[01:00:44] o/ [09:01:56] hola [10:25:36] morning! [10:25:38] hi phuedx [10:25:44] hey joakino [10:26:26] how're you? [11:10:41] is there a tool for writing templates? I can't imagine how someone is supposed to change https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Bar_chart/sandbox&action=edit [12:50:37] bmansuro_: haha, that's template syntax for you :) [12:51:00] and a good one too ;) [12:51:17] this one i actually still find rather readable.. [12:51:25] not too many nested if blocks [12:51:34] oh my [12:52:02] ideally you use lua for such a template now though... [12:52:14] i see [15:57:18] gonna take a short break [16:15:03] * FlorianSW says "Hello" into the round [16:20:44] backsies [17:04:36] alright -- dinner time [17:55:44] bgerstle mhurd_afk coreyfloyd: ios alpha is looking very nice! :) [18:05:23] bmansurov: i'll be there shortly [18:05:29] ok [18:12:09] thanks niedzielski ! [18:46:46] jdlrobson: hi! [18:52:42] hey codezee [18:52:47] kristenlans: no meeting room for today? [18:52:56] niedzielski: mhurd coreyfloyd TIL: TWN syncs are _not_ automated [18:53:18] jdlrobson: ah crap [18:53:30] jdlrobson: actually there are literally no meeting rooms at that time :-/ [18:54:39] bgerstle: :) [18:55:20] niedzielski: perhaps i could implore you to run a sync for us? ;-) [18:55:57] technically, all we need is a (Linux, I think) box w/ PHP [18:56:11] oh and push access to our repo [18:57:19] jdlrobson: JonKatz is going to try to find a mini room. FIND HIM! [18:57:29] bgerstle: i can give it a shot. i've only done the android project so far so might be a little bumpy the first time [18:58:00] kristenlans I mean a 1 room booth..easier than staring over each others shoulders maybe [18:58:25] niedzielski: we can schedule a time to pair on it maybe, don't need to futz w/ it now [18:58:33] 1 room = 1 person ^ [18:59:10] bgerstle: sure i was just going to see if it worked pretty much like android or not first [18:59:35] niedzielski: sure, if you get reasonable looking changes after running it, give me a holler [19:00:17] kristenlans: did he find one? I can't see him.. [19:00:36] JonKatz: i dont have my headphones with me [19:00:43] jdlrobson: I think it's every man fro himself :-| [19:01:40] jdlrobson, i have one of those mini rooms on 6 if you want to join [19:58:26] dr0ptp4kt_ jdlrobson see you in a minute, heading downstairs [19:58:37] k JonKatz [20:37:29] niedzielski: in a planning meeting now, can we sync up afterwards (in about an hour?) to sort out the localizations stuff? [20:38:15] bgerstle: sure. i made an update to the qqq script and i was able to get a little output (see pr) but it's not quite reading the keys right for somea reason [20:50:57] dbrant: niedzielski: hey, do you guys have a few minutes to chat about the wiktionary popup? or should i schedule a quick meeting for after the engineering leads sync? [20:51:18] i'm available now and later [20:51:20] mdholloway: i have time [20:51:37] dbrant: niedzielski: cool! batcave? [20:51:45] mdholloway: omw [20:51:55] phuedx: any reason why Cards is not deployed to beta labs? [21:39:07] niedzielski: have a few minutes? [21:39:21] bgerstle: sure. batcave? [21:39:24] yeah [21:39:58] jdlrobson: Hi :) You're back? Hope you had a great time! :) Sorry about my comments here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116676 but (for a person, like me, who isn't involved in the development of RelatedArticles) it's a bit intransparent, I think :/ [21:45:45] niedzielski: hey stephen would you have a minute for quick hangout? [21:46:06] mhurd: in meeting with your leader :) [21:46:11] niedzielski: lol [22:01:09] hey FlorianSW :) [22:01:39] no need to be sorry about anything. What was a bit non-transparent about it? [22:02:12] bgerstle: i don't appear to have a "Collaborator" badge on your repo. maybe that's why i'm getting a 403? [22:04:02] niedzielski: did you accept the invite? [22:04:04] FlorianSW: in terms of communicating to community about the change, working with moushira on best way to do that :) [22:04:07] jdlrobson: I still don't know, what you want to achieve :P And how :) If you deploy to production (even if it is a beta feature (it is, if I understand it correctly, right)) you should at least publish a user-notice (or how do you plan to update the community about a new beta feature?) [22:04:28] bgerstle: whoops :) [22:07:44] FlorianSW: moushira already posted out about this feature to enwiki - the problem is we have so many avenues of communications it's always unclear how best to notify people (i wish we had a single standard place to do this :() [22:08:08] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Projects/Read_more < FlorianSW good place to start [22:08:13] niedzielski: now i'm even more perplexed, since it can't actually see where the PHP script is grabbing CLI arguments.. [22:08:22] so changing the args shouldn't have made a difference?.. [22:08:23] jdlrobson: Tech news (aka user-notice in phab, e.g.) is always a good idea :P [22:08:38] FlorianSW: so all we have to do is add the user-notice tag [22:08:49] ? if so by all means do that - not too familar with that :-) [22:08:56] bgerstle: i think it might have been working properly but i needed to revert the qqq file to see that (no change = working). [22:08:58] brb [22:09:04] ah [22:09:09] yeah, just needed the latest from master [22:09:25] jdlrobson: can you link the enwiki post in the phab task? Yes, and it the notification, that there will be a new beta feature (it will be a beta feature in the beta feature settings, right?) [22:10:03] bgerstle: right. i was on master but had run and committed the changes from the broken script previously. i had to revert the qqq file back to master [22:10:10] k [22:19:37] FlorianSW, I added the announcements links in a comment on the ticket. [22:20:41] hey FlorianSW im thinking maybe adding a roll out section might be a good idea [22:21:15] jdlrobson you mean onto the mw.org page? [22:21:48] FlorianSW: doing now [22:22:29] https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Reading%2FWeb%2FProjects%2FRead_more&type=revision&diff=1954383&oldid=1916235 < FlorianSW do you think that is sufficient? [22:23:55] jdlrobson: the problem is, that wikipedia folks usually doesn't follow the mw.org pages, so you would need to link these people to this plan :) That's why we've tech news. [22:24:15] let me do it, ok? :) [22:28:10] jdlrobson moushira what's the difference between https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/projects/Read_more and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Projects/Read_more ? :) [22:28:45] and the planned deployment is next week with mediawiki train deployment? [22:29:22] FlorianSW: still trying to work that out :) [22:29:38] ah, ok, so it's deployed "soon" :P [22:29:39] jdlrobson: do you have time today for a quick 5-15min chat to catch you up on how QuickSurveys has gone while you were out? Figure a quick recap could prob help give some context to tasks & emails [22:29:45] FlorianSW: also good catch - i'm not sure what happened with those wiki pages [22:29:58] jhobs: no time today but maybe tomorrow? [22:30:20] jdlrobson: sure thing. Rough estimate of when looks back (morning, afternoon)? [22:30:24] looks best* [22:30:37] FlorianSW: looks like moushira created the latter - not sure what her intentions were but it's not linked to from https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Projects [22:31:19] FlorianSW: merging them now [22:32:03] jdlrobson, wait one second to avoid edit conflicts :P [22:34:06] jdlrobson I updated the roll out plan a bit, ok? [22:34:40] eek i lost my edits lol [22:35:06] jdlrobson: This doesn't look very helpful: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:RelatedArticles :) If I read the config change correctly, the related articles are mostly passive and generated using Cirrus morelike: feature, right? [22:36:34] brb florian more meetings [22:49:33] jdlrobson: bb and good night :) Btw.: I updated https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:RelatedArticles a bit, hope that's fine [23:51:56] jdlrobson: how do you feel about the last comments by Krinkle and myself on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/255796/? It seems like wrapping mw.user.sessionId() is the right thing to do to me