[08:18:16] hullo [08:24:04] jhobs: yt? [08:42:53] hi hi [09:36:14] 'ello folks [09:36:48] apologies phuedx, I've been battling a bit of insomnia lately and expected to pass out after our meetings yesterday but did not [09:37:15] And then I woke up to no internet for about a half-hour [09:38:24] I'm going to go get some breakfast. If you'd still like to pair after that I'd appreciate it :) [09:48:12] jhobs: i've got over an hour [09:48:17] (maybe a little bit longer) [09:49:04] joakino, jhobs: i'm in tracy [11:23:59] hello [11:24:35] I am wondering why the Wikipedia Beta android app now request for permission to get my Identity. No clue what that perm is though [11:28:43] oh 2b41f72bcb237a65c690b92a9b4fbee468d9ac97 [11:28:58] seems to have the Wikipedia credentials to be hold in Android permission system [11:29:05] s/permission/account/ system [11:42:51] back for a bit [15:52:03] hashar: see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps/Android_FAQ#Security_and_Permissions [15:57:30] bearND: handy thank you ! [16:02:55] phuedx: retro [16:57:07] nzr: sprint board is work (not just engineering), if you need cards from the product owner in TODO, then move them to DOING, and then SIGN OFF or review, then use sprint! we want you to be part of the team [16:57:28] but your deliverables for the sprint would be designs or specifications for other tasks that would enter for us in a different sprint [16:58:10] but please if you want to work within the scrum process of the team, we'll totally have you [17:19:58] joakino, nzr: ^ completely agree with all of that. I think to be more explicit too since we normally do design on cards before moving them into a sprint, we could put "[DESIGN]" or something similar in a card's title and remove it when it's ready for engineering work (ideally, during planning of the next sprint) [17:21:00] @jhobs isn't that what columns are for? i was just talking to @jdlrobson and we came to a conclusion of me working on next sprints "needs design" column [17:21:27] so for example - right now the team is working on sprint 71 so i work on sprint 72 [ needs design] column [17:21:37] nzr: that's fine by me as well [17:22:04] I wasn't sure if you wanted a column to yourself or move cards along the board [17:22:17] two sides of the same coin, really [17:30:14] JoshM_: in hangout [17:34:02] maxbinder joining now [18:15:33] niedzielski-afk: mdholloway: bearND: do you know how long Wikimedia has had "top developer" status on Google Play? I just noticed it! [18:15:51] wow, that's news to me [18:16:32] dbrant: i couldn't say! [18:18:19] anyhoo, about the new reading lists interface, it looks like now they're all saved for offline reading on creation and this can only be changed by editing the list after the fact -- is this correct? [18:19:03] mdholloway: yep, that's expected behavior [18:19:13] nzr: you could also create cards specifically for design e.g. "Prepare design assets for T " where the output is to update T". Up to you what works best. [18:19:38] ok, cool. i just got deletion (the last piece) working before rebasing over all the new stuff, let's see if it still works! [18:21:14] ....nnnnnupe. [18:21:46] :.( [18:37:44] jdlrobson: that feels like breaking the process? [18:38:27] depends if you want to track work with engineers or separately. You're still doing work, needing feedback from developers for work and getting work signed off. It's just design work. I think really it's just a case of what works best for you though. [18:47:39] dbrant: no idea but that is super cool [21:00:51] jdlrobson: then there will be a need of relationship between the "design of a task" and engineering of the same task [21:01:07] currently, its the same card that gets reassigned based on what stage the card is in [23:50:46] maxbinder: are you still around? [23:50:52] jdlrobson: yes [23:51:03] maxbinder: do we have an offsite schedule anywhere? I'm trying to work out when is best to take a 30 minute phone call during the activities [23:51:30] jdlrobson: I emailed it out in the thread for activities suggestions that dr0ptp4kt sent out [23:52:00] mhurd reports that it works with Google Calendar as laid out in the email [23:53:59] maxbinder: beautiful. [23:54:13] maxbinder: i thought that thread was just ideas so hadnt read [23:54:44] jdlrobson: good point, should I start a new one with the same message to get attention? [23:54:50] +1 [23:54:53] k