[08:30:54] <phuedx>	 morning y'all
[09:20:43] <phuedx>	 need another cup of coffee v.v
[09:25:08] <joakino>	 hi phuedx!
[09:25:20] <phuedx>	 hey!!!
[09:25:24] <phuedx>	 joakino!!!
[09:25:27] <phuedx>	 ltns
[09:28:40] <joakino>	 phuedx: back from holidays :)
[09:29:19] <phuedx>	 sufficiently chilled
[09:30:07] <joakino>	 i guess so
[09:30:25] <joakino>	 how's everything going
[09:30:26] <phuedx>	 what the hell is that supposed to mean?
[09:30:31] <phuedx>	 you were off for like a month
[09:30:35] <joakino>	 haha
[09:30:37] <phuedx>	 you should be so laid back right now ;)
[09:31:19] <phuedx>	 joakino: sec
[09:31:23] <phuedx>	 just finishing off a brew
[09:31:34] <joakino>	 i am i am http://media.giphy.com/media/3o85xHoVsRrCmvog1i/giphy.gif
[09:34:48] <phuedx>	 joakino: i'm in tracy island if you want to chat
[09:35:23] <joakino>	 sure, one sec
[10:11:32] <hashar>	 pff
[10:11:37] <hashar>	 now I had to look it up on youtube
[10:11:47] <hashar>	 and end up with "how to steal a BMW"... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A21_a0vjV8w
[10:11:55] <hashar>	 nsfw / french etc
[10:23:33] <Reedy>	 If he's done things right, after a holiday you need a holiday from your holiday
[10:49:00] <joakino>	 phuedx: just got to your email about https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Developer_Summit_2016#Call_for_participation
[10:49:23] <phuedx>	 :'(
[10:49:54] <joakino>	 phuedx: i'm late lol
[10:50:02] <joakino>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Developer_Summit_2016#Submissions_and_selection_process
[10:51:02] <phuedx>	 i know
[11:01:16] <phuedx>	 getting the kids some lunch and to be
[11:01:17] <phuedx>	 *bed
[11:02:54] <joakino>	 👍
[11:05:08] <joakino>	 it's cool that irccloud has updated their UI to not suck ass
[12:14:25] <Niharika>	 joakino: And they now let us have the channels list on the left. I always wanted that!
[12:15:41] <joakino>	 Niharika: and change colors and font! awesome
[12:15:46] <joakino>	 thanks for the heads up :D
[12:16:13] <Niharika>	 I bet you'll change back to the default color scheme soon enough though...
[12:18:21] <joakino>	 why?
[12:18:37] <joakino>	 theres emoji autocompletion too 💩
[12:20:11] <Niharika>	 joakino: I dunno, that's been my experience. If they'd left the chat window white, that would have been much better. 🌳
[12:20:16] <Niharika>	 Nice!
[12:25:08] <joakino>	 Niharika: use stylebot for tweaking the UI, that's what I do :)
[12:27:09] <Niharika>	 I don't use Chrome. :) 
[12:34:09] <joakino>	 Niharika: sorry i meant stylish, i use it both in chrome and firefox
[12:36:18] <Niharika>	 joakino: Cool, thanks!
[15:10:54] <kristenlans>	 Welcome back hurricane joakino
[15:16:58] <hashar>	 niedzielski: hello, I replied again https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/243181/1/jjb/mobile.yaml,unified
[15:17:29] <niedzielski>	 hashar: hey there. checking now
[15:17:57] <hashar>	 niedzielski: the publishers are done after the fact and do not run test commands themselves
[15:18:19] <hashar>	 the 'archive' one is to attach file to the build. They are shown on the build# result page
[15:18:59] <niedzielski>	 hashar: ah, i had a misconception about publisher concept but the term "publisher" makes a lot more sense now :)
[15:19:34] <hashar>	 and they are run regardless of the build command status
[15:19:36] <hashar>	 ie
[15:19:39] <hashar>	 a test can fail the build
[15:19:46] <hashar>	 the publishers will be run nonetheless
[15:20:13] <niedzielski>	 i see. i think everything looks good.
[15:20:15] <niedzielski>	 will +1
[15:20:28] <hashar>	 still have to try capturing all the checkstyle reports :D
[15:22:13] <niedzielski>	 :)
[15:29:03] <hashar>	 niedzielski: feel free to amend as needed
[15:29:07] <hashar>	 and deploy the job via JJB
[15:29:18] <hashar>	 you can rebuild it as needed against the master branch
[15:29:24] <hashar>	 there is a "rebuild" button
[15:29:51] <niedzielski>	 hashar: makes sense. will do. i'm in the middle of a rebase on something else but will deploy after that
[15:31:18] <hashar>	 niedzielski: then you can poke folks in #wikimedia-releng to get it +2 ed :}
[15:31:24] <hashar>	 I am off ! dad duties
[15:31:29] <niedzielski>	 thanks! :)
[15:44:00] <joakino>	 hi kristenlans !
[15:46:36] <phuedx>	 how i imagined joakino coming back off holiday: http://i.giphy.com/7KAp6MDucnjfa.gif
[15:47:52] <joakino>	 phuedx: seriously that was the first image i thought about putting in my "i'm back" email
[15:47:55] <joakino>	 haha
[15:48:03] <phuedx>	 <3
[15:48:03] <phuedx>	 :D
[15:48:19] <phuedx>	 how's the email backlog joakino?
[15:50:46] <joakino>	 phuedx: not sure what to do with the phab label
[15:51:03] <phuedx>	 what everyone else does: Ctrl+A Del
[15:52:38] <jdlrobson>	 hey joakino ! welcome home from amazing vacation time!
[15:53:04] <joakino>	 hi jdlrobson ! 😁
[15:53:17] <jdlrobson>	 so what your trip as epic as it seemed?
[15:53:27] <jdlrobson>	 how were corn islands? Did you go?
[15:57:37] <joakino>	 jdlrobson: little corn island is just awesome
[15:57:57] <joakino>	 spent a week there doing absolutely nothing but read, swim, walk, eat and drink rum
[15:58:03] <jdlrobson>	 nice :)
[15:58:07] <jdlrobson>	 flor de cana!
[15:58:16] <joakino>	 yeep haha
[15:58:45] <joakino>	 worst of nicaragua is the food, pretty crappy everywhere
[15:59:14] <joakino>	 but a lot of fun
[16:14:48] <phuedx|afk>	 dinner time with the fam
[17:01:59] <kristenlans>	 jhobs: you standin
[17:02:01] <kristenlans>	 ?
[17:02:36] <jhobs>	 kristenlans: sick day, just sent it out, sorry for late notice
[17:05:56] <phuedx>	 jhobs: are you well enough for a 5 minute sync post standup?
[17:07:28] <jhobs>	 phuedx: sure, but I'll probably be audio only
[17:08:03] <jhobs>	 phuedx: just give me a call when you're ready
[17:18:46] <phuedx>	 jhobs: go!
[17:18:50] <phuedx>	 ENGAGE!
[17:18:51] <phuedx>	 ENABLE!
[17:24:24] <bearND>	 mdholloway: I see the same services failure on master, so, I'm going to take a look
[17:24:36] <mdholloway>	 bearND: ok
[17:29:04] <mdholloway>	 bearND: i'll make the quick change you mentioned in the meantime
[17:42:13] <bearND>	 mdholloway|brb: ok
[17:42:29] <d3r1ck>	 jdlrobson: hey
[18:35:20] <niedzielski>	 dbrant: do we have any funnels around nearby? i was curious if we had any map stats to share today but didn't see any logging around it
[18:36:03] <dbrant>	 niedzielski: we do not, yet
[18:36:54] <niedzielski>	 dbrant: ok cool. i guess we'll just let the disco dept speak to any load spikes their seeing
[18:39:18] <dbrant>	 niedzielski: we should definitely add some instrumentation to the new nearby screen. In an upcoming sprint, perhaps.
[19:51:44] <mdholloway>	 bearND|afk: deployment today?
[19:52:15] <bearND>	 mdholloway: nah
[19:52:29] <mdholloway>	 bearND: cool
[20:17:36] <gwicke>	 bearND: hey, got a moment?
[20:19:08] * gwicke is wondering about the Android app / mobile app service deploy timeline
[20:31:46] <bearND>	 gwicke: what do you mean?
[20:32:09] <gwicke>	 bearND: I was wondering about the timeline of using the mobile app end points from the Android app
[20:32:17] <gwicke>	 want to mention that in our QR slides
[20:35:46] <bearND>	 gwicke: my estimate of that would be in a couple of weeks, probably around end of oct. I want to get it to use Parsoid and also want to see if the web team could reuse it
[20:36:23] <gwicke>	 okay
[20:36:35] <gwicke>	 so for now it's manual testing only, correct?
[20:37:01] <yurik>	 jhobs, around?
[20:37:45] <jhobs>	 yurik: off sick today, but here if u need me re:deployment
[20:37:54] <yurik>	 jhobs, yes, which patches?
[20:38:01] <yurik>	 sick is bad
[20:38:16] <jhobs>	 yurik: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/242661/
[20:38:30] <jhobs>	 it's ok, i've been sick for most of the weekend, so I think the worst is over
[20:38:33] <yurik>	 jhobs, you said couple
[20:38:56] <jhobs>	 yurik: ended up being one. Thought I would be able to get to one today before deployment but then sick
[20:39:45] <yurik>	 jhobs, does it need to go to both releases, or just the latest?
[20:40:02] <jhobs>	 yurik: what do you mean?
[20:40:09] <bearND>	 gwicke: from the app: yes. We do have automated tests for the service.
[20:40:21] <jhobs>	 yurik: it needs to go to production asap
[20:40:58] <gwicke>	 bearND: okay, thanks!
[20:42:42] <yurik>	 jhobs, i'm cherrypicking it to 27.1 --that's seems to be the version in both the test & en.wiki
[20:42:46] <yurik>	 greg-g, ^
[20:43:33] <jhobs>	 yurik: ok thanks. Users currently see non-js interstitial and may have error in banner rendering, so this fix is pretty important
[20:43:43] <yurik>	 gotcha
[21:04:06] <yurik>	 jhobs, i rolled back the change, it was causing fatal errors in logstash
[21:04:25] <jhobs>	 yurik: no idea why, never happened locally :/
[21:06:37] <yurik>	 jhobs, you forgot "use ResourceLoader;" at the top
[21:07:06] <jhobs>	 yurik: curious as to why it worked fine...
[21:09:25] <yurik>	 jhobs, i might not be able to finish the deployment - my flight is in an hour. MaxSem could you possibly take over it?
[21:10:37] <jhobs>	 yurik: thanks for pushing fix at least
[21:10:52] <yurik>	 jhobs, i did not - i had to roll back
[21:11:14] <jhobs>	 yurik: no i mean the change you just merged
[21:11:23] <yurik>	 np
[21:11:30] <yurik>	 i will try to depl it as well
[21:11:43] <yurik>	 bleh, testing in prod in the worst possbile way ((
[21:15:07] <MaxSem>	 yurik, jhobs - ???
[21:17:07] <yurik>	 jhobs, re-deployed, hope it works this time
[21:17:33] <jhobs>	 yurik: thanks. That's weird that it was throwing PHP errors anyways since it was still working fine when I tested it after u deployed first time
[21:18:10] <yurik>	 MaxSem, i had to quick-deploy https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/242661/ + https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/243808/
[21:18:35] <yurik>	 MaxSem, if it all blows up again, please roll back the last two patches to the ZeroBanner ext
[21:18:44] <yurik>	 i am still online
[21:19:05] <MaxSem>	 yurik, how are deprecation warnings able to break prod?
[21:19:17] <MaxSem>	 they're just not enabled there
[21:19:54] <yurik>	 jhobs, please investigate, we should not have these errors like that. MaxSem see https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/243808/
[21:21:23] <yurik>	 jhobs, we had almost 5000 errors in the logs in 5 min
[21:25:47] <jhobs>	 yurik: i have no idea why I never saw any errors locally is the thing :/ and MaxSem js console deprecation warnings were showing up in production and nowhere else, which alerted me to some imminent deprecations that needed resolving, hence this deployment
[21:26:37] <yurik>	 jhobs, yes, but the problem is not in the js, its in php - and any php errors like that might cause fatal errors
[21:47:49] <yurik>	 MaxSem, jhobs - i am about to start boarding. In case the problem resurfaces (which i seriously doubt - i have been watching it for the past half an hour), please revert the two last patches to the ZeroBanner.
[21:50:02] <yurik>	 jdlrobson, ^
[22:06:06] <bd808>	 JoshM: so ... what do you need me to do for the slides at this point? Wait for 2-4 to get some new data and then help with conditions for those?
[22:07:32] <JoshM>	 bd808: that sounds good. If you have anything to add to 2-4 that helps too. But conditions/tests is most helpful
[22:08:48] <bd808>	 I could propose some things but I think Kaity is really in a better position to challenge the status quo of UX
[22:09:26] <bd808>	 I'd really like to see desktop+mobile convergence
[22:09:39] <bd808>	 one responsive UI to rule them all
[22:15:18] <MaxSem>	 bd808, in 23rd century!
[22:22:27] <JoshM>	 bd808: thats a good, specific, one. I'll add it to our aspirations as "provide a consistant wikipedia experience across form factors"?
[22:26:04] <JoshM>	 s/consistant/consistent/
[23:22:09] <dr0ptp4kt>	 ok kristenlans i think i'm done editing the p2w transcript.
[23:36:34] <kaity>	 hey bgerstle_afk 
[23:36:47] <jdlrobson>	 mhurd: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114567