[10:12:17] morning [10:20:12] morning [10:45:30] hey bmansurov [10:45:37] how are you [10:45:47] great, yourself? [10:45:52] doing some QA [10:46:27] bmansurov: i've sent an email to mobile-l regarding templates in gather (they are pre-compiled now) [10:46:41] joakino: cool [10:46:42] bmansurov: i'm doing code review trying to wrap up the spring [10:46:44] sprint [13:38:09] joakino: did you already download older iOS sims via Xcode? [13:49:36] bgerstle: idk, how would i check that [13:50:42] xcode i guess [13:54:22] joakino: yep. any luck? [13:54:37] joakino: it's under Prefences > Downloads [13:54:40] *obviously* [15:32:15] crap computer is upgrading to Yosemite, so slow [15:35:48] it's been 1 hour saying 2 minutes left [16:03:20] jdlrobson: joakino rmoen WILL YOU AVAILABLE!? [16:04:20] kaldari are you back from vacay or just trolling us? [16:04:49] kristenlans: trying, 1sec [16:05:09] kristenlans: one more week of vacation [16:06:19] kaldari you rascal. Hope you're enjoying :-) :D [16:07:13] kristenlans: Yes, thoroughly [16:07:55] jdlrobson: are you dissing us? [16:39:00] joakino: can you share the hangout link? google calendar won't open [16:39:11] https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/calendar/d2lraW1lZGlhLm9yZ19yMWNvaHVib3JmYjlqcWMydHA0bmwxcXMxZ0Bncm91cC5jYWxlbmRhci5nb29nbGUuY29t.ul9gthn1npltcse9jvkmcjseh4?authuser=1 [16:39:14] bmansurov: ^ [16:41:30] bearND: hey! just to confirm, we're not going forward with the formatversion=2 patch for the time being, correct? [17:00:57] phuedx|HOLIDAY: you're at holidy :/ But maybe you read this, if not, I'll add this comment to the bug, too :) To your question in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T99587 I think it's not related to our generation of the alternate/canonical tag, because we already use the Title object instead of the request url to build the full url. The Title::getFullUrl() function should always return the canonical url :) [17:15:33] staaaaandup [17:30:33] mdholloway: you ready? [17:30:45] mbinder: sure, omw [17:34:38] bearND dbrant: hey there. beta and prod use https://meta.wikimedia.org/beacon/event for event logging. are the logs stored on stat1002 or stat1003? [17:35:09] niedzielski: stat1003. [17:35:13] dbrant: thanks! [17:36:48] dbrant: should i want access to stat1002 for anything we do? [17:41:35] niedzielski: hmm, probably not at this point. that's just raw pageview data. [17:42:26] dbrant: ok cool. i know how to check the database and the all-events.log file for deployment-eventlogging02.eqiad.wmflabs. how do i do this for prod / beta on stat1003? these steps don't seem to be applicable: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/EventLogging/Testing/BetaLabs [17:47:20] niedzielski: here's an example for accessing the database: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/EventLogging#Sample_query [17:47:57] niedzielski: as for monitoring incoming events in real time, i don't believe that's possible on stat1003... but i may be wrong. [17:49:07] dbrant: nice! confirmed the example you set works fine. thanks! so this database has both prod and beta in it? [17:49:21] niedzielski: yep [17:50:00] alright sent the invitses [17:50:26] niedzielski: both prod and beta use the same schemas; we simply use the userAgent to distinguish them. [17:50:34] have a nice day bmansurov jdlrobson rmoen, gonna call it for today [17:50:45] cya [17:50:47] see ya joakino thanks for your work! [17:51:28] joakino: See you tomorrow [17:51:38] dr0ptp4kt: shall I update the phab task for the privacy policy? or did you want to? [17:55:31] dbrant: you go for it [17:55:33] dbrant: thx [18:05:49] coreyfloyd: mhurd bgerstle Any items come out of post-standup chat? [18:06:24] mbinder: no, we moved some stuff around a bit though [18:06:25] nothing major [18:06:37] great, I'll have a look, thanks [18:10:38] rmoen: bmansurov i think we should revert this border box issue [18:10:40] i found more examples [18:11:07] ok [18:16:12] dbrant: when you said stat1002 has raw pageview data, is that distinct from event logging? [18:16:41] niedzielski: yep [18:16:49] dbrant: ok, thanks! [18:21:53] rmoen: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Deployments&type=revision&diff=167150&oldid=167145 [18:22:20] jdlrobson: looking [18:25:52] mbinder: yeah we moved the war in the design and todo column out of the board… we are still dealing with the doing column [18:25:59] war = work [18:29:51] war = hell [18:29:58] hopefully work is more fun [18:30:11] * rmoen groans.. tin is denying my pubkey [18:30:40] jdlrobson: so i'm looking but it seems wmf/1.26wmf11 hasn't been cut yet so we are good with just wmf/1.26wmf10 cherry picks correct? [18:30:41] 2015 Goal: work ≠ hell [18:30:48] ha [18:30:58] rmoen: correct. We want to fix what's out on enwiki now [18:31:09] (today) [18:31:13] and we're gonna fix these bugs before the new branch gets cut tomorrow [18:31:17] so the next branch is bug free too [18:31:23] exactly [18:35:07] jdlrobson: sry so many questions.. Are weekly updates on Tuesdays to MF and gather a thing of the past now? [18:35:19] rmoen: correct [18:35:25] deployment schedule is now every week thanks to greg-g :) [18:35:45] rmoen: reading: "[Engineering] Simplifying the WMF deployment cadence" [18:36:03] ok will read up on that [18:36:59] dbrant: where i get the source for your wikipedia lite implementation? is there some branch i missed? [18:38:41] niedzielski: it's a branch in my personal fork of the app: https://github.com/dbrant/apps-android-wikipedia/tree/lite [18:38:50] it really shouldn't be "used" yet... [18:39:51] bearND|afk: based on your content provider docs, should we prefer to make changes in the webview (via js / css / html) or use native components? [18:39:54] dbrant: thanks! [18:41:37] niedzielski: is this ready to go: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/218983 (i.e. have you verified events coming through?) [18:42:56] dbrant: no, the table is still not being made in the database. the issue is being tracked in T102881 [18:43:13] ok, gotcha [18:57:28] hey people, WikiGrok is gone except for testwikis. This was announced on wikitech, is it stated on a wiki page anywhere? https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/841/ dpesm [18:57:35] *doesn't say [18:59:08] OK if I change Extension:WikiGrok status status to "unmaintained" ? [18:59:34] ^ JonKatz ? [18:59:59] spagewmf yes-thanks! [19:00:46] JonKatz: will do. Is there a wiki page summarizing the experiment, or should I link to your wikitech-l e-mail? [19:02:33] spagewmf there is, let me dig around (but you can also link to the email) [19:03:22] spagewmf I think this is the best page to link to...unless this is the page you are already editing [19:11:47] JonKatz: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/profile/841/ , similar phrasing on the extension page [19:16:18] brb taking lunch [19:17:50] bearND|afk: would you mind re-reviewing this guy? i believe all comments are addressed: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/219269/ [19:21:55] niedzielski: ok, will review.. about your other question. The answer is complicated. It's kind of both since we both will have an html route and a lite route for the time being. [19:23:31] bearND: thanks. i guess what i'm really asking is for the main wikipedia app, has it been decided to prefer the webview over native components? [19:32:41] niedzielski: for the time being, we're keeping the webview. our first step will be to create a service route that produces the same kind of "mobileview" response that we currently receive, but with all the DOM transformations pre-done. [19:34:25] dbrant: ok, thanks! [19:39:08] rmoen: any more questions around swating later? Could do with some help clearing out the bugs in code review if you have some time. [19:46:27] jdlrobson: eating my lunch. A few more minutes after I return i'll have the onboarding task done. Then happy to code review / fix bugs [19:46:55] mdholloway|afk: check out my response on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100810 [19:47:01] rmoen: i'd hold off on the onboarding task - it's not going to get merged till after next branch cut anyhow (since it's a story not a bug) [19:47:17] jdlrobson: like i said i'm minutes from finishing [19:47:30] ok just saying ;-) [19:47:32] I'm working on landing my work faster so finishing is good [19:51:52] bearND: thx [21:19:27] coreyfloyd: hey are you working on the language icon? just wanted to be sure you had the right icon [21:23:58] mdholloway bearND dbrant: do we want / have a phab to remove http code from the app? [21:27:50] bmansurov: are you serious...? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/219874/1//COMMIT_MSG [21:27:56] just edit the commit message :) [21:28:04] jdlrobson: got stuck on making the third param optional in the regex. moving on to bugs and whatnot [21:28:22] jdlrobson: editing is easy, i just want us to get in the habit of doing the things right [21:28:38] bmansurov: i edit people's commit messages all the time. It's cheap. [21:28:45] the bugs more important. [21:29:01] jdlrobson: and they keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again? ;) [21:29:33] mistakes will be made [21:30:31] rmoen: I agree, but if you don't tell the person that they're making a mistake, then they will be made again [21:31:40] bmansurov: If you find me doing it 20 times in a row then yes please flag it to me. Otherwise you are just going to annoy me... :) [21:32:08] baha the annoyer [21:32:37] lol [21:34:12] bmansurov, jdlrobson going through the code review column [21:34:49] mdholloway: batcave? [21:35:10] rmoen: cool [21:35:11] dr0ptp4kt: omw! [21:41:11] dr0ptp4kt: i'm there [21:44:57] mdholloway: sorry, got distracted. here i come [21:56:19] rmoen: bmansurov i've just been going through beta labs in stable. So far so good, [21:56:30] gonna step out for a coffee, and then swat at 4pm @rmoen ? [21:57:38] jdlrobson: Yeah I can either swat our things or we can just verify. Things have changed on deployment, I need to read up on wikitech now to proxycommand my key. [21:58:13] If i can figure out how to get on Tin i can do our swat. Otherwise someone on the schedule can do it [22:05:47] sounds good [22:05:49] brb [22:06:09] k [22:37:46] marxarelli: seems to be an issue with api in Echo tests (#wikimedia-collaboration) might be worth investigating [23:55:34] mhurd: hey monte [23:55:44] were you working on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T97780 ? [23:55:45] kaity: heya! [23:56:10] mhurd: do you know if the icon got updated with the latest? [23:56:31] kaity: oh on the icon - i haven't updated it yet - i can try to do so before i leave today [23:56:45] mhurd: thanks! wasn't sure if that was you or corey [23:58:20] kaity: normally whoever was working the ticket would do it, but i have to fiddle with some things to get icons into our glyph font. only takes a minute, but i haven't had a chance to step the other guys through the process yet. soon though! :) [23:58:35] mhurd: ok cool thanks! [23:58:54] kaity: np! i'll ping you when i get it done [23:59:00] hopefully soon!