[07:36:10] hey YuviPanda [07:36:16] hoi [07:36:21] congrats on the team change, Ironholds [07:36:34] it's not a congrats moment, but ta [07:36:51] well, *hugs* on the team change? [07:37:37] more appropriate ;p [07:37:49] :D [07:37:55] Ironholds: shouldn’t you be sleeping? [07:38:13] I was adding OGP metadata to my website and uploading a new paper [07:38:26] * Ironholds is tryinga distract himself with interesting research [07:38:48] and then at some point I have to get this [expletive] excuse for an [expletive] API that google passed out of their [expletive] ends work nicely. [07:39:15] I'm not saying Google is intentionally making terrible APIs. I'm saying the actual way they went renewable-only was to power their servers with the hate-crying of third-party devs. [07:39:15] ah [07:39:18] nice, nice :D [07:39:27] hate crying is definitely a renewable resource [07:40:44] Ironholds: I’m slowly spending time killing all the perl from toollabs [07:43:00] can you kill it from analytics soon? [07:44:08] analytics has perl? [07:49:06] perl and C [07:49:10] all Zachte-written and undocumented. [07:49:14] he sends them around in .ZIPs. [07:49:18] this is not a funny. [07:53:08] ah [07:53:11] I know the feeling [07:53:14] * YuviPanda sympatizes with Ironholds [07:54:45] * Ironholds hugs [07:55:08] zip files, you say [07:55:51] Ironholds: at least you have zip files. I’ll find them hidden deep in some instance on some project... [07:56:12] Ironholds: however, I do have enough support in the rest of the ops team to just blindly -2 any ops/puppet patches that introduce perl [07:56:47] hahahah [07:56:53] I bet Coren loves you :D [19:06:13] morning halfak :) [19:06:24] Hey dude :) [19:06:29] It's not morning :P [19:06:32] did you get my forward of Michael's email? [19:06:37] hey, I woke up an houra go, it's morning to me [19:09:21] argh. This pattern is still not there :( [19:09:53] I did. Thanks for pointing him my way. [19:17:50] yay! [19:18:04] I thought there were some spooky coincidences there and you might have fun there. You're good with padawans; I should know :) [19:26:03] :) [19:26:11] Great compliment. [19:26:16] an honest one! [19:30:49] YuviPanda|brb, is User:Ops Monitor (WMF) a bot? [19:43:15] morning lzia :) [19:43:46] hello Ironholds [19:43:52] :-) [19:44:27] how goes? [19:45:06] it goes well. Wikimania submission, Ironholds. ;_0 [19:45:08] ;-) [19:45:41] I figured I submit one more, it can't hurt. it's great to get feedback from others, and the next time we see folks in one room will be in a year [19:47:54] neat! [19:48:39] what are you up to? [19:53:04] I am trying to debug some work I'm doing with Scott :) [19:53:25] it looks like my timezone code was wrong for the Nth time. [19:53:31] Why do timezones have to be such a goshdarn PTIA [19:57:10] Because they were designed to work for people on a map -- not to be nicely programmable. [19:57:23] Also, we keep trying to handle them in new, interesting and buggy ways. [19:57:26] :) [19:58:04] Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_second [19:58:07] I hate that. [19:58:33] There's another one coming soon [19:59:28] yep! [19:59:47] halfak, did you know there's another one? [19:59:52] that is, as well as leap seconds and years? [19:59:54] haa, timezones. :-\ [19:59:58] hey halfak [20:00:16] so, there's a caveat to leap years: [20:00:20] Hi lzia :) [20:00:36] they don't occur in the Gregorian calendar if they'd fall on a centenial year not evenly divisible by 400 [20:00:59] but they DO in the Julian. The last time this was a problem was in 1900, which should've been a leap year but 1900/400==bzzzt [20:01:36] so we were 12 days different from the Gregorian until 1900, and since then we've been 13 days off. Time! *jazz hands* [20:04:05] Goddamn reality [20:04:14] Why can't you be cleanly organized!? [20:04:56] inorite? [20:05:13] and that's without going into: some religions use the Julian, STILL, to identify feast days [20:05:19] so this shit /actually matters/ for when people are around [20:30:56] guys, I'm signing off for most probably the rest of the day. see you later. :-) [20:31:42] take care