[00:59:04] hey halfak. question about tomorrow's RG: will you or Amir present the vandalism detection work? in what depth? [01:03:21] hey guillom. I contributed a bit to the two links for Events and Matrix. [01:03:54] Thanks leila! [01:03:57] I'm a bit worried about the Events one, that we won't update it over time, but I hope I'm proven wrong. :D [01:09:39] leila: yeah, it's a risk, but the only thing we know for sure is that if we didn't have one at all we wouldn't update it either :) [01:10:22] :D [01:10:28] fair enough, guillom. :D [01:10:46] I'm going to run a bit outside before it gets dark, hopefully the rain wait for another 30 min. :D [01:10:55] Enjoy: [01:10:56] ! [01:10:58] see y'all later. ciao ciao. [01:11:01] thanks, guillom. [02:33:24] o/ halfak [15:46:43] o/ halfak [15:47:03] * guillom waves. [15:50:50] o/ sabya [15:50:58] On a call. Should be done in ~15 [15:51:16] ok. [16:21:11] is there an API spec doc for ORES? [16:22:08] halfak:^ [16:22:48] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Objective_Revision_Evaluation_Service [16:22:53] sabya, ^ what we have now [16:23:38] See "machine readable paths" [16:24:24] throws a list of wikis. [16:43:00] sabya, if you click "expand" on the right side of the "machine readable paths" list, then you'll see the sub-paths [16:43:33] I'm hoping that we can switch to a swagger-based spec soon: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119271 [16:44:08] yes I saw. swagger is a good tool. [16:45:10] btw, was going through the code to see what precache=true does. [16:55:21] * guillom read halfa.k's earlier comment as "machine-readable pants". [16:55:47] sabya, ahh yes. This will really only just change the way the request is logged in our metrics collector [16:56:09] It is used by the precached utility to signal that this is a "precache" request -- not one from a human or tool. [16:58:08] I guess, precache utility does nothing but just calls the ores api for a revid? And the API returns the response also caches the result in redis. Right? [16:58:45] That's right [17:00:11] ok [17:18:17] hey schana. in T124497, is requestToken updated each time the user changes source and target languages? If so, I agree with your comment. [17:18:18] T124497: Make Language Pair Choices more user friendly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124497 [17:18:47] leila: it's changed each time a request is made from the UI to the API [17:19:11] so, changing the languages wouldn't update it until an actual request is sent [17:19:11] ow okay, cool, schana. that makes sense. I comment in there. [17:20:45] schana, one more question. when you say "but I think we still may want to log these in order ..." what does "these" refer to? unintentional actions? [17:21:00] correct [17:21:13] cool. cool. really got it this time. ;p [17:21:17] :) [17:31:46] halfak: are you attending RG meeting today? [17:32:11] Yup. last meeting going over [17:32:14] joining now [20:27:33] lzia: I see that the last deadline for submitting to the WWW or ICWSM wikiworkshops is tomorrow. Is it possible to attend without submitting a paper? [20:41:47] FYI: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Usage_of_correct_diacritics_in_readers_of_Romanian_Wikipedia [20:43:34] Anyone know someone in reading who would be interested in helping out with this ^? [20:43:53] * guillom was looking at the "Consortium for the Science of Sociotechnical Systems Summer Institute" but sadly it's right back-to-back with Wikimania. [20:52:38] * yuvipanda is very excited to find a 'programming psychology' acadmic field [20:52:44] a *whole field* for me to catch up on! [20:52:47] 'tis great [20:57:53] guillom: absolutely. [20:58:49] lzia: Ok :) Great. Thanks! I'm considering attending one of them, not sure yet which conference would be the most relevant for me. But in any case if I attend one, I'll want to attend the wikiworkshop :) [21:03:27] that'd be great, guillom. [21:04:57] * halfak looks around for nettrom [21:16:27] guillom: let me know if I can be of help for choosing one vs the other. [21:16:58] Thanks lzia. I may take you up on that offer later. [22:23:14] halfak: sorry for delay #wikimedia-mobile is a good place to catch reading people [22:23:55] dr0ptp4kt, thanks. Will keep that in mind :) [22:24:12] So, do you think that you or others will be interested in the study? [22:24:30] I know that the Wikipedian is looking for some help testing the javascript across browser. [22:25:04] James_F pointed out that they might want to talk to legal about logging reader experience via JS on the site. [22:26:40] halfak: i'd say email mobile-l [22:27:16] dr0ptp4kt, not really my project. I could suggest that to the Wikipedian running it if you like. [22:27:48] halfak: yeah, that would be cool. fits nicely with our emerging markets / global south emphasis on the web [22:30:45] dr0ptp4kt, do you have an account on Meta? [22:32:10] halfak: yep, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:ABaso_(WMF) [22:32:26] Great. Will ping [22:50:40] Hey folks! Backlog grooming time! [22:50:49] Look at the phab board before the meeting!