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/215506/ [20:58:45] mdholloway: oh nevermind. [20:59:25] mhurd: yeah, i think those need the boot [21:00:11] mdholloway: i'm seeing it on any article with an infobox... e.g. [[William Shatner]] [21:00:19] mhurd: how do your collapsed infoboxes look with the updated css? [21:00:32] dbrant: checking... [21:01:11] mhurd: actually i was going to say if you guys are still pulling from the extension anyway, maybe it makes sense for us both to pull that file from there rather than have one there that we use and one copy bundled in your app [21:01:19] dbrant: they look good! [21:01:27] mhurd: i guess i was confused, i thought you guys weren't pulling from it at all anymore [21:01:28] they appear too wide (horizontally scrollable) for me [21:01:57] dbrant: yeah, i'm not getting that either on a tablet, though just about to fire it up on my phone [21:02:04] hmm, weird [21:02:31] dbrant: hmm seems same on ios [21:03:01] mdholloway: line 66 here you can what iOS is pulling at the moment: https://git.wikimedia.org/blob/mediawiki%2Fextensions%2FMobileApp/50fd22062a38d4680ad49853fbfd2dc72843512a/MobileApp.php [21:03:46] mhurd: ha, yeah, i was just mentioning to bgerstle this morning i thought that bit might be obsolete! [21:04:02] mdholloway: what bit? [21:04:40] L65-72, since you guys weren't (i had the impression) pulling from the extension [21:05:09] so, not obsolete then [21:05:24] mdholloway: ya L65-72 *is* pulling those in [21:06:05] mdholloway: ya not sure how why it was thought we weren't pulling from the extension :) [21:06:07] i think we're talking past each other somehow, but i get it [21:06:08] jdlrobson2: Gilles has been testing this patch in his MW-Vagrant install and last I heard it makes things much much faster for him -- https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/201616/ [21:06:17] mdholloway: ah ya [21:06:22] mdholloway: no worry [21:06:25] mhurd: based on a convo we had while you were working on the image size patch, i think [21:06:42] jdlrobson2: I'd be interested to see if it helped you or caused problems with not noticing changes to css, js fast enough to make it worthwhile [21:07:09] mdholloway: ah i may have not been clear that we were only pulling it at build time [21:07:32] mhurd: yeah, i think that makes sense of it [21:07:34] mdholloway: the iOS app used to pull the css every time the app ran if more than 24 hrs had elapsed [21:09:54] mdholloway: just to be clear, when you checkout and run the new patch ( https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/213465 ), your infoboxes look fine? (i.e. not scrollable horizontally) [21:10:04] dbrant: ok, on i phone i'm getting the horizontally scrollable infoboxes as well [21:10:53] dbrant: *a phone [21:10:58] (obviously, ha) [21:11:11] mdholloway: alright! i'm not insane [21:11:25] dbrant: my tablet is just wide enough that the effect didn't show up [21:14:36] mdholloway: bearND: these are the kinds of things that worry me... there are quite a few modifications in the CSS, and we have no idea how they will impact us. [21:15:04] bd808: i'll take a look - i need to re-install my vagrant anyway to test some wikidata stuff [21:15:21] cool [21:15:24] kaity: JonKatz i need a reply from you guys to my email asap - i want to get that code merged and off everyone's plate [21:15:55] jdlrobson2 in a mtg out at 3, try to get back before then [21:16:05] np just by end of day :) [21:19:20] this one? Cluttered bottom page actions in beta [21:21:42] dbrant: but we were including CSS from MFE before. So what made the difference? Is it that we were only pulling a subset of LESS files, and now we are pulling more. /cc:jdlrobson2 [21:23:25] bearND: no, it's just that something must have been updated/changed in MFE that inadvertently impacts the way we present collapsed infoboxes. [21:25:13] dbrant: jdlrobson2: I see the problem lies in that the apps have features, like collapsible infoboxes, which MFE doesn't have. [21:26:12] right. [21:32:44] JonKatz: having some trouble with hangouts... [21:34:13] dbrant we're running a little late [21:50:49] mdholloway: sorry, forgot to publish my comments i wrote on the patch earlier [21:51:07] mdholloway: I added some to the previous PS [21:51:22] ah, i was wondering about that [21:52:16] bearND: cool. i'm ready to give my +1. [21:52:38] mdholloway: cool [22:08:18] bmansurov: given kaldari +1ed it before - want to change that +1 to a +2 on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/214362/ ? [22:08:25] i'd rather avoid a rebase [22:08:29] ok [22:08:39] thanks [22:08:44] np [22:08:54] jdlrobson2, bmansurov: I haven't tested, only looked at the code [22:09:03] ok given you've tested bmansurov :) [22:09:27] the ones i couldn't test were edge cases and needed further setups etc. [22:20:16] jdlrobson2 kaity and I responded. sorry for the delay [22:20:22] np thanks JonKatz ! [22:33:33] hello, [22:33:56] can this be also a room for gsm network doubts ? [22:34:10] i would like to ask something [22:34:58] here it goes : [22:37:15] when using mobile , why do i need to set "message center number" ? i mean , i use gsm network for talking to others , meaning reach others mobile devices and i dont need to configure nothing ... being SMS part of that why do i need SMS message center configuration ? [22:41:19] ngomes, using the wikipedia app? [22:41:48] ohh this is a app support room [22:41:54] sorry [22:42:04] ngomes, wait [22:42:07] ok [22:42:33] the message center is so the sms is sent to that center and relayed to the destination [22:42:41] yes [22:42:50] a phone can directly call someone, but an sms cannot [22:43:16] that's my doubt [22:43:40] why sms cannot be sent as text , but without configuring nothing ? [22:43:57] as a voice call is [22:45:24] ngomes, i guess because sometimes sms are not phone numbers, like some sms address are 5-number sequences [22:45:53] e.g. twitter 40404 [22:46:51] but sms between people [22:47:25] is 96xxxxxx to 96xxxxxx is case of my netwoek [22:49:50] well , i never heard of sms addresses ... [22:51:56] kaity: bmansurov: looks like diff page suffers from same issues in beta as history and watchlist - can we fix them all in one go? [22:52:27] yeah i created a task for it [22:52:47] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101313 [22:53:07] GEOFBOT, any other suggestion ? [22:53:28] ngomes, hmm, I don't know. but good luck on your quest :) [22:53:57] GEOFBOT, do u know a room of GSM experts that could reply to my question ? [22:54:44] ngomes, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_message_service_center [22:55:10] while phone calls are simple voice transmission, sms needs storage before delivery, and maintenance and what not [22:55:24] GEOFBOT, i've been there , it doesnt help [22:55:44] for e.g. if your phone is off how do you receive it after it is sent? the centers manage that [22:55:54] anways I dont want to go too off topic in this dev channel [22:56:53] GEOFBOT, but a sms message could do that automatically, and voice calls also have storage i.e. voicemail [22:57:37] SMS phone 1 -> center -> phone2. If phone2 is off, center can handle it until it goes back on. [22:57:49] Phone: phone 1 -> phone 2 -> voicemail (if phone2 doesn't answer) [22:58:51] are you sure its phone1 -> phone2 and not phone1 -> center -> phone2 ? [22:59:30] well, even phone calls need to go through some kind of infrastructure. [22:59:50] yeah, im thinking that too ... [23:01:12] I'm not sure why, and this probably isn't a great place to discuss, sorry [23:01:41] GEOFBOT, ok thanks for your time, do u have any ideia which room can i ask this ? [23:01:55] i dont use irc as often , i dont know freenode [23:02:16] hey bmansurov [23:02:31] yes [23:02:38] do you know if all of the max-width work was built into beta? [23:02:46] was any of it built into stable? [23:02:53] yes, alpha and beta only [23:03:03] why? do you see any in stable? [23:03:14] bmansurov: ok [23:03:30] GEOFBOT, thanks i'll try and find some place else. thanks for your time [23:03:40] bmansurov: do you think we should specify for each card where it should go? [23:03:52] kaity: sure [23:04:22] bmansurov: the max-width for toasts appears in stable [23:04:29] https://www.dropbox.com/s/wc07w2h6ypulon4/Screenshot%202015-06-03%2016.03.56.png?dl=0 [23:04:59] kaity: i don't remember working on toast max width [23:05:18] kaldari, jdlrobson2 do you know? ^ [23:05:20] bmansurov: yea I can't find the phab task [23:05:39] kaity: i can check the code and see when it was done so [23:06:25] bmansurov: its ok, not necessary [23:06:44] just trying to figure out what we need to move to stable [23:07:10] kaity: drawer max width is set to 500 and it seems it has been the case for some time [23:08:01] at least since 2015-04-18 [23:08:26] gotta go, will be online shortly, hopefully the internet is up again in my neighborhood [23:08:31] kaity: yeah, that was not related to the recent work [23:09:08] i have no idea kaity - i haven't worked on any of that stuff [23:12:29] ngomes, I have no idea either, good luck :) [23:12:57] GEOFBOT, i've found GSM RFC , reading, thanks :) [23:19:17] dr0ptp4kt: hi! [23:19:34] would you have 5 minutes for some dialogue [23:23:02] jdlrobson2: You're needed in #wikimedia-operations for your SWAT deployemnt [23:23:37] shoot thanks somehow got kicked out must have lost connection