[00:40:26] leila: ready to talk? [03:34:01] Ironholds: I love redirects [03:35:10] harej: me too [03:35:35] I've created dozens. They're my contribution to Wikipedia.net [03:35:47] * Ironholds flinches [03:38:49] Wikipedia.biz [03:43:26] * Ironholds flinches [03:44:37] the other day i received in wikimedia dc's po box a check made out to the "Wikipedia Foundation" [14:02:52] Good morning science people :) [14:05:21] morning halfak, i see you are in our standup [14:05:27] or at least, a flatter version of you.. [15:03:28] ottomata, I'm what? [15:03:37] Oh! My cutout! [15:03:40] :) [15:15:16] 2D-halfak. It's always there, it smiles evilly, and it never sleeps. [17:59:21] hey halfak, I’ll be with you in 5, wrapping up a note for Yana [17:59:30] OK [18:08:20] alright, coming (you booked me on the 5th floor, first time I get there), brb [18:08:23] halfak: ^ [18:08:39] DarTar, yeah. Only location I could find. I thought it would be fun. [18:25:30] DarTar: do you want to chat briefly before the meeting with Jon? [18:31:39] leila: just finished with halfak, sorry [18:31:43] coming down [18:33:33] np DarTar. [18:43:08] Ironholds: hey; I'm still stuck in VE-diff-review-land for the next few hours, but if you have a moment, I'd appreciate feedback on the content I added to the table yesterday. [18:43:55] guillom, it seems good but the structure is confusing me [18:44:00] we now have two sections about ideas for development [18:44:20] hmm [18:44:28] so I'm gradually transitioning the table into the prose section, and will move the research questions and table thereof into the "research" section, to-be-created. [18:44:30] if that makes sense? [18:45:45] as long as the research questions are associated in some way to the use cases, I'm fine with any reorg :) I just don't want the research to become disconnected from the goals. [18:46:27] yup [18:46:38] now to spend an extended period of time stressing the fuck out [18:46:52] at what point do I start getting to laugh uproariously and invite people who aren't Erik to swivel on it? [18:46:59] I'm looking forward to that point. [18:48:08] I'm hoping to focus on the infoboxes later today or tomorrow FYI. Do you know what you'll focus on? [18:48:45] I was thinking of directing a dedicated Two Minutes of Hate at the Wikidata API and then maybe some light crochet. [18:48:54] :p [18:48:55] but more likely, the content investigation questions [18:48:59] I'm just waiting for a query to finish up. [18:49:35] and by "just" I mean "it has been running for three days what the HELL ARE YOU THINKING WIKIDATA TEAM" [18:49:48] who distributes 50GB of JSON in a non-minified format? [18:49:57] do their engineers just lack any legitimate expectation that anyone will use it? What? [18:50:00] ok; looks like we can work without stepping on each other's toes. Which is Good. [18:50:58] Also, feel free to move the page to Research: or to d: any time you want. [18:51:25] I need fewer things to do, not more. [18:52:18] I said "feel free", meaning freedom, not "I demand that you do this now" :p [19:58:46] o/ YuviPanda [19:59:00] hey halfak [19:59:01] :) [19:59:02] I want to do syntax hightlighting in a textarea. [19:59:07] halfak: codemirror [19:59:08] What would you recommend? [19:59:10] kk [19:59:22] halfak: also chime in on the rcstream thread? :) [19:59:48] The shutdown rumor one? [20:00:13] halfak: ya [20:00:19] it’s right now at ‘why should I move, really? [20:00:20] ' [20:00:46] Hmm... I done have a good argument for why you should move given the current state of rcstream beyond the arguments you have made. [20:01:07] believe it or not, I've never used RCStream :S [20:01:11] halfak: then a +1? :) [20:01:12] heh :) [20:01:17] I need quarantees of no message loss [20:01:24] So I poll the API :\ [20:01:26] heh [20:01:27] true [20:02:06] But I can always +1. JSON and standard protocols > Whatever the F IRC format & IRC server [20:02:46] yeah [20:02:56] I think that’s my ultimate argument anyway [20:10:01] Yay! There's a yaml mode for codemirror [20:44:35] Hey YuviPanda, I'm trying to replicate the behavior you have on quarry where codemirror resizes as new lines are added. [20:44:41] Is that built into codemirror? [20:44:55] * halfak digs through your code and doesn't find anything obvious [20:45:51] halfak: I think it is built in yeah [20:46:27] halfak: https://codemirror.net/demo/resize.html [20:46:45] Thanks. I'll keep poking :) [20:50:39] lzia: the IRCCloud loomio was for people who dont want to setup their own bouncers :) [20:50:47] halfak: it is vague CSS magic [20:50:58] like me, YuviPanda? ;-) [20:51:22] I mean, I didn't block it. I just said I don't like what's suggested. If enough people like it, we still get it. [20:51:35] True :) [20:51:56] I have a bouncer and IRCCloud connects to my bouncer so I can chat from Bart like I am doing now :D [20:52:26] ah! I see. [20:52:29] YuviPanda: Wait, doesn't IRCCloud serve as bouncer? Why do you need another one? [20:52:41] guillom: because I want to keep my own logs too [20:52:43] * halfak pulls hairs out weird bugs. [20:53:10] again, I don't mean to block things, and I didn't block the proposal. I just thought it's important that I'd say I prefer for us not to do it. [20:53:17] If we decide to do it, I'm fine with it, too. [20:53:19] guillom: and I can use regular IRC clients if I want to [20:53:34] the cons are too much for me, YuviPanda. [20:53:52] YuviPanda: Oh. So you either use an IRC client + your bouncer, or IRCCloud+their bouncer? [20:54:09] leila: :) totally fair - I am just pushing around because the other 'alternative' being suggested was slack :) [20:54:28] Why do we need bouncers again? [20:54:44] guillom: no. It is either IRCCloud + their bouncer + my bouncer or my IRC client plus my bouncer [20:54:51] I'm aware of the extra hop :D [20:55:26] FWIW I mentioned Quassel in the officewiki thread; it's FLOSS and has a bouncer and a client app, and an Android app. [20:55:40] YuviPanda: Oooh. I see. [20:56:41] guillom: so problem there is that clients dont sync and it will kill your phone's battery [20:57:01] I spent about 2months looking for an oss solution before giving up. I should write up a blog post [20:58:28] Fair enough. I rarely ever use IRC on my phone; IRC == work. [20:59:50] guillom: yeah. It is also a good chunk of my non work socialization [21:00:10] yup [21:00:14] I've decided I actually need 3 partitions [21:00:20] "recreation", "work", "recreation code" [21:05:14] DarTar, lzia, are we having a meeting? [21:05:30] hey, fighting with a display :( [21:06:31] OK [21:06:40] No talking about things without me./ [21:06:45] :P [21:06:53] almost there halfak [21:06:53] :D [23:11:43] halfak: you still there? [23:13:55] does that query list the articles which were most edited during the last year or the ones which by last year had the highest number of revisions (made any time in the past)? [23:20:01] Helder, it lists those most edited in the last year. [23:20:18] We can do the other if that's what you need. [23:21:20] He7d3r, ^ [23:21:30] * halfak needs to learn to TAB [23:22:21] nope.. I think this one is what I needed [23:22:21] http://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/3012 [23:24:09] thanks [23:26:53] halfak: however it doesn't seems to be sorting by the number of edits [23:27:28] wut. [23:27:31] * halfak looks [23:27:40] (if I click two times in the column "edits" it puts some pages with more edits than the ones which where there when the page was loaded [23:28:06] halfak: it seems they are from other namespaces [23:28:17] Yeah... [23:28:24] Not sure why that is breaking the sorting. [23:29:58] YuviPanda, [23:30:03] got a minute to look at a thing? [23:31:11] halfak: ? the table is tampering with the result sorting ordeR? [23:31:23] halfak: hmm, it looks like it by default sorst by the first column [23:31:27] and that’s why He7d3r is seeing htis [23:31:46] I’m not sure how best to turn it off >_> [23:31:48] definitely a bug [23:32:05] as a quick workaround, downloading the CSV / TSV ought to give you the original ordering [23:32:09] and then can one of you file a bug? [23:33:11] 10Quarry: Quarry sorts by the first column by default - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95369#1187983 (10He7d3r) 3NEW [23:33:19] YuviPanda: ^ [23:33:29] sweet [23:33:38] I’ll try to take a look in the next few days :| [23:33:59] \o/ [23:34:03] Thanks guys :) [23:34:38] thank you too :-) [23:34:44] I'll need to go now [23:34:50] o/ [23:35:51] See ya!