[14:40:49] o/\ [14:41:05] ^ I guess I'm high-5-ing some unknown other [14:44:02] \o [14:47:55] o/ guillom & schana [14:48:01] good morning halfak [14:48:18] hello hello [14:48:48] * guillom made good progress yesterday; all the dominoes are falling into the right place after months of work. [15:00:00] * halfak imagines guillom's rise to power [15:00:04] :) [15:01:05] Hah. My dominoes are very lowly. No power or politics for me; I suck at those. [15:01:59] guillom is the power behind the scenes [15:32:25] Way, way behind. [16:04:10] morning folks [16:04:37] about to get started in #wikipedia-it in case you want to lurk there halfak [16:04:44] nice crowd ready to code :) [18:31:34] o/ schana [18:31:42] hi halfak [18:32:00] Ready to try getting on VOIP again? [18:32:04] sure [18:49:44] schana, https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Objective_Revision_Evaluation_Service#Verifying_ORES_integrity [22:10:17] J-Mo: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/paws-public-url-structure paws public URL proposal btw [22:13:09] yuvipanda: how about paws-public.wmflabs.org/public/path? [22:13:32] J-Mo: so $prefix is 'public'? [22:13:40] yah [22:13:50] * yuvipanda nods [22:13:52] that sounds good to me [22:13:56] along with public.paws.wmflabs.org [22:13:57] and /private/ for user notebooks? [22:14:03] unfortunately that's not something we can control [22:14:11] also they have to be in different domains due to security reasons [22:14:15] ah [22:14:25] so for private notebooks, it will be /paws/ ? [22:14:37] ah, the /paws we can change [22:14:40] eventually, not yet. [22:14:42] so yeah, I can do [22:14:48] paws.wmflabs.org/private/ [22:14:57] and public.paws.wmflabs.org/public/ [22:15:10] the will be different, but I can make them redirect [22:15:14] also, public.paws.wmflabs.org looks weirder to me than paws-public.wmflabs.org [22:15:15] J-Mo: I can also add a button to the notebook interface [22:15:31] but that's just, like, my opinion man [22:15:32] J-Mo: eventually long term we want them to be $user.paws.wmflabs.org (again, security reasons) [22:15:50] so I'd rather have them be $.paws.wmflabs.org than paws-$.wmflabs.org [22:15:51] ah, so public.paws will parallel jtmorgan.paws [22:15:55] * yuvipanda nods [22:15:58] got it. [22:16:00] that makes sense then. [22:16:23] do we need a prefix? [22:16:32] yeah [22:16:36] it's usually a good idea to have a prefix [22:16:43] that's why wiki has one [22:16:44] for example [22:16:58] cool. then it seems cleanest to me to have the prefix match the sub-sub-domain [22:16:58] to avoid having to hardcode 'no robots.txt us not a valid username!' [22:17:33] so public.paws.wmflabs.org/public and (eventually) USERNAME.paws.wmflabs.org/USERNAME [22:17:33] or '.well-known/blah' is not a valid path! (this allows people to take control of your site in various 3rd party setups, like DNS / SSL providers) [22:17:39] as a user [22:17:44] who is creating notebooks [22:17:49] you'll probably always go to paws.wmflabs.org [22:17:50] IC [22:17:51] and login [22:17:54] and it'll redirect you appropriately [22:18:08] yeah. unless someone's sharing a public notebook with you. [22:18:17] if you go to $USERNAME.paws.wmflabs.org it'll redirect you to paws.wmflabs.org (if you haven't logged in) and let you [22:18:19] yeah [22:18:29] J-Mo: this is doing two things: execution (always private) and publishing (always public) [22:18:33] and hence is somewhat confusing [22:19:06] yeah, I can see that. So I agree that the language we use is important. Being consistent about where 'public' vs. 'username' is used should help. [22:19:13] * yuvipanda nods [22:19:15] yeah [22:19:29] what's the issue with renamed users? [22:19:40] so if you pass around links to [22:19:46] /User:JMorgan/whatever.ipynb [22:19:49] and then later get renamed [22:19:52] to JayMorgan [22:19:56] then all the old links will break [22:20:12] mmm. pretty uncommon though, right? [22:20:21] I got renamed from Yuvipanda to YuviPanda :D [22:20:33] and people have filed bugs for Quarry, which doesn't handle it at all [22:20:44] could be handled on a case-by-case basis? Admin transfers the private notebooks to new user account? [22:20:50] mmm. [22:20:54] any ideas? [22:21:01] possibly.