[00:00:40] jhobs: cool [00:40:20] dr0ptp4kt: around? [00:40:29] jhobs: yup. what's up? [09:17:09] yo [10:46:01] buenos dias! [10:46:12] hi phuedx [10:50:46] hey joakino!!! [10:55:22] my ears are still ringing a little from the gig on monday [10:55:49] : [10:55:50] :/ [11:04:19] was it good? [11:06:16] it was /awesome/ [11:07:04] and the members of the band (toundra) were cool and humble too [11:13:46] nice! [11:45:35] gotta go to the dentist [11:45:37] will be back later. [11:46:20] later joakino [11:46:21] gl [11:46:25] hf? [12:31:44] heading out to lunch and then to a coffee shop [16:01:14] {brb [16:07:09] heading home [17:29:21] phuedx, joakino could someone help me diagnose a QuickSurveys issue? I'm at a loss here and I think it's from a fundamental misunderstanding of the differences between production and local instance [17:30:43] jhobs: i've got time, what's up? [17:30:48] tracy island? [17:31:04] jhobs: sure [17:49:37] mbinder: i'm going to try something funny: opening hangouts in two different types of browsers simultaneously. maybe i can actually be in two places at once - quantum superposition. or maybe it will crash the internet. [17:50:14] phuedx: you're the physicist here, right? how likely is it that if i try to be in two hangouts at once it will cause a glitch in the quantum fabric? [17:50:31] dr0ptp4kt: you are a brave man [17:50:40] dr0ptp4kt: i'm staying very clear of your hokey physics [17:50:41] :P [17:52:44] phuedx: :) [17:53:48] bd808: hey, I had an issue with the first QuickSurvey not working on testwiki after deployment this morning and phuedx is pretty sure he's diagnosed it, but could you take a look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/252456/ and see if that was most likely the problem? [17:54:04] I'm REALLY not used to this config stuff [17:54:14] "pretty sure" meaning "i think i've forgotten to do this before" [17:55:41] dr0ptp4kt: well, either it'll be funny, or we'll all die. cool. [17:56:06] dr0ptp4kt: pretty sure it won't let you use cam in both, but other than that I don't think it'll have too much of an issue [17:56:51] jhobs: yeah that looks like a proper fix. Our multiversion config stuff is a ibg bag of broken glass :/ [17:57:02] mbinder: you've successfully summarised some of the more famous experiments at the large hadron collider [17:57:09] * bd808 isn't here today ;) [17:57:13] bd808: could you +1 and i'll take it to a swat deploy? [17:57:17] oh shit my bad dude lol [17:57:22] lol [17:57:24] I floated today so I forgot it was a holiday [17:57:43] oh [17:57:45] wait [17:57:56] jhobs: no worries. If I was rally really not here I wouldn't have answered the ping [17:58:13] bd808: haha fair enough. Have a nice holiday :) [17:58:20] bd808, jhobs: i feel like a penny has just dropped -- is the 'm' in 'wmg' for multiversion? [17:58:43] or "'m gonna beat you with this big bag of broken glass?" [17:59:35] Wiki Media Global I think [17:59:47] i prefer my second suggestion [17:59:49] vs Wiki Global [17:59:59] also, that makes sense [18:00:05] which is always useful [18:00:33] basically crappy namespacing for global pollution [18:01:59] florian's suggestion is probably also a good one (just set the wg* directly in initialisesettings) [18:02:07] joakino: standup! (i'm being kristen) [18:02:18] standerp [18:02:21] going [18:02:44] bd808: ;) [18:04:34] hi jhobs. :-) [18:04:43] Can you send me the test link for the survey, jhobs? [18:06:08] hey leila, it's currently broken (mediawiki config variables are really confusing, apparently even to JonR), I've already submitted a patch for the fix and will be deploying it asap [18:06:21] I was about to send out an email but I'm in standup atm [18:06:27] so I'll be sending one out after [18:06:38] got it, jhobs. np. please take your time. [18:06:39] FlorianSW|away, bd808: I'll do that then, thanks [18:17:38] mbinder: standup? [18:45:00] FlorianSW|away: fixed that patch up if you'd like to take another look at it. Incidentally this may be the smallest patch ever submitted now [19:07:31] dbrant: hey is everyone working today? [19:07:48] kaity_: i believe so [19:07:57] dbrant: i'm taking the holiday but online now if you wanted to talk about anything [19:08:10] i signed off the link preview a/b [19:08:27] kaity_: excellent, thanks; that's mostly what I was looking for [19:09:12] kaity_: not much else for today, i think [19:09:56] dbrant: oh i also would sign off on the share a fact card but i wasn't sure exactly what was done on it [19:10:53] kaity_: that requires testing on a device that runs Android 6.0 (Marshmallow). I don't recall if you have such a device at the office... [19:10:54] dbrant: oh just saw michaels comment i'l work it out with him [19:17:42] thanks for the heads up email jhobs. [19:17:53] leila: yep, no worries [19:18:11] jhobs: I need to give the community a heads up about the survey. I'll go ahead and tell them that it will most probably go out tomorrow, and if not some time in the few days? [19:18:53] They don't need to know when /exactly/ it will go out if there is uncertainty, jhobs. [19:19:39] leila: I'd say most probably tomorrow, but if not then we'll update them. If it doesn't happen tomorrow then I'm gonna have to pull in some people from infrastructure or something to help fix it, so I don't know how long that could take [19:19:58] got it jhobs. makes sense [19:20:51] leila: it's just unfortunate that delay had to happen yesterday, or the fix would've gone out this morning instead of this evening and we'd know right now whether it'd be going out tomorrow or not haha [19:21:53] we're doing our best, jhobs. That's okay. :-) [19:50:32] dbrant: regarding T116591 Add "Support Wikimedia" option to Nav menu - "From Wikipedia founder..." message is not displayed on Mobile apps? [19:50:47] dbrant: is it intentional? [19:50:55] etonkovidova: yep! we just want the short "support wikipedia" nav item. [19:52:58] dbrant: well - ok- sigh. 'Support Wikipedia' is prominently displayed(much more so than on PC) and yet a user does not even see touching words that "Wikipedia is something special." [19:53:20] dbrant: :( --- but ok no problems with me [19:55:00] etonkovidova: they can easily display that text on the web page that the user sees after clicking the Nav item. [19:55:16] etonkovidova: for some reason, in the mobile version of the donation page, that text is not shown. [19:55:28] dbrant: that what I meant [19:55:45] etonkovidova: ah, well then it's a question for FR :) [19:56:04] dbrant: ok [20:00:37] dbrant: grooming today? or shall we soldier on without you? [20:46:11] mbinder: should i cancel that sm+pm+em sync meeting? the others cancelled. [20:46:37] mbinder: correction, jon katz hasn't cancelled. [20:47:21] mbinder: i'll check with him, too, to see if he wants to meet [20:48:49] mbinder: jon says cancel it. i'll cancel it. but reserve time on my calendar if you want to sync up with me. otherwise, it's shaping up to a be a less meetingful afternoon. [20:53:06] dr0ptp4kt: word, lets skip :) [21:13:24] mdholloway: i added a note at the bottom of the task: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117219 [21:13:43] dbrant: oh cool, thx! [21:38:09] dbrant: i can't make it work, but maybe i'm doing it wrong [21:38:36] mdholloway: are you running the dev build? [21:38:49] dbrant: yep [21:39:26] mdholloway: any errors in adb? [21:40:41] dbrant: on marshmallow, i was consistently seeing this in logcat: D/Finsky: [1] ExternalReferrer.access$100: Package state data is missing for org.wikipedia.dev [21:41:29] nothing of interest that i've noticed on lollipop yet [21:42:03] mdholloway: i didn't try it with marshmallow myself... i'll give it a go. [21:43:16] i should be starting with the app at least not running (possibly not yet installed), right? then send the signal, then install/start the app? i've tried both ways, neither had any effect that i could see [21:43:45] dbrant: always specifically with the dev debug build [21:44:26] mdholloway: well, the app should be installed ;) but not necessarily running; correct. [21:45:30] dbrant: not necessarily running, but it could be running already? [21:45:48] mdholloway: yep; if it's running already, then it should open a new tab. [21:45:54] mdholloway: i've just tried it on the Marshmallow emulator, and it works. [21:49:14] dbrant: hmmmm. i get no effect, on either a physical device or a genymotion emulator. [21:50:06] dbrant: the only adb error i've seen is when they were both connected to adb and i didn't specify one to receive the broadcast. [21:51:30] mdholloway: to be clear, you're going into adb shell, and pasting the command from the task? [21:53:50] dbrant: ah, got it, it works [21:53:59] mdholloway: alright! [21:55:03] dbrant: also, interestingly, i signed out of IRCCloud on my phone ~4:49ish and I still got notifications for your last couple of messages :/ [21:58:48] mdholloway: hmm, i'm not an IRCCloud user :( [22:00:12] dbrant: that shouldn't matter, it just notifies me anytime i'm mentioned by name in a channel i'm in; it's just probably not the intended behavior to continue sending notifications to a signed-out user [22:01:00] dbrant: guess i have to force-stop it for it to stay good and dead