[13:40:06] are the QuickSurvey extension's translations managed by translatewiki? [13:40:14] olliv, ^ [13:41:29] olliv: just for context. We just realized that "Visit survey" and "No thanks" in QS may not be translated to the 13 languages we're running the surveys in. Can you let us know how we should proceed? (the surveys are on and some people may simply not know what to do with the widget) [13:42:12] lzia: don't know off the top of my head (we haven't worked with quicksurveys in a minute) - let me check [13:42:22] thanks, olliv [13:43:49] I think it is [13:44:00] there's commits in the history from it [13:45:35] joakino: ^ [13:46:34] lzia: i believe the chrome things are in translatewiki as normal [13:46:49] https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?search=quicksurveys&title=Special:Search&go=Go&searchToken=44vsqsqx8xzwwiepl30ic7v11 [13:47:32] got it, joakino. schana: is it clear for you how we should get the translations to the buttons? [13:47:37] https://translatewiki.net/wiki/MediaWiki:Ext-quicksurveys-external-survey-no-button/en for example [13:48:05] joakino: schana: how can we check which languages are okay? [13:48:31] i'm not sure let me have a look [13:48:48] thanks, joakino [13:53:18] lzia: i can't seem to figure it out :( siebrand or amir probably know more about how to see language stats for a label [13:54:31] is there a way we can check this manually joakino? There are 13 languages in total and we can do it manually. [13:54:48] lzia: i just found this https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special%3AMessageGroupStats&x=D&group=ext-quicksurveys [13:57:28] lzia: completed seem to be de, fr, gl, he, mk, pt-br, ru, ug-latn, vi, zh-hans [13:57:36] all the rest are mostly at 0% [13:58:57] ok, joakino. this is helpful. Where should these translations change and how should the code be merged for it to be reflected. We are stopping QSs now and we want to catch the next train at 1800 UTC. [13:59:56] lzia: i believe you translate things on translatewiki, and then there's a bot that submits patches to the repositories updating them [14:00:08] not sure when the bot runs, siebrand knows about the process [14:00:13] he usually merges those [14:01:06] lzia: for example https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/project:mediawiki/extensions/QuickSurveys+owner:%22L10n-bot+%253Cl10n-bot%2540translatewiki.net%253E%22 [14:01:08] I'm contacting siebrand joakino. thanks. [14:01:26] 👍 [14:01:35] let us know if you need review or something [14:01:54] thanks, joakino. schana or I may need your help, please stay tuned. ;) [14:02:29] 😄👍 [14:14:14] joakino: I'm confused. for example, for German, should we translate based on https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Ftranslatewiki.net%2Fw%2Fi.php%3Ftitle%3DSpecial%3ATranslate%26group%3Dext-quicksurveys%26language%3Dde-formal%26filter%3D%2521translated%26action%3Dtranslate&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGZ0jLGFfa1578Eip2dL10kAJRpYg or https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translate&action=proofread&group=ext-quicksurveys&language=de&filter=translate [14:14:25] the latter seems to be fully translated joakino. [14:16:52] sorry joakino. the incomplete one is German formal. [14:17:15] Yeah I was puzzled too haha [14:17:21] De Sie-form [14:17:21] yeah, sorry. [14:17:22] lzia, haven't read the whole conversation above yet, but translations are done at mediawiki.org [14:17:34] let me grab a URL [14:17:58] bmansurov for the chrome it is translatewiki no? [14:18:00] if you have trouble reaching siebrand at the moment, you might also consider pinging nikerabbit. he's always been helpful in resolving android translation issues and can probably run the sync scripts in a pinch. he hangs out in #mediawiki-i18n [14:18:25] joakino, I don't think we have text for chrome, everything is survey text, no? [14:18:28] we're missing both in {ar, hi, hu, ja, ro} and "Visit survey" in nl [14:20:00] bmansurov we have buttons like yes no, etc there, only 16 messages tho [14:20:18] oh those are translatewiki then [14:20:46] i can't find a url for actual survey translations though, it's some namespace, I forget which one [14:20:49] can someone summarize for the lay audience? :D I'm confused. should I tell people to translate the translatewiki pages? [14:21:07] lzia, yes [14:21:15] yes, no buttons are coming from there [14:21:43] but I think we want "Visit survey" and "No thanks" [14:22:38] schana: lzia visit survey and no thanks are on translatewiki https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translate&filter=&group=ext-quicksurveys&task=custom&language=ca&action=translate [14:22:43] See there for example [14:22:46] schana, oh if you want to update the english versions, then we have to do it in code [14:23:01] not the english versions [14:23:07] i mean there maybe other ways too [14:23:07] but the translations of those values [14:23:38] schana, then what joakino said, the above url [14:25:16] ok, so are we going to give a big thumbs up to https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translate&filter=&group=ext-quicksurveys&task=custom&language=ca&action=translate ? :D [14:25:27] to translating it, to be more specific? [14:25:42] yes [14:26:44] lovely. thanks. [14:41:13] hello, i have a weird problem with MobileFrontend. basically, in the Special:MobileLanguages page(s), the interwiki links are - for some reason - generated with MY wiki's base url instead of the related wiki's base url [14:41:22] everything's fine in the desktop version and in the ajax popup [14:41:32] it's just those Special:MobileLanguages pages that are wrong and i can't understand why, on wikipedia they seem to work [14:42:21] bmansurov: after we get the translations in translatewiki and run the script to push the changes, what is the process for getting those changes to be live? [14:42:53] schana, they will go out every tuesday and appear on wikis on the following thursday. [14:43:24] is there any way to expedite that process? [14:44:01] schana, I think we can do a swat deploy, but not sure how practical that is given there will be multiple commits. [14:44:54] schana, I'd talk to someone from the language team, they know better. [14:45:13] probably, nikerabbit [14:54:41] hello [15:00:16] joakino: do you think we should make "Visit survey" in Spanish shorter or it will fit in the button? https://translatewiki.net/w/i.php?title=Special:Translate&group=ext-quicksurveys&language=es&filter=translated&action=translate [15:01:48] lzia: seems fine [15:02:01] thanks, joakino [15:17:49] lzia: i've just checked spanish and it moves the button down, which is intentional design, when the buttons don't fit on a line, see https://en.m.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Dog?quicksurvey=external-survey-external%20example%20survey&uselang=es [15:18:42] lzia: sorry that's mobile [15:18:46] desktop looks fine https://en.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/wiki/Dog?quicksurvey=external-survey-external%20example%20survey&uselang=es [15:18:54] false alarm [15:19:28] I see joakino. this is desirable, right? [15:19:49] (though in general it's better for this test to have everything the same across languages, and the location of the button may matter;) [15:19:56] lzia: yep, there's languages that are more verbose, and that's the expected behavior [15:20:40] if you think it is important then some future improvement may be make buttons vertically aligned always since there are times where they don't fit [15:21:16] yeah, joakino. I shall create a ticket for this so at least we don't forget it. I'll do it in a few min. [15:21:52] cool! [16:43:41] bmansurov: for doing a swat deploy for the extension, is there anything needed other than telling ops which commit contains the localization updates? [16:46:11] schana, I think you also need to be online at #wikimedia-operations at the time of deploy [16:46:41] right bmansurov, but they can take care of it if I just point them to the gerrit change? [16:47:01] schana, yes [16:47:11] awesome, thanks bmansurov [16:47:19] schana, I assume you're going to tell them the patch via https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments ? [16:47:24] that's the official way ;) [16:47:26] yes [16:47:36] then all cool [16:51:41] mdholloway: i'm in batcave [17:36:27] bmansurov: what branches should I want this to be deployed to? I'm unfamiliar with the {wmf.xx} notation [17:43:02] schana, one sec [17:47:01] schana, according to https://tools.wmflabs.org/versions/ it's 1.30.0-wmf.5 for the wiki's you're interested in I think [17:48:02] bmansurov: thanks. to clarify, if I say [wmf.5] in the SWAT, it will be deployed to the live wikis? [17:48:51] schana, since you're new they can help, but I think ideally you'd want to create the patch yourself. If you can give me the link to your patch, I can create a deployable patch. [17:49:22] we're waiting for one last translation still [17:49:27] ok [17:49:43] I'll post here when I get a patch. Thanks for all the help [17:50:15] schana, ok, fyi, you can easily do so by clicking on "cherry-pick" in the patch and typing the above branch. [18:02:14] bmansurov: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/360889/ [18:02:37] ok [18:04:23] schana, it's ready, you can link to that patch from the deployments page [18:13:27] thanks bmansurov [19:16:51] bearND: is the parsoid redlink markup patch deployed to prod or just to the beta cluster? [19:21:43] mdholloway: AFAIK only to beta cluster. I think subbu would have mentioned something if it was deployed to production. [19:22:34] bearND: ah, ok. that explains what i'm seeing. thanks. [20:05:39] dbrant: coming to the google meeting? nca