[09:17:12] hullo y'all [09:59:15] o/ [10:13:46] ^^ professional -- been doing this for years [10:15:07] morning! [10:23:39] o/ [10:27:23] hey guys, what's the channel for being online when doing swat deploys? [10:28:54] bmansurov: i would say #wikimedia-ops [10:29:03] ok thanks [10:30:58] bmansurov: are you swatting the quicksurveys patch [10:30:59] ? [10:31:08] yes [10:36:58] 👍 [10:52:24] neato [10:56:33] bmansurov: #wikimedia-operations [10:56:48] thanks! [10:57:17] bmansurov: having the fatal monitor open in some window is also a good idea https://logstash.wikimedia.org/#/dashboard/elasticsearch/fatalmonitor [10:57:25] shows up fatals / exception on the backend [10:57:33] (login with your labs account) [10:58:06] cool, thanks! [11:43:55] headed out to father's group [14:55:51] joakino: does reading web have a wiki? [14:57:42] What do you mean bgerstle [14:57:47] For docs? [14:57:51] For testing? [14:57:53] docs, team info [14:58:01] but also product specs [14:58:08] Yea [14:58:10] i'm writing an email now to start an informal convo about how people track specs [14:58:20] Let me find links [14:58:25] thanks [14:58:35] i tried searching office.wikimedia & wikimediafoundation.org to no avail [14:58:53] the officewiki's "Engineering" page is blank :-( [14:59:09] bgerstle: this is the entry point https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web [14:59:46] If you need anything more concrete ping me and I can help you dig it up (if it exists) [15:00:23] k [15:01:02] joakino: of course you link me to the mobile page ;-P [15:02:56] joakino: ah ha! https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Features [15:03:51] bgerstle: i was on my phone :p [15:04:05] not sure how maintained is that table [15:04:35] the source of that page... [15:04:38] inline styles, inline styles everywhere [15:07:51] haha [15:08:00] bgerstle: the magic of templates [15:09:00] looks like that page got a lot of attention in may [15:14:21] just added a bunch of (existing) iOS features [15:14:27] i didn't think we were _that_ behind parity [15:14:39] we're also the widest column now 😎 [15:15:12] joakino: still, that's a list of features, but there's no apparent link to the specs for those features [15:20:23] yep [15:20:27] i don't think that exists [15:27:44] * phuedx has just removed the "Mobile web alpha" column from that page as it doesn't exist [15:28:12] bgerstle, joakino: afaik there are only specs for a few of those cells [15:28:20] in the form of browser tests? [16:15:55] bgerstle: pick a form [16:35:15] bearND: hello! do you plan to update https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/251974/ for this afternoon's deployment window? [16:37:00] mdholloway: i tried yesterday but ran into issues. It's probably easier to do after the dependent patches are merged. [16:38:27] bearND: ok, i'll look at those now [16:38:53] hey, hi [16:44:40] mdholloway: let's check with mobrovac about the timing of merging on the services channel [16:44:57] bearND: ok [16:45:55] bearND: i'll leave everything +1 for now assuming no problems but will be happy to bump to +2 later if you wanna get 'em merged for deployment [16:53:06] mdholloway: thanks [17:05:20] joakino: can you make story prioritization meeting? [17:05:40] also nzr ^ [17:06:05] oops [17:06:08] coming kristenlans [17:19:59] dbrant JoshM dr0ptp4kt stuck on a bart train at 12th Street Oakland, talk of a thirty min delay, just a heads up if I'm not at stand up :-/ [17:21:15] mbinder: thx. you got hangouts for phone? it works (i turn off my video, and hit the power button to save data and battery) except for i think roughly from 1 minute before embarcadero and approximately until you're at montgomery station. [17:21:22] (on vz) [17:22:58] dr0ptp4kt: truly, technology has made life easier [17:23:12] mbinder: "or HAS IT?" ;) [17:24:57] * mbinder investigates [17:25:13] dr0ptp4kt yes, yes it has [17:47:16] phuedx: do you see me in hangout? [17:47:30] nope [17:58:35] mbinder: JoshM i will be late for ios standup, don't wait for me [17:59:01] thnks for the heads up dr0ptp4kt [18:04:31] getting the kids to bed [18:16:26] dbrant: just you left :) [19:06:53] hi reading team... [19:07:07] hello thedj... [19:07:14] i was looking at RelatedArticles, (because of announcement) and noticed the dependency on CustomData... [19:07:24] thedj: that's been dropped [19:07:34] ah ok.. [19:07:38] for setExtensionData ? [19:07:43] yes [19:07:52] pfew. i already wondered [19:08:04] would someone please update the mw.org pages a bit then ? [19:08:39] thedj: our collective bad [19:08:55] both related articles and CustomData look quite dated atm. but the first is linked from the anouncment, so.... [19:11:49] phuedx: also, it might be good to update the experiment page with where the "related articles" are coming from... [19:14:23] and there is a comment about citation popups on mobile: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Citation_needed [19:14:31] which apparently are ^{popups ? :)
[19:35:10] dr0ptp4kt: I'm seeing the office on the youtube stream, rather than Joaquin.
[19:35:29] dr0ptp4kt: It's switched now.
[19:35:39] thedj: /me reads the link, ta
[19:36:04] thedj: sec and i'll create a blocking task to "DOCUMENT ALL THE THINGS" (i'm about to head out for the night)
[19:48:54] awesome dbrant!!!!
[19:49:08] kaity_: ty!
[19:49:58] dbrant: article structured into paragraphs would be really powerful. also happy to see a map tile!
[20:05:13] Well, this goes specially for the Android guys
[20:05:53] I finally presented my end-of-degree project (or whatever is called in english), so now I'm officially an engineer. Time to look for a real job :)
[20:06:30] It's been a pleasure working with you, I couldn't do much but I'm glad I helped a bit
[20:07:21] I will try contributing once in a while but I can't promise anything from now on :)
[22:00:33] dbrant: the tsg results look good to me
[22:00:51] niedzielski: then i'll begin Production rollout!
[22:02:07] dbrant: i'm not crazy about the getLeadImageUrl NPE but i suspect we won't notice the new crashes for the number fixed around WebView debugging and NavigationView
[22:04:10] niedzielski: yeah, that one kind of sucks, since it looks preventable. We'll surely fix it soon enough.
[22:04:22] niedzielski: just tell the users not to rotate their device. ;)
[22:19:40] i've noticed something odd in a test we were running, we did interwiki searches based on language detection of the query and returned results to some other wiki. I noticed in the webrequest logs that we ended up forwarding people from sites like frr.m.wikipedia.org to ar.wikipedia.org. Any idea what we might be doing wrong that's losing the mobile domain. Or more generally how to appropriatly detect and generate those?
[22:58:01] ebernhardson: you may want to pose an example (remove identifying info) on mobile-l. maybe tomorrow someone can take a look
[23:11:42] yurik: Are you still involved in WP Zero?
[23:11:48] And do you have access to OTRS?
[23:11:57] Reedy, yes, no
[23:12:09] "Etisalat Nigeria is working on an initiative aimed at empowering young professionals with mobile services."
[23:12:09] at least i never looked at otrs
[23:12:20] If you don't know you have access, you probably don't
[23:12:23] Who should I point them at?
[23:12:27] Reedy, send it to dfoy i think
[23:13:56] thanks
[23:34:00] spagewmf: ok if i drag https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107804 to "Current Quarter" as something of a quarterly goal for #reading-admin (granted, it's not on the mediawiki.org goals page, but a number of the others in that column aren't either, by design)? or would "doing" be better? or something else?
[23:36:51] dr0ptp4kt: sure. T107804 is mostly done, I have some review feedback I need to incorporate in that page. (On a daily basis I'm improving dozens more wiki pages, but it's not planned.)
[23:37:11] s/daily/weekly/ :-)
[23:37:55] spagewmf: thx.dragged
[23:38:09] dr0ptp4kt: e.g. I just rewrote Extension:Graph#Internals section, last week I redid parts of Skinning
[23:40:07] yeah, i caught some hint of the latter (in addition to / related to isarra's work, right?)
[23:41:28] dr0ptp4kt: yes. I consider that stuff "chipping away at our docs" while my bigger goal is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/web-apis-hub/ , and also JonKatz asked me to work on regular "new Reading features" e-mail. I'll create a task for the latter.
[23:53:01] thanks, spagewmf (email or wiki...seems like you're pretty good at this wiki thing :))}