[05:29:11] yo [05:29:17] * phuedx can't sleep [05:29:23] this has been happening a lot recently [05:35:39] phuedx: hello. i'm going to, coincidentally, try to wind down for a good 30-60 minutes and hopefully not wake up reciting phabricator tickets [05:35:50] phuedx: good morning and good night [05:35:55] phuedx: catch you tomorrow [05:35:58] later [05:36:18] reading printed paper helps [05:36:25] 'night/'morning [09:21:21] jdlrobson: two things [09:21:50] 1: apparently there are people who use a desktop browser at a size below 768px.... [09:23:49] 2: tobi using words like: "we're building a more thoughtful and collaborative culture inside the reading team" [09:24:54] thedj: it'd be good to have context for the first bullet point [09:25:12] i'm going to ignore the second [09:25:57] i was playing with centering infoboxes and thumbs on the desktop site on narrow screens [09:26:25] it was on for like half an hour and then reverted :) [09:26:57] woah [09:27:02] 30 minutes!!! [09:28:26] so there is someone with a 1024x768 screen, running his browser in 125% mode.. [09:29:00] which i guess with window borders and scrollbars just about puts you over the 768px edge [09:29:38] but that also means you think it is 'normal' that lede's next to infoboxes are 3-7 words wide ! [09:30:58] can u imagine always reading paragrapsh of just a few words wide like that.. it's.. [09:31:27] phuedx: also it seems that last december 7,5% of the world still used a 1024x768 screen to browse the web. :) [09:32:11] ^ data plz [09:32:25] i'll send it to our designer [09:32:26] ! [09:32:40] http://gs.statcounter.com/#desktop-resolution-ww-monthly-201512-201512-bar [09:33:53] ta [09:35:05] phones started having better screens than that in late 2010, early 2011 :D [10:11:57] thedj: phuedx: I have a 1440*900 something screen but my browser windows are typically 900 x 500 [10:12:05] I rarely browse full screen [10:12:59] so Flow for example is not ideal to me since the top half of the page is merely headers stuff :D [10:16:02] that's not just flow than, also almost every edit page on en.wp :) [10:41:04] hmm, /me thinking about tables.. one of the problems here is that basically most just don't work at viewport scale of mobile.. so what if we reparent 'big' tables into a iframe with a a desktop viewport, so you can just zoom around etc at desktop sizing inside the mobile view... [11:44:57] jdlrobson: Hi [12:11:57] out for lunch [12:13:45] ok [12:13:48] launch time :) [12:33:47] * hashar launch food [16:56:18] going to try and get the kids to bed early tonight [16:56:34] so i'll be around after standup (watching the release go out, i guess?) [16:58:46] phuedx: Yo [17:01:44] d3r1ck: just heading out [17:01:49] i'll be back in an hour [17:04:03] phuedx: Ok, nice time [19:03:04] Good news everyone: starting with next week's train deployment, the completion suggester works with generators. :-) [19:03:08] I'm writing an email to mobile-l. [19:03:43] Deskana: \o/ [19:04:24] It's still a beta-level feature, though. I wouldn't recommend switching over at this stage. We're still crossing our i's and dotting our t's. :-) [19:04:45] But it would, say, let you run tests or try it out on all users in the beta channel, which would be totally fine. [19:06:03] jhobs: hey, got a minute for a Zero question? [19:07:06] mdholloway having internet issues but if you can describe over text or I can connect via phone, sure [19:09:13] jhobs: oh, yeah, saw that, sorry to hear that! i won't send you the github link i was planning to, then. but do you know why we require showImages=true in ApiZeroBanner in order to send back zero message info? [19:10:24] (cc dr0ptp4kt ^) [19:11:30] mdholloway: I actually don't as I'm not near as familiar with the backend. If I had to guess, it might have something to do with the fact that the banner is rendered as an image on non-javascript devices. Yurik would know much more than me on that [19:11:50] * yurik reads [19:12:11] mdholloway: you're asking with respect to web browsers as a general curiosity, right? for the app, you're just using the zeroconfig api.php endpoint, right? [19:12:34] i gotta get to a meeting in 7.5 minutes [19:12:45] sorry if i go radio silent :) [19:12:58] i'm asking because it causes this request to come up empty unexpectedly: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=zeroconfig&type=message&agent=test&X-CS=520-18 [19:13:16] (i think unexpectedly, anyway) [19:14:32] * yurik tries to remember what was the whole deal with showImages [19:16:34] i figured it was along the lines jhobs mentioned about the banner being rendered as an image in some cases but it seems like the logic might need to be reworked a bit to properly handle the app use case [19:17:09] niedzielski: what do you think of a beta release today? I don't think there's any way of fixing those single-user crashes. [19:18:00] dbrant: sounds good. i'll get started momentarily [19:19:54] unless the showImages setting actually does apply to the apps, but my guess is that's unlikely. anyway, off to the same meeting adam mentioned a minute ago... [19:24:11] mdholloway, i suspect this is obsolete something, and i will email dan about it to check on the status [19:24:36] cool, sounds good, thank you! [19:24:40] yurik: ^ [21:11:20] dbrant: release notes are cooking in the usual place. everything looked pretty good [21:11:34] niedzielski: cool! will look [21:45:39] dbrant: nice, picking them up now :)