[02:00:47] <csteipp>	 Ironholds: Still around?
[02:01:12] <Ironholds>	 csteipp, I deny everything
[02:01:23] <Ironholds>	 (yes, I'm writing a website in R. Just to see if I can. The answer is yes! What's up?)
[07:43:06] * Ironholds grumbles
[15:53:11] <halfak>	 Forgot to say: Goodmorning Sciency people.  Happy Friday!
[15:53:25] <Ironholds>	 Happy Friday to you two, Sciency person!
[15:56:53] <Ironholds>	 halfak, are you happy with me replying to that anonymisation thread with a message that in part, encourages Simon to shout out if he can make a strong argument for this research directly benefiting our community or its interests?
[15:57:17] <Ironholds>	 IOW, we can't release, but if you're doing super-exciting research - like, super-super-exciting - maybe an NDA
[15:57:58] <halfak>	 Ironholds, +1 you might also suggest that he writes up an anonymization proposal like Shilad and Reid did. 
[15:58:26] <Ironholds>	 sure!
[15:58:28] <Ironholds>	 thanks :)
[15:58:36] <Ironholds>	 Also,  shaking my head at a certain participant in that thread
[15:58:47] <Ironholds>	 "oh, I'm sure you could sanitise it if you really tried"
[16:00:27] <halfak>	 "It's 2015"
[16:00:30] <halfak>	 :) 
[16:01:57] <Ironholds>	 heheh
[16:04:57] * guillom waves.
[16:14:48] <guillom>	 Ironholds: Thank you for the meeting notes. Sorry I couldn't be there; allergies make me completely useless. Should we find some time today to discuss the action plan? (Next week works too.)
[16:15:13] <Ironholds>	 no!
[16:15:18] <Ironholds>	 ....np! typos are great.
[16:15:34] <Ironholds>	 finding time today sounds fine; I'm mostly free. Pick a slot that works for you :)
[16:16:19] <guillom>	 Ironholds: What are your working hours? (I don't like meetings on Friday evening and I imagine you don't either)
[16:17:36] <Ironholds>	 PST working hours
[16:17:41] <Ironholds>	 also, thank you Wikidata team. Thank you so much
[16:17:56] <Ironholds>	 not having an API was insuffiicient in terms of making things hard, so why not totally fail to minify the JSON?
[16:18:01] <Ironholds>	 that way, nobody can stream-parse it!
[17:05:58] <dr0ptp4kt>	 nuria: do you know if analytics-internal (as well as the public one) allow anyone to send to them? i understand if in the case of analytics-internal you have to be a member to see archives, i was just wondering if it's possible to email those lists without getting bounces
[17:06:03] <dr0ptp4kt>	 (if not part of them)
[17:06:14] <dr0ptp4kt>	 i'm on analytics external, not sure if i'm a part of analytics-internal
[17:06:28] <nuria>	 dr0ptp4kt: puff I *think* internal requires you to be on team, the other one is full open
[17:06:55] <nuria>	 dr0ptp4kt: so in your case, i would e-mail analytics@
[17:07:06] <dr0ptp4kt>	 nuria: i was thinking for our email discussion from yesterday that some members on the internal list didn't see it in that case. i guess they did at least see your emails.
[17:07:43] <nuria>	 dr0ptp4kt: i *should* have done external though, you are right!!!
[17:07:53] <nuria>	 dr0ptp4kt: my mistake
[17:09:47] <dr0ptp4kt>	 nuria: cool. would you please forward my final email from yesterday?
[17:09:54] <dr0ptp4kt>	 nuria: to internal, that is
[17:10:57] <nuria>	 dr0ptp4kt: yes.
[17:12:41] <nuria>	 dr0ptp4kt: it is there already
[18:57:47] * Ironholds sobs at wikidata
[18:57:58] <Ironholds>	 why would you have streaming-proof JSON. WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT.
[19:07:48] <Emufarmers>	 https://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/09/19/what-are-readers-looking-for-wikipedia-search-data-now-available/ is a little astonishing. "Yes, yes, but this time will be different™"
[21:14:34] <halfak>	 o/ nettrom
[21:14:47] <halfak>	 I'm trying to find your fork of wikiclass. 
[21:15:06] <halfak>	 Github doesn't think you have one O.o
[21:17:14] <Nettrom>	 I probably don't
[21:17:17] <Nettrom>	 will fork
[21:18:49] <Nettrom>	 haha, "Initial module structure. Nothing is working" as a comment on "datasets" folder is somewhat amusing :)
[21:21:17] <Nettrom>	 ok, I got a fork, will work on incorporating my changes and getting a pull request ready over the weekend
[21:29:46] <halfak>	 Nettrom cool.  I'm hoping to take your pull request and use it to merge in the revscoring changes I made. 
[21:45:59] <Ironholds>	 I'm being dumb
[21:46:00] <Ironholds>	 dammit
[21:48:48] <halfak>	 Stop it
[21:48:52] <halfak>	 Be smrtr
[21:49:04] <halfak>	 smrt people don't need vwls
[21:49:53] <halfak>	 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhrfhjLd9e4
[21:49:58] <halfak>	 ^ for the uncultured
[21:50:01] <guillom>	 y mn smrt ppl dn't nd vwls
[21:50:34] <Ironholds>	 halfak, I am being smart!
[21:50:45] <Ironholds>	 and now my repo consists of a dedicated SQL query run through a cascading bash script
[21:50:53] <Ironholds>	 "smart" seems to look a lot like "CRAPL"
[21:51:14] <halfak>	 Sometimes smart == using the available tools for their intended purpose. 
[21:51:18] * Nettrom wonders if Ironholds is buying a smart car
[21:51:33] <Ironholds>	 no, I can't drive
[21:51:40] <Nettrom>	 but you can fly?
[21:52:12] <Nettrom>	 or can you currently pilot neither automobile nor airplane?
[21:52:42] <Ironholds>	 currently neither; I /could/ fly, I have never been able to drive
[21:53:04] <Ironholds>	 halfak, RStudio now has syntax recognition for SQL and bash
[21:53:05] <Nettrom>	 oh, sorry, but I find it neat that one doesn't require the other
[21:53:06] <Ironholds>	 join usssss
[21:53:56] <halfak>	 Every text editor I've used has syntax highlighting for SQL and bash. 
[21:53:58] <halfak>	 :P 
[21:54:45] <halfak>	 How does RStudio do syntax highlighting?
[21:55:18] <halfak>	 I've always been a fan of Emacs' "mode files"
[21:55:25] <YuviPanda>	 Ironholds: hi5 on not driving
[21:55:37] <halfak>	 I figured that there should be a standard so I could, say, import my emacs modes into RStudio
[21:55:48] <Ironholds>	 I actually don't know
[21:56:12] <halfak>	 atom seems to use javascript to do modes.  I haven't dug into it, but it has what I need, so that's OK with me. 
[21:56:36] <Nettrom>	 halfak: do you still use Gedit for R code, or have you discovered emacs+ESS?
[21:56:56] <Ironholds>	 ....GEDIT?!
[21:56:58] * Ironholds cries
[21:57:17] * Nettrom is behind the times on halfak's tool choices
[21:57:30] <halfak>	 I used jedit :P 
[21:57:43] <halfak>	 jedit was pretty cool, but the community was too small, so I moved away. 
[21:57:54] <halfak>	 Now I use atom for R
[21:58:03] <halfak>	 I use atom for everything. 
[21:58:43] <Nettrom>	 cool, cool
[21:59:07] <Ironholds>	 sublime
[21:59:09] <Ironholds>	 subliiiiime
[21:59:16] <Ironholds>	 (wait, atom exists for linux now? Cool)
[22:01:33] <halfak>	 Ironholds, Yeah.  I've been using it for a little more than a year. 
[22:01:45] <Ironholds>	 huh; cool!
[22:01:52] <halfak>	 It was a little unstable to begin with, but I've had no headaches in a long time. 
[22:01:58] <halfak>	 At least ones caused by atom. 
[22:02:03] <Ironholds>	 I normally use RStudio for everything organised, sublime for throwaways and nano for remote stuff
[22:02:14] <Ironholds>	 (I even use Rstudio for Java and Python, because sublime's defaults are SO BAD)
[22:02:28] <halfak>	 You should check out atom. 
[22:02:50] <Ironholds>	 I shall! I need a good lightweight editor
[22:02:52] <halfak>	 I don't think I have touched the defaults and there are some nice utilities for sorting imports and enforcing pep8
[22:02:56] <Ironholds>	 oo
[22:03:02] <Ironholds>	 and does it let you have *looks around* /newlines/?
[22:03:23] <halfak>	 Define: "have newlines"
[22:05:31] <Ironholds>	 Spyder eats newlines between chunks of Python. Which would be fine except "eating" constitutes "removing all the spaces"
[22:05:51] <Ironholds>	 the result is I curse a lot, my code breaks and I end up with amorphos blobs starting in "def"
[22:06:09] <Ironholds>	 whoever came up with that convention: you are a Bad Person.
[22:25:39] <halfak>	 Ironholds, I don't know what you are talking about, so you're probably safe in atom :) 
[22:35:48] * halfak coffeeshop --> home office
[22:35:57] <halfak>	 be back in ~30min