[03:38:08] <tgr>	 bearND|afk: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Logstash#Creating_Kibana_dashboards_with_pretty_URLs
[03:38:57] <tgr>	 haven't tried in production yet, figured with ops traveling and releng on offsite this is not the best time to break dashboards :)
[03:43:38] <bearND|afk>	 tgr: nice. Thanks! I put it on my watchlist.
[18:09:15] <mdholloway>	 tgr: Any idea why https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_Developer_Summit_2018 contains 45 images when I'm logged in, but none when I'm logged out (unless i fiddle with the FastCCI widget)?
[18:09:36] <mdholloway>	 Did I do something wrong when I created the category?  
[18:09:51] <mdholloway>	 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_Foundation_All_Hands_2018 doesn't appear to   have that issue
[18:11:49] <tgr>	 mdholloway: some kind of cache invalidation failure I suppose
[18:12:35] <tgr>	 or maybe not a failure, not quite sure
[18:13:00] <tgr>	 logged-in users pass through varnish so you always see the current state
[18:13:29] <tgr>	 I guess the category pages are not immediately invalidated when an image gets categorized?
[18:14:07] <mdholloway>	 tgr: hmm, yeah, i guess it couldn't hurt to try purging the page from Varnish.
[18:14:09] <tgr>	 probably happens via LinkUpdate, which happens via the job queue (or kafka now)
[18:14:32] <tgr>	 so either that lags or something is wrong with it
[18:14:50] <mdholloway>	 i didn't notice this problem yesterday, and i could have sworn I was logged out at least once when viewing it, but i'm not positive
[18:15:19] <tgr>	 not necessarily deterministic, it could depend on the size of the job queue or whatever
[18:16:11] <tgr>	 or could be a more generic problem with kafka, cf Tilman's comments in T185952
[18:16:14] <stashbot>	 T185952: EventLogging broken in beta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T185952
[18:16:17] <tgr>	 HaeB: ^
[18:17:35] <mdholloway>	 tgr|away: sure enough, purging did the trick. 
[18:17:55] <HaeB>	 hmm
[18:22:24] <d3r1ck>	 jdlrobson: Concerning this, https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/406245/
[18:22:46] <d3r1ck>	 I want to wrap it up now! I've seen your comments on the task and they were very helpful :)
[18:22:47] <d3r1ck>	 Thanks
[19:49:09] <Randomage>	 I apologize beforehand if this is not the appropriate place to ask, but is it possible within mobilefrontent to create a skin that inherits and extends on top of Minerva Neue for mobile?
[22:16:25] <Platonides>	 67