[16:03:58] <Ironholds>	 ow
[16:06:10] <halfak>	 o/ Ironholds 
[16:07:16] <Ironholds>	 hey halfak!
[16:07:18] <Ironholds>	 how goes?
[16:07:31] <halfak>	 Not bad.  What's with "ow"?
[16:07:50] <Ironholds>	 Burnt my fingertip
[16:08:10] <Ironholds>	 doing some woodworking. Woodworking with high-torque tools is HELLA FUN. Why? BEcause burning maple smells delicious
[16:08:15] <halfak>	 Damn.  That hurts.  Lots of nerve endings. 
[16:08:29] <Ironholds>	 however, it is important when combining high-torque drills and hardwood, to remember that friction is kind of how those things work
[16:08:43] <halfak>	 oooh.  What kind of wood working?
[16:08:47] <Ironholds>	 and that touching the drill-tip when you've just bored a 9/12ths of an inch hole through a block of hardwood is a bad idea
[16:08:58] <Ironholds>	 oh, just small carvings and suchlike; making some christmas presents for people.
[16:09:17] <Ironholds>	 I was going to make the office a chisquareatops but getting the angle right is hard.
[16:09:33] <halfak>	 :)  That's great.  I used to do a little whittling and some ikea hacking, but nothing fancy. 
[16:10:02] <halfak>	 Is it the curve that's hard, Ironholds?
[16:10:22] <Ironholds>	 when your tools are a set of small knives, a hacksaw and a drill!
[16:10:30] <Ironholds>	 I was thinking of getting a proper sander
[16:10:46] <Ironholds>	 maybe that'll be my christmas present to myself. Actually that'll probably be a workbench, for the veranda
[16:11:02] <halfak>	 Do you have a dremel?
[16:11:53] <Ironholds>	 I do not! I should get one
[16:12:01] <halfak>	 Oh and some files: http://www.technologystudent.com/images7/hfile8.gif
[16:12:13] <Ironholds>	 but the workbench is important because at the moments my options are "not secure the clamp to a surface" or "drill through my nice desk"
[16:12:18] <halfak>	 http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/tools/Sanders-Routers/finishing-files/machinists-boxed-half-round-files-05059n?infoParam.campaignId=T9F&gclid=CKSswqHD18ICFYNDaQodqXoASg&gclsrc=aw.ds
[16:12:25] <halfak>	 Half round files let you do a lot. 
[16:12:33] <halfak>	 Oh yes. 
[16:12:36] <halfak>	 Workbench first
[16:12:45] <Ironholds>	 yup
[16:12:52] <Ironholds>	 what did you used to make?
[16:12:56] <Ironholds>	 ooh, and how is the garden going?
[16:13:22] <halfak>	 Garden is complete and frozen to the earth.  :) 
[16:13:26] <Ironholds>	 hmn. 9/64 is too small. Let's try 5/32
[16:13:27] <Ironholds>	 yay!
[16:13:50] <halfak>	 I used to combine files and whittling to make nicely handled walking sticks and stuff.  
[16:13:58] <halfak>	 I have a few clubs too.  They were fun to make. 
[16:14:07] <Ironholds>	 ooh
[16:14:47] <halfak>	 I learned quickly that you can't just whittle down a log to make a club.  You need a good wood knot for the head. 
[16:15:38] <halfak>	 I guess most of my useful stuff was fabricated from metal. 
[16:16:35] <halfak>	 That was for building scooters. 
[16:16:40] <Ironholds>	 ...scooters?
[16:17:00] <Ironholds>	 we have confirmation, 5/32 is the right size for the project
[16:17:04] <halfak>	 Before I was a wikipedian, I was a scooterpedian. 
[16:17:12] <halfak>	 Here's the old wiki: http://scooter.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
[16:17:24] <halfak>	 I don't think anyone's really done anything with it since I left. 
[16:17:29] <Ironholds>	 I used to ride one of those!
[16:17:41] <Ironholds>	 rode it damn-near everywhere. If I was out of the house, I was on a scooter
[16:17:42] <halfak>	 http://scooter.wikia.com/wiki/Evo_two_speed_transmission_assembly
[16:17:44] <Ironholds>	 I was a weird 15 year old
[16:17:51] <halfak>	 That was one of the important articles. 
[16:17:56] <Ironholds>	 ooh cool
[16:18:00] <halfak>	 This transition is hard to work with, but awesome. 
[16:18:19] <Ironholds>	 http://www.amazon.com/Dremel-4000-6-50-120-Volt-Variable-Speed/dp/B002L3RUW0/ref=sr_1_1?s=power-hand-tools&ie=UTF8&qid=1419178689&sr=1-1&keywords=dremel overkill y/n
[16:19:56] <halfak>	 That dremel could kick my dremel's ass. 
[16:20:58] <Ironholds>	 http://www.amazon.com/Dremel-4000-2-30-120-Volt-Variable/dp/B002L3RUVG/ref=sr_1_2?s=power-hand-tools&ie=UTF8&qid=1419178709&sr=1-2&keywords=dremel however is half-price
[16:21:11] <Ironholds>	 I think a $270 dremel, even if it's only $150, is too much
[16:21:26] <halfak>	 Agreed. 
[16:21:36] <halfak>	 If you find that you use it all the time, upgrade. 
[16:22:03] <Ironholds>	 yup
[16:22:47] <Ironholds>	 unrelated, C++ has the BEST FEATURE
[16:22:49] <Ironholds>	 REFERENCES
[16:23:03] <Ironholds>	 they're god's answer to "how do I do this thing iteratively to this object in a way that makes the code elegant"
[16:23:23] <Ironholds>	 void iterator(List& list_I_want_to_add_columns_to){}
[16:24:23] <halfak>	 Yup
[16:24:28] <halfak>	 Can do that in php too. 
[16:24:31] <Ironholds>	 also, halfak, if you're gonna be handling big files in R, can I recommend the fastread library?
[16:24:46] <halfak>	 In python and java, it's implied for most everything.  You almost never want to duplicate things in memory. 
[16:24:59] <halfak>	 Sure, but I almost never handle big files in R. 
[16:25:01] <Ironholds>	 read.table, only 10 times faster (not figuratively: I can read a sampled log file in, in 15 SECONDS, with fastread) and you can specify columns to skip entirely
[16:25:02] <Ironholds>	 fair
[16:25:08] <Ironholds>	 then it's probably overkill and fread will do you fine
[16:26:08] <halfak>	 Gotta run and do things with Jenny. 
[16:26:12] <halfak>	 Talk to you later. 
[16:26:12] <Ironholds>	 take care! Hi Jenny!
[16:26:17] <Ironholds>	 looking forward to seeing you both in January :)
[19:41:13] <Ironholds>	 say, halfak, when you're back; what journal would you submit an article on session-derived metrics to?