[08:10:19] morning [08:18:42] o/ joakino [08:18:47] good morning y'all [10:15:09] morning! [10:51:42] joakino , phuedx - sorry to bug but you're the only ones awake - we didn't estimate https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146035 yesterday and it's still in needs analysis - do you think that puts us behind schedule [10:51:57] this isn't a dream? [10:52:23] joakino, olliv: 1 maybe a 2 [10:52:43] probably a 1 [10:52:50] it's an audit of the configuration file [10:54:47] phuedx, thank you! if joakino agrees, then I'll put the estimate and throw it into todo [10:55:31] these days, hovercards are all my bad dreams XD [11:08:54] do so olliv [11:09:09] im out till this afternoon [11:11:12] done! [12:11:54] olliv: not-so-pro-tip [12:12:07] if you have irccloud's user avatar thingies enabled [12:12:26] then when copypasting text, highlight and click the button in the chat bar [12:12:57] this is, of course, only relevant if you're annoyed by P like i am ๐Ÿ˜„ [13:42:04] Hola a todos [13:42:26] Alguien sabe espaรฑol por aqui? [13:47:30] Hello to all , there is some way of being able to contact or suggest improvements to the developers of wikipedia ? [15:00:39] bikendi1991 left :( [15:04:13] nzr: i like the dark blue background on the jk moon man image. it looks nice behind the toolbar [15:04:40] jk moon man (tm) [15:06:57] :) [15:07:49] :) thanks! [15:08:05] Can't wait to see it in the app [15:10:52] joakino: yup, i missed them! [15:31:41] bearND: coreyfloyd joakino mdholloway reading eng tech leads sync in 3 mins [15:31:54] dr0ptp4kt: word [15:34:42] tgr|away: would you please update the scrum of scrums etherpad? [15:50:55] olliv: I need to skip today's grooming meeting. You good solo? [15:51:17] maxbinder: sure [15:51:27] olliv: ๐Ÿ‘ [15:51:43] olliv: recommend you tackle Needs Analysis with some devs :) [15:52:16] yup, on it, some for upcoming sprint and then the general column [16:04:37] mdholloway: would you please add info to the sos etherpad? [16:06:18] dr0ptp4kt: done [16:06:26] mdholloway: thx! [16:07:24] phuedx: I have some fundamental issues with the approach to fix the dependency issues in Popups (to be more accurate, with the way the Popups modules are structured to begin with). Comments are on patch. I moved the task to -1, but I'm not sure if it should really stay in Code Review since it is a matter of opinion on approach... thoughts? [16:07:36] ^ cc maxbinder [16:08:45] jhobs: -1 seems fine, at least it gets attention there. I don't think there is a perfect place, but that doesn't matter as long as the right people are talking about it. [16:08:56] cool, thanks [16:24:24] mdholloway: bearND joakino coreyfloyd would one of you please attend scrum of scrums? as usual, sorry if i asked previously and one of you raised your hand and i still somehow forgot [16:24:32] i have a meeting conflict [16:25:59] dr0ptp4kt: bearND joakino coreyfloyd: i can attend [16:26:14] mdholloway: thanks. gold star [16:26:29] mdholloway: what a hero [16:26:43] ๐Ÿ… [16:26:47] \o/ [16:30:39] dbrant: olliv I'm out for standups today, got a big iOS meeting, ping me if you need me for anything :) [16:33:12] thanks, mdholloway [16:49:36] i can't get over this featured article's picture (which i'm seeing again and again). the guy's head looks almost pasted on. i guess this is my life now [16:56:03] maxbinder: is big iOS the next version of iOS? [16:56:15] phuedx: huge [17:01:34] With the good old hit counter and popular pages section having been removed from core can anyone recommend any analytics or simple page access counter extension? [17:02:16] Unfortunately Open Web Analytics (https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Open_Web_Analytics) is not working with current MW 1.27.1 [17:21:29] jhobs: i'm gonna be out in 10 minutes [17:23:07] can i assign you to T146035? [17:23:07] T146035: Popups ResourceLoader modules are not declaring their dependencies properly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146035 [17:23:14] i think you're right [17:23:43] i'm not too keen on the experiment stuff being part of core but, as you say, it'll be removed later [17:24:18] phuedx: yeah that's fine. Would you be fine with SWAT deploying it during European SWAT tomorrow so that way you get a chance to review it before deploy? [17:26:16] as in, I'd write it today and schedule you as the person on-call tomorrow [17:26:58] otherwise, I can do it during SF Morning SWAT tomorrow, but I'd rather get it in sooner rather than later [17:30:14] sure, put me in as call [17:33:11] @jdlrobson any place i can use the branding prototype? [17:33:43] nzr: will be in soon. You can put it up on trending for when you need to run the test [17:34:13] jdlrobson: maybe trending can be ahead of production :) or maybe proto.wikimedia.org [17:34:14] :P [17:43:09] phuedx: wrong bug? [17:43:17] ? [17:43:35] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144734#2656677 < popups no? [17:43:51] I think that comment was meant for https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146035 [17:44:14] hah [17:52:10] Does anyone know a multi file upload extension that works in 1.27.1? [17:56:09] dbrant: i think i might have it. there's that old bug with the background momentarily hopping over the search card but i think it's acceptable. a few patches forthcoming [17:56:38] alright! [18:00:32] Tuxedo: unfortunately not [18:00:56] Tuxedo: you might want to ask on the wikitech-l mailing list [18:10:29] bearND: any luck with the rb/mcs patch testing? [18:24:45] jdlrobson: how are ogvs disabled on mdot [18:24:54] olliv: is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/2236/ the tech debt board you created? [18:25:04] we get a thumbnail in prod but i get a video on staging [18:25:15] where's the thumbnailing behaviour configured [18:37:01] TimedMediaHandler phuedx [18:37:07] it should be anyway [18:37:11] unless there's another one I don't know about [18:37:13] yeah, i figured it was tmh [18:37:20] is there a way to tell wikipedia to always load with desktop interface even when using a smartphone or a tablet ? [18:39:34] mdholloway: no. Do you have a couple of minutes to chat? [18:39:47] bearND: sure, heading to batcave [18:39:56] k [18:40:19] jdlrobson: got it [18:40:47] it's to do with the minimum width of the video required to load the player [19:07:08] matanya: in theory if you click the desktop link at the bottom it should remember [19:07:21] but it's not always reliable due to how our stack is arranged [19:11:20] mdholloway: what was the RB patch again you mentioned earlier? [19:11:49] bearND: https://github.com/wikimedia/restbase/pull/675 [19:12:27] bearND: PS -- I just created a wiki page with the steps we went over: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:MHolloway_(WMF)/Testing_MCS_patches_locally_with_RESTBase_on_OSX /cc dbrant niedzielski [19:13:03] mdholloway: thnaks [19:17:12] mdholloway: thanks! [19:18:29] i'll probably amend the patch for the RB config list after today's deployment window is done [19:18:57] to use a local RB install. Seems much easier than Vagrant [19:24:37] bearND: yeah, going through vagrant doesn't seem any easier to me at all [19:24:45] bearND: probably harder actually [19:27:26] mdholloway: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/310078 needs a manual rebase [19:28:56] bearND: thanks, doing now [19:30:46] interesting: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fragen_zur_Wikipedia#Gegenteil_von_class.3D.22nomobile.22 - two dewiki editors say they're missing a "mobileonly" CSS class that would allow optimizing portals etc. for mobile (cc jdlrobson ) [19:31:27] dbrant: niedzielski bearND mdholloway I thought we might use grooming to talk tags [19:31:48] maxbinder: it's about that time, isn't it. omw! [20:26:41] Hi, for T145697 I will need a newer app build to test with as android-builds.wmflabs.org is providing me with an 09-13 version while the app version is from 09-14 [20:26:41] T145697: [BUG] Link preview should be dismissed when changing pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145697 [20:29:21] nicholas-tsg: hello! sorry, our alpha builds are broken right now. i'll email you a build [20:29:53] thanks I think that may help [20:33:58] nicholas-tsg: ok, a build should arrive in your inbox shortly. thanks! [20:38:28] HaeB: yeh we intentionally don't have one of those. It encourages creating duplicate content which is bad as it bloats the HTML response. [20:38:41] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TemplateStyles is what they need! [20:39:38] If they want one they could introduce a css class to MediaWiki:Common.css but I'd advise against it [20:40:25] jdlrobson: makes sense; how about just leaving that comment (in english) there? [20:50:36] jdlrobson: I just uploaded the change to Sam's patch regarding popups dependencies. If it looks good to you, let me know and I'll sign you up for evening SWAT tonight [21:01:12] jdlrobson: as I have to run now and I take it you haven't had a chance to look at it yet, I'll leave the SWAT scheduling to you. I'll ping on the task too just to be safe [21:01:24] jhobs: did you switch your -1 to a +1 ? [21:01:33] i assume you mean swat Sam's patch as is? [21:01:42] jdlrobson: no, I uploaded a new PS [21:02:10] okay let me take a quick look [21:02:17] did my earlier IRC message not go through? (at 2:50 PDT) [21:03:55] jhobs: tbh i just skim read the last line " I'll leave the SWAT scheduling to you" [21:03:59] but yeh your approach looks good [21:04:17] jdlrobson: ok, just wanted to make sure. Internet has been a bit funky today for me [21:04:26] (that's why it took so long to get the patch up tbh) [21:04:35] ill give it a pass at review now. If i dont find any issues i'll swat and if i do find any issues i'll comment on task and leave you/sam to swat. [21:04:51] ill probably get a coffee first though as im waning :) [21:04:58] jdlrobson: sounds good. See you tomorrow! o/ [21:16:55] * greg-g starts listening to phuedx|zzZ's bandcamp collection: https://bandcamp.com/phuedx (sorry to out you more publicly) [22:39:10] just got an email from amazon that there's a new kindle i guess. fire hd 8