[02:47:56] <Ironholds>	 evening lzia 
[15:47:33] <Ironholds>	 morning halfak :)
[15:47:52] <halfak>	 Hey Ironholds 
[15:47:59] <halfak>	 How'd the hunt go?
[15:48:10] <Ironholds>	 another team won at 5:02am this morning. Boo!
[15:48:17] <Ironholds>	 We were pretty close though. About to head in for cleanup.
[15:48:23] <Ironholds>	 And I'm hanging out with Nate tomorrow
[15:48:27] <Ironholds>	 so, overall win!
[15:48:36] <Ironholds>	 how has your weekend been thus far?
[15:48:45] <Ironholds>	 oh! And I wrote the COOLEST CODE.
[15:50:12] <Ironholds>	 https://gist.github.com/Ironholds/a3736d0cc2e35761094f
[15:50:22] <halfak>	 Cool!  I've been hacking on revscoring.  I'm doing some tuning of the features right now. 
[15:50:43] <Ironholds>	 neat! My friend Tom is interested in doing a project on content quality classifying
[15:50:43] <halfak>	 Ahhh.  
[15:50:59] <Ironholds>	 wants to work out how quality varies between geographic locales using the geotags.
[15:51:03] * halfak feels so weird when assigning values to a function
[15:51:26] <Ironholds>	 heh. It's incredibly powerful! I have some kinks in it to work out, though.
[15:51:26] <halfak>	 Ironholds, we can do that one pretty well with the WikiClass classifier. 
[15:51:33] <halfak>	 Morten has an updated more for it too. 
[15:51:37] <Ironholds>	 yup, s'what I told him!
[15:51:57] <Ironholds>	 I'm going to unleash him at it and see what happens; there's a little GIS conference in Maryland he wants to present at
[15:51:59] <Ironholds>	 Guerillero, ^
[15:53:58] <halfak>	 Guerillero, I'll be happy to help where I can.  :)  If you'll tolerate using my libraries to do your work, I'll promise to respond to your bugs/feature requests *fast*
[15:54:38] <Ironholds>	 you say that but you still haven't responded to my open bug about the user agent on your API client stuff! :P
[15:54:47] <halfak>	 Wut.  
[15:54:49] * halfak looks
[15:55:37] <halfak>	 That's not a bug.  It is a question. 
[15:55:46] <halfak>	 With no context :P 
[15:56:31] <Ironholds>	 details, details ;p
[15:56:33] * Ironholds adds context
[15:56:37] <halfak>	 Ha.  OK.  This can be fixed with documentation.  You can set any header you want when constructing a session.  But user-agent should be set by default and explicit. 
[15:57:13] <Ironholds>	 yup
[15:57:18] <Ironholds>	 because: it will make me happy ;p
[15:59:14] <halfak>	 :P  I reserve the right to respond to well described bugs first. 
[15:59:36] <Ironholds>	 and I reserve the right to feel bad for submitting a silly-phrased bug due to sleep deprivation, so there!
[15:59:40] <Ironholds>	 wait, that isn't a comeback at all.
[15:59:49] <halfak>	 ALL THE RIGHTS
[15:59:50] <halfak>	 :) 
[16:00:05] <Ironholds>	 hahah
[16:00:43] <halfak>	 Do you think I should force the user to set a user-agent? 
[16:00:53] <halfak>	 I feel conflicted about this. 
[16:01:20] <Ironholds>	 hmn
[16:01:34] <Ironholds>	 so, the approach I've taken is, add an option to set a user agent, which is appended to/overwrites the default
[16:01:41] <Ironholds>	 and the default at least refers to the library
[16:01:44] <Ironholds>	 which is...probably fine.
[16:02:32] <halfak>	 yeah.  That's the pattern I am following, but I sort of think that people should *have* to say who they are. 
[16:02:41] <halfak>	 Definitely confusing to a newbie with the lib though. 
[16:03:15] <Ironholds>	 agreed and agreed
[16:03:49] <halfak>	 Maybe we need some annoying logging
[16:04:26] <halfak>	 "Sending request with default User-Agent.  Set 'user_agent' on api.Session to quiet this message."
[16:04:34] <Ironholds>	 or an API feature that has a lot of say, the top 30 automated querying UAs, and scolds you with a warning.
[16:04:38] <Ironholds>	 that'd work!
[16:05:14] <halfak>	 For the header text, "User-Agent" is the right caps and stuff, right?
[16:05:38] <Ironholds>	 I think so? I'm no traffic expert
[16:05:43] <Ironholds>	 Also I'm really sleep-deprived :/
[16:06:00] <halfak>	 Been up all night?
[16:06:15] <Ironholds>	 oh, I got to bed at about 2am, but my brain is only just kicking into gear
[16:06:21] * Ironholds is not sure what to do with his day
[16:07:20] <halfak>	 Program streaming processor thingie?
[16:07:50] <halfak>	 I was thinking that we could do something really cool with twitter bot that posts all newbie warning messages postings. 
[16:08:23] <Ironholds>	 ooh
[16:08:26] <Ironholds>	 that we could do.
[16:08:27] <halfak>	 That's a two day project though.  
[16:08:31] <halfak>	 Indeed.  :) 
[16:08:32] <Ironholds>	 yeah, probably :(
[16:08:38] <halfak>	 I think it might have a big impact though. 
[16:08:49] <Ironholds>	 the streaming processor will probably be my thing, yeah; the mental model is hard.
[16:09:01] <halfak>	 Especially if I get this revscores thing stood up and we can limit the postings to newcomers who look like they are good-faith. 
[16:09:07] <Ironholds>	 I got into programming on a non-streaming basis and every time I stream it sort of feels like someone turning gravity off.
[16:09:13] <Ironholds>	 "oh, that was optional. Nobody told you?"
[16:09:27] <halfak>	 heh :) 
[16:09:45] <halfak>	 state is crazy stuff.  That's why we like state-less so much :) 
[16:10:12] <halfak>	 So, I really need to get some classifier tuning work in, but I'm down for hacking on this today. 
[16:10:23] <halfak>	 SO. I think we need an island grammar. 
[16:10:38] <halfak>	 Something that can split talk pages into sections and look for markers of certain types of messages. 
[16:10:54] <halfak>	 Preferably based on a config file. 
[16:11:00] <halfak>	 I have something like this in Snuggle. 
[16:11:04] <halfak>	 But I think we can do better. 
[16:11:43] * Ironholds thinks
[16:11:49] <halfak>	 I also suspect that mwparserfromhell will do a good job of splitting a User_talk into sections.  
[16:11:51] <Ironholds>	 we can do that!
[16:11:58] <halfak>	 I haven't looked at how it would work though. 
[16:11:58] <Ironholds>	 Oh, probably. It does everything else well.
[16:12:05] <halfak>	 Except for being fast
[16:12:09] <Ironholds>	 I have to do cleanup for the mystery hunt, though. But I'll be around tomorrow!
[16:12:23] <halfak>	 OK.  I'll start thinking about it.  :) 
[16:12:35] <halfak>	 I'll have more of a plan together once we get a chance to hack a bit. 
[16:12:43] <halfak>	 We might save this for next weekend too. 
[16:12:46] <halfak>	 When we're in SF together. 
[16:14:41] <Ironholds>	 yup!
[16:24:20] <halfak>	 Ironholds, closed your bug. 
[16:24:35] <halfak>	 Library now complains to stderr if you don't set a User-Agent. 
[16:24:51] <halfak>	 But will still work. 
[16:25:52] <Ironholds>	 halfak, yay! Thanks :)
[16:28:55] <halfak>	 Looking at that tldr someecards: "Charlie Brown is a comic strip character who has about the right amount of self-confidence for a bald eight year-old."
[16:28:57] <halfak>	 Lool!
[16:30:01] <Ironholds>	 yuuup
[16:30:05] <Ironholds>	 it's great
[18:16:09] <Ironholds>	 okay, mystery hunt done :)
[19:47:20] <Emufarmers>	 did you win?
[19:47:56] <Ironholds>	 naw, we only just started the runaround
[23:19:24] <Ironholds>	 J-Mo, you watching the game?
[23:20:19] <J-Mo>	 I'm taking a break… too intense. but now I see we're tied?!?!
[23:33:00] * Ironholds high-fives J-Mo 
[23:33:47] <J-Mo>	 wow, just wow Ironholds. I was not prepared for that game.
[23:33:56] <Ironholds>	 that was....mad.
[23:34:15] <Ironholds>	 and now I have to deal with the reality that the Pats will probably win their championship, leaving me a Seahawks fan in Boston in a SEA-PAT superbowl.
[23:38:20] <J-Mo>	 best to keep a low profile, Ironholds
[23:38:25] <Ironholds>	 yuuup
[23:43:45] * Emufarmers starts heating up the tar