[06:50:20] <phuedx|car>	 jdlrobson, nzr: that's on me (and reviewers!)
[06:50:38] <phuedx|car>	 i removed the isBetaGroup memeber check because i /thought/ that wikidata descriptions had been pushed to stable
[06:52:42] <phuedx>	 there's T135433 and there's T101719
[06:52:43] <stashbot>	 T101719: [EPIC] Push wikidata descriptions to stable. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101719
[06:52:43] <stashbot>	 T135433: Deploy Wikidata descriptions to all mobile web Wikipedias - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135433
[06:52:58] <phuedx>	 i referred to the latter when checking whether i should remove the check
[08:35:40] <joakino>	 wot stashbot
[08:35:42] <joakino>	 that's cool
[08:40:24] <hashar>	  !log everything!
[08:40:57] <hashar>	  !log in #wikimedia-releng ends up at https://tools.wmflabs.org/sal/releng :)
[08:52:01] <joakino>	 :D
[09:35:58] <hashar>	 joakino: stashbot can probably be configured to have !log in here to relay to a "mobile" index with a https://tools.wmflabs.org/sal/mobile-team
[09:36:19] <hashar>	 https://tools.wmflabs.org/sal/mobile  is for  "!log mobile ..." in #wikimedia-labs and that is for the 'mobile' labs project
[09:39:37] * phuedx JUST FOUND A WAYWARD CUPCAKE IN THE KITCHEN
[09:39:41] <phuedx>	 YESSS!
[09:46:15] <joakino>	 haha
[09:46:40] <joakino>	 hashar: i understand the value in operations, what would the value be here? :p
[09:46:50] <joakino>	 seems like nobody would look at it
[09:47:22] <hashar>	 joakino: yeah you probably dont need that :D
[09:47:54] <hashar>	 incentive for a backend job description:  * you will learn about the beauty of stashbot 
[09:48:09] <joakino>	 !log phuedx found a cupcake and is happy
[09:48:09] <stashbot>	 Not expecting to hear !log here
[09:48:10] <joakino>	 haha
[12:07:55] <phuedx>	 joakino: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141087
[12:07:58] <phuedx>	 writing more
[12:38:40] <joakino>	 nice
[13:38:26] <phuedx>	 thcipriani: you received the issue of drift mag yet?
[13:50:00] <thcipriani>	 phuedx: I did, got it a couple weeks ago. Amazing :)
[14:09:33] <phuedx>	 thcipriani: received mine on monday :)
[14:09:36] <phuedx>	 <3 <3 <3
[17:40:38] <maxbinder>	 jhobs: nzr joakino phuedx please email to the friday standup thread when you get a chance
[17:41:18] <phuedx>	 maxbinder: on it
[18:00:54] <jhobs>	 maxbinder: yep, will do, thanks for the reminder
[18:58:48] <dontknow>	 hi! mobile app doesn't connect internet and sometimes connect
[18:59:38] <dontknow>	 it is not reliable
[18:59:46] <dontknow>	 i don't know why
[19:05:31] <mdholloway>	 dontknow: hi there
[19:05:36] <mdholloway>	 dontknow: android app or iOS?
[19:05:43] <dontknow>	 mdholloway, android
[19:05:52] <dontknow>	 5.1.1
[19:06:29] <mdholloway>	 dontknow: is this the stable wikipedia app or the beta?
[19:06:45] <dontknow>	 mdholloway, stable one
[19:07:43] <dontknow>	 mdholloway, are you dev?
[19:07:48] <mdholloway>	 and which version number?  (open the nav drawer, click settings > about the wikipedia app and it'll be at the top)
[19:07:52] <mdholloway>	 dontknow: yes, i am
[19:07:59] <dontknow>	 ok let me check
[19:09:36] <dontknow>	 mdholloway, it says 2.2.147-r-2016-06-06
[19:09:51] <mdholloway>	 dontknow: thank you
[19:10:27] <mdholloway>	 dontknow: i don't know of any other reports of connection problems, but i'm going to explore a little bit on an emulator with that app version and android version
[19:10:41] <mdholloway>	 dontknow: is it always unable to connect or just sometimes?
[19:10:43] <dontknow>	 mdholloway, thanks
[19:11:20] <dontknow>	 mdholloway, it says "cannot connect internet" try it again"
[19:14:00] <dontknow>	 mdholloway, it says "cannot connect internet" try it again" sorry about that. i was already offile
[19:14:03] <dontknow>	 offline
[19:14:15] <dontknow>	 mdholloway, the app uses ssl?
[19:14:28] <mdholloway>	 dontknow: yes, it does
[19:14:51] <mdholloway>	 dontknow: oh, your device was offline but now it works?
[19:15:40] <dontknow>	 mdholloway, no no. "cannot connect internet" try it again" said like that because i am offline
[19:15:48] <mdholloway>	 dontknow: ok
[19:15:51] <dontknow>	 it still unreliable
[19:16:01] <dontknow>	 right now it works
[19:16:09] <dontknow>	 yesterday it wasn't
[19:17:39] <mdholloway>	 dontknow: at what time yesterday did you experience this?
[19:18:29] <mdholloway>	 dontknow: there was a brief server issue yesterday but i wouldn't have expected the app to be impacted. it would be good to know if it did.  
[19:18:37] <mdholloway>	 dontknow: was yesterday the only time you've seen the problem?
[19:19:22] <dontknow>	 mdholloway, i can't tell the exact time but i think it was about 00:00
[19:20:07] <dontknow>	 mdholloway, yesterday it wasn't only time
[19:20:35] <dontknow>	 it shows progress animation but it doesn't load the page
[19:21:55] <dontknow>	 mdholloway, i am started to doubt myself
[19:22:20] <dontknow>	 i am not able to give you reliable information
[19:22:23] <dontknow>	 i am confused
[19:22:47] <mdholloway>	 dontknow: still, if it's sometimes not reliably loading pages, that's good to know
[19:23:01] <mdholloway>	 dontknow: what device are you using?
[19:23:15] <dontknow>	 mdholloway, samsung galaxy j2
[19:25:10] <mdholloway>	 dontknow: sorry, one more question: did you just start using the app, or have you been using the app for a while and problems only started recently?
[19:25:49] <dontknow>	 mdholloway, please stop researching this for now. if it did happen againg i am going to report it to you
[19:26:17] <dontknow>	 if it happens again
[19:26:58] <mdholloway>	 dontknow: ok, please do!  i am not having problems testing now, but different devices, locations, etc. could have different problems
[19:27:38] <dontknow>	 mdholloway, thanks. i am going to report to you certainly
[19:27:40] <Platonides>	 mdholloway: is the app doing ssl pinning?
[19:29:12] <mdholloway>	 Platonides: no, we don't do that at this point.
[19:29:53] <dontknow>	 Platonides, what is that?
[19:30:10] <dontknow>	 oh! i forgot we have wikipedia :p
[19:31:24] <Platonides>	 dontknow: that's a feature that would make the app unable to connect with wikipedia if there was a monitoring device in your internet connection
[19:31:32] <Platonides>	 but mdholloway just noted that it's not used here
[19:31:41] <Platonides>	 in fact, I suppose it would be controversial
[19:32:13] <Platonides>	 probably it should be allowed, just notificating the user and asking him if he wants to continue anyway
[19:34:00] <mdholloway>	 Platonides: dontknow: it's something we should at least consider implementing.  I'll write up a Phabricator ticket.
[19:35:11] <dontknow>	 Platonides, can you give me an example of monitoring device?
[19:35:42] <dontknow>	 like wireshark?
[19:40:20] <Platonides>	 dontknow: no
[19:40:30] <Platonides>	 I mean a [[MITM attack]]
[19:40:38] <dontknow>	 ok. i know that
[19:41:26] <dontknow>	 Platonides, why would they make a mitm for wikipedia? lol
[19:41:46] <Platonides>	 dontknow: they could be monitoring everything going through your connection
[19:41:49] <dontknow>	 to give you wrong information
[19:41:58] <Platonides>	 from wikipedia to your bank
[19:42:15] <dontknow>	 :S
[19:43:55] <Platonides>	 often with evil intentions
[19:44:11] <dontknow>	 i have a bank app. it has crazy permissions
[19:44:11] <Platonides>	 sometimes with the consent of the user
[19:44:35] <Platonides>	 eg. for doing an AV scan of what you receive over SSL
[19:50:17] <dontknow>	 mdholloway, google play doesn't show app license and their privacy policy. i think it is wrong
[19:51:45] <mdholloway>	 dontknow: The privacy policy is linked in the description (you'll have to click "Read more" to expand it)
[19:53:56] <dontknow>	 mdholloway, ok. wiki app has it but others not
[19:55:02] <mdholloway>	 dontknow: i think privacy policies are typically linked under "developer" at the bottom
[19:55:05] <mdholloway>	 not all apps have them
[19:55:24] <mdholloway>	 ours does
[20:55:11] <nzr>	 dbrant: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139194 is this the task where i can put spec and designs for navigation overhaul?
[20:55:34] <nzr>	 mdholloway: bearND ^
[21:04:50] <mdholloway>	 nzr: dbrant: bearND: niedzielski: that one seems a little bit too specific but i don't know of anywhere better
[21:05:43] <niedzielski>	 nzr: hm, yeah that one is more about some tech rearranging i think
[21:08:24] <nzr>	 should i create a new one?
[21:10:46] <mdholloway>	 nzr: sure, i don't think we have an appropriate task out there right now to use
[21:11:16] <nzr>	 cool... just wanted to make sure im not creating duplicates :) 
[21:11:22] <niedzielski>	 nzr:  are you talking about for the epic mvp thing as a whole or for something more specific?
[21:12:09] <niedzielski>	 like, we have this board that is supposed to encompass all of the work to be done by quarter end: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/2097/
[21:12:11] <niedzielski>	 so lots of tasks
[21:12:16] <nzr>	 more specific task
[21:12:32] <nzr>	 where i can upload spec and user story
[21:13:15] <niedzielski>	 nzr: i think all the tasks that we know are about viewable here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/2028/
[21:13:32] <niedzielski>	 nzr: the ones tagged MVP are ones the team is scoping for hte current quarter
[21:13:53] <niedzielski>	 nzr: if there's not an appropriate task there, you might have to make a new one
[21:14:16] <nzr>	 yeah the only appropriate one is the one i shared here 
[21:14:30] <niedzielski>	 note: most of the tasks are offscreen on the right :)
[21:14:42] <nzr>	 yeah i checked
[21:15:37] <niedzielski>	 nzr: as far as i understand it, T139194 is really a tech task just to move the existing code into the new tab layout made in T139192
[21:15:38] <stashbot>	 T139194: Populate bottom tab bar with Fragments of Feed, Nearby, History, and Reading Lists. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139194
[21:15:38] <stashbot>	 T139192: Create a blank Activity with a bottom tab bar. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139192
[21:16:13] <nzr>	 can i use this one > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139192
[21:17:58] <niedzielski>	 nzr: please don't :) that's already in reivew
[21:20:05] <nzr>	 okay i am creating a new one. i need to put the mocks in pholio
[21:20:08] <nzr>	 :|
[21:23:08] <niedzielski>	 nzr: thanks :)