[15:58:02] <Nikerabbit>	 hola
[15:58:10] <Nikerabbit>	 Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'MWException' with message 'Parsing /resources/projects/wikipedia-ios/Wikipedia/Localizations/qqq.lproj/Localizable.strings failed: Unrecognized line format: <<<<<<< 822d428433b3bcba947d8cebd8da712225c0651f' in /srv/mediawiki/tags/2016-02-26_09:36:51/extensions/Translate/ffs/SimpleFFS.php:125
[16:07:53] <niedzielski>	 ^^ I'm looking into this
[19:41:35] <Niharika>	 Hey everyone. I got the TestFlight email for testing the new iOS app, but it went to my Spam folder. Just a heads up. 
[21:44:46] <bgerstle>	 Niharika: thanks for letting us know
[21:44:51] <nzr>	 Niharika: i will let bgerstle know
[21:44:57] <bgerstle>	 nzr: YOU'RE TOO LATE
[21:45:12] <nzr>	 1:44 for both messages
[21:45:18] <bgerstle>	 dr0ptp4kt: jhobs W0 question
[21:45:29] <bgerstle>	 nzr pfft that's only resolution to the MINUTE
[21:45:40] <nzr>	 bgerstle: how can we get the timestamp?
[21:45:56] <bgerstle>	 haha
[21:46:00] <bgerstle>	 already looking..
[21:46:16] <bgerstle>	 nzr: not sure aside from getting the full archive
[21:46:44] <nzr>	 bgerstle: but this was really weird. i came here for something else randomly 
[21:46:53] <bgerstle>	 so did i, but not randomly
[21:46:58] <bgerstle>	 anyway
[21:47:06] <bgerstle>	 dr0ptp4kt: jhobs ping me if you have a sec
[21:47:47] <bgerstle>	 or niedzielski dbrant mhurd do you happen to know an agent that i can hit action=zeroconfig with?
[21:47:55] <bgerstle>	 try to see what a real zero message looks like
[21:47:57] <bgerstle>	 trying*
[21:48:48] <bgerstle>	 and my attempts at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ApiSandbox#action=zeroconfig&format=json&type=message&agent=WikipediaApp%2F5.0.0(565) get back nothing: {}
[21:49:28] <mhurd>	 bgerstle: hmm not sure. is that what the 4.x zero fetcher was using? 
[21:49:40] <bgerstle>	 yeah, afaict
[21:50:06] <mhurd>	 bgerstle: did u see email from adam - maybe give him a quick ring?
[21:50:20] <bgerstle>	 yeah, might do that, but wanted to see if anyone on IRC knew
[21:50:31] <mhurd>	 bgerstle: gotcha. sorry i don't recall :(
[21:51:20] <niedzielski>	 dr0ptp4kt: checking
[21:51:36] <niedzielski>	 dr0ptp4kt: don't you have to use m. domain?
[21:51:40] <mhurd>	 bgerstle: could also schedule hangout w him for first thing tomorrow morning - he's back to work tomorrow and only 1 hr time zone diff from you now that he's in MN
[21:52:07] <mhurd>	 niedzielski: oh good point about m.
[21:52:47] <jhobs>	 bgerstle: what's up?
[21:53:20] <bgerstle>	 jhobs: any hints for testing w0
[21:53:48] <bgerstle>	 jhobs: specifically the API portion
[21:53:54] <jhobs>	 Oof that's a rough one. In browser or API?
[21:53:58] <jhobs>	 Oh ok
[21:54:07] <bgerstle>	 API
[21:54:50] <jhobs>	 I never used the API myself, but TEST is a live mcc-mnc code we've used for testing before
[21:55:02] <jhobs>	 If that doesn't work you can try 250-99
[21:55:18] <niedzielski>	 dr0ptp4kt:  here's an example user agent but i'm getting an empty response. i'm going to try turning on testing for my ip. "WikipediaApp/2.1.131-alpha-2015-11-08%20(Android%204.4.4;%20Phone)"
[21:55:40] <jhobs>	 For API stuff you probably want to talk to yurik or dr0ptp4kt, although Adam's out today
[21:56:01] <jhobs>	 mdholloway may be able to help as well
[21:56:03] <niedzielski>	 dr0ptp4kt:  oh whoops, i meant those previous messages to go to bgerstle :)
[21:56:12] <jhobs>	 ^bgerstle
[21:56:26] <bgerstle>	 thanks, will check in a sec
[21:58:00] <mdholloway>	 bgerstle: as far as i can tell the agent is irrelevant.  i tend to use "neat-app" (following dr0ptp4kt) but on the back end all it's doing is checking that one exists.
[21:58:21] <mdholloway>	 *so it's not irrelevant whether one exists, just what it is, provided that one exists
[21:58:32] <mdholloway>	 and yes, m. is requried
[21:58:35] <mdholloway>	 *required
[21:58:45] <niedzielski>	 wow, that's pretty neat
[22:01:52] <mdholloway>	 bgerstle: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=zeroconfig&type=message&agent=WikipediaApp%2F5.0.0(565)&X-CS=TEST
[22:04:50] <mdholloway>	 bgerstle: looks like you didn't give it an X-CS param so it didn't know which config to get
[22:05:32] <mdholloway>	 (in production this is inferred on the back end by the user's IP)
[22:05:53] <bgerstle>	 oh
[22:06:01] <bgerstle>	 mdholloway: interesting, that wasn't surfaced in the API special page
[22:06:07] <bgerstle>	 and it has to be .m ?!
[22:06:12] <bgerstle>	 lovely
[22:06:15] <mdholloway>	 bgerstle: yeah...
[22:06:16] <bgerstle>	 don't believe we were ever doing that
[22:06:31] <bgerstle>	 (consistently)
[22:06:43] <bgerstle>	 mdholloway: nor do i see an X-CS query param
[22:08:39] <bgerstle>	 lovely
[22:08:45] <bgerstle>	 so we never sent X-CS query params
[22:09:24] <bgerstle>	 i can see where we're retrieving it from the response headers
[22:09:31] <bgerstle>	 but i don't see it used anywhere
[22:10:30] <mdholloway>	 bgerstle: yeah, that is picked up on the back end based on the user's IP if the IP the request is coming from is zero-rated in a carrier config
[22:10:39] <bgerstle>	 oh ok
[22:10:41] <bgerstle>	 so we don't need to send it
[22:10:44] <mdholloway>	 nope
[22:10:51] <bgerstle>	 alright, that's good
[22:14:02] <mdholloway>	 bgerstle_brb: as for the required mobile subdomain use, yeah, the X-CS header (which we were using to detect whether to display zero messages) is only provided by varnish in the response for mobile subdomains.  we learned that the hard way.
[22:14:20] <bgerstle_brb>	 ok
[22:15:02] <niedzielski>	 mdholloway bgerstle_brb: more confirmation for michael's note: when i enable a test config (and wait for it to come on), i do get a configuration for https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=zeroconfig&format=json&type=message&agent=neat-app (no X-CS param)
[22:15:13] <niedzielski>	 {"message":"Free Wikipedia access provided by Digicel","background":"#ef3829","foreground":"#FFFFFF"}
[22:15:14] <mdholloway>	 bgerstle_brb: but, we're now no longer relying on that anyway, but rather two different response headers, X-Carrier and (optionally) X-Carrier-Meta.  
[22:15:47] <mdholloway>	 niedzielski: yeah, i haven't specifically tested it but I suspect if you supply an X-CS param it'll override your IP -- actually, mind trying?
[22:16:12] <bgerstle_brb>	 mdholloway: yeah, i'm just plugging back in some wires we ripped out. not necessarily out to do a lot of boyscout work atm
[22:16:22] <bgerstle_brb>	 after this we can update our w0 to be more compliant
[22:16:31] <niedzielski>	 mdholloway: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=zeroconfig&format=json&type=message&agent=neat-app&X-CS=TEST -> {"message":"Wikipedia zero-rating test on Test Operator","background":"#E31230","foreground":"#551011","partnerInfoUrl":"https://www.google.com"}
[22:16:40] <bgerstle_brb>	 i think i've got everything i need at the moment though, thanks guys!
[22:20:49] <mdholloway>	 bgerstle_brb: no problem. 
[22:21:27] <mdholloway>	 niedzielski: so it looks like an explicit X-CS param does indeed override an X-CS inferred from IP
[22:29:16] <bgerstle_brb>	 k