[00:05:01] <mbinder>	 dbrant|afk: let's talk about moving items between sprints, before you do it for 76 --> 77
[00:11:38] <dr0ptp4kt>	 bmansurov: i think jdlrobson was going to adapt and run his script. but if you guys work it out so that you script the stuff instead, that's cool. hey, could you note in the task which set has the pseudorandom distribution for whoever does the scripting? i think that's query_result - bucket 1.csv but wanted to be sure!
[00:12:29] <bmansurov>	 dr0ptp4kt: ok.
[00:18:58] <jdlrobson>	 dr0ptp4kt: i'm on it
[00:35:59] <nzr>	 thedj: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Web/Projects/Improve_in-article_language_switching_on_mobile_web
[00:36:25] <nzr>	 thedj: the other two options are there
[00:42:14] <dr0ptp4kt>	 jdlrobson: thx
[02:00:03] <niedzielski>	 o/ josephine_l
[02:00:27] <josephine_l>	 Hi niedzielski! I need to afk for 10 min, so sorry. :( Will be back ASAP
[02:01:04] <niedzielski>	 josephine_l: that's cool :) take your time
[02:11:36] <josephine_l>	 niedzielski, I'm back, sorry bout that. :)
[02:11:53] <niedzielski>	 josephine_l: np :)
[02:12:46] <josephine_l>	 niedzielski, Niharika suggested that I should update the mediawiki.org app documentation
[02:13:00] <josephine_l>	 The most pertinent one that I found is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps/Commons
[02:13:40] <josephine_l>	 But I think it's really outdated, heh. Like, it stopped being updated long before I joined
[02:14:29] <niedzielski>	 josephine_l: well, the app used to be maintained by WMF but now it's all in Nicolas' repo
[02:14:58] <josephine_l>	 niedzielski, yep. How do you think we should alter that page to reflect that? Just mention it and redirect to the GitHub repo for the Android app?
[02:15:53] <niedzielski>	 josephine_l: hm, here's the one for the wikipedia app but it's not that great either: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps/Wikipedia
[02:16:26] <niedzielski>	 josephine_l: we've been kinding of keeping readme style documentation up here for the wikipedia app https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps/Team/Wikipedia_Android_app_hacking
[02:17:23] <josephine_l>	 niedzielski, oh, that's nice and simple! Should I remove some of the stuff on the Commons wiki and do something like that? (the first link, I mean)
[02:17:36] <josephine_l>	 I also have no idea what the status of the iOS Commons app is :/
[02:18:29] <josephine_l>	 The dev setup procedure is on the GitHub readme already for the Android Commons app, so I could probably just link to that?
[02:18:29] <niedzielski>	 josephine_l: i think i would update it to at least have the play store and repo links. it looks like this page used to be used for sprint planning but i suspect anything that's wanted is in Phabricator now and may be removed
[02:19:03] <niedzielski>	 josephine_l: that would be good
[02:19:11] <niedzielski>	 josephine_l: i would still keep the ios link in there
[02:19:28] <josephine_l>	 niedzielski, you think it's okay for me to remove all of the Iteration and Backlog stuff then? I think someone spent a lot of effort writing that, heh. Just don't think it's relevant anymore...
[02:20:15] <josephine_l>	 niedzielski, yeah, I'll def keep the iOS link. I think they have a more updated repo somewhere too but I can't recall where...
[02:20:18] <niedzielski>	 josephine_l: yeah, i'm guessing it's so outdated that even if wmf were to pick the app back up we wouldn't use it
[02:20:48] <niedzielski>	 josephine_l: hm, maybe nicolas knows. i haven't done any ios work :)
[02:20:57] <josephine_l>	 niedzielski, cool, thanks. :) It's my first real wiki edit so I'm a bit hesitant, haha. I've only edited my personal pages thus far.
[02:21:36] <niedzielski>	 josephine_l: well, it's all versioned so someone will undo changes if there's a problem for whatever reason
[02:22:04] <josephine_l>	 niedzielski, good to know!
[02:22:46] <josephine_l>	 niedzielski, I'll probably start on that page today, then start on the wrap-up report after that's done. Was there anything else that needs to be done, you think?
[02:23:33] <niedzielski>	 josephine_l: sounds good. nothing that i know of :)
[02:25:56] <josephine_l>	 niedzielski, sweet. I guess I'll hang around for a bit and see if Nicolas shows up, hahah.
[02:27:46] <niedzielski>	 josephine_l: :)
[02:33:56] <josephine_l>	 niedzielski, hmm, some of the parts of that page seem to refer to both the iOS and Android app, like the 'Wikimedia engineering project information' box. What should I do with that one? 
[02:36:15] <niedzielski>	 josephine_l: that box doesn't seem super relevant any more since WMF engineers aren't actively working on the project
[02:36:40] <josephine_l>	 niedzielski, okay, I'll delete that too, thanks. :)
[02:36:44] <niedzielski>	 josephine_l: maybe just trim off the end field
[02:37:01] <niedzielski>	 and group
[02:37:39] <josephine_l>	 niedzielski, the team and lead are not relevant anymore either, right? I could put Nicolas in lead but that doesn't include iOS
[02:39:23] <niedzielski>	 josephine_l: i would put nicolas down. if there's someone maintaining the ios app, we can add that later
[02:39:46] <josephine_l>	 niedzielski, okay, will do.
[03:04:37] <niedzielski>	 josephine_l: i gotta head out. if anything comes up, feel free to shoot me an email :)
[03:04:56] <josephine_l>	 niedzielski, sure, seeya! :)
[08:32:34] <thedj>	 nzr: looks great. I wish we did pitches like these more often :)
[08:36:37] <thedj>	 nzr: i'd add 'current situation' screenshots
[08:42:01] <thedj>	 nzr: and perhaps i'd even go as far as discussing how this is now implemented on desktop, and in the app.
[08:43:11] <thedj>	 Might be coming in the way of casual, monolingual reader [#] (because it pushes start of the article further down the screen??)
[08:44:26] <thedj>	 Note that ios app, switched to naming this element "Read in other languages".
[08:45:11] <thedj>	 I suggest we make a matrix on things like this, to identify what differes between the various platforms, and if we have a good argument to differ.
[08:45:23] <thedj>	 but that's a total aside.
[16:13:32] <bearND>	 thedj: something like https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reading/Features but with highlighting differences in labels, i guess
[16:17:01] <thedj>	 bearND: awesomeness
[16:56:30] <dbrant>	 niedzielski: I will do a little investigating on the effects of using butterknife with fragments.
[16:57:08] <niedzielski>	 dbrant: nice! to be clear though, i've no idea if it'll be effective
[18:26:01] <jhobs>	 coreyfloyd, bgerstle, mhurd_afk: Do any of you happen to be aware of any issues with position:fixed/absolute on iOS 9 Safari?
[18:26:33] <jhobs>	 we've got an odd bug that only reproduces on devices and the simulator, not desktop safari AFAICT
[18:26:40] <bgerstle>	 jhobs: nope, mhurd_afk might
[18:27:08] <jhobs>	 bgerstle: k, i'll prob have to wait until tomorrow to get an answer then; IIRC he's out today?
[18:27:27] <bgerstle>	 he was yesterday, should be back now i think
[18:27:33] <coreyfloyd>	 jhobs: not that I am aware of… 
[18:27:42] <bmansurov>	 bd808: I think you've added me to the task, but I can only see a new notification count, not the task.
[18:27:51] <coreyfloyd>	 jhobs: you can search here: http://openradar.appspot.com/page/1
[18:27:54] <jhobs>	 bd808, bmansurov ditto
[18:27:59] <coreyfloyd>	 for known reported bugs
[18:28:09] <bd808>	 jhobs, bmansurov: k. I'll check the permisisons
[18:28:11] <coreyfloyd>	 publicly reportes
[18:28:13] <coreyfloyd>	 d
[18:28:15] <bmansurov>	 bd808: thanks
[18:28:20] <bgerstle>	 jhobs: seems like we're using it https://github.com/wikimedia/wikipedia-ios/blob/master/www/less/misc.less#L108
[18:29:11] <coreyfloyd>	 JoshM: https://github.com/wikimedia/wikipedia-ios/pull/509
[18:29:13] <bgerstle>	 jhobs: we also have a web evangelist we could try contacting
[18:29:22] <coreyfloyd>	 i got this working for the current mode… 
[18:29:27] <coreyfloyd>	 not browser mode
[18:29:40] <coreyfloyd>	 JoshM: we are not launching with the browser though, correct?
[18:29:45] <JoshM>	 correct
[18:29:45] <jhobs>	 coreyfloyd, bgerstle: thanks for the info. Not seeing it on the bugs list, but I'll keep that in mind for the future. If either of you get bored feel free to ping me and I'll add you to the task
[18:30:00] <jhobs>	 I'm just not super great at debugging using the simulator
[18:30:10] <bd808>	 jhobs, bmansurov: fixed now?
[18:30:23] <jhobs>	 bd808: yes, thanks
[18:30:27] <bmansurov>	 bd808: yes
[18:30:29] <bgerstle>	 jhobs: in case you didn't know, you can hook up safari inspector to simulator
[18:30:54] <jhobs>	 bgerstle: I didn't know! I'll google around for instructions on that, thanks!
[18:31:52] <bgerstle>	 jhobs: assuming you have developer menu already enabled in safari, fire up the simulator, then go to Settings -> Safari -> Advanced and enable web inspector:  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/TS9NuHYi/
[18:32:53] <bgerstle>	 jhobs: then you should see it come up under the "Develop" menu in Safari  https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/dJ5V1oi5/
[18:33:24] <bgerstle>	 jhobs: you can also see my physical device showing up in that menu. same process to enable web inspector on device
[18:34:08] <jhobs>	 bgerstle: oh looks like I've already enabled that before, just didn't know how to link them. Thanks! Real device isn't an option atm because i have no legacy USB cable
[18:34:31] <bgerstle>	 ah
[19:03:51] <bd808>	 bmansurov, jhobs, jdlrobson: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127860
[19:04:07] <bd808>	 this is a blocker for some SessionManager cleanup work
[19:04:32] <bmansurov>	 ok
[19:50:36] <niedzielski>	 mbinder: hello! i was wondering if we should rename the android project from "Wikipedia-Android-App-Backlog" to just "Wikipedia-Android-App". I think it changed with the new phabricator?
[19:52:01] <mbinder>	 hey niedzielski, I changed it to make life easier for the TSG, and have consistency between iOS and Android naming conventions. Sorry I didn't bring that up with the team. Do you feel strongly about keeping it without "backlog"?
[19:52:22] <niedzielski>	 mbinder: no! i'm sure you mentioned it but i've forgotten :) thanks!
[19:52:39] <mbinder>	 👍
[20:28:36] <jhobs>	 JonKatz, like I would dress nicely on purpose... ;)
[21:55:54] <tsg-andy>	 is the IOS build on testflight or on hockeyapp? I don't see 720...
[21:57:03] <niedzielski>	 JoshM bgerstle ^
[21:57:29] <JoshM>	 Testflight
[21:58:18] <tsg-andy>	 JoshM:  i need an invite email from testflight or we will not see it
[21:58:49] <bgerstle>	 tsg-andy: let me look into it
[21:59:42] <tsg-andy>	 bgerstle: Tx. we need to get invited in Testflight to be able to test
[22:02:44] <bgerstle>	 tsg-andy: i've sent you an invite. nicholas should already be a tester
[22:02:54] <bgerstle>	 under his steelk email
[22:06:07] <tsg-andy>	 bgerstle: will check there, tx
[22:28:54] <tsg-andy>	 bgerstle: neither of us has any invitation from the apple store/ testflight - any ideas what could be wrong?
[22:29:50] <bgerstle>	 nicholas should already be a tester
[22:31:22] <bgerstle>	 tsg-andy: you should see something from andy@tsgteam.org
[22:31:53] <bgerstle>	 or sorry, sent to
[22:31:56] <bgerstle>	 from apple/testflight
[22:34:12] <tsg-andy>	 bgerstle: could you try "andy@specialistsguild.org" ?  no invite so far for andy@tsgteam.org
[22:34:18] <bgerstle>	 k
[22:35:33] <bgerstle>	 tsg-andy: invite sent
[22:45:09] <tsg-andy>	 bgerstle: no luck, none of the three emails have received an invite so far. I have no idea what the issue may be. 
[22:46:06] <bgerstle>	 tsg-andy: you checked your spam folder?
[22:47:05] <bgerstle>	 could be TF delay
[22:52:48] <tsg-andy>	 bgerstle: yeah, we are clearly there and all is correct....but no email from Testflight. Hopefully later.  Also, are the new devices from you, like the iphone 6S, all there? Just checking...
[22:53:15] <bgerstle>	 not sure what you mean. where are you seeing these?
[22:55:04] <JoshM>	 mbinder https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127890
[23:01:59] <mbinder>	 JoshM: Actionize iOS Planning is the hangout I'm in