[10:20:32] hi everyone. is the data from the event logging schema MobileWikiAppArticleSuggestions somewhere publically available? [10:48:12] mschwarzer: have you even tried google ? [10:48:26] the eventlogging json schema are on meta.wikimedia.org [10:48:26] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Schema:MobileWikiAppArticleSuggestions [16:08:00] maxbinder: we have a conflict meeting today [16:08:15] maxbinder: I think early grooming was meant to be cancelled [16:16:51] phuedx: if you're around you'd be most welcome at the "goals" meeting. I think it's become something of an impromptu retro. :) [16:27:31] maxbinder: can't join [16:28:08] phuedx: no link or having issues? [16:28:24] maxbinder: are you in tracy? [16:28:29] nope [16:28:50] phuedx: there are issues right now with hangouts [16:28:56] olliv and raynor can't join either [16:32:12] phuedx: raynor olliv can you guys join tracy? [16:32:49] maxbinder: nope [16:33:35] https://talky.io/banana we're here now [16:33:37] phuedx: maxbinder: https://talky.io/banana [16:39:06] maxbinder: https://appear.in/banana [16:42:44] Hi [16:55:10] hi [17:01:35] is something operating the servers? [17:13:56] is there something scheduled for the server today? [17:44:38] bearND, do you know when https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/319099/ is going live? [17:48:51] lbertolotti_: You can look for the next mobileapps deployment window on https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments [17:49:38] and follow along on the #wikimedia-operations channel. There would be a log entry when deployment starts and another one when it finishes [17:50:40] dbrant: did you have some good hints on how to trigger abuse filters on wikidata? [17:50:59] on description edits, of course. [17:55:29] bearND: just use the most obscene swear words you can imagine. (i can provide some!) [17:55:45] bearND: are you testing on a specific (obscure) test entity? [17:56:11] bearND, so it is around 20:00–21:00 UTC ? [17:56:44] dr0ptp4kt: I know the Youtube stream didn't work for the last CREDIT showcase, is it still planned for this one? [17:57:12] dbrant: yes, there's a sandbox item https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q4115189 linked to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikidata/Wikidata_Sandbox. Or check out that item for more links to other Wikis. [17:57:44] lbertolotti_: correct [17:57:53] jhobs: i thought it worked last time? anyway, yes, the youtube stream is anticipated to work. but feel free to join the hangout on air if you prefer - you can leave it if it gets too full. i don't think it'll get too full this time [17:58:17] I may have been thinking of two times ago or something, but ok, thanks [17:58:47] dr0ptp4kt: I mainly ask because I plan to eat during the next one and I can chromecast YouTube to my main room :) [17:59:02] reduce the back strain :) [17:59:03] jhobs: yeah, i've done similar things - it's awesome [19:14:40] nzr: can you reply to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146596#2763902? [20:11:53] bmansurov: certainly [20:16:39] bearND: there's a giant zuul backlog, it might not be worth waiting on my patches to merge before deploying [20:17:19] i need to fix that branch at any case, things seem a little messed up after all the rebasing [20:17:42] oh, and they're coming back failing ci :/ [21:12:28] bearND: I slapped a +1 on this… but didn’t want to approve since i’m a newb: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/317095/6 [21:13:01] coreyfloyd: I saw it. I'll look at it in a bit [21:13:33] bearND, is there a way to verifiy if https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149699 has been deployed? [21:13:36] bearND: cool - np [21:19:59] lbertolotti: It has been deployed. There was a log entry on the #wikimedia-operations channel. An overview of the logged deployments is available at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Server_Admin_Log [21:21:00] lbertolotti: Now what needs to happen to fix the issue for the engineering portal page is to trigger a change to it [21:24:24] bearND, I'm looking at that log but can't find a line referencing that patch [21:25:25] lbertolotti: Another place one could start looking for Mobile Content Service deployments is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/diffusion/GMOD/repository/master/. Look for the most recent commit. In the commit message is a reference to the patch. [21:26:02] lbertolotti: the patch is titled "Stop hiding noprint elements" [21:34:47] bearND, I'm not sure that the patch has been deployed [21:35:06] lbertolotti: i deployed it. [21:35:13] it's live. [21:35:28] lbertolotti: why is that? Have you changed the portal page? [21:35:36] mdholloway, 20:49 mdholloway: deployed mobileapps 0ced96c 20:46 mdholloway: starting mobileapps deployment? [21:35:54] you may need to edit the relevant page and then wait for the change to propagate in the backend. [21:36:14] yep, that's it [21:36:22] lbertolotti: a bit later came "log deployed mobileapps 0ced96c" [21:36:48] I will do some tests and I see what I can find out [21:36:49] nvm you had that in there, too [21:41:53] lbertolotti: I saw you made a change to the page, but that was before the deployment happened. Would you make another change to it? [21:43:48] bearND, yes I will [21:44:12] lbertolotti: Hmm, actually I do see a noprint in the resulting output at https://en.wikipedia.org/api/rest_v1/page/mobile-sections/Portal:Engineering [21:45:14] lbertolotti: It's the one from the {{purgepage}} elemenent but not the "More about engineering" [21:49:40] lbertolotti: On the bright side, I do see a bunch more noprint elements when I run this on my local machine. So, an update should help. I was just surprised to see a noprint element from a page revision before the deployment. [21:50:04] The explanation is that that one is not a

element [21:50:45] look here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149699 [21:51:07] lbertolotti: Thanks for the edit. Now it looks ok, right? [21:51:14] yes [21:51:20] :) [21:52:51] dbrant: lbertolotti : I just noticed another issue on that portal page, and I guess this happens with others as well. There's an extra edit button inside the box, which opens mobile web [21:55:55] It's an interesting case where the link opens edit mode for a different page which gets transcluded [21:57:06] bearND, you mean that's not a design feature [21:57:08] ? [21:57:17] I have always used when I'm afk [22:00:05] lbertolotti: The apps add their own edit (pencil) buttons for each section and have a native edit screen. This extra web link kind of breaks this experience. I guess it is still useable, just a bit inconsistent UX [22:04:39] the edit pencil for portal pages is for editing the portal page code, the edit button is for editing the box contents [22:05:09] I have been using them in a complementary way [22:08:07] lbertolotti: Sounds like you're used to it and it's not an issue for you. [22:09:56] I haven't done much with portal pages yet but I think there is great potential to guide people to interesting content for them [22:13:26] bearND, portal pages have the potential of aggregating content by subjects [22:14:21] people don't usually google them [22:14:39] so it is a matter of making it nice and interesting [22:15:25] so people will come back to it to view something new [22:16:07] that and it works as a guide for the subject [22:17:10] We've got the explore feed in the apps to surface interesting content. I was wondering if there would be a nice way to highlight portal pages in the apps somehow in addition to the explore feed or as cards in the explore feed [22:20:57] well, somewhat related to this [22:21:17] I noticed that articles with pictures [22:21:31] get a picture simbol when you search for an article [22:22:06] say, for ex [22:22:17] if you search for "violin" using the app [22:22:25] you get the page name [22:22:32] the description from wikidata [22:22:50] and a picture of two violins from inside the article [22:23:48] in this case [22:23:58] the algorithm gets the first picture from the page [22:24:36] portal pages get no simbol on other hand [22:25:40] choosing good pictures could improve user experience [22:26:09] I think there should be a parameter for predefining what picture from the article will be displayed on the app [22:26:32] and for portal pages we could have a special picture for representing a portal page [22:28:40] bearND, visual identification is as important as written text [22:33:13] bearND, actually in wikipedia every portal pretty much has an identification symbol [22:33:29] the engineering portal is being represented by an 2 engines [22:33:48] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Technology#/media/File:Nuvola_apps_kcmsystem.svg