[12:45:00] <Ironholds>	 who are the phabricator admins?
[12:45:11] <Ironholds>	 this is somewhat urgent
[13:07:02] <hare>	 Ironholds: speaking of urgent, did you know that if Anchor CMS shits the bed, it will post your database password to the World Wide Web?
[13:08:22] <hare>	 It says "here's an error, we have posted it to this filepath," and the filepath is __accessible through a browser__
[13:16:40] <Ironholds>	 hare, I did not!
[13:45:57] <Ironholds>	 morning fhocutt, halfak :)
[13:55:51] <halfak>	 o/ Ironholds 
[13:55:52] <halfak>	 :) 
[13:56:08] <Ironholds>	 how goes?
[13:56:29] <halfak>	 Not bad.  Still booting up.  How are you feeling?
[13:57:44] * halfak is excited to finish his refactoring of language processing in revscoring
[13:58:23] <halfak>	 When I'm done, you'll be able to use features from many different languages when processing edits in a wiki.  So, commons and wikidata should work better :) 
[14:04:56] <halfak>	 Ironholds, ^ 
[14:08:48] <Ironholds>	 halfak, sweet!
[14:09:03] <Ironholds>	 and, I'm feeling better? Apparently I spent most of yesterday evening feverish and talking shit
[14:09:18] * halfak didn't get talked shit to, so that's good
[14:09:23] <Ironholds>	 who the hell catches the flu in August?!
[14:09:30] <Ironholds>	 oh, no, talking shit in the sense of "nonsense"
[14:09:51] <halfak>	 Oh!  I still didn't get that
[14:10:27] <Ironholds>	 yeah, I wasn't allowed near computers except to watch Community
[14:10:34] <halfak>	 Ironholds, you catch the flu in Aug. by hanging out with other people who catch the flu in Aug.  
[14:10:44] <Ironholds>	 The SO came over and forced me to stay in bed and watch TV
[14:10:46] <Ironholds>	 I like her
[14:10:47] <halfak>	 That's a great show. 
[14:10:52] <Ironholds>	 it is! I'd never seen it!
[14:11:04] <Ironholds>	 but I watched 14 episodes in a day!
[14:11:10] <halfak>	 yay netflix?
[14:11:31] <Ironholds>	 *coughs*
[14:11:34] <Ironholds>	 yeah...netflix...
[14:12:03] <Ironholds>	 actually on that note, does anyone need HBO? My ISP gave me five subscriptions and there aren't five of me.
[14:12:42] <Ironholds>	 halfak, oh, and I'mma be in Chicago in early October, apparently.
[14:13:04] <Ironholds>	 also the Discovery offsite is in Florida. Like, the NASA bits of Florida. Is good.
[14:13:11] <halfak>	 Uh oh.  I just scheduled a talk @ mizzou for Oct 6th. 
[14:13:25] <halfak>	 Maybe I'll be in Chicago the next week. 
[14:13:30] <halfak>	 I'll ping shaw
[14:16:44] <Ironholds>	 halfak, Mizzou?
[14:16:58] <halfak>	 Missouri U
[14:17:02] <Ironholds>	 also, a mathematician just proved that it's impossible to find a faster edit distance algorithm
[14:17:08] <Ironholds>	 cool! I will not be there but that is okay :)
[14:17:41] <halfak>	 When you say "early October", could that possibly mean the second week?
[14:18:01] <Ironholds>	 1st to the 6th-ish; out there for a wedding
[14:18:08] <Ironholds>	 (www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2015/08/10/computer-scientists-have-looked-for-solution-that-doesn-exist/tXO0qNRnbKrClfUPmavifK/story.html btw)
[14:22:13] * halfak is not surprised about limitations in edit distance computability. 
[14:22:40] <Ironholds>	 yeah, but it's pretty cool to prove it
[14:22:42] <halfak>	 Also, the worst case situation is usually much worse than the actual case. 
[14:22:51] <Ironholds>	 (I mean, not perfectly, but you can't prove it without P=NP, so)
[14:22:52] <Ironholds>	 oh, absolutely!
[14:22:54] <halfak>	 So, the articles conclusion about genomics seems wrong to me. 
[14:22:57] <Ironholds>	 my favourite example of that is prime numbers
[14:23:09] <Ironholds>	 prime number computations are THE BEST
[14:23:33] <Ironholds>	 See, a couple of years ago (2006 or so?) they finally came up with a provably polynomial way of computing prime numbers.
[14:23:48] <Ironholds>	 Mind-blowing. Won tons of prizes. First provable, measurable algorithm for doing this.
[14:23:50] <Ironholds>	 Nobody uses it.
[14:24:24] <Ironholds>	 It's fastest, mathematically. But the start of the sequence where it's faster would require us to invent something bigger than a long long.
[14:24:41] <Ironholds>	 Pre-existing algorithms are faster for computationally storable values.
[14:24:56] <halfak>	 ha. 
[14:26:04] <Ironholds>	 (I have kind of a prime number obsession and that is okay)
[14:26:19] <halfak>	 Ever considered crypto work?
[14:28:09] <Ironholds>	 it's a nerdy area of interest but I don't think I'm mathematical enough to get into it deeply. Mind you, I used to think code was magic, so.
[14:28:57] <halfak>	 Sounds like math to me.  Magic until you get there and realize "This is what you guys have been up to behind the 'Math curtain'!?  This is just fancy talk around ordinary things!"
[14:29:09] <Ironholds>	 ahahah. ++.
[14:35:35] <Ironholds>	 halfak, so apparently there's an analytics conference at UMN coming up
[14:35:39] <Ironholds>	 researchers get in free, and the conference is paid for by charging "Recruiters, Sales & Account Reps"
[14:35:41] <Ironholds>	 I like your people.
[14:35:48] <Ironholds>	 (I mean, I already liked your people, but.)
[14:45:05] <halfak>	 Ironholds, interesting. 
[14:45:10] <halfak>	 +1 for that pricing scheme. 
[14:45:19] <halfak>	 But it does put you at the whims of industry. 
[14:45:26] <Ironholds>	 indeed!
[14:46:00] * guillom waves.
[14:47:30] <guillom>	 I saw someone wearing this in the street yesterday, and I thought I ought to share it here: http://www.spreadshirt.com/keep-calm-and-research-on-women-s-t-shirts-C3376A13550729/vp/13550729T347A2PC122519929PA540X65Y41#/detail/13550729T347A2PC122519929PA540X65Y41
[16:18:27] <Ironholds>	 fhocutt_, wb :)
[16:24:06] <Nettrom>	 o/ Ironholds 
[16:24:28] <Ironholds>	 hey Nettrom!
[16:59:23] <fhocutt_>	 hey Ironholds 
[22:55:19] <hare>	 Ironholds, I have no idea how you can embrace the horror of American Apartheid and have coherent opinions on it and not just nosedive into fear and anger like I do.