[17:02:05] halfak, hey dude, y'around? [17:02:19] Just started a meeting :\ [17:02:36] okie! [17:02:42] * guillom waves and sprinkes rainbow kittens onto the channel. [17:02:50] sprinkles, too. [17:04:02] heya! [17:30:41] o/ Ironholds & guillom [17:30:46] just got done with the meeting. [17:31:37] OMG today is a holiday [17:31:52] Is the office closed? [17:31:58] Supposedly. [17:32:01] lol [17:32:22] I need some sort of notification for these things. Ha. [17:32:28] Many people are working, either from home, or from the office (members of the Editing team are visiting, so others who live in SF are coming to the office as well) [17:32:50] halfak: The WMF staff calendar (in Google Calendar) has reminders for those. [17:33:13] Yeah. I just noticed that. I usually ignore the staff calendar. Serves me right. :S [17:34:26] My office is closed today. [17:34:42] Tomorrow is my big interagency meeting. [17:39:12] o/ HareJ :) [17:39:26] What work are you doing on this non-work-day? [18:00:44] does DarTar use IRC? [18:01:35] yes, he's DarTar when around. [18:04:07] Krenair, DarTar hasn't been using IRC very often recently. [18:04:19] I recommend email if you need to get a hold of him. [18:11:12] hi matanya. We will be sending out a survey to enwiki Desktop (most probably tomorrow around 11am PST), I will send an email to English Wikipeida's village pump about it. Anywhere else I should mention this? The sampling rate is 5 out of 100K for this survey and there will be one question: "Why are you reading this article today?" Just want to make sure people are not surprised. :-) [18:34:32] halfak: 'closed'? [18:34:34] :) [18:34:51] -._o_.- [18:35:05] How's conf YuviPanda ? [18:36:32] halfak: pretty good day #2 yesterday [18:36:35] and am just waking up now [18:36:40] I found a solution to my blocking bug [18:36:46] now writing golang and feeling like a baby [18:38:11] Feeling like a baby? [18:39:05] Fresh and clean? Young and fit? Pooped your pants? Forgot how to talk? So broad. [18:39:08] ;) [18:39:46] haha [18:39:54] forgot how to write code without syntax errors [18:40:37] Ahh. Forgot how to talk. ;) [18:41:34] :D [18:52:20] how is yuvi formed [18:52:43] *yuvvi [18:54:17] hi EGalvez_. Do you work today? :D [19:08:42] thanks leila [19:08:55] i'd suggest a post to wikimedia-l [19:09:31] I see. we normally don't do it there, matanya, but I get half of my info from that list and won't be surprised if it's the case for others, too. [19:09:57] better safe than sorry :) [19:10:17] yeah. I agree with you matanya. [19:10:19] you can ask on the en VP if they think anywhere else should be posted too [19:10:34] other than wikimedia-l, matanya, you mean? [19:10:43] yes [19:10:47] VP of EN [19:10:58] got it. thanks. [19:37:59] halfak: can it be that I cannot write in VP EN? :D [19:38:12] I don't see an edit option when I go there, halfak. ;-) [19:38:35] No. SOmething must be wrong. [19:38:40] Link me to where you are? [19:38:53] mmm. that's what I thought.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28technical%29#Quickserveys [19:39:29] I see Read, View Source, and View history. [19:39:42] Weird. Yeah. I don't see an edit link when anon. [19:39:43] are you logged in? [19:39:46] * halfak digs deeper [19:39:51] I'm logged in halfak [19:39:55] yeah, YuviPanda [19:40:23] it requires autoconfirmed [19:40:25] maybe you don't have it? [19:40:32] it probably requires some minimum edits in enwiki with my staff account before I can write there? :D [19:40:44] I guess so YuviPanda. I am nobody. [19:41:02] someone can probably give you autoconfirm [19:41:05] not sure who can [19:41:14] What's your user name? [19:41:21] LZia_(WMF), halfak [19:42:16] Looks like I can't give you rights. [19:42:20] Hmm... [19:42:27] Go make 10 edits to your user page :) [19:42:51] * YuviPanda looks at quiddity :D [19:43:00] * YuviPanda also looks at leila [19:43:02] err [19:43:04] which wiki? [19:43:04] hahaha! :D [19:43:04] legoktm: [19:43:04] If you are looking to make some quick edits, I'd love your comments here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Labels/Edit_types [19:43:19] quiddity: en [19:43:19] I might as well do something useful, halfak. :D [19:43:22] * quiddity reads scrollback... [19:43:50] oh, I'm not admin on en, sorry [19:44:07] ok, let's look at legoktm then [19:44:15] I can do so many volunteer stuff with those 10 edits, but then it's the staff account. ;-) [19:44:30] yeah I think it should just be granted [19:44:34] legoktm, pls make LZia_(WMF) autoconfirmed. [19:44:43] on what wiki? [19:44:45] en [19:45:18] er, manually confirmed* (y'know ;) [19:45:23] (change visibility) 19:45, 11 November 2015 Legoktm (talk | contribs | block) changed group membership for LZia (WMF) from (none) to confirmed user (per request) [19:45:40] ah! nice. thanks legoktm and others. :-) [19:45:44] yw [19:45:58] Noo! Comments :( [19:46:04] :-( [19:46:13] :D no worries [19:46:18] ;-) [21:08:34] halfak: http://www.eclipse.org/che/ is super fascinating [21:08:50] around 'I want to reduce barriers to entry for people wanting to do computationally things' [21:32:35] YuviPanda, TIL PHP is a framework. [21:32:52] Looks like sublime/atom clone [21:33:14] no [21:33:22] it's not meant to be used on as a desktop thing [21:33:29] it's 'hosted' [21:33:37] so what this can do is [21:33:41] you go to a website [21:33:44] login with oauth [21:33:49] say 'create new tool, flask' [21:33:52] write code [21:33:54] click deploy [21:33:58] and have it be at tools.wmflabs.org/something [21:40:17] ohh... yeah. I like this. I was expecting you to use something like jupyter [21:41:48] halfak: yes, this is in my view something like jupyter but a bit less focused on science-ish / research-ish things [21:41:56] like you can't deploy a tool from jupyterhub [21:41:56] Yeah. [21:45:11] YuviPanda, I want to fix wikilabels backup strategy. What would you recommend I do? [21:45:36] outside of us ops fixing it properly? [21:45:42] assuming you just want to backup the db? [21:45:44] Yeah. [21:45:46] how big is the dumps? [21:45:56] Hundreds of MB [21:46:12] hmm [21:46:30] I hate this a bit but the current solution is to enable an NFS mount and scp it to there :( [21:46:31] err [21:46:34] cp it to there [21:46:41] but that means that you'll get hit by an NFS outage [21:46:41] BOOO! [21:47:03] halfak: the other thing to do is to strongly express dissapointment on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104206 [21:47:10] and maybe I can goad alex into doing that [21:47:43] OK. Will do. [21:47:48] * halfak hacks a solution first [21:47:54] cron & SCP [21:47:59] ls [21:48:01] LS! [21:49:26] halfak: ls and cp [21:49:41] halfak: yeah and we'll need to enable NFS for you [21:49:46] halfak: file a ticket for that too? [21:49:53] Na. I'll just SCP it to my home server. [21:50:00] Forget this NFS nonsense. [21:50:04] I don't want the downtime. [21:50:28] ok [21:50:31] sorry about that [21:50:36] halfak: do write a comment on that ticket tho [21:50:38] regretfully, I lost my old strategy for doing it when we switched servers :( [21:50:42] Will do [21:51:01] * halfak is amazed that he didn't check this into a cms [21:56:47] BAH! I need a password. My bash script isn't going to cut it. :\ [21:56:52] Gotta read the config file. [23:18:24] halfak, `