[08:30:00] <phuedx>	 o/
[08:55:51] <hashar>	 o/
[08:56:02] <hashar>	 not like I am active on the mobile front..
[08:58:47] <phuedx>	 no…
[08:58:55] <phuedx>	 you just support everything we do ^.^
[08:58:57] <phuedx>	 <3
[09:38:05] <hashar>	 my only concern really is mobile apps becoming more and more bloatware
[09:38:19] <hashar>	 barely running on phones that are considered too old :-D
[09:38:32] <hashar>	 one sure thing, the Wikipedia app "near by" is a killer feature
[09:47:57] <phuedx>	 hashar: have you voiced your concerns/praise to the apps teams?
[09:48:06] <phuedx>	 (i'm pretty sure they all get scrollback though…)
[09:54:25] <hashar>	 phuedx: the Wikipedia Android app runs just fine on my old Galaxy Nexus (iirc the first Google phone)
[09:54:49] <hashar>	 phuedx: I had an issue with image rendering at some point, I did send the crash report and apparently it got fixed :-}
[09:55:57] <phuedx>	 (the apps teams are awesome)
[11:02:26] <phuedx>	 alright -- i'll be out for a while
[11:13:01] <joakino>	 bb phuedxo
[11:21:37] <joakino>	 out to walk dog + lunch
[13:29:51] <coreyfloyd>	 brion: hey just sent an email with the issue that I wanted to talk to you about - I know you are traveling - so that may be easier.
[15:02:07] <maxbinder>	 joakino: I'm on whenever you're ready :)
[15:07:00] <niedzielski>	 hashar: hello! we have a new tab bar design in progress that i think will feel a lot more streamlined. btw, we have an upgrade to 4.0 of the Mapbox library coming very soon
[15:07:18] <niedzielski>	 hashar: we do try to support older devices, but it's definitely one of the more challenging aspects of app development and has to be balanced against providing a modern experience for modern devices. it's not just the hardware on old devices that's an issue, it's the OS software that is no longer updated and contains many quirks
[15:08:44] <hashar>	 niedzielski: yeah I fully understand some new features / experiences needs API that are only available in recentish Androids :-}
[15:09:11] <hashar>	 my rant is merely that developers seems to have very powerful full and don't really care about performance on older devices  (not our mobile team, in general)
[15:09:38] <hashar>	 or maybe some apps ends up being super slow because they fallback to some crappy back compatibility layer that does not perform well
[15:10:40] <hashar>	 niedzielski: one sure thing, The wikipedia app works just fine on my Galaxy Nexus ;-}
[15:12:49] <niedzielski>	 hashar: i think most of our performance tuning has been focused around network and memory usage. i don't think we do that much computation in app so in some ways we're at the mercy of the os and the third party libraries we choose
[15:47:32] <joakino>	 yo baby\
[16:09:25] <hashar>	 niedzielski: yeah I would blame the OS for most CPU intensive things ;-)
[16:09:52] <hashar>	 anyway heading back home!
[16:58:58] <bd808>	 dr0ptp4kt: where (if anywhere) in the Q3 deck should I put all the things that we did instead of the things that were supposed to be our goals? (PageImages, Gather, ...)
[16:59:08] <bmansurov>	 phuedx: hi, are you not going to CREDIT (brownbag) which is at 2 today?
[17:01:46] <dr0ptp4kt>	 bd808: just clone the web slide, i'd say
[17:01:54] <dr0ptp4kt>	 bd808: and put it below the table row
[17:02:21] <dr0ptp4kt>	 bmansurov: phuedx jhobs jdlrobson joakino nzr i'll be there shortly, don't wait
[17:02:27] <joakino>	 ok
[17:12:40] <bd808>	 dr0ptp4kt: finally found that slide. thanks
[17:13:16] <dr0ptp4kt>	 bd808: i should have said which number :)
[17:32:43] <phuedx>	 joakino: meeting's starting
[18:21:24] <niedzielski>	 mdholloway bearND: are we still doing prioritization today?
[18:21:57] <bearND>	 not sure
[18:22:33] <mdholloway>	 bearND: niedzielski: we have a growing 'needs triage' column but it might be good to postpone for tomorrow or fri when dbrant is back
[18:22:58] <mdholloway>	 i could do either way
[18:23:31] <bearND>	 mdholloway: niedzielski : then let's postpone
[18:27:50] <niedzielski>	 mdholloway bearND: ok sounds good
[18:30:46] <bearND>	 kaity__: fyi, we're postponing the triage meeting
[18:31:20] <kaity__>	 bearND: ok cool thanks for letting me know
[18:34:50] <mdholloway>	 bearND: niedzielski: kaity__: doesn't look like i can edit the event
[18:35:33] <mdholloway>	 only maxbinder can?  (i could just be bad at google calendar and missing something, too.)
[18:43:41] <bearND>	 i guess so
[19:04:01] <maxbinder>	 bearND: mdholloway niedzielski-afk Can you guys groom without me today? DB is out, too.
[19:04:35] <bearND>	 maxbinder: we're postponing until DB is back but we had not been able to edit the invite
[19:04:36] <mdholloway>	 maxbinder: yeah, we were actually thinking of postponing until later this week.  
[19:04:47] <mdholloway>	 maxbinder: will you be joining us generally or are you busy with web stuff?
[19:10:58] <maxbinder>	 mdholloway: bearND niedzielski-afk I will make it modifiable. Generally, I won't join to groom, unless you'd find it useful that I do. Just wanted to call it out today because I have not update the calendar yet. (Slow to roll out new schedule with all the traveling lately).
[19:11:41] <maxbinder>	 you should be able to move it now
[19:17:35] <mdholloway>	 maxbinder: yep, thanks!
[19:21:04] <mdholloway>	 bearND: should i +2 your services patch fixing html entity encoding (https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/281588/) to deploy today or should we see if mobrovac or gwicke want to have a look?
[19:26:26] <gwicke>	 mdholloway: it looked fine to me the last time I skimmed it
[19:27:10] <Pchelolo>	 mdholloway: just to make sure: html5-entities also does decodeURIComponent?
[19:33:32] <mdholloway>	 Pchelolo: i don't see decodeURIComponent as part of it: https://github.com/mdevils/node-html-entities/blob/master/lib/html5-entities.js
[19:34:15] <Pchelolo>	 mdholloway: I've been making the same thing for restbase (we will move it to RB soon) and got issues with pages like this: http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/api/rest_v1/page/html/User:Pchelolo%2fRedirect_Test
[19:34:35] <Pchelolo>	 where where redirect contains uri-encoded symbols. 
[19:34:58] <Pchelolo>	 could be nice to make sure new code will work for pages like that?
[19:35:00] <mdholloway>	 Pchelolo: i see.  i'll add that page to this patch and run the tests
[19:41:22] <mdholloway>	 Pchelolo: good catch.  this patch fails on your redirect test page
[19:41:59] <Pchelolo>	 mdholloway: we've just discussed this with gwicke, we also need to consider the possibility of section redirects which have #
[19:45:53] <Pchelolo>	 mdholloway: One more thing: we're currently working on moving the redirect handling to RESTBase (https://github.com/wikimedia/restbase/pull/591) 
[19:46:25] <Pchelolo>	 To make mobile service independent of this work-in-progress, could you please add ?redirect=no to your requests to RESTBase?
[19:46:43] <Pchelolo>	 so that our redirecting logic will not interfere with yours. 
[19:46:43] <mdholloway>	 Pchelolo: sure, i'll do that now
[19:47:16] <Pchelolo>	 We will remove it once we stabilise our redirect handling and remove redirect handling from mobile service
[19:47:17] <mdholloway>	 Pchelolo: do you anticipate that will be merged & deployed soon enough to make this redirect-handling patch moot?
[19:47:20] <bearND>	 Pchelolo: gwicke: so, should we put my patch on hold then?
[19:47:52] <Pchelolo>	 mdholloway: actually, better ?redirect=false
[19:48:07] <mdholloway>	 Pchelolo: ok
[19:48:28] <Pchelolo>	 mdholloway: redirecting in RESTBase will not be deployed for some time, so you have plenty of time to add this.
[19:50:35] <mdholloway>	 bearND: since i added a test, i just pushed a new version of the patch to gerrit.  it'll fail the test suite.
[20:08:22] <mdholloway>	 Pchelolo: so just like this https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/281989/1/config.dev.yaml , with a corresponding change in puppet as well for production?
[20:14:05] <Pchelolo>	 mdholloway: I think it would be easier to just add that in code, because it's a temporary thing and config deploy is harder that normal code deploy. But up to you, the changes look good to me
[20:18:30] <mdholloway>	 Pchelolo: yeah, probably better idea to do in code, i'll update
[20:46:04] <bearND>	 mdholloway: Pchelolo : I've added another test and the decodeURIComponent call to it. https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/281588. Not sure why your test fails but my new ones don't. Is it because of using beta labs? I don't see any significant difference in the way the redirect is done
[20:47:01] <bearND>	 http://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/w/index.php?title=User:Pchelolo/Redirect_Test&action=edit vs https://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:BSitzmann_(WMF)/MCS/Test/redirect_test2&action=edit
[20:47:44] <bearND>	 your URI gives me a 404 when running the test
[20:49:14] <mdholloway>	 bearND: I might have written an invalid test, looking
[20:53:17] <bearND>	 mdholloway: i've updated the URI slightly to use mobile-sections instead of html (Parsoid)
[20:54:20] <mdholloway>	 bearND: ok, that's what i was just checking out
[20:57:15] <mdholloway>	 bearND: ok, i got it
[20:57:57] <mdholloway>	 bearND: the /api/rest_v1/ portion of the path for that request also needs to be changed to just /v1/
[20:58:40] <mdholloway>	 bearND: and then the expected title should be 'User:Pchelolo/Redirect_Test %'
[21:00:16] <mdholloway>	 bearND: er, 'Redirect Target %' that is
[21:00:57] <bearND>	 mdholloway: doh about the URI, lol. Yes I noticed the expected redirected title was wrong, but got hung up on the 404. Thanks!
[21:08:20] <bearND>	 mdholloway: Pchelolo : updated the test. It's happy now.
[21:09:02] <Deep6>	 FlorianSW: are you here by chance
[21:09:19] <FlorianSW>	 Deep6: I'm always here :P
[21:09:22] <FlorianSW>	 No, I'm here, what's up?
[21:09:24] <Deep6>	 yayyyyyyy
[21:09:33] <Deep6>	 using your google auth plugin and well....
[21:09:37] <Deep6>	 running into some challenges
[21:09:45] <Deep6>	 wondering if you can assist
[21:09:50] <Deep6>	 sorry if it's rude to track you down here
[21:10:01] <FlorianSW>	 I can try it, if you describe the problem :P
[21:10:13] <Deep6>	 sure may I pm you
[21:10:14] <Deep6>	 ?
[21:11:13] <FlorianSW>	 you can do it here, or in #wikimedia-dev or if you want, private.
[21:11:23] <FlorianSW>	 Deep6: ^