[00:45:03] dr0ptp4kt: fyi no work left in sprint [02:55:33] josephine_l, hello! [02:55:37] Hi Nicolas and niedzielski :) [02:56:40] josephine_l: o/ [02:57:24] Thanks for the feedback, niedzielski. :) I'm working on modifying the code. [02:57:34] But the overall implementation seems to work, right? [02:58:01] josephine_l: erm... i need to try it still :) i had a few minutes earlier for some review but didn't pull it down yet :) [02:58:54] niedzielski, oh, that's all good. Do let me know if there are issues when you try it. [02:59:08] josephine_l: will do [02:59:45] So I guess this week I'll be trying to refine the code for Phase 2, and hopefully push a release if all goes well? [03:02:00] Nicolas, niedzielski (sorry forgot to tag in last sentence, haha) [03:02:42] josephine_l /cc Nicolas: your patch looked pretty close to me for merging the search behaviors. it might be nice to cut a release once things are squared away [03:03:23] don't hesitate to release more often even if things break it is not a big problem :-) [03:03:28] niedzielski, great, thanks. :) I'll try to get the code tidied up ASAP. [03:03:47] even after testing only once. better get feedback early. [03:04:07] Nicolas, okay! I will release soon then. :) [03:05:56] niedzielski, Nicolas - Ummm, actually that's all I needed to ask today, haha. :) I do have to chat with niedzielski a bit about some parts of the feedback but that is probably easier done on GitHub with the code comments. [03:06:22] I tested the released app more last weekend and yesterday, it is really sensitive to uppercase/lowercase, so the next release will help a lot :-) [03:07:09] josephine_l: sounds good [03:07:26] Nicolas, yeah, I hope so. :) The Method A query seems to work quite well for uppercase/lowercase issues from what I've seen [03:08:11] In other news, the Upload To Commons ad should start showing up on StackOverflow soon :-) http://meta.stackoverflow.com/a/315023/226958 [03:09:13] Nicolas, yay! It was at 5 when I voted. Good to see we made it. :) [03:15:56] Nicolas, niedzielski , is there anything else you guys wanted to discuss? [03:16:20] OK for me! [03:16:33] all's well on my end [03:17:17] Sweet. :) I'll ping you on GitHub when I'm done with the modifications niedzielski . [03:17:40] josephine_l: sounds good! :) [03:18:11] Cheers, niedzielski , Nicolas ! [03:18:43] josephine_l: see ya! [09:15:06] morning y'all [10:13:39] morning phuedx [10:15:00] hey joakino [15:53:35] dbrant mdholloway: hello! have we looked at the logging for how regularlly the mw or cache fallback paths have been necessary in beta? if not, it might be worth doing sooner rather than later so we can get a sense for "riding without training wheels" before they're taken off :) [15:54:13] niedzielski: i have not. [18:01:31] hangouts is giving me errors... [18:01:42] joakino: [18:01:43] joakino: [18:01:43] joakino: [18:01:43] joakino: [18:01:43] joakino: [18:01:49] WELP [18:02:03] "video call ended because of authentication issues" [18:03:12] I can't stay in a hangout for more than 5 seconds... [18:04:49] phuedx: if you wouldn't mind doing a dramatic reading, my update is as follows: - More email. - Reviewed Baha's language patches (will re-review new patch today). - Bugs. [18:05:04] Will pick up stuff from dashboard [18:10:24] phuedx: let me know if you didn't see that in time and I'll send an email instead [18:10:35] jhobs: we've seen it [18:10:36] jhobs: all good [18:10:41] cool thanks [18:18:38] guys so do we want to switch back from dev to master simultaneously with my email? [18:19:23] sure [18:20:23] jhobs: thanks for trying to join so many times. [18:21:22] bd808: haha I'm not sure what the problem is. I'm logged into google accounts just fine but it kept saying there was an authentication issue... [18:21:54] if anyone runs out of "real" work, reading and commenting on cards for the next sprint would be useful. Let's see if we can get things specified to the point that we can estimate them all this time! :) [18:22:17] sounds good [18:22:29] jhobs: I've hit that at least twice in the last 7 days or so. google burping somehow [18:23:21] dr0ptp4kt: if you read the above few lines, I'm gonna try to resolve the issue, but if I'm unable to in the next half hour or so, we might have to move the 1:1 or try blue jeans [18:24:01] phuedx: bmansurov joakino will need to update https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Release_process [18:25:08] jdlrobson: i suppose it will mostly be about how we perceive +2's as the rest is similar to the mediawiki release process [18:25:59] bmansurov: if you want to switch all the default branches to master that would be great [18:26:08] ok [18:26:38] jhobs: maybe try this: 1) use chrome. 2) close all windows, but leave chrome running. 3) command+shift+delete. 4) obliterate from the beginning of time all of the items. 5) quite chrome. 6) start chrome and try again [18:27:38] dr0ptp4kt: will try, thanks! [18:35:26] hey all, techops are resolving the wikimedia.org and subdomains issues... [18:47:43] hey jdlrobson [18:47:49] sorry i was dickish in standup [18:48:02] i had a cup of coffee in the afternoon and it's screwed me right up [18:59:54] phuedx: didn't take it personally [19:00:09] Just put it down to britishness [19:00:36] Don't have coffee after 4! :) [19:00:37] ;) [19:00:41] That's my rule [19:10:13] phuedx: sorry abut the relatedarticles task spam [19:10:27] joakino: np, thanks for helping the sign off [19:10:55] phuedx: im going to merge your patch since it is fine and that particular tweak is signed off [19:11:06] ta [19:11:18] the tweaks that nirzar requires are relatedarticles-related [19:11:23] they'll need to be done in ra [19:14:32] 👍 [19:19:04] bmansurov_brb: jhobs: jdlrobson: there's some stuff to do on the related articles design to get it perfect 💃, it's been moved to TODO, feel free to grab cc/ phuedx [19:19:25] i'm reluctant to add a border-left to the ra area [19:19:33] also if you can add screenshots for Nirzar's signoff that'd be great [19:19:40] phuedx: why? [19:19:50] because the #footer element doesn't have a border left [19:19:59] so if the ra module isn't loaded [19:20:15] then we'd drop the #footer style too [19:20:22] ->>>>> INCONSISTENT [19:21:39] phuedx: maybe the footer should have a border left from now on, instead of being a RA thing [19:22:04] but yeah, inconsistency = 💩 [19:22:48] changes to vector too! [19:25:13] alrigh [19:25:19] there're three todos on the task [19:25:22] nirzar seems happy [19:25:24] OUT [19:25:29] later dudes [19:25:31] (i'll be idling) [19:25:32] me too [19:25:36] byes [19:25:45] cya [19:30:55] so for the related articles change we just need to do a release okayed by nirzar? [19:31:44] yes [19:42:03] hey dbrant is there any phab task started for feed or improved main page on android? [19:44:04] kaity_: not officially, yet. There are a couple tasks that are tangential to this, including https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109167 and https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89362 [19:44:58] dbrant: thanks! [19:57:35] nzr_: ping [19:57:41] jdlrobson: sup [19:57:48] so we need you to sign off the related articles changes [19:57:53] what do you need from us to do that? [19:58:02] do you need bmansurov or i to stick it on a staging environment? [20:01:15] ^ nzr_ [20:01:20] bmansurov: so what needs to happen for user profile work ? [20:01:30] we just need an okay from phuedx ? [20:01:40] jdlrobson: i think some minor css work left [20:01:56] are you on that bmansurov ? task currently assigned to you [20:02:00] jdlrobson: there is a summary of todos on design changes for related articles. i can sign off on it once those are done. [20:02:03] i can take a look a little later once I'm done signing off on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123696 [20:02:27] jdlrobson: sorry, i messed up [20:02:30] nzr_: so joaquin's comment https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122030#1966792 ? [20:02:39] jdlrobson: i was thinking related articles [20:02:55] np bmansurov thx - just glad you're keeping busy :) [20:02:55] jdlrobson: yes. that comment [20:02:56] jdlrobson: user profile work is ready for review by another developerr and nirzar [20:02:58] nzr_: got it okay [20:03:07] jdlrobson: do i need to do anything on user profile work? unfortunately i cant do the +1 since i dont have the vagrant up and its getting complicated [20:03:23] nzr_: i can put it up on a staging instance after lunchtime [20:03:29] will you be on irc then? i can ping you when it happens and you can test [20:04:57] jdlrobson: related articles? yes i can [20:05:03] jdlrobson: i can test [20:05:06] nzr_: we can do both [20:05:17] im gonna grab lunch now though before my next meetings [20:05:18] jdlrobson: works for me [20:06:01] jdlrobson: umm.. okay looks i am in meeting till 3:30 after lunch [20:06:19] am in meetings till 3pm so that works nicely [20:06:26] jdlrobson: great [20:10:02] nzr_: sent meeting [20:17:52] jdlrobson: can you review https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/266573/ ? looks like dev didn't get merged into master [20:17:52] bmansurov: i'll have to look what's being added [20:17:52] can you do one last release for old times sake so i can read the release notes? :) [20:17:52] nothing, just merged dev into master [20:17:59] ok [20:18:19] i'll take a look after 3pm though... really must eat :) [20:18:47] np [20:58:34] hey niedzielski Do you want to talk about a task you created for main page? https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109167 [20:58:34] kaity_: sure! [20:59:03] kaity_: my main gripe is that i want a button to get back to my current open tab but if i tap "today" it overwrites that tab with the main page. [20:59:57] niedzielski: oh ok so if youre browsing an article, then go to nearby, you cant get back to your tab? [21:00:01] kaity_: it also seems a little odd to call it "today". i think it's supposed to evoke "today's feature content" but i somehow feel "home" or something like that is more intuitive [21:00:21] kaity_: you can but you either have to hit back or hit today and then back [21:00:53] niedzielski: so you don't use native back button that much? [21:02:12] kaity_: i do but warily. some apps don't behave as expected when pressing the back button [21:02:32] niedzielski: do you know any examples? [21:02:34] kaity_: i think using the back button for browser apps (like ours) is inherently complicated [21:03:25] kaity_: sure. if you download the pebble app store and do a search, then go a few pages into the search results and hit back, it'll actually go all the way back to the main page, not the previous search results [21:03:30] niedzielski: hmm looking at apps like NY times [21:04:08] kaity_: in my opinion, pressing back is scary on android because it might close something you didn't intend [21:05:18] niedzielski: "apps for pebble"? [21:05:29] niedzielski: I just bought a pebble time watch :) [21:06:38] kaity_: nice! [21:06:45] kaity_: i think this is the one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.getpebble.android.basalt [21:07:20] kaity_: i've definitely seen bad behavior in other apps i just don't have any other examples at the moment [21:07:37] niedzielski: thats fine this is good to think about [21:08:35] niedzielski: I really like the native back button, I kinda think it makes android nicer than ios :) but I didn't know that others are wary to use it [21:11:12] kaity_: i use it but prefer a close button / back arrow / menu allow for the same functionality. and not all phones have equal back buttons. the amazon fire phone has a swipe upwards gesture instead of a back button. especially, in our app, i think the menu design advertises a "browser", nearby, settings, etc and tapping "browser" has the unexpecte [21:11:12] d effect of also changing your last viewed tab [21:12:41] niedzielski: tapping "browser"? [21:12:59] kaity_: sorry, "today" [21:13:06] niedzielski: you're saying tapping today is like tapping browser? [21:13:09] oh ok yea [21:14:10] niedzielski: I think a quick fix could be to open a new tab with today/main page? [21:14:18] kaity_: yeah, or it should be [21:14:43] kaity_: that would be easy to do but i think i would still be pretty unsatisfying. i have to hit the back button to discard the newly opened tab [21:14:47] niedzielski: In the future today should be replaced with an explore feed [21:15:57] niedzielski: in iOS the first card in the feed is always "Continue reading [last article you had open]" [21:16:16] kaity_: that would definitely be an improvement [21:16:49] niedzielski: yea i dont think we should make the feed act as another page in the browser [21:17:19] kaity_: totally agree. i really like the feed concept and think it feels very native [21:17:31] really looking forward to it [21:21:31] niedzielski: another alternative in meantime could be adding a menu item "Now reading" tho thats also a bit weird [21:22:16] kaity_: yeah, that does sound a little off. maybe we should punt on this until we get the aggregation feed? [21:22:47] niedzielski: I agree. You raise a good point but I think most users will resort to native back button [22:23:11] niedzielski: do you ever have issues with native tabs? like in chrome for example [22:25:02] kaity_: i don't always find them intuitive but i think it's a tricky problem. they don't have _as much_ of a home concept. the new chrome system tabs are a lot nicer [23:31:57] jdlrobson: hey