[17:53:53] <Ironholds>	 hey leila 
[17:54:03] <leila>	 hi Ironholds. :-)
[17:54:05] * Ironholds hugs YuviPanda 
[17:54:16] <leila>	 what are you up to Ironholds?
[17:55:32] <Ironholds>	 tidying, maybe writing some code for my presentation later :)
[17:55:59] <leila>	 what presentation?
[17:56:08] <Ironholds>	 you?
[17:56:14] <Ironholds>	 ah! Talking at Hack/Reduce on the 23rd
[17:56:41] <leila>	 coool! :-)
[17:56:47] <leila>	 what will you be talking about?
[18:01:00] <Ironholds>	 the C++ libraries I wrote in my spare time
[18:01:25] <Ironholds>	 the stuff I am paid to do, nobody gives a shit about. The stuff I voluntarily do is tremendously valuable to everyone, which explains why I get...told. a lot. not to work on it because it's of no use. Huh.
[18:09:13] <leila>	 humm. :-\
[18:10:01] <leila>	 hey, pageview stuff are great.
[18:10:17] <leila>	 that was a neat project you worked on, Ironholds. 
[18:10:42] <Ironholds>	 indeed! I particularly loved the way I was fired for not being technical enough after implementing it in Java, and for not being researchy enough after authoring the core definition.
[18:11:04] <Ironholds>	 And the way that implementing it in a useful format has stalled now that the team working on it is 1 body down ;p
[18:11:53] <Ironholds>	 Don't get me wrong, it was excellent work. The chain of events that followed it are, as a result, 15 times as confusing and wtf-inducing.
[18:12:06] <leila>	 implementation will happen, Ironholds. the other things you mentioned are more complicated, and I don't fully understand.
[18:12:16] <Ironholds>	 neither does anyone else
[18:12:22] <Ironholds>	 and yes, implementation will happen.
[18:12:42] <leila>	 hmm. yeah, okay. didn't mean to distract you. C++ library presentation it is. :-)
[18:12:44] <Ironholds>	 In the meantime we're using outdated and definitively inaccurate data everywhwere, serving it through a third-party API that doesn't count mobile and falls over once a week, and argh.
[18:12:47] <harej>	 love too work on a sunday
[18:13:05] <leila>	 haha harej. ;-)
[18:13:19] <leila>	 this was a good reminder, harej. I'm out of here. ;p
[18:13:39] <harej>	 i'm not judging either of you! i also am working on a sunday.
[18:13:55] <leila>	 judging is fine, too. :-)
[18:14:16] <leila>	 have a good rest of the day/night everyone. see you tomorrow.
[18:19:20] <halfak>	 o/
[18:35:00] <Emufarmers>	 halfak: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2015/04/15/the-great-wikipedia-hoax/ you're in the paper!
[18:35:16] <Ironholds>	 again?!
[18:35:17] <halfak>	 :)  Yeah.  Saw that.  :D  
[18:35:17] * Ironholds adds to wp
[18:35:19] <Emufarmers>	 Alas, they didn't solicit a quote from you to put next to luminaries such as Greg Kohs. :-(
[18:35:21] <halfak>	 lol
[18:35:47] <halfak>	 Yeah, they kinda gave him a microphone there, huh?  
[18:36:22] <halfak>	 *megaphone
[18:36:24] <halfak>	 :) 
[18:37:16] <Emufarmers>	 Yeah, there are some silly parts of that piece, though as far as journalism about Wikipedia goes, it's not bad overall.
[18:38:20] * Emufarmers waves at Ironholds
[18:38:22] <Ironholds>	 like the fact that a big chunk cites Greg Kohs
[18:38:24] <Ironholds>	 hey Emufarmers 
[18:38:27] <Emufarmers>	 I think I saw you last week
[18:38:31] <Emufarmers>	 at Sue's talk
[18:38:35] <Ironholds>	 yes!
[18:38:46] <Ironholds>	 you should've stuck around, we went to a bar and talked feminism
[18:39:25] <Emufarmers>	 Ah, well, there's always next time
[18:39:29] <Emufarmers>	 > Thursday: Join 4 Wikimedians at "April meeting. Discussion topic: Gender gap projects across Wikimedia"
[18:39:33] <Emufarmers>	 *hinthint*
[18:40:06] <Ironholds>	 I'm giving a presentation at Hack/Reduce on vectorised C++ libraries for handling web data :(
[18:40:07] <harej>	 boston meetup mates
[18:40:24] <Ironholds>	 Maia announced this meet literally a day after I confirmed. Boo!
[18:40:51] <Emufarmers>	 I guess that is an acceptable excuse
[18:40:57] <Emufarmers>	 you will be spared our wrath in this instance
[18:44:52] <harej>	 sorry emufarmers i won't be able to make it
[18:47:45] <Emufarmers>	 harej is still one of our more regular attendees, and he lives several states over!
[18:47:52] <Emufarmers>	 In a state of non-statehood
[18:47:58] <harej>	 regular?
[18:48:01] <harej>	 i never go more than once a year
[18:48:10] <Ironholds>	 harej, you should come to the next one I'm at
[18:48:19] <harej>	 uh, sure. let me know which one that is
[18:48:25] <Ironholds>	 the next-but-one one
[18:48:32] <Emufarmers>	 There are lots of people I only see once a year :p
[18:48:56] <harej>	 8 hour bus trip vs. 1 hour flight
[18:49:08] <harej>	 Last time I went to Boston I flew in and out the same day!
[18:51:38] <Ironholds>	 well you can stay for a while this time!
[18:54:32] <harej>	 that'd be cheaper
[22:20:38] <harej>	 Ironholds: I like metrics around my music too. I have been meticulously tracking music-related metrics since 2007, and that's why I refuse to leave iTunes.
[22:21:19] <harej>	 In fact, before I deleted it, I had a blog post about a metric I developed to determine how much I liked a song. It was play count relative to the point of time the song was added to the collection.
[22:21:27] <harej>	 ...And I was confused when Garfield said I was a numbers guy.
[22:23:44] <Ironholds>	 huh!
[22:23:46] <Ironholds>	 hah
[22:51:08] <Ironholds>	 I'm spending my evening researching neurotoxins for a video series
[22:51:10] <Ironholds>	 ....this is fun?
[22:51:26] <Ironholds>	 and making me feel like I should at some point do a podcast on "weird trivia and shit", because what else is a Wikipedian good for