[00:00:22] <kaity_>	 dbrant: do you know if theres any reason i should get "can't open file" when i try downloading new apk?
[00:00:45] <dbrant>	 HaeB: that's exactly right -- the app sends an event when it's launched, if more than 24h have elapsed.
[00:01:31] <dbrant>	 kaity_: that's odd... is this on the same device you usually use?
[00:01:41] <kaity_>	 yes
[00:02:01] <kaity_>	 dbrant: made sure security allows downloads outside of playstore
[00:02:13] <kaity_>	 and i cleared out all the old apks
[00:04:03] <dbrant>	 kaity_: hmm! i just tried it, and i'm getting an error too! will investigate...
[00:04:46] <kaity_>	 dbrant: thanks!
[13:52:10] <mdholloway>	 dbrant: hey, did the title line-height task https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113003 happen to come up in design review yesterday?
[13:57:02] <dbrant>	 mdholloway: it did not :(  I think all it needs is to bump those numbers up just a skosh. (i.e. not more than the 2dp per line)
[13:58:19] <mdholloway>	 dbrant: cool.  i'll bump them up a bit and make sure the result looks good. 
[14:41:38] <dbrant>	 niedzielski: looks like translation tests are broken :(
[14:42:20] <niedzielski>	 dbrant: will try. seems strange for them to break without an associated commit
[14:43:55] <niedzielski>	 dbrant: hm, seem to run fine locally. where are you seeing the failure?
[14:44:23] <dbrant>	 niedzielski: the two most recent patches in gerrit
[14:48:09] <niedzielski>	 dbrant bearND|afk mdholloway: do we have an automatic translation pusher now? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/248005/
[14:49:30] <dbrant>	 i think we've always had that (?)
[14:49:45] <mdholloway>	 niedzielski: ha, I assumed you'd set that up...
[14:51:45] <niedzielski>	 dbrant: really? i don't think i've noticed it before. it doesn't even add us to the review. it just pushes and +2s without running the tests. i would like an automation but who resolves the conflicts that i've been handling manually in the web interface? maybe it only runs when they can be auto-resolved?
[14:52:03] <niedzielski>	 mdholloway: not me
[14:52:39] <niedzielski>	 mdholloway: if bearND|afk doesn't know, i'll check in on #mediawiki-i18n
[14:53:16] <mdholloway>	 niedzielski: now that i'm looking, it looks like today was the first commit by "translation updater bot" 
[14:54:45] <mdholloway>	 niedzielski: nm, it isn't
[14:54:50] <dbrant>	 mdholloway: nope: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/owner:L10n-bot+status:merged+project:apps/android/wikipedia,n,z
[14:55:23] <niedzielski>	 anyway i'll fix the tests
[16:42:16] <FlorianSW>	 jdlrobson: hi :) How are you? Can you explain your -1 here https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/247044/ ? *wondering*
[17:04:23] <dr0ptp4kt>	 atgomez: here's the ticket i mentioned: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110586
[17:09:19] <bearND>	 niedzielski: yes, l10n bot has been around before I started. It's actually a real person, not a bot. I've asked him in the past to exclude the android + ios projects. Not sure why he suddenly included them
[17:10:31] <bearND>	 (sorry, it took a while to respond. IRCCloud had some issues and I didn't see your message until now.)
[17:11:41] <niedzielski>	 bearND: that's cool. my client keeps disconnecting but there's no visual indication of it :| i'm using Kiwi IRC. i've spent a lot of time investigating different clients and i think this is easily the best in terms of a modern, friendly experience but this one bug is driving me nuts
[17:12:09] <niedzielski>	 bearND: i've been using firrre for my bouncer. with the exception of a k-line issue a couple days ago, it's been great (free and oss too)
[17:12:09] <bearND>	 niedzielski: which bug?
[17:12:19] <niedzielski>	 bearND: oh, it keeps disconnecting
[17:12:23] <bearND>	 ok
[17:12:43] <niedzielski>	 bearND: ok i'll try to email this l10n bot chap
[17:36:30] <niedzielski>	 dbrant: what do you think of that occulus headset for phones. is it samsung only?
[17:49:02] <etonkovidova>	 coreyfloyd: Can you pleasehttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110720 - it says: 4 Nearbys. But presently there are only 3 - is it ok?
[17:49:53] <coreyfloyd>	 etonkovidova: looking
[17:50:52] <coreyfloyd>	 etonkovidova: that ticket is no longer valid we should jus move it out. The home screen behavior has changed and described in newer tickets
[17:51:17] <etonkovidova>	 coreyfloyd: I suspected that :) 
[17:51:25] <etonkovidova>	 coreyfloyd: thx!
[17:51:31] <coreyfloyd>	 etonkovidova: yeh just move it to the last column and you should be good
[17:51:32] <coreyfloyd>	 np
[17:53:25] <etonkovidova>	 coreyfloyd: h,,... what about  https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104817 As a user, I want to see nearby articles on the Discover screen ? 
[17:55:22] <brion>	 hey anybody need an old (32-bit, non-retina) ipad mini or 3rd-gen (retina, 32-bit) ipad 3? i'm going to sell off some of my old devices to make room in my inventory if nobody needs em at wmf :D
[17:56:22] <brion>	 also got a 32-bit retina ipod touch (5th-gen)
[17:56:26] <brion>	 these all run current ios
[17:56:39] <brion>	 or an iPhone 4s :D
[17:56:47] <brion>	 (I onl yneed one of the ipod or the 4s)
[17:56:48] <FlorianSW>	 does anyone know the irc username of @Wikinaut (in phabricator)? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/248075/
[17:57:06] <brion>	 FlorianSW: he goes by Wikinaut on irc as well
[17:57:16] <brion>	 not always online but he sometimes drive-by messages me while i'm out :D
[17:57:25] <FlorianSW>	 brion: ah great, thanks for the info :)
[17:57:47] <FlorianSW>	 @wm-bot2 Wikinaut
[17:58:05] <wm-bot2>	 I will let you know when I see Wikinaut around here
[17:58:05] <FlorianSW>	 @notify Wikinaut
[17:58:21] <brion>	 he did some patches on mediawiki core for email notifications of watchlist stuff waaaaay back in the day
[17:58:54] <FlorianSW>	 yeah, he submitted a change in apps some minutes ago, too, and I hoped to see him here, now :D
[18:03:27] <dbrant>	 niedzielski: the VR headset is really sweet. Not without flaws, but very impressive. And yes, it only for Samsung Note 4 and Galaxy S6.
[18:05:43] <dbrant>	 niedzielski: it's very immersive, and it's very trippy when you're looking at a 360-degree scene, but your body isn't there!
[18:06:22] <brion>	 VR is finally coming :D the future is here....
[18:06:54] <brion>	 I keep drooling over the Microsoft hololens thing too (AR glasses)
[18:07:12] <brion>	 but I don't think I can convince myself to drop $3k on a dev unit for that just yet :D
[18:07:15] <dbrant>	 do want!
[18:08:10] * brion sticks to "simple" things like decoding video manually
[18:08:11] <brion>	 hehe
[18:08:13] <niedzielski>	 cool stuff. thanks!
[18:55:19] <mdholloway>	 niedzielski: nice, you inadverently repro'd T116006, eh?
[18:55:30] <mdholloway>	 (which seems to be the only way, sigh)
[18:56:23] <niedzielski>	 mdholloway: yeah, hopefully i can just run the test and repo again. i haven't tried
[18:59:38] <niedzielski>	 mdholloway: i wish i knew whether it was regression from the last beta or not. it's not practical to rebase all the new testing dependencies
[19:00:33] <mdholloway>	 niedzielski: i'm not seeing it in the screenshots
[19:12:48] <FlorianSW>	 dbrant, niedzielski bearND: Want to read a feedback about the app? https://ticket.wikimedia.org/otrs/index.pl?Action=AgentTicketZoom&TicketID=8734995 :P (satire)
[19:13:13] <niedzielski>	 FlorianSW: YES!
[19:14:06] <niedzielski>	 FlorianSW: actually, this isn't the first time this guy has left a message like this IIRC. i think the others were more tame (less good), but similar
[19:14:22] <dbrant>	 yep, there were similar ones before
[19:14:46] <niedzielski>	 we really need to get on the ball
[19:15:34] <dbrant>	 it takes time to compose those midnight copies of wikipedia :/
[19:15:42] <FlorianSW>	 niedzielski: you're right, he has an interesting history... I think about if I simply put them into spam or if I really answer them. I don't exepct much input from him.
[19:16:27] <niedzielski>	 FlorianSW: they don't strike me as someone with strong constructive tendencies
[19:16:28] <FlorianSW>	 that's the price for a bigger and bigger wikipedia. Maybe we need more hamsters?
[19:17:23] <FlorianSW>	 niedzielski: ah, I think simply quick close them :)
[19:17:29] <FlorianSW>	 *think I simply
[19:17:56] <niedzielski>	 maybe we should rename dark mode "midnight mode"
[19:18:03] <FlorianSW>	 :P
[19:19:50] <niedzielski>	 bearND dbrant mdholloway: any objections to starting a beta now?
[19:20:12] <mdholloway>	 niedzielski: none!
[19:22:45] <dbrant>	 niedzielski: hmm... how about we hammer on it some more, and update a few of the test cases for TSG, and release the beta first thing tomorrow? (that way we'll also get more use out of TSG for this round)
[19:23:09] <niedzielski>	 sounds good
[19:30:35] <yurik>	 aude, that fix for mobile frontend break - is it live?
[19:30:44] <yurik>	 i mean - is the bug happening in prod?
[19:30:48] <yurik>	 should we depl asap?
[19:33:48] <aude>	 yurik: yes
[19:34:51] <yurik>	 aude, which ver?  the deployment train is on right now
[19:35:14] <aude>	 wmf3
[19:35:36] <aude>	 that's deployed everywhere now
[19:40:52] <yurik>	 btw, jdlrobson , are you using any IDE tools?  and do you have all extensions checked out?
[19:41:18] <yurik>	 that's your bug ;)
[19:47:09] <niedzielski>	 mdholloway: nice job on the link preview continue button. looks really nice!
[19:47:22] <mdholloway>	 niedzielski: thanks!
[19:48:07] <mdholloway>	 niedzielski: i wasn't a big fan of the floating button at first but especially now with the new styling i think it works nicely
[19:48:38] <mdholloway>	 niedzielski: well, by "new," i guess i mean the styling we've had for a couple of months now, minus floating :)
[19:48:57] <niedzielski>	 mdholloway: for me, i liked it right away. it just makes link preview feel much more purposeful.
[19:49:27] <mdholloway>	 niedzielski: yeah, i agree
[19:49:28] <niedzielski>	 mdholloway: i wonder what the next version will look like. i really like this one
[19:53:08] * dbrant is on it ;)
[19:58:57] <FlorianSW>	 I like the new flyout menu :) Can't wait to see it in production :D
[19:59:15] <FlorianSW>	 AND: That I can turn off the link preview feature :)
[20:01:03] <dbrant>	 σ_σ
[20:12:57] <yurik>	 jdlrobson, please make sure you look at other people's code before changing public methods (((   makes aude and myself and logstash very unhappy
[22:36:40] <etonkovidova>	 bgerstle: since you're still online :) - I got 5.0.0.434 via TestFlight. Do you think I can trust it?  looks kind of unstable...
[22:36:57] <bgerstle>	 if it's unstable we need to address those issues
[22:37:02] <bgerstle>	 file away!
[22:37:54] <etonkovidova>	 bgerstle: good. I thought it may that TestFlight has some mangled build or something...
[22:38:28] <bgerstle>	 etonkovidova: i don't _think_ any issues you see would be TestFlight related, so let's assume it's innocent until proven otherwise ;-)
[22:38:52] <etonkovidova>	 bgerstle: ok then. thx!
[22:38:52] <bgerstle>	 etonkovidova: we'll know pretty quickly if we're not able to reproduce them
[22:39:02] <etonkovidova>	 bgerstle: true
[22:41:27] <bgerstle>	 etonkovidova: i'm heading out for the night, see you tomorrow!