[15:59:34] <Amir1>	 milimetric: hey, is it possible to use bootstrap. Can I load it?
[15:59:41] <Amir1>	 in preview.tag
[16:00:17] <milimetric>	 Amir1: nooooooooo :)
[16:00:23] <milimetric>	 why?  semantic-ui man!
[16:00:36] <Amir1>	 I wanted to build a dropdown
[16:00:45] <Amir1>	 I greped bootstrap
[16:00:49] <milimetric>	 and you don't like the semantic ui dropdowns?
[16:00:53] <Amir1>	 I saw it's there
[16:01:01] <Amir1>	 I never used it
[16:01:18] <milimetric>	 that's how the other dropdowns on the site are (the language pairs ones)
[16:01:31] <milimetric>	 you're doing a dropdown for the Translate / Create choice?
[16:01:46] <Amir1>	 yeah
[16:01:50] <Amir1>	 something like that
[16:01:54] <Amir1>	 okay I use it
[16:01:59] <milimetric>	 cool, yeah
[16:02:01] <Amir1>	 and it's already loaded there?
[16:02:05] <milimetric>	 you'll love semantic, it's so much better
[16:02:08] <milimetric>	 yeah, here's the code, one sec
[16:02:37] <Amir1>	 http://semantic-ui.com/modules/dropdown.html
[16:02:49] <milimetric>	 "ui dropdown" is all you need but there are customizations
[16:02:54] <milimetric>	 the example on our site is: https://github.com/ewulczyn/translation-recs-app/blob/master/api/static/Recommend.tag#L19
[16:03:18] <milimetric>	 but yours won't be dynamic (just put each choice in its own option)
[16:03:37] <milimetric>	 so it's just an html dropdown and semantic hoists it out and makes it pretty
[16:03:55] <milimetric>	 this is how you create it: https://github.com/ewulczyn/translation-recs-app/blob/master/api/static/Recommend.tag#L114
[16:03:56] <Amir1>	 great
[16:03:59] <Amir1>	 let me try it
[16:04:02] <Amir1>	 thanks :)
[16:04:17] <milimetric>	 (there's also a css-only one but that one's a little weirder for this particular use)
[16:04:26] <milimetric>	 lemme know if you have troubles
[16:05:33] <Amir1>	 sure
[16:05:35] <Amir1>	 thanks
[16:05:36] <halfak>	 semantic UI doesn't use semantic HTML
[16:05:38] <halfak>	 :S
[16:05:56] <halfak>	 It does look very nice though :D
[16:06:09] <milimetric>	 it's semantic css
[16:06:26] <halfak>	 Ahh yes.  I see. 
[16:06:37] <halfak>	 Sort of replaces tags with meaningful class names
[16:07:35] <milimetric>	 Amir1: you might want "ui simple dropdown" actually, sorry about the misleading, the <select> version might make more sense for dynamic choices
[16:08:29] <Amir1>	 milimetric: I think "menu" is better
[16:08:32] <Amir1>	 see the link
[16:08:39] <Amir1>	 http://semantic-ui.com/modules/dropdown.html
[16:08:40] <milimetric>	 yes, that's true too
[16:08:59] <milimetric>	 basically, semantic rules, go shopping and have fun :)
[16:09:37] <halfak>	 Is this for something that'll appear in MediaWiki? 
[16:10:08] <Amir1>	 o/ halfak :)
[16:10:18] <halfak>	 o/ Amir1  :D
[16:10:24] <Amir1>	 no, in the recommender system 
[16:10:36] <halfak>	 Gotcha. 
[16:10:40] <halfak>	 The link recommender?
[16:10:44] <halfak>	 Or the translation recommender?
[16:11:37] <Amir1>	 translation recommender
[16:12:16] <halfak>	 If it was in MediaWiki, I was going to comment on using oojs-ui.
[16:12:28] <halfak>	 I don't like the library, but I do like standards. 
[16:26:29] <harej>	 I think it's the best standard we got.
[16:35:58] <Amir1>	 milimetric: one question: do we have something like this? http://recommend.wmflabs.org/?title=foo&from=en&to=ca 
[16:36:25] <Amir1>	 I want to build a link to something like this
[16:45:56] <milimetric>	 I missed Amir1, but if he reads backlog, the link for the api is: http://recommend.wmflabs.org/api?s=en&t=ca
[16:46:03] <milimetric>	 but do you mean a different link?
[16:54:43] <halfak>	 o/ Amir1|afk 
[16:54:56] <Amir1|afk>	 hey :) halfak
[16:54:58] <halfak>	 milimetric responded to your question.  You are looking for "http://recommend.wmflabs.org/api?s=en&t=ca"
[16:55:22] <halfak>	 I dunno where to put the foo
[16:55:22] <milimetric>	 right, if you're trying to hit the api directly, amir, is that what you need?
[16:55:27] <milimetric>	 no foo!
[16:55:40] <milimetric>	 sorry, jk, foo is the seed article, right?
[16:55:41] <Amir1>	 milimetric: no, I don't need api 
[16:55:48] <milimetric>	 oh... what you tryin' to link to
[16:55:53] <Amir1>	 milimetric: yes I need seed
[16:56:09] <milimetric>	 so what would that url return?
[16:56:27] <Amir1>	 the recommander system itslef
[16:56:29] <Amir1>	 not the api
[16:57:10] <milimetric>	 hm, not sure what you mean Amir1 
[16:57:27] <milimetric>	 the api has only one function - recommend articles based on source, target, seed
[16:57:28] <milimetric>	 http://recommend.wmflabs.org/api?s=en&t=ca&article=Orange
[16:57:37] <Amir1>	 No, Not api
[16:57:49] <Amir1>	 I want to give this link to human
[16:57:58] <milimetric>	 oh!
[16:58:04] <milimetric>	 you want a bookmark link
[16:58:16] <milimetric>	 to the interface with source / target / seed pre-selected
[16:58:18] <milimetric>	 ?
[16:58:19] <Amir1>	 in the button in preview. Linking to "Show suggestion based on this"
[16:58:25] <Amir1>	 milimetric: exactly
[16:59:07] <milimetric>	 gotcha.  Um, for that you'll have to change the parameters that get passed to the riot.js router when you load the page: https://github.com/ewulczyn/translation-recs-app/blob/master/api/static/main.js#L12
[16:59:54] <milimetric>	 it's a bit trickier
[17:00:07] <milimetric>	 here' s the docs: http://riotjs.com/api/route/
[17:00:20] <milimetric>	 sorry I don't have time to help too much with that today, but let me know if you're hopelessly lost
[17:01:02] <milimetric>	 Amir1: notice that once you have the page loaded, you can change #Recommend to #About: http://recommend.wmflabs.org/#About
[17:01:44] <Amir1>	 thanks milimetric :)
[17:01:46] <Amir1>	 http://snag.gy/Q9esz.jpg
[17:01:50] <Amir1>	 what do you think of this?
[17:02:00] <milimetric>	 so that means it's going directly to #Recommend on first load, and that's from https://github.com/ewulczyn/translation-recs-app/blob/master/api/static/menu.tag#L26
[17:02:17] <milimetric>	 so in there either parse the # that's passed in or do something cleaner, your call :)
[17:02:52] <milimetric>	 that looks pretty good Amir1 (the button)
[17:03:01] <Amir1>	 :)
[17:03:13] <milimetric>	 i don't love how the menu is making it float away, is there a connected menu in semantic?
[17:03:22] <milimetric>	 there's a "pointing" class, maybe play with that
[17:09:19] <Amir1>	 milimetric: It's semantic ui: http://semantic-ui.com/modules/dropdown.html#/examples
[17:09:30] <Amir1>	 "Changing Transitions"
[17:09:59] <milimetric>	 oh no, i know, i just mean there's a variation called a "pointing" menu
[17:10:28] <milimetric>	 was wondering if that worked on dropdowns
[17:10:29] <Amir1>	 hmm I will search 
[17:10:45] <milimetric>	 no worries, it looks good
[17:29:11] <Amir1>	 milimetric: floating thing is fixed
[17:29:13] <Amir1>	 :)
[17:30:08] <milimetric>	 cool
[17:59:28] <Amir1>	 milimetric: new commit in the PR
[17:59:32] <Amir1>	 please check that
[18:12:51] <milimetric>	 whenever Amir1 comes back, I deployed his change
[18:49:10] <Amir1>	 thanks milimetric :)
[18:56:15] <Amir1>	 Also I'm not familiar with riotjs but if you add things like source/target/seed to them that would be great
[18:56:37] <Amir1>	 something like http://recommend.wmflabs.org/#REcommend/en/fa/Foo
[19:00:08] <milimetric>	 right, I don't have time to do that for a while, I think I'll just be on stand-by on this for a while.
[19:00:33] <milimetric>	 btw, I'm not familiar with riot.js either, this was the first project I did with it for the purpose of learning something similar to react with a smaller footprint
[19:00:46] <milimetric>	 it took a couple of days early on but it wasn't too bad
[19:04:21] <guillom>	 Nearly bumping into DarTar around a corner at the office is fine. Nearly bumping into Zombie DarTar around a corner at the office is quite a shock.
[19:06:10] <harej>	 Amir1: are recommendations going to be available in JSON? =]
[19:08:07] <J-Mo>	 guillom… pics?
[19:08:26] <guillom>	 J-Mo: I expect there will be some taken during the party later today.
[19:08:34] <J-Mo>	 excellent
[19:11:56] <guillom>	 If not, I shall recruit a few companions and wrestle Zombie DarTar until such pics may be obtained.
[19:20:51] <Amir1>	 harej: they are already, api
[19:21:31] <Amir1>	 20:27] <milimetric> http://recommend.wmflabs.org/api?s=en&t=ca&article=Orange
[19:22:46] <harej>	 I must look at this.
[19:50:59] <J-Mo>	 hey halfak, I'd like to get another Teahouse invite A/B study set up ASAP, so we can start collecting data again. Perhaps as soon as Monday. Any objections/considerations?
[19:51:27] <J-Mo>	 same criteria as last time, except a 50/50 split between invite and control buckets
[19:58:31] <J-Mo>	 pinging halfak|Mobile as well…
[20:05:52] <harej>	 J-Mo, will my impact assessment be unfavorable?
[20:06:24] <J-Mo>	 hi harej. I didn't understand your question.
[20:11:03] <J-Mo>	 harej?
[20:11:47] <harej>	 Will the impact assessment of WikiProject X as done by Design Research have an outcome indicating low impact?
[20:12:58] <halfak>	 J-Mo, sounds good to me
[20:13:51] <J-Mo>	 ah, I see. I'm not doing an impact assessment of WikiProject X, harej. Marti just asked me to meet with you about brainstorming impact assessment ideas for your (possible? approved?) renewal.
[20:14:30] <J-Mo>	 that's what the Phab task is about.
[20:14:34] <J-Mo>	 halfak. sweet!
[20:34:34] <harej>	 i feel like we've done that before. but we probably have better ideas now that we have actual things
[23:03:51] <halfak>	 German is done!
[23:03:53] <halfak>	 woot
[23:04:10] <halfak>	 Woops that was supposed to go to wikimedia-ai. 
[23:04:22] <halfak>	 I just finished updating the German language utilities (badwords and informals) 
[23:04:50] <halfak>	 I've added Dutch, Italian and German today.  :) 
[23:04:54] <guillom>	 9me is now curious about German cursewords.
[23:05:52] <guillom>	  /me, too
[23:05:58] <halfak>	 https://github.com/wiki-ai/revscoring/blob/more_languages/revscoring/languages/german.py
[23:06:07] <halfak>	 Behold my regexes!
[23:06:29] <halfak>	 The tests are probably easier to read: https://github.com/wiki-ai/revscoring/blob/more_languages/revscoring/languages/tests/test_german.py
[23:06:46] <guillom>	 I recognize a few :o
[23:58:57] <HaeB>	 halfak: an entertaining read ;)
[23:59:25] <HaeB>	 ...the most horribly offensive word there is "autorenportal" - don't ever say this to a german